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Title: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
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Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: LMNO on June 04, 2014, 03:49:03 PM
Yoinkie-doinkie.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Junkenstein on June 04, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
It's pretty much been like that forever. It's just much, much more noticeable now because they're laughing in your face while doing it.

Not the quiet snicker that they used to do either. It's the full on wheezing horse spraying spittle all over your face laugh.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 04, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
It's pretty much been like that forever. It's just much, much more noticeable now because they're laughing in your face while doing it.

Not the quiet snicker that they used to do either. It's the full on wheezing horse spraying spittle all over your face laugh.

Dunno.  I see a lot of people "rebelling", these days. 
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Junkenstein on June 04, 2014, 05:19:14 PM
I suggest they are also more noticeable for the exact opposite reason.

Reckon the ratio has changed much over the years? I'd guess so, but probably be depressed about how much.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2014, 05:26:11 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 04, 2014, 05:19:14 PM
I suggest they are also more noticeable for the exact opposite reason.

Reckon the ratio has changed much over the years? I'd guess so, but probably be depressed about how much.

In the generation below mine?  Or maybe say "in people born after 1990"?  I'd say the difference is enormous.

Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 04, 2014, 05:36:18 PM
I'm getting that, quite strongly too. I had to consciously start looking for it, tho. Brain was stuck in a - back in my day - loop.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 05, 2014, 05:43:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
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Yep. That's pretty much what I've noticed. I feel like we might be the first generation ever to say, "Kids these days! So much better than we were at that age".
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 05, 2014, 05:45:11 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 04, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
It's pretty much been like that forever. It's just much, much more noticeable now because they're laughing in your face while doing it.

Not the quiet snicker that they used to do either. It's the full on wheezing horse spraying spittle all over your face laugh.

Wait, aren't you our age? When I was a kid the people I knew who were my age were self-absorbed, apathetic, socially oblivious assholes who didn't give a fuck about other people.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 05, 2014, 05:48:57 AM
I started noticing it before my kids got to middle-school - kids, even young ones, driving social change, looking out for other people, fighting injustice. Teenagers these days are more concerned with social issues, more involved in community activism. My ten-year-old and her friends raised almost $200 for the animal shelter. Kids wanting less STUFF, and more connection with their community. Things were not like this in the 80's, for sure.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

From what I've seen / can recall there was always a minority of decent kids doing shit for charity and such, so if that's on the rise in general then I'm not upset to hear it. I'm just concious that it's easier to communicate about this kind of stuff now so fundraisers for X get much more attention and reach many more people than they would have in previous decades. Modern tech has certainly made it a lot easier to either help or be a dick to people, that's for sure.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 05, 2014, 10:38:34 AM
You could argue about the causes of this trend til the cows come home and there'd prolly be a bit of truth in all sides but what does the cause matter when the trend looks this positive.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

They're different, this time around.  At least the majority are.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:06:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
Modern tech has certainly made it a lot easier to either help or be a dick to people, that's for sure.

But whore are the trolls?  You and I.   :lulz:
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: LMNO on June 05, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

They're different, this time around.  At least the majority are.

Exhibit A: An Awesome Senior Prank.
http://jezebel.com/seniors-at-santa-barbara-high-school-pulled-the-best-se-1586204429

Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 05, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

They're different, this time around.  At least the majority are.

Exhibit A: An Awesome Senior Prank.
http://jezebel.com/seniors-at-santa-barbara-high-school-pulled-the-best-se-1586204429

That is AWESOME!
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on June 05, 2014, 03:02:32 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 05, 2014, 05:48:57 AM
I started noticing it before my kids got to middle-school - kids, even young ones, driving social change, looking out for other people, fighting injustice. Teenagers these days are more concerned with social issues, more involved in community activism. My ten-year-old and her friends raised almost $200 for the animal shelter. Kids wanting less STUFF, and more connection with their community. Things were not like this in the 80's, for sure.

My son's senior project involved dissecting cold war propaganda.

My entire schooling involved being trained to swallow it without question.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on June 05, 2014, 03:02:32 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 05, 2014, 05:48:57 AM
I started noticing it before my kids got to middle-school - kids, even young ones, driving social change, looking out for other people, fighting injustice. Teenagers these days are more concerned with social issues, more involved in community activism. My ten-year-old and her friends raised almost $200 for the animal shelter. Kids wanting less STUFF, and more connection with their community. Things were not like this in the 80's, for sure.

My son's senior project involved dissecting cold war propaganda.

My entire schooling involved being trained to swallow it without question.

