Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Cramulus on July 13, 2010, 05:33:45 PM

Title: I Write Like....
Post by: Cramulus on July 13, 2010, 05:33:45 PM
http://iwl.me/

Check what famous writer you write like with this statistical analysis tool, which analyzes your word choice and writing style and compares them to those of the famous writers.

Any text in English will do: your latest blog post, journal entry, Reddit comment, chapter of your unfinished book, etc. For reliable results paste at least a few paragraphs (not tweets).





apparently I write like HP Lovecraft or Dan Brown  :argh!:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jenne on July 13, 2010, 05:39:53 PM
James Joyce and Stephen King!  :D  ETA: and BRAM STOKER!  Cool!  ETAagain: and my professional stuff (good idea, RWHN!) is Arthur Conan Doyle!  (weirdness!)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Suu on July 13, 2010, 05:40:07 PM
I write like George Orwell    :mrgreen:........and Dan Brown also.  :kingmeh:

And JK Rowling...and Stephen King...


I don't have a set style I guess...But if Brown and Rowling can publish books, so can I, damnit.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Kai on July 13, 2010, 05:42:16 PM
I write like Steven King.

No wonder I like his book On Writing.  :lulz:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
I tried two different types of writing.

For my professional work:  Isaac Asimov

For my Discordian stuff:  Stephen King
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2010, 05:46:49 PM
I pasted in one of my 30 Days of Eris pieces, and... Who the hell is Margaret Atwood?


So I tried again, and got Raymond Chandler.


Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Adios on July 13, 2010, 05:47:22 PM
James Joyce and Stephen King.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cramulus on July 13, 2010, 05:49:39 PM
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^ submitted this. Result? Stephen King.


submitted a chunk of chat from IRC: Kurt Vonnegut



Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2010, 05:49:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 13, 2010, 05:46:49 PM
I pasted in one of my 30 Days of Eris pieces, and... Who the hell is Margaret Atwood?


So I tried again, and got Raymond Chandler.




Margaret Eleanor Atwood, CC, O.Ont, FRSC (born November 18, 1939) is a Canadian author, poet, critic, essayist, feminist and social campaigner. While she may be best known for her work as a novelist, she is also an award winning poet, having published 15 books of poetry to date.[1][2]  Many of her poems have been inspired by myths and fairy tales, which were interests of hers from an early age.[3]  Atwood has also published short stories in Tamarack Review, Alphabet, Harper's, CBC Anthology, Ms., Saturday Night, Playboy, and many other magazines.

She is among the most-honoured authors of fiction in recent history; she is a winner of the Arthur C. Clarke Award and Prince of Asturias award for Literature, has been shortlisted for the Booker Prize five times, winning once, and has been a finalist for the Governor General's Award seven times, winning twice.[4]
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2010, 05:50:54 PM
I suspect it may be less analyzer and more random-author generator. 
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on July 13, 2010, 05:58:43 PM
I plugged in my "Half Asleep" post in OKM, and got Stephen King. Gonna repaste to see if it is random or accurate.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2010, 06:08:42 PM
I pasted the entire contents of this thread and got:  James Joyce
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2010, 06:12:44 PM
Well, I did test it.  I tried excerpts by James Joyce and Stephen King and it did give the correct results. 
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on July 13, 2010, 06:15:54 PM
I posted a few paragraphs from a rant I posted at TCC shortly before getting banned/re-banned, and apparently it sounds like William Shakespeare, heh.

