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#1
Perhaps "Annals Discordium" might be apropos...
#2
Principia Discussion / Re: Discordia Prophetica
March 30, 2009, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: Phineas T. Poxwattle on February 17, 2009, 07:02:37 PM
This is an x-post from elsewhere on the web. This is presumably the book which contains some of the "lost writings of Kerry Thornley" that we heard rumor about a few months ago...

Nope, it's some different "lost writings of Kerry Thornley" than the ones you heard about.

Been busy. Will talk soon.

Love,

Lincoln McMurphy
#3
Irony upon irony, that Fundamentalist Discordian.

He's still a spag, though (just as much as the object of his distraction), and worse, he's a willfully ignorant spag.

But a willfully ignorant spag with potential ;}P>

(Comment Unrelated: No-one speaks for me, but me.)
#4
Principia Discussion / Re: Zenarchist Swordsmen
March 30, 2009, 10:04:06 AM
Urgh! X{P> The Stench of Zen!
#5
Heya! I brought my oar!

A note: I am not a Lawyer. I also don't eat babies nor rape dolphins or ponies.

Quote from: Ratatosk on February 18, 2009, 04:34:23 AM
Also, I think that Copyright law still applies with Kopyleft, since Kopyleft is not a legal anything.

...except a legal declaration of the Author's intent. If that doesn't count, then nothing an Author asserts counts, and you might as well go get a job making deckchairs.

Quote from: Ratatosk on February 18, 2009, 04:45:28 PM
...the content of The Black Iron Prison pamphlet is Copyright of the authors...

Ah, so there's an Undeclared Interest finally revealed, hey? ;}P>

The Right to Copy in a work is controlled by the Author of that work. That's what "Copyright" means. If an Author believes it's in the best interest of themself and their work for them to lift restrictions on copying that work, then they have a number of options in asserting that this is the case. The Discordian "Kopyleft" is one of those options. There are others. For instance...

Quote from: Cain on February 20, 2009, 02:56:13 PM
http://creativecommons.org/license/

CC can be useful when dealing with All Mouth And Trousers spags. And there's more types of theft than just stealing someone's work.

Quote from: Dr Hoopla on February 20, 2009, 03:50:41 PM
So, you believe it would be within the spirit of kopyleft for someone to post "Alternate Snub #5" and say it was written by Hoopla, and then have the entire content of the story to consist solely of the word "Diarrhea"?

Verendum Veritas, HAIL ERIS! ...παρα δε Ἔρις παντα δυνατα εστιν... I have oft woken to discover this very scenario had occured... ;}P>

Quote from: Dr Hoopla on February 20, 2009, 03:57:07 PM
Well, that's patently ridiculous.  Clearly I have completely misunderstood every aspect of kopyleft.

Prolly not. Kopyleft changes nothing when it comes to Moral Rights, and your Moral Rights would be being violated if someone else's works were being presented falsely as your work.

QuoteIndependent of the author's economic rights, and even after the transfer of the said rights, the author shall have the right to claim authorship of the work and to object to any distortion, mutilation or other modification of, or other derogatory action in relation to the said work, which would be prejudicial to the author's honor or reputation.

What a clever Mr Berne! Sorry guys, Kopyleft doesn't mean you can wriggle out of others blaming you for what you wrote.

Quote from: Phineas T. Poxwattle on February 20, 2009, 04:05:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft

Article's broken (like so much in Wikipedia--blame spags who think they have a clue). Claims the PD dates from the 70s.

Quote from: Enki-][ on February 20, 2009, 04:05:58 PM
However, Anne Rice does not put her stuff into the public domain. In fact, she gives explicit restrictions on what would otherwise be part of fair use (Anne Rice fanfiction is not allowed, for instance).

Fair Use is a two-edged sword. You can put restrictions on the Fair Use of your work. It doesn't mean anything, that's all.

Quote from: Ratatosk on February 20, 2009, 04:28:32 PM
Though we could add the PD.com addendum: "This material is Kopyleft, unless you are an asshole."

I wish that was legally binding.

So very, very much.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2009, 06:22:10 PM
I think my shit is my shit.  I post it, I normally allow people to use it, but I insist on being credited.  Does that mean I can't be a Discordian?

Sounds Discordian to me.  The Ur-Discordians credited their and others' works. They believed in Kopyleft, because they supported each-other's work, reprinted and reused and redistributed it... which is why about 90% of Discordians are Discordians today--Discordianism was able to infect them down the memevine.

Kopyleft is not equal to Public Domain, it's demonstrably a declaration of Author Intent. "Reprint what you like". "I permit that this work may be Copied". "Don't reprint what displeases you".

Kopyleft is part and parcel of Discordianism... historically speaking, at least. I suspect this situation will continue, because you guys aren't as screwed in the head as you purport to be.

(Edited because Unicoding sux)
#6
Literate Chaotic / John Drake for Brigadier!
January 15, 2009, 01:29:18 AM
I hereby nominate John Drake, ex-M9, recently to be found at House 6, The Villlage, for the honour of Brigadier Saint in the Discordian Society.

Those who wish to speak for and/or against the motion may feel free to do so in the comments at this post.

Those who wish to go for a nice walk may use the path provided.

Discoursants may review Drake's worthiness here.
#7
_@/"

Quote from: Payne on January 14, 2009, 01:29:45 PM
QuoteThere once was a girl who was bored
She decided to try out discord
Her memes, they were lame
But she found instant fame
When we brutally stabbed her multiple times in the chest for being so annoying, breaking multiple major arteries as well as her poem's rhythm. Fnord.

My version

The Snail of Enlightenment Approves
#8
I always took it as a metaphor for not leaving the tea brew too long.

Ah! What a lovely cup of tea!

/drinks
#10
Principia Discussion / Re: Mungday!
January 08, 2009, 08:10:25 AM
Quote from: Telarus on January 06, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
I figure if I start a thread for each holyday with DrJon's exellent write-ups, then we can just bump them again this time next year.

Ironically enough, that's just what I'm doing. ;}P>

Quote from: Telarus on January 06, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
What's the next holyday,  now-then-yet?

It's the Anniversary of Emperor Norton's death today. RAW's on the 11th. Norton's birthday is the 17th. I called these examples of "X Days" in my gobshite post on the subject here.

As for "Canonical" Holy Days (bwahahahaha!!!), the Sloth Day of Chaos is on the 27th (Sloth Days are UrDiscordian, I don't know much about their origin, but they're from the 60s), the Flux Day is on the 19th of Feb (50 Chaos) and  the Eye Day of Chaos is on the 14th of March (Eye Days were started by Thornley as an end-of-season Zenarchic self-reflection day, and were mentioned--albeit as an Illuminati day--in Illuminatus).

I must remember to mention the Day of Discord this year...

Oh, I'm loving Intermittens, btw.
#11
Principia Discussion / Re: Zenarchist Swordsmen
January 08, 2009, 07:44:47 AM
*sniffsniff*

Why does it stink of Zen in here? Who's been fapping?

/leaves
#12
Quote from: NOVA on December 23, 2008, 09:01:39 AM
When you google "printable pdf discordian calendar" this comes up as 2nd.

First now.

I blame you.

Ya bastard.

;}P>
#13
Quote from: Cramulus on December 19, 2008, 01:36:20 AM

were they the ones with all the awesome original art?

Yeah, I had one of them on my wall for a while. it was bad ass.

What's the story with them?

Yep, that was them. Dunno what happenned to them, but 3173 came out, and 3174 never did.
#14
Principia Discussion / Re: Wikipedia had it coming...
December 19, 2008, 01:37:52 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 15, 2008, 02:03:24 PM
... soon there will be a print version of the Et Cetera Discordia...

Do you have a publisher yet? Email me if not.
#15
Quote from: Cyclone on December 19, 2008, 12:50:11 AM
http://ifile.it/s5m1ofi

nothing spectacular, but if anyone has been wanting one to print, here it is.

edit and redistribute freely.

It's a great shame that the Cuckoo Trail Cabal seems to have closed shop. Their annual calendars were feckin awesome.