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#7786
Quote from: Idem on June 07, 2007, 12:44:19 AM

What the fuck did you just say?  Talk straight and I'll get back to you later.

I'm not John McCain.
#7787
Quote from: LMNO on June 07, 2007, 03:30:52 PM
Hey, are you the Ratatosk that hangs out with Ignatious?

A good Discordian never admits to hanging out with Ignatious. However, my past experiences as Ratatosk can be found to occasionally cross with that of His Dry Roasted Holiness.
#7788
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2007, 01:48:13 PM
What do you mean INRI?  Its not something I've heard of before.

Also, the Pastafarians etc make perfect dupes.  We do all the thinking, they do all the legwork.  Its pretty easy.

INRI may reference the 2000 year old dead Jew... but I meant it in the alchemical sense, Igne Natura Renovatur Integra , By Fire All Nature Is Perfectly Renewed. Thus through the fires of Chaos, all life is perfectly renewed through the survival of the best, the most fit. So too with iron, gold and sliver, through fire their ores are purified. Finally, with Pastafarians, MySpace Discordians and the rest... there appears to me good reason to use them as dupes, foot soldiers, canon fodder, because in our war... the ones that fail, just go back to writing lame crap on MySpace. Those that are purified by the experiences then progresses from the Land of Thud. For it is not in the reading of the PD that enlightenment is found. The PD is simply the product of an experience of enlightenment. Rather, it is in the experience that enlightenment is found, it is experience that is the Alchemical fire that purifies.
#7789
Quote from: Idem on June 06, 2007, 09:31:41 PM

What?  The pastafarians are worse than the Myspace Discordians, and most of them, literally, are 12 years old.

Our Lady of Discord stands and from one hand she releases every species, born through surviving the chaotic whim of nature; from the other she draws in every species as it falls to chaos and becomes extinct.

Evolution means survival of the fittest Children of Chaos.

The Pastafarians and the MySpace Discordians... INRI.

If we can be warmed by that fire, shall we deny the fuel?


Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord
Chatterer of the Words of Eris
Muncher of The ChaoAcorn
POEE of The Great Googlie Mooglie Cabal
#7790
Or Kill Me / Living isn't hard
July 20, 2004, 04:54:37 PM
1. Any individual can catch and clean a game bird with near to no experience. I and the lovely Sjaantze, Harbringer of Distraction killed two ducks and two guinea fowl just last week. We tied their legs together, hung them upside down, cut off their heads with a pair of Kitchen Shears, let them drain for 20 minutes, dipped them in a bucket of hot water and plucked all the feathers off. After that we proceeded with the gutting, which is surprisingly simple.

Once done, the bird can be rubbed with any herbs or spices you may have and cooked over a fire on a stick if nothing else is available.

A fish is even more simple to gut and cook.
A rabbit, squirrel or other small furry animal is about the same, but you skin it instead of pluck it.
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We have available to us, right now, plenty of library books and Internet sites, that an inability to survive without modern civilization betrays only a lack of reading.

In fact, I recommend that every Discordian read up on survival. When this society shifts from Beuracracy to Aftermath, we just might need those skills.
#7791
Literate Chaotic / Carlos Castaneda
July 20, 2004, 04:25:23 PM
Auyahuasca also known as Yage' is a drink made from a number of plants in the South American jungle. Usually it requires at least two different plants, one containing dimethyltryptimine (DMT) and the other containing an MAOI.

The Yage vine, Mimosa Hostillis Root Bark, various grasses all contain DMT, quite possibly the strongest hallucinatory drug known to man (with the exception of Salvia Divinorium, which is really difficult to use properly). However, the body quickly builds up a tolerance to DMT. so drinking a tea with DMT in it is useless. That is, unless you have another plant in the tea that contains an MAOI (MAO Inhibitor). When these to drugs are combined and consumed, you enter a world of different realities.

Most people who drink this particular concoction, find themselves watching a movie between them and reality. They see reality all areound them, but superimposed over that is another reality.