ETA: Pasted the text from one of the pleadings that we file with the Courts and apparently the writing is like Stephen King's
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Wizard on July 13, 2010, 06:33:40 PM
I posted each chapter of my book so far, and got a different writer almost every  chapter. Rowling, Vladimir Nabokov, and Dan Brown and Chuck Palahniuk twice.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Richter on July 13, 2010, 06:34:19 PM
James Joyce. 
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2010, 06:35:17 PM
the dreadful hours informs me that his writings come back as James Joyce.  Weird. 
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Freeky on July 13, 2010, 06:39:01 PM
Jack London! Swote! :D

ETA: Oh wait, he was an alleged plagiarist. :sad:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2010, 06:40:17 PM
My BIP essay ("you're mostly blind") came back as Asimov, and the "Welcome to Prison" bit was Dan Brown.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on July 13, 2010, 06:45:23 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on July 13, 2010, 05:58:43 PM
I plugged in my "Half Asleep" post in OKM, and got Stephen King. Gonna repaste to see if it is random or accurate.

Half Asleep consistently got Stephen King.
Another post got James Joyce.

My lyrics got:
Bram Stoker (what?! lol)
James Joyce
Daniel Defoe
Bram Stoker (even though Lovecraft was the inspiration)


Eh, I'll accept it. 2/3 famous Irish writers suits me.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Richter on July 13, 2010, 06:47:28 PM
"Dan Brown" seems to be coming up a bit.  Either it's the catch all or he writes very zeitgeist.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on July 13, 2010, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Richter on July 13, 2010, 06:47:28 PM
"Dan Brown" seems to be coming up a bit.  Either it's the catch all or he writes very zeitgeist.

I'd guess zeitgeist.
That or you write more similarly than you would like to admit.
Don't get me wrong, I like Dan Brown. I just wish he would do something other than repeatedly write the same book.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on July 13, 2010, 07:11:01 PM
I put in things i wrote from now all they way back to age 14 and they all say James Joyce ...  :lol:
IM NOT SEEING IT

Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2010, 07:22:01 PM
Apparently my psych and literature essays are a mixture of HPL and Doug Adams!  :lol:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Richter on July 13, 2010, 07:41:16 PM
NICE (?)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2010, 07:44:43 PM
I'm happy with it.  Actually, I've read HPL's essays on literary criticism and I'm a fan of his thoughts on style, even if his actual work can be a bit dry.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Richter on July 13, 2010, 08:01:34 PM
His plots, pacing, and storytelling were great, but his wording is painful and plodding sometimes.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2010, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Richter on July 13, 2010, 08:01:34 PM
His plots, pacing, and storytelling were great, but his wording is shuffling, lurking, hideous, unspeakable, and eldrich sometimes.
/
(http://news.haverford.edu/blogs/erich-zann/files/2010/02/cthulhu.jpg)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2010, 08:05:18 PM
Yeah but could you imagine if he tried to take that desolate tone out of his narrative?  It'd make me giggle the whole time.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Richter on July 13, 2010, 08:07:05 PM
LMNO :   :lulz:

Sig:  True, but could you make it cleaner written but still keep that feel?
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2010, 08:08:28 PM
Me personally?  I doubt it.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on July 13, 2010, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: Richter on July 13, 2010, 08:01:34 PM
His plots, pacing, and storytelling were great, but his wording is painful and plodding sometimes.

I like his stories, but you're right. You can only hear "cyclopian" so many times and not cringe. That and you can only read Herbert West installments about 3 times in a row and not get annoyed by the recaps.

Not to mention his "subtle" racism.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2010, 09:22:34 PM
Because science (and boredom) demanded it:

Laz:  Dan Brown

DK:  Dan Brown

Lamanite:  Chuck Palahniuk (i don't know who that is)

MOC:  Dan Brown

and of course, Mr. AKK:  James Joyce



Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 13, 2010, 09:33:55 PM
So far, I've gotten Raymond Chandler (journal), Margaret Atwood (poetry), Oscar Wilde (poetry), JK Rowling (fiction), Mark Twain (essays), and Kurt Vonnegut (essays).
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 13, 2010, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: RWHN on July 13, 2010, 09:22:34 PM
Because science (and boredom) demanded it:

Laz:  Dan Brown

DK:  Dan Brown

Lamanite:  Chuck Palahniuk (i don't know who that is)

MOC:  Dan Brown

and of course, Mr. AKK:  James Joyce


:lulz:

This is priceless!
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 13, 2010, 09:42:36 PM
Quote from: RWHN on July 13, 2010, 09:22:34 PM
Because science (and boredom) demanded it:

Lamanite:  Chuck Palahniuk (i don't know who that is)

Palahniuk wrote the books Fightclub and Choke, which were both turned into movies.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Johnny on July 13, 2010, 09:59:44 PM

One of my essays dealing with gender roles translated to english got the result as James Joyce.