Yep.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
It occurs to me that Dr Pangloss is vindicated.  This may very well be the best of all possible worlds.  We aren't an extinct species cluttering up a radioactive ruin, World War II was won by the least bad side, etc.

Now there's a horrible thought for you:

ALL OF THIS IS NORMAL.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 05, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

They're different, this time around.  At least the majority are.

Exhibit A: An Awesome Senior Prank.
http://jezebel.com/seniors-at-santa-barbara-high-school-pulled-the-best-se-1586204429

That is AWESOME!

I need costs on this ASAP.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: LMNO on June 05, 2014, 05:00:54 PM
https://www.gigmasters.com/Services/Mariachi-Band
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Reginald Ret on June 05, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 05, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

They're different, this time around.  At least the majority are.

Exhibit A: An Awesome Senior Prank.
http://jezebel.com/seniors-at-santa-barbara-high-school-pulled-the-best-se-1586204429
Oh wow!
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
Doesn't cover the UK, but I've found a couple going at a touch over a grand.

Wheels are turning.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 05, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

From what I've seen / can recall there was always a minority of decent kids doing shit for charity and such, so if that's on the rise in general then I'm not upset to hear it. I'm just concious that it's easier to communicate about this kind of stuff now so fundraisers for X get much more attention and reach many more people than they would have in previous decades. Modern tech has certainly made it a lot easier to either help or be a dick to people, that's for sure.

I think part of it is that compassion and social justice work are now socially reinforced in that age group; being a "mean girl" is no longer cool, helping people and doing good is cool, and because of online social networking feedback is immediate, creating a positive feedback loop that encourages kids to do more good. It's a culture change, IMO.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 05, 2014, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 05, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
My perspective is probably somewhat off here, as it usually is with matters of children. I don't have any or really interact with anyone below 25 or so on a regular basis.

They're different, this time around.  At least the majority are.

Exhibit A: An Awesome Senior Prank.
http://jezebel.com/seniors-at-santa-barbara-high-school-pulled-the-best-se-1586204429

:lulz: this is amazing. I love kids these days!

Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 05, 2014, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
It occurs to me that Dr Pangloss is vindicated.  This may very well be the best of all possible worlds.  We aren't an extinct species cluttering up a radioactive ruin, World War II was won by the least bad side, etc.

Now there's a horrible thought for you:

ALL OF THIS IS NORMAL.

Now, if we can only manage not to go extinct just as we're figuring shit out!
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 08:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
It occurs to me that Dr Pangloss is vindicated.  This may very well be the best of all possible worlds.  We aren't an extinct species cluttering up a radioactive ruin, World War II was won by the least bad side, etc.

Now there's a horrible thought for you:

ALL OF THIS IS NORMAL.

I'm just starting to understand what this could mean. I'm not sure whether to be terribly depressed, laugh, or both. Probably both.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 05, 2014, 08:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 05, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
It occurs to me that Dr Pangloss is vindicated.  This may very well be the best of all possible worlds.  We aren't an extinct species cluttering up a radioactive ruin, World War II was won by the least bad side, etc.

Now there's a horrible thought for you:

ALL OF THIS IS NORMAL.

I'm just starting to understand what this could mean. I'm not sure whether to be terribly depressed, laugh, or both. Probably both.

It means we won.

It also means that just because you're in a golden age doesn't mean there aren't big problems.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
As someone under 25 I have to tell all you geezers that you are dangerously deluded. My generation isnt better, my generation is just better at PR. I know these people in my fucking blood, theyre absolute monsters. Theyre the culmination of a hundred years of the technology and methods of social engineering being refined. Theyre consumers, and nothing but. They cant see it though, and neither can you, for the same reason. They are perfect. The endpoint. You cant make a population more docile and controllable without getting implanting brainchips.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on June 13, 2014, 01:00:14 AM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
As someone under 25 I have to tell all you geezers that you are dangerously deluded. My generation isnt better, my generation is just better at PR. I know these people in my fucking blood, theyre absolute monsters. Theyre the culmination of a hundred years of the technology and methods of social engineering being refined. Theyre consumers, and nothing but. They cant see it though, and neither can you, for the same reason. They are perfect. The endpoint. You cant make a population more docile and controllable without getting implanting brainchips.

:cn:
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on June 13, 2014, 01:01:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
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I love that.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 01:04:23 AM
Quote from: Net (+1 Hidden) and 5 guests on June 13, 2014, 01:00:14 AM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
As someone under 25 I have to tell all you geezers that you are dangerously deluded. My generation isnt better, my generation is just better at PR. I know these people in my fucking blood, theyre absolute monsters. Theyre the culmination of a hundred years of the technology and methods of social engineering being refined. Theyre consumers, and nothing but. They cant see it though, and neither can you, for the same reason. They are perfect. The endpoint. You cant make a population more docile and controllable without getting implanting brainchips.