Today, many people take DMT in another fashion. They will extract it by freebase chemisty from the plant matter. This creates a yellowish crystal which can be smoked. After about three hits, the voyager no longer sees reality at all and usually find themselves folowing the same sort of trip that others have. Many times they see gnomes/faries/elves. In fact crytsalized DMT is sometimes called Elfspice.

The song written by Sid Barrett about the Little Gnome, is often thought to have been inspired by a DMT trip after all, as he sings... "The Gnomes Have Found A New Way To Say Hooray". This trip usually lasts 20 minutes or less and as Leary put it,

"It lasted for a million years and for a split-second. But it's over and now it's your turn."

Good stuff, of course highly illegal and I would never do anything illegal.

Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord
#7792
Literate Chaotic / Carlos Castaneda
July 20, 2004, 02:59:08 PM
Another possibility:

Crowley used copious amounts of Marijuana, 'shrooms and Auyahuasca.

Thornley, Hill, Leary, RAW, Burroughs, and Hikem Bey all used copious amounts of Marijuana, 'shrooms and LSD.

Is it possible that Leary's theory of the 8 systems of consciousness is right? He thought that some types of drugs acted as neurotransmitters which engaged these higher levels.

If all these guys tripped, some of them probably together, could they have tapped into the next level of consciousness? Perhaps the one that humanity will eventually evolve into....

Or maybe if Crowley had done LSD, he'd have become an acid-head and drpooed out of the OTO.
#7793
Literate Chaotic / Aleister Crowley
July 19, 2004, 10:15:20 PM
Understanding Crowley is like understanding Eris. Smoke a lot of pot, drink some Auyahuasca, maybe a trip or two with Lucy and BAM! it will all make sense.

Crowley seemed to have figured out the basics of Magic, almost all of the Western Occult groups up to that point had figured out a metaphor that followed the ideas of magical work, with some success. Crowley, by trying every form of magic and esoteric idea he could get his hands own, eventually broke down most of the metaphoric walls surrounding what
people call magic.

Off of his work, people like Peter Carrol advanced (in Liber Null and Psychonaut) the ideas of Chaos Magic. In a nutshell:

Magic = Will + Altered State of Consciousness + Imagination

These are the things that Crowley truly focused on, his drug usage was specifically for consciousness alteration (and having fun), his sex magic was for consciousness alteration (and having fun), his meditations/yoga/High Ritual all placed him in an altered state of consciousness, in which, with the potencey of Will and the power of Imagination, created changes in reality, which of course, one might consider to be magic.

Read 23 Skidoo and think about what Crowley is telling Initiates.
#7794
Literate Chaotic / Carlos Castaneda
July 19, 2004, 10:04:06 PM
Now, the question is:

Did Thornley, Greg Hill, RA Wilson, William S. B., Tim Leary, J.R. Dobbs, Ivan Stang, Hikem Bey (an important one most people seem to forget) and those involved in both, The Society for the Investigation of Claims of The Normal, as well as members of the Gurrilea Ontology group, work together to build this entire web of information, creating self-referential material?

I put forth the hypothesis that all of these individuals acted as a sort of feedback loop, which Eris used to increase the level of chaotic thinking and destructive evolution of philosophy. Perhaps, we could even find the first bits that she used to seed the loop... I vote Crowley and Lovecraft.

If this is true, then perhaps the rise of Discordianism/Erisianism is aligned with the rise of Ra-Hoor-Kuit who as Horus Crowley claimed, rules the Age in which we live.

Or not.
#7795
Principia Discussion / The True Story
October 27, 2003, 03:34:19 PM
Please read this no matter what you believe
Do you think YOU will pass it on?

muuuuu........

One day Satan, Jesus and Eris were having a conversation. Satan had just come from the Garden of Eden, and he was gloating andf boasting. "Yes, sir, I just caught the world full of people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew they couldn't resist. Got 'em all!"

"What are you going to do with them?" Jesus asked.

"Why would you want that bunch of losers anyway?", Eris chimed in sweetly. "They are nothing but a bunch of mindless sheep, constantly whining and praying for 'God' to fix their problems. They're pathetic."