Not sure that is a compliment.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on July 13, 2010, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on July 13, 2010, 09:59:44 PM

One of my essays dealing with gender roles translated to english got the result as James Joyce.

Not sure that is a compliment.

I'm starting to think that we all draw from similar literary influences. Or that this search is very limited. For example, I've read Stoker, but never Defoe.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Iron Sulfide on July 13, 2010, 10:06:05 PM
for my screenplay, i got a consistent stephen king.

my summary writing for the same is dan brown.

my fake adverts come back a myriad of people:
Joyce, Ray Bradbury, Raymond Chandler and George Orwell so far...

Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: DiscoUkulele on July 13, 2010, 10:09:03 PM
Short story I wrote: Chuck Palahniuk

Most recent rant on here: Dan Brown

:argh!:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Johnny on July 13, 2010, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on July 13, 2010, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on July 13, 2010, 09:59:44 PM

One of my essays dealing with gender roles translated to english got the result as James Joyce.

Not sure that is a compliment.

I'm starting to think that we all draw from similar literary influences. Or that this search is very limited. For example, I've read Stoker, but never Defoe.

Ive never read Joyce =/

An interesting experiment id like to execute, is to post essays or posts from TCC or other places to see which authors come up (other than Dan Brown, that is).
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
I don't need to do this.

I have always acknowledged that I bite hard on the styles of Ellis, Thompson, Mencken, and Twain.

Considering Ellis swiped from Thompson who swiped from Mencken who swiped from Twain, I don't feel the least bit embarrassed about this.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Eater of Clowns on July 13, 2010, 11:08:58 PM
It told me Dan Brown for the majority of my submissions.  I'll just do the world a favor and quit writing.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Richter on July 13, 2010, 11:11:22 PM
I'm becoming suspicious of the algorithm here.  It's good for a laugh, but can't possibly be complex enough.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2010, 11:19:53 PM
Hell, most PEOPLE aren't complex enough to do that based on a single blurb of text.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Juana on July 13, 2010, 11:22:56 PM
Based on fairly large chunks of text: JK Rowling, Ian Fleming, Marget Atwood, HP Lovecraft, and James Joyce. I've never read Lovecraft or Joyce.  :?
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on July 13, 2010, 11:25:25 PM
I got Stephen King a few times, Raymond Chandler once, and Jane Austen once. Never read any of them. :lulz:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Dimocritus on July 13, 2010, 11:30:14 PM
Using only rants I've posted in OKM, I've gotten J.K. Rowling, Stephen King and Dab Brown. Do not like...
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: President Television on July 13, 2010, 11:48:29 PM
I ran a few things of mine through. My results:

Stephen King
Margaret Atwood
Stephen King
HP Lovecraft
Margaret Atwood
Dan Brown :(

So I guess I write like Margaret Atwood.

I have never read anything by Atwood.

EDIT: I posted some text from an MSN convo with a friend and apparently I was writing like Vladimir Nabokov. The guy who wrote Lolita.  :|
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
remember that the style of the person's writing may not have anything to do with the content... just because it says you write l like Stephen King doesn't mean you spend six pages describing somebody's medicine cabinet.

I do wonder what the algorithm is. I would guess some readability index like the Flesch–Kincaid Grade Level is involved. Computers can easily calculate those things. In case you're curious...

     FKRA = (0.39xASL) + (11.8xASW) − 15.59

     Where, FKRA = Flesch-Kincaid Reading Age

     ASL = Average Sentence Length (i.e., the number of words divided by the number of sentences)

     ASW = Average number of Syllables per Word (i.e., the number of syllables divided by the number of words)


there are a number of readability indexes

you can test a chunk of text here: http://www.addedbytes.com/code/readability-score/

for example, my piece The Strange Times (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=The_Strange_Times) is apparently written at an 8th grade level  :lol:


Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Eater of Clowns on July 14, 2010, 12:52:25 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
remember that the style of the person's writing may not have anything to do with the content... just because it says you write l like Stephen King doesn't mean you spend six pages describing somebody's medicine cabinet.

I do wonder what the algorithm is. I would guess some readability index like the Flesch–Kincaid Grade Level is involved. Computers can easily calculate those things. In case you're curious...

     FKRA = (0.39xASL) + (11.8xASW) − 15.59

     Where, FKRA = Flesch-Kincaid Reading Age

     ASL = Average Sentence Length (i.e., the number of words divided by the number of sentences)

     ASW = Average number of Syllables per Word (i.e., the number of syllables divided by the number of words)


there are a number of readability indexes

you can test a chunk of text here: http://www.addedbytes.com/code/readability-score/

for example, my piece The Strange Times (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=The_Strange_Times) is apparently written at an 8th grade level  :lol:




I wrote the entirety of '09 NaNoWriMo in Google Docs, which has the Flesch-Kincaid reability level included in their word count feature, which I would use frequently.  I cringed as the project went on and I saw the index plunge every day.  It started pretty high, and then, well.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: President Television on July 14, 2010, 12:57:41 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
for example, my piece The Strange Times (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=The_Strange_Times) is apparently written at an 8th grade level  :lol:

I don't mean to toot my own horn(obviously I do), but when I was in Grade 4 I was reading at a Grade 8 level. :)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Golden Applesauce on July 14, 2010, 02:19:08 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
remember that the style of the person's writing may not have anything to do with the content... just because it says you write l like Stephen King doesn't mean you spend six pages describing somebody's medicine cabinet.

I do wonder what the algorithm is. I would guess some readability index like the Flesch–Kincaid Grade Level is involved. Computers can easily calculate those things. In case you're curious...

     FKRA = (0.39xASL) + (11.8xASW) − 15.59

     Where, FKRA = Flesch-Kincaid Reading Age

     ASL = Average Sentence Length (i.e., the number of words divided by the number of sentences)

     ASW = Average number of Syllables per Word (i.e., the number of syllables divided by the number of words)


there are a number of readability indexes

you can test a chunk of text here: http://www.addedbytes.com/code/readability-score/

for example, my piece The Strange Times (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=The_Strange_Times) is apparently written at an 8th grade level  :lol:


I've always been suspicious of "reading level" formulas.  I put this (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=25205.msg882014#msg882014) post into the link you gave.  If you only include the main paragraph, you get

Flesch-Kinkaid Grade Level - 88
Gunning-Fog Score - 92
Smog Index - 19
Automated Readability Index - 112
Coleman-Liau Index - 9 (pretty reasonable, actually.)

Now, that post is not the paragon of legibility, but run-on sentences do not require grade 80+ to decipher.  That's moronic.

I feel the need to devise my own index, now.  It should count clauses in sentences, and use frequency of words in common usage rather than multisyllableness.


Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 14, 2010, 12:52:25 AM
I wrote the entirety of '09 NaNoWriMo in Google Docs, which has the Flesch-Kincaid reability level included in their word count feature, which I would use frequently.  I cringed as the project went on and I saw the index plunge every day.  It started pretty high, and then, well.

No need to feel bad about that!  A lower reading level (should) means that your text is easier to understand.  People don't read books because slogging through sentences your sentences is difficult, but because they like the story.

Quote from: CAPTAIN SLACK on July 14, 2010, 12:57:41 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
for example, my piece The Strange Times (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=The_Strange_Times) is apparently written at an 8th grade level  :lol:

I don't mean to toot my own horn(obviously I do), but when I was in Grade 4 I was reading at a Grade 8 level. :)

Tested at "13+" in grade 4.  Where's that vuvuzela emote?
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Johnny on July 14, 2010, 02:26:19 AM

But wait Cram, theres several things, your Strange Times scored a 69/100 in "readability", even do its "8th grade".
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Johnny on July 14, 2010, 02:28:31 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on July 14, 2010, 02:19:08 AM
Quote from: CAPTAIN SLACK on July 14, 2010, 12:57:41 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
for example, my piece The Strange Times (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=The_Strange_Times) is apparently written at an 8th grade level  :lol:

I don't mean to toot my own horn(obviously I do), but when I was in Grade 4 I was reading at a Grade 8 level. :)

Tested at "13+" in grade 4.  Where's that vuvuzela emote?

I guess it would be more "important" where you are at right now  :lol:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Johnny on July 14, 2010, 02:31:06 AM

Im at 25%/100 readability, which is why im not sure the comparison to Joyce was a flattering one (considering i tested out an essay, not a short story or similar).

Grade level 18, so i guess i should have graduated college 2 years ago? FML for starting late.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Iason Ouabache on July 14, 2010, 03:11:53 AM
I got a whole lot of Margaret Atwood and Dan Brown. I wish they would actually explain why your style matches the particular author.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 03:41:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on July 14, 2010, 02:19:08 AM
Now, that post is not the paragon of legibility, but run-on sentences do not require grade 80+ to decipher.  That's moronic.

yeah, but your example is unrealistic. Nobody writes 80+ word sentences.


In the textbook industry, we use the grade index as a tool to hone writing to a certain difficulty level. For example, a third grade reading book will go from reading level 2.5 to 4 over the course of the year.


My company publishes ESL books, which are geared to be somewhat easier to read than the mainstream textbooks. Our level 5 book (for example) has roughly the same grade reading level as a 2nd grade mainstream book.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 14, 2010, 04:02:21 AM
Dan Brown?

DAN FUCKING BROWN?

This is a joke, right?  They have about 5 authors listed, and they are assigned at random.  Cram, you slick bastard.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jasper on July 14, 2010, 05:30:38 AM
Huh, my social psych final had a Gunning Fog score of 14.  Which is more or less exactly the 'grade' I wrote it in.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Chairman Risus on July 14, 2010, 05:59:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 14, 2010, 04:02:21 AM
Dan Brown?

DAN FUCKING BROWN?

This is a joke, right?  They have about 5 authors listed, and they are assigned at random.  Cram, you slick bastard.

I'm getting the feeling there are a very limited option of authors you can be assigned to. If there were a wider selection and an explanation of why you match up with certain authors, I'd be interested in this.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Golden Applesauce on July 14, 2010, 06:06:57 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 03:41:43 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on July 14, 2010, 02:19:08 AM
Now, that post is not the paragon of legibility, but run-on sentences do not require grade 80+ to decipher.  That's moronic.

yeah, but your example is unrealistic. Nobody writes 80+ word sentences.


In the textbook industry, we use the grade index as a tool to hone writing to a certain difficulty level. For example, a third grade reading book will go from reading level 2.5 to 4 over the course of the year.


My company publishes ESL books, which are geared to be somewhat easier to read than the mainstream textbooks. Our level 5 book (for example) has roughly the same grade reading level as a 2nd grade mainstream book.

I will admit to looking at the formulas and going for the crazy edge case where they break down horribly.

I just don't see how the grade level formulas work.  I agree with the vague notion of a "reading level," but don't really see how to go about quantifying it without having a bunch of students read the books and rate them.  A sentence that's too long and/or with too many clauses is certainly more difficult to understand, but is that a reading skill problem?  I'll freely admit to not knowing much about the process of learning to read, but it seems to me that dealing with overlong sentences is more of a working-memory problem - remembering which clauses go to which word, etc - than a reading skill.  I would think that the hardest sentences to read would be the ones with the most possible interpretations, where the reader has to figure out which one the author actually meant, or garden path sentences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_path_sentence).

