Beware, O ye of little faith, for the things I am about to say will piss thee off to no fucking end.
Let me start off by stating that Malaclypse the Younger is, and always has been a fraud. That's right. Bogus. Phoney. His real name is Kerry Thornley, and he did NOT "walk into the ocean" thirty years ago. He is alive and well, and living in Cleveland, Ohio.
Second, his book, Principia Discordia is gibberish. Utter rot. It has two or three good jokes in it, and one (1) good idea. It's basically an acid rant that reads like the end of a Robert Anton Wilson novel...which is to say, it's garbage. The one good idea, of course, being that you should think for yourself. Obviously, some backsliders like to quote it and/or insist that people act according to its "teachings" if they want to be a "true" Discordian.
Obviously bullshit.
In fact, this false prophet and his teachings have led countless Discordians astray. They have been led to believe that, to be a discordian, one must act as if one was tripping, even when NOT under the influence of psychadelic drugs. It has led people to believe that Eris is some demented aspect of Bacchus, where we all focus on having a good time. Poetry, games, inebriation, etc.
Sorry, wrong Gawd.
Eris is the goddess of DISCORD. Take a minute, and look that word up. I'll wait.
Back now? Good, we'll continue.
DISCORDianism. The adherence to, and spreading of, DISCORD. Tear the filthy thing down. Smash it, and drive the survivors into the wasteland...and it doesn't really matter what "it" is. We are the adherents of OPPOSITION. We oppose for the sake of opposition itself. We don't take sides, we don't play favorites, and it's a wonder that we are a "we" at all.
We are the proxies of entropy, not a fucking coffee house poetry club. We back the wrong horse, in the sheer hope of clogging up the guts of the machine, and it really makes no difference if the "machine" is malevolent or benign...Because, to us, NO organization is "benign".
You simply aren't going to gain the favor of the goddess by playing "three word game". She'd rather see you shoving chewing gum in the coin slots of the subway entrance stiles, or simply playing "let's you and him fight".
The higher up in an organization that you can cause chaos, the more Eris will shower you with her blessings. Avoid being caught (so you can do it again), and she'll even take them out of the big, heavy can first.
So spare me the quotes and the anecdotes from Principia. Forget that old fraud, Malaclypse, because Eris already has.
Or kill me.
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Thanks for the confession, yet the big question is why do you post on a forum that is based on what you consider gibberish?
You neglect to address the different types of chaos.
Also if you study the goddess there are two Eris'
"It was never true that there was only one Eris. There have always been two on earth. There is one you could like when you understand her. The other is hateful. The two Erites have separate natures. There is one Eris who builds up evil war, and slaughter. She is harsh; no man loves her, but under compulsion and by will of the immortals, men promote this rough Eris (Strife).
But the other one was born the elder daughter of black Nyx. The son of Kronos, who sits on high and dwells in the bright air set her in the roots of the earth and among men; she is far kinder. She pushes the shiftless man to work, for all his laziness. A man looks at his neighbour, who is rich: then he too wants work; for the rich man presses on with his ploughing and planting and ordering of his estate. So the neighbour envies the neighbour who presses on toward wealth. Such Eris (Strife) is a good friend to mortals." -Works and Days 11f
"One [Eris] is Trouble and Fighting. But the other is only Healthy Competition." -Works and Days 11
http://www.theoi.com/Khaos/Eris.htmlSome of us find the principia not gibberish, rather a mock philosophy that's a methaphor to wake people up from gibberish.
So, my probing proved true.
I was criticized and personally attacked for saying the posts here reflect heretical opinions, and you 3 have all admited you think the principia is a bunch of crap.
I find it a clever metaphor for the state of society on the planet, and the most productive way of actively working against it for change. I find it a funny way to dispell gibberish as apposed to being gibberish itself.
I also find it a way of bringing Taoism into the 20th century.
Most people feel Monty Python did more for social change than the hippies, and I tend to agree, with their mindfucking skits and films.
I believe that there is positive and negative order and chaos and believe in the promotion of the positive.
I believed these things prior to reading the principia, yet find it well articulated in the principia.
I belive there are enlightened and cabbages, saint-like jakers and greyfaces, people who want social norms and who get angry when they see people being free and happy, or having harmless fun.
Even if all the mindfucking and jaking doesn't change anything, it still made people think.
Even if all doesn't make people think, I still had fun, and on my death bed, I will leave with a good conscious knowing I didn't spend my life in fear of what other's thought nor lived my life based on it.
So, as others have mentioned the spiritual aspect, sticking gum in the subway gates, I being part gnostic part prankster, find that destructive chaos, and yielding nothing but bad karma.
So the big point is I think you're opinion corrupts the impressionable or people here checking out what principia discordianism is all about and I'm trying to point out the contradictions between those here and the actual principia, which you find crap.
If you believe in the negative Eris as being a positve and destructive chaos as a positve, then I will challenge it and hope those who just come here for some pseudo social acceptance's little brain nuerons may start firing in the right side of their brains.
The big contradiction is that you say you want people to think for themselves, yet you attack anyone who doesn't think like you regardless of if what the?? say is true or not.
True following Greg Hill and Kerry Thornley's opinions isn't thinking for yourself, except if you follow the part of thinking for yourself. Which is what I think the whole point of them comming up with all this was about. Of course they weren't the first for saying think for yourself, but did it in a very creative way.
So, I think all this is great actually.
I thought the board needed to be redefined and clarified and it has been by some, and I encourage others to as well.
I'm very proud to have initiated it as well.
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They also caused enough havoc.