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Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon 2: Attack of the Scumsuckers
« on: March 28, 2003, 12:36:22 am »

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 10, 2003, 03:39:56 pm »
Quote from: phantom pope
between them 5km wide strip of UNO-presence in the beginning

Not a bad idea, considering the MFO between Egypt and Isreal has kept the peace for 30 years.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 10, 2003, 02:10:31 am »
Quote from: khagan
So in terms of the chicken and the egg, it was neither. It was, and always will be, the fault of the United States.

Actually, it was the British that set up Isreal.

Blaming the Americans for every bad thing in the world is as goofy as GW Bush excoriating Europe for not acting like good little vassals.

In addition, is the USA the only country that has been meddling in the Muslim world?  I think not.  We are ALL to blame on this one.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 09, 2003, 05:14:29 pm »
Quote from: Lister
It's the year of the goat; the year of the monkey is 2004.

See?  Europeans ARE smart-asses...  :wink:

No, I was not using the Chinese calendar, I was using the new American calendar.  The year of the monkey began on Nov 7, 2000 and will end (I HOPE) on Nov 7, 2004.

It's also the year of the goat, but the goat is US!

Or Kill Me / Re: A wee rant on the US in general, and a war w/Iraq...
« on: March 08, 2003, 03:09:15 pm »
Quote from: Euphoric
Alright, rant mode off. Needed to get that out.
To reiterate the main points:
- Americans as a whole are stoo-pid. Americans as individuals can be okay, even if the president is a shaved baboon.
- Europeans are a bunch of smart-ass arseholes.
- People who are neither from Europe nor America don't matter.
- The US should stop treating knowledge like an armed bomb, and stop treating armed bombs like candy.
- Hey, US-dweebs! Unlike what you may think, the rest of the world is NOT out to get you. And, we might even find you likeable. If you cut the fucking attitude!

1.  The majority of Americans did not vote for GW Bush.  American as a whole are not stupid, just too cynical to get involved in the political process.
2.  Europeans are currently what Americans used to be: Free.
3.  People from neither Europe nor America don't matter?  REEALLLY?  I wonder what the Canadians on this forum would have to say about that?  To what level of importance do you relegate the other 89% of humanity?
4.  Just because the rest of the world isn't out to get America doesn't mean that GW Bush isn't out to get YOU.  This is the year of the monkey...and if it isn't, it should be.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 08, 2003, 03:39:28 am »
Quote from: MapleMan
But the way people aproach things is based on both there situation and who they are neither of whitch they choose, now you might claim that they do choose who they are and they do choose there situation, but those choices all stem from there situation and themselves, which stem's from there situation and themselves, and so on and so forth.

No offense, but...RUBBISH! (John Cleese voice)  We are all motivated by the same basic drives...however, how we respond to those drives is entirely a matter of choice.  We have drives, not instincts.  Instincts cannot be disobeyed, drives can.

Otherwise, the entire human population would act just like Hitler.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 06, 2003, 10:45:26 pm »
Quote from: MapleMan
I dont think sadam is any more evil or a monster than any one of us... i iknow im gonna be accused of naievity (sp) etc but wth i just dont think anyone is...

Oh, monsters exist, all right.  Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Hussien...they're out there.  The problem is, SH hasn't attacked us, and who made us the world's cop?

We have problems of our own.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 06, 2003, 09:01:14 pm »
Quote from: ZombieZombieZombie
So what we have done, is gone on a vindictive rampage in the middle east, without understanding or educating ourselves to why the initial event happened in the first place. We pump ourselves up by buying flags, and patriotic T-shirts, and our president does everything his power to paint our enemies as the true form of evil (he's really colorful about that). So we get all pumped up on that too, because that makes us righteous.

Its disgusting.

I would say that many of our politicians feel that way, and some of our more Rush Limbaugh-ish citizens are...but they do not do it in my name, though they remain convinced that they do.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 06, 2003, 04:13:19 pm »
Quote from: ZombieZombieZombie
I just think its stupid that the US is trying to delude itself into thinking its some kind of moral/ethical authority. Its not, nor does it need to be.

Are you suggesting that we have all the authority we need because we CAN?

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 06, 2003, 04:11:26 pm »
Quote from: ZombieZombieZombie
You know, I'm not totally against the war on Iraq.

For one, I dont like Saddam Hussein.
For two, if this war is about economic power and oil... I dont feel like I have a problem with it.

All I can say in reply is:

1.  Saddam is a monster.  I don't like him either...but we have many monsters as ALLIES too, don't we?  Besides, who made us the world's cop?

2.  On the oil issue; please tell me you don't approve of using war as armed robbery writ large.  If we go in for oil, we are no different than Saddam was in 1990.

Or Kill Me / Reverend Roger Sermon#10...My shameful addiction to speed
« on: March 06, 2003, 04:07:47 pm »
You make a good point, but I have found that if I don't lose my nerve, I never have a problem (well, not often, anyway).

I have also perfected the no-cop zen.  No tickets for 16 years...(of course, now that I've SAID that...)

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 05, 2003, 10:12:46 pm »
Quote from: MapleMan
America is dead but humanity lives on (for now)...

Not dead.  Just very, very ill.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 05, 2003, 09:35:10 pm »
Quote from: Velvet Jesus
America is dead.  We didn't need Iraq or weapons of mass destruction to destroy us; our own leaders did it to us.  The dream is dead.

You make a good point, but don't let it get you down.

Americans are like crabgrass...if even a BIT survives, we tend to come back.

The problem, of course, is keeping that bit alive in the face of a tyrant, a right wing electorate, and Madison Avenue.

Or Kill Me / Rev Roger Sermon #11: Land of the Yahoos
« on: March 05, 2003, 07:23:21 pm »
Quote from: livid E. T.
Could you tell me a little about this Karl Rove guy?

I just went searching for stuff on him and it all points to him being a political strategist, a tool not a policy maker.

Perhaps this has the makings of a larger conspiracy than what I'm thinking of at the moment.

Karl Rove holds the title of Senior Advisor to the President.  He is the single most influential man in American politics today.

He is also a world-class chicken hawk.  He dodged the draft during the Vietnam war, but he is the single most eager man when it comes to THIS war.  Of course, HE won't be going...YOU might, though (provided you are a young American male).

Or Kill Me / Re: I don't wanna die for Fernando Poo
« on: March 05, 2003, 06:44:08 pm »
Quote from: livid E. T.
The whole point of this war must enough of the young person 'Freethinkiners', both literally and figurativly in such a way that those in the strength be able to reach Illumination.  Saddam are inside on it because, if it were not, we would go to North Korea.

RAW weirdness aside, the only illumination necessary is the profit margin of MacDonald Douglas and Exxon, which are GW Bush's masters.

If you would look on the true face of evil today, however, look at Karl Rove.

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