Satan replied, "Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm gonna teach them how to marry and divorce each other, how to hate and abuse each other, how to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how to invent guns and bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun!"

"And what will you do when you get done with them?" Jesus asked.

"Can I watch?" Eris asked.

"Oh, I'll kill 'em," Satan glared proudly.

"Wait a minute," Eris said, "You don't want to kill 'em. Then they won't be amusing anymore. I've got a much better idea."

Satan looked interested, but mostly because he had a secret crush on Eris.


"How much do you want for them?" Jesus asked.

"What are you on about?" Eris asked somewhat perturbed. "Will you stop with all of this Son of God crap?"

Jesus was somewhat taken aback, "Er, well I mean aren't I supposed to do something to save all these people?"

"Save them from what? Themselves? Their natural tendancy toward chaos? Their constant inability to control even their basest emotion? I mean what do you expect to save?" Eris looked at Jesus pointedly and sighed.

"But, thats what my Father wants. I am his only-begotten son, and I should give my life to save the human race from Satan here.... right?" Jesus said, questions beginning to show in his eyes.

"Jesus Christ! Whaat are you thinking? Your Father is some Almighty God, if he really wanted to save people, don't you think he could just kill Satan here?" She looked breifly at Satan, who was suddenly uncomfortable,"No offense, smoky" Eris concluded.

"Err, well there's the whole thing about proving yourself or something. At any rate, HE wishes it to be this way." Jesus was obviously concerned with the direction the conversation was taking.

"How about this," Eris said smiling, "We will con a bunch of gullible humans into writing down that you two did everything you're suppsoed to do. People are sheep, they;ll believe that it happened and we can go do something else. Besides, if people think that God's Son came down to earth, you realize how much chaos that will cause? Everyone will try to follow you their own way, and powerful people will force weaker people to follow you their way. Then groups of powerful people will fight about your beliefs... it'll be great!!!"

Jesus looked disturbed "But, won't there be suffering?"

"Of course," Eris smiled sweetly "But, they're humans there will be suffering no matter what you do. If you go down there and tell people to love each other, they will, and they will give everyone else the choice of loving each other according to their rules, or they will kill them. It doesn't matter what you say."

Satan looked depressed "Damn it all to hell! I spent all this time setting a trap and I caught people who were already damned? That's not fair!"

Eris smiled at the poor horned troublemaker, "Tell ya what, why do the three of us head back to my place, I've got some great Kine Bud that is just ready to smoke, and I made a bong out of the Horsehead Nebula last week. Wanna try it out?"

Jesus and Satan looked at each other, looked at the earth and looked at Eris (who at this point made sure her dress slipped down to expose a little flesh)."I'm sure there is more entertaining stuff to do back at my place," she said sweetly and whisked them off to Limbo.

Jesus and Satan got so stoned that they forgot about the silly humans and their pathetic sheeplike ways. Eris, on the other hand decided to implement her little chaos causing schemes and what we see today is the fault of "She What Done It All".






Isn't it funny how simple it is for people to trash the idea of chaos, when in reality it surrounds every aspect of their life?

Isn't it funny how they will believe that a God Of Love will burn them for eternity, because of being bad for 70 years or so, but won't believe that Eris is just as real (and a lot more fun)?

Isn't it funny how Christians think that everyone wants to go to heaven, which if they thought about it sounds like a very boring place to be?

Isn't it funny how someone can say 'I Believe In God' and someone else can say 'I Believe in God', but then argue ofver which God is right, though neither has seen their God or any definate proof of their God's existance?

Isn't it funny that Christians use dogma instead of logical discussion and critical thinking to base their eentire view of reality?

Are you Laughing?

If not, think about this:

The student came to the Chaos Mage and asked for enlightenment, the Chaos Mage looked at the student and tried to remember the number of times that this student had asked this question. He tried to remember every illustration, parable and myth he had told the student in  order to set him on a decent path of thought.. yet, the student still came asking fdor enlightenment.

The Chaos Mage produced a bottle of everclear and a lighter. He poured the everclear on the student and lit it. Then he went back to the bar for some peace anhd quiet.


Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord