hell yeah, fuck em up!
Endorsement: I am not convinced you even understand my concepts of moral relativity, so perhaps it would be best for you not to approach them.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Cain on June 19, 2020, 05:10:07 PM
*reads title*
OK
*stops doing something he wasn't doing anyway*
That was easier than I thought.
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2020, 09:03:22 PM
About Lincoln, this is the statue in Boston BLM is objecting to.
I'm pretty sure I can understand why someone wouldn't want to see themselves as some sort of helpless savage genuflecting to a white savior.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2020, 08:39:24 PMQuote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
I don't see any need to negotiate, though. There are no statues to Adolf Hitler, and everyone remembers who he was. The statues were put up decades after the civil war as an intimidation tactic.
Tear 'em down.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on June 24, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?
It doesn't seem simple to me.
Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws. The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 04:59:47 PM
my stance is to trust, but verify
by default, I believe women when they come forward with these things
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the real clincher?
Will Ellis say "these women are all lying for personal gain"
or "I was an asshole, I'm sorry, and I'd like to be better" ?
Quote from: Faust on June 18, 2020, 05:11:56 AM
No. Im going to be blunt about this:
I do not suppport him
I do not support them
I am not dismissing what they have said
I will not be making a judgement call on a person because of a twitter post
I will not be making a judgement of a person without hearing thier side of the story.
If that seems callous, tough. I expect more before I'm going to write someone off. I will not support an accusation without evidence or a chance for both parties to respond, nor do I ignore it.
If you are asking for more you are asking for a leap of faith. Faith is something I have short supply of
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:59:55 AM
And to be clear I have actually had to deal with cishets fucking going "oh, it's so stressful, I'm so worried for all those people" and I've successfully driven them all to block me or avoid me now because I will not fucking HAVE IT, they can do something or shut the fuck up, by fucking god even the people who are being publicly hung in trees at this very fucking moment are doing shit for their queer groups, the white girls can shut the fuck up and get to work or stop whining about me being in danger, I'm so fucking mad
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:39:04 AM
I got a rant on but I'm trying to regain my ability to keep the fucking rabies in check so all I'll say is my life-and-death situation and that of my queer siblings isn't for your fear, put your brain back at home or put work into fixing the lives of people who aren't your inner circle, none of this zero-investment "worry" bullshit, thanks
Tl;dr version is don't make my trauma about your mental fucking health