The factors I'm seeing in making reading a given text more difficult are:
-vocabulary (including common words used in uncommon or archaic ways.  "Lusty men" means something totally different if the author wrote a century or three ago.)
-the length of a sentence (if you forget how the sentence started before you get to the end, it's not going to make sense.)
-the clearness of the sentence (which clauses / descriptors go to which other words, which words belong to which clauses, which noun is the subject - anything that makes constructing a parse tree more difficult.)
-inherently confusing words (vague pronouns, words which can be different parts of speech in different circumstances, homonyms.)
-subject matter (ever go back an read a book you loved as a kid, only to be discover that they were having sex?)
-symbolism and metaphors (can be tricky to pick up on, especially if you're not familiar with the culture of the author.)
-deception (seeing through attempts to mislead the reader, discovering the bias of an author attempting to appear neutral, noting absent relevant information)

Heuristics that look at word / sentence length get indirect measures on the first two (arguably #3 as well) but not much else.  I'm surprised that they work at all.  Of course, if you're writing a textbook, you don't use much symbolism and the subject matter is carefully chosen to match the grade level, so I guess that helps.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 14, 2010, 08:47:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 14, 2010, 04:02:21 AM
Dan Brown?

DAN FUCKING BROWN?

This is a joke, right?  They have about 5 authors listed, and they are assigned at random.  Cram, you slick bastard.

I got a different author for every piece, including different pieces within series, so it's obviously not all that sophisticated. I think it's working primarily on vocabulary and sentence length.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on July 14, 2010, 01:18:20 PM
I don't even think they look at the vocabulary.  I'm guessing they have a program that looks for conjunctions, punctuation, and (as Nigel said) sentence/word length.  They then took texts by each author, analyzed it, and made that a base score in a quadrant on a grid.  Your piece is then analyzed the same way and placed somewhere on that grid.  Whoever's pattern you're closest to, that's "who you write like".

Since most of us post in a conversational manner, Dan Brown and Stephen King would turn up the most, because that's the style they try to employ.


Ooh!  Be right back.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on July 14, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
Back.

Apparently, Hirly0 writes like Douglas Adams and... Dan Brown.


Fail analysis is fail.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jenne on July 14, 2010, 01:59:00 PM
:lulz:  But still, it was fun.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Rumckle on July 14, 2010, 02:05:37 PM
I decided to put some random song lyrics in:

Paparazzi sounds like Chuck Palahniuk

Sympathy for the Devil sounds like Ian Fleming
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Eater of Clowns on July 14, 2010, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 14, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
Back.

Apparently, Hirly0 writes like Douglas Adams and... Dan Brown.


Fail analysis is fail.

Brilliant.   :lulz:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cramulus on July 14, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 14, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
Back.

Apparently, Hirly0 writes like Douglas Adams and... Dan Brown.


Fail analysis is fail.

what author would have been a more appropriate answer for hirley0?
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on July 14, 2010, 02:47:50 PM
R2D2?
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 14, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
Okay, I had to do these too:

Hugh:  Dan Brown
Horab:  Kurt Vonnegut
LHX:  Jane Austen
Purple Eris:  Bobcat Goldthwait
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 14, 2010, 03:33:18 PM
I used the piece I did on my Dad.  It's at EB&G.  It told me I write like Chuck Palahniuk.

YAY? :?
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Jenne on July 14, 2010, 04:02:15 PM
:lulz: @ LHX and PurpleEris...that's fucking sweet.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Triple Zero on July 14, 2010, 05:19:31 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on July 14, 2010, 06:06:57 AM
I just don't see how the grade level formulas work.  I agree with the vague notion of a "reading level," but don't really see how to go about quantifying it without having a bunch of students read the books and rate them.  

I'm pretty sure this is described on the wikipedia page about them, but I might have read about it some place else. Go look it up if you like.

Anyway, they did pretty much exactly that. Got a bunch of students to read books and rate them. Then they made up a formula and found that with the correct coefficients it has a pretty high correlation with grade level.

Check the wikipedia page or the related links to see how high that correlation is, because they did also test for that.

Therefore there are multiple grading formulas, because there's more than one way to measure this effect.



The important point to realize about the grade level formulas is that they only work one way. If you write a text in a normal manner, then you can check its grade level with pretty high confidence by applying a very simple sentence length / syllable length type of formula. Because the average correlation with all those other (very reasonable) criteria such as vocabulary etc is very high. That is, someone that uses long sentences and lots of syllables tends to write using a larger vocabulary, use more metaphores, confusing words, etc etc.

Except that those things are all pretty hard to measure, so they tried to find a formula that is able to estimate those variables up to a certain amount of accuracy.

The other way around, it doesn't work. If you have a text that is too high a grade level, it's not going to be magically easier to read for kids if you make the sentences shorter. Even though the formula would tell you it is a lower grade, if you use the same obscure wordings and metaphores in shorter sentences, it's not going to be that much easier for kids, of course :-)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: AFK on July 14, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
At the risk of sounding too DK-ish...

It is really, really hard to write for a lower grade level or reading comprehension.  Back at the old job I had to write a curriculum for an on-line parenting course and I was constantly having to revise my work because I was making it too hard for the average parent to read.  I think we were supposed to shoot for a 5th or 6th grade level if I remember correctly.  Hats off to those who can do it easily. 
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2010, 05:46:14 PM
Kurt Vonnegut, going by my Perfect Nihilism rant.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2014, 11:15:48 AM
I still write like Kurt Vonnegut, 4 years later.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: hooplala on March 26, 2014, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: AFK on July 14, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
At the risk of sounding too DK-ish...

It is really, really hard to write for a lower grade level or reading comprehension.  Back at the old job I had to write a curriculum for an on-line parenting course and I was constantly having to revise my work because I was making it too hard for the average parent to read.  I think we were supposed to shoot for a 5th or 6th grade level if I remember correctly.  Hats off to those who can do it easily.

Ah, so he DID write shit like this way back in 2010... the more you know.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on March 26, 2014, 11:25:05 AM
I used one of my project summaries at work, and got H.P. Lovecraft.


I knew it, I work for the Elder Gods.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Faust on March 26, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
Quotedick cock, faggot nigger, junk, anus

Not what I was expecting:

(http://i.imgur.com/omyISb1.png?1?1201)

Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Sita on March 26, 2014, 11:47:06 AM
Apparently I write like Stephen King.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 26, 2014, 12:14:01 PM
My new shit is like Arthur C. Clark  :eek:  8)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: hooplala on March 26, 2014, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 26, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
Quotedick cock, faggot nigger, junk, anus

Not what I was expecting:

(http://i.imgur.com/omyISb1.png?1?1201)

Reads like Finnegans Wake to me!
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on March 26, 2014, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on March 26, 2014, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 26, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
Quotedick cock, faggot nigger, junk, anus

Not what I was expecting:

(http://i.imgur.com/omyISb1.png?1?1201)

Reads like Finnegans Wake to me!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FryIuCNAql4/UzLbEnD_ZUI/AAAAAAAAA90/w3oD8qaGyS8/w456-h590-no/Joyce.bmp)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Eater of Clowns on March 26, 2014, 12:52:15 PM
Trivia Notes Part I:  Chuck Palahniuk

Trivia Notes Part II:  Cory Doctorow

Some of It (Marrowman Part I):  William Gibson

Necronomicoin (Part I):  Douglas Adams

These are all vast improvements over when I tried it the first time around and got Dan Brown.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: hooplala on March 26, 2014, 01:14:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 26, 2014, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on March 26, 2014, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 26, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
Quotedick cock, faggot nigger, junk, anus

Not what I was expecting:

(http://i.imgur.com/omyISb1.png?1?1201)

Reads like Finnegans Wake to me!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FryIuCNAql4/UzLbEnD_ZUI/AAAAAAAAA90/w3oD8qaGyS8/w456-h590-no/Joyce.bmp)

It got me through high school. 
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 26, 2014, 04:09:02 PM
This is an awesome way to pimp your work if you're into self promotion or publishing

"It's like reading J.K. Rowling" -- http://iwl.me/  8)
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: EK WAFFLR on March 26, 2014, 06:20:27 PM
Apparently th Arthur stuff I wrote a while back (I'm gonna finish it, promise), reads like Douglas Adams.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Suu on March 26, 2014, 07:00:27 PM
I write like Margaret Mitchell.  :kingmeh:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 26, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
Cool! I just scored a Stephen King for Conversations from Hell pt.1
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: President Television on March 28, 2014, 01:58:04 AM
Ray Bradbury. Hell yes.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2014, 02:01:55 AM
I'm gonna try this tomorrow.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Mangrove on March 30, 2014, 03:52:38 PM
David Foster Wallace
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 30, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
Vladimir Nabokov.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: LMNO on March 31, 2014, 12:17:26 PM
Mangrove!
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cramulus on March 31, 2014, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on March 30, 2014, 03:52:38 PM
David Foster Wallace

GREAT CAESAR'S GHOST
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2014, 02:12:54 PM
Posted The Corporal's Tale from LOBB and got...

PAPA HEMINGWAY! 

WOOP WOOP!
\
:hammer:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Pæs on April 02, 2014, 10:24:13 PM
I want to make one of these now which doesn't return authors, but random figures from history, many of them monstrous.

GRATS, YOU WRITE LIKE POL POT.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Manta Obscura on April 03, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on March 30, 2014, 03:52:38 PM
David Foster Wallace

That's awesome, I got David Foster Wallace, too.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Telarus on April 03, 2014, 03:22:20 AM
Checked a couple of pieces and got James Joyce and H. P. Lovecraft.  :evil:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Suu on April 03, 2014, 03:29:17 AM
The Good Reverend Roger.



...This thing is fucking rigged.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 03, 2014, 03:35:51 AM
I write like William Gibson. Which is interesting since he's been recommended to me a few times.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Aucoq on April 04, 2014, 05:52:32 PM
I did four stories and got Stephen King, Rudyard Kipling, Oscar Wilde, and P. G. Wodehouse.
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Sita on April 04, 2014, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: Sita on March 26, 2014, 11:47:06 AM
Apparently I write like Stephen King.
Tried this again with two more pieces of writing: a fan-fic I did back in high school and my The Carnival piece.

The fan-fic gave me Stephen King again, but The Carnival gave me Cory Doctorow.

Never have read anything by Doctorow before and just realized I've been following him on Tumblr without realizing it. Need to see about finding a book or two by him now...
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on April 04, 2014, 06:31:30 PM
I got David Foster Wallace (who I'm completely unfamiliar with), for a brief I wrote about the Hamdi v. Rumsfeld decision.

The court opinion itself got FUCKING H.P. LOVECRAFT

:lol:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Aucoq on April 04, 2014, 07:07:33 PM
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on April 04, 2014, 06:31:30 PM
I got David Foster Wallace (who I'm completely unfamiliar with), for a brief I wrote about the Hamdi v. Rumsfeld decision.

The court opinion itself got FUCKING H.P. LOVECRAFT

:lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: I Write Like....
Post by: Telarus on April 04, 2014, 07:17:36 PM
 :lol:

Lovecraft used lots of technical and specialized terms, and had a tendency to string complicated adjectives together (yah, sounds like a court opinion, Ha!).