:cn:

Im draining my hate glands into something about this right now. Should be done soon.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2014, 01:10:09 AM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
As someone under 25 I have to tell all you geezers that you are dangerously deluded. My generation isnt better, my generation is just better at PR. I know these people in my fucking blood, theyre absolute monsters. Theyre the culmination of a hundred years of the technology and methods of social engineering being refined. Theyre consumers, and nothing but. They cant see it though, and neither can you, for the same reason. They are perfect. The endpoint. You cant make a population more docile and controllable without getting implanting brainchips.

I have seen both in person.  You have not.

You are a nutcase.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on June 13, 2014, 01:14:08 AM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 01:04:23 AM
Quote from: Net (+1 Hidden) and 5 guests on June 13, 2014, 01:00:14 AM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
As someone under 25 I have to tell all you geezers that you are dangerously deluded. My generation isnt better, my generation is just better at PR. I know these people in my fucking blood, theyre absolute monsters. Theyre the culmination of a hundred years of the technology and methods of social engineering being refined. Theyre consumers, and nothing but. They cant see it though, and neither can you, for the same reason. They are perfect. The endpoint. You cant make a population more docile and controllable without getting implanting brainchips.

:cn:

Im draining my hate glands into something about this right now. Should be done soon.

I'm looking forward to reading it.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 01:28:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2014, 01:10:09 AM

You are a nutcase.

Dear God I wish I was, but Im not that lucky.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 13, 2014, 02:14:02 AM
Hey mate, I'm under 25 too (and currently a little drunk) and I can tell you: we may be one big neurotic clusterfuck of a generation, but by god we are marginally less buttfucked in the brain by Ayn Rand and Reaganomics, and we've got Netflix.

If that's not progress, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: UB on June 14, 2014, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 04, 2014, 03:46:21 PM
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Im so stealing this....   :-*   Appreciative, TGRR
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: UB on June 14, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 01:28:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2014, 01:10:09 AM

You are a nutcase.

Dear God I wish I was, but Im not that lucky.

Haha... but but but You are of discord! A renowned Discordian!  :)  That *must* mean something...
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 15, 2014, 04:04:49 AM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
As someone under 25 I have to tell all you geezers that you are dangerously deluded. My generation isnt better, my generation is just better at PR. I know these people in my fucking blood, theyre absolute monsters. Theyre the culmination of a hundred years of the technology and methods of social engineering being refined. Theyre consumers, and nothing but. They cant see it though, and neither can you, for the same reason. They are perfect. The endpoint. You cant make a population more docile and controllable without getting implanting brainchips.

Bullshit, you're just bitter about your lack of acceptance with your peers and projecting your most negative fantasy-justifications for why you're secretly superior and that's why they don't like you.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Pæs on June 17, 2014, 01:35:52 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 15, 2014, 04:04:49 AM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 13, 2014, 12:46:32 AM
As someone under 25 I have to tell all you geezers that you are dangerously deluded. My generation isnt better, my generation is just better at PR. I know these people in my fucking blood, theyre absolute monsters. Theyre the culmination of a hundred years of the technology and methods of social engineering being refined. Theyre consumers, and nothing but. They cant see it though, and neither can you, for the same reason. They are perfect. The endpoint. You cant make a population more docile and controllable without getting implanting brainchips.

Bullshit, you're just bitter about your lack of acceptance with your peers and projecting your most negative fantasy-justifications for why you're secretly superior and that's why they don't like you.
As someone under 25, at the very least some of this.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2014, 05:36:22 AM
I just like to take stabs in the dark to see if I can irritate people.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 17, 2014, 05:42:04 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 17, 2014, 05:36:22 AM
I just like to take stabs in the dark to see if I can irritate people.

Like Zorro wearing a blindfold. And a corset. And the sword is made of serrated razor blades dripping with TruthTM.

. . .
. . .

I'll be in my bunk.
Title: Re: All You Need to Know About the 21st Century
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2014, 07:02:04 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 17, 2014, 05:42:04 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 17, 2014, 05:36:22 AM
I just like to take stabs in the dark to see if I can irritate people.

Like Zorro wearing a blindfold. And a corset. And the sword is made of serrated razor blades dripping with TruthTM.

. . .
. . .

I'll be in my bunk.

:lulz: