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This just made my otherwise shitty day amazing

thank you

My mom is a pastor, but she doesn't really believe in most of it. She has like 2 years left until she can retire, and always talks about how her job is super stressful and she cn't wait to quit. She's read a good bit of the Principia, and loves everything she's read.

It still sucked growing up in a church. Literally, in a church. She was a single mom, so I spend most of my childhood going to weddings every weekend and spending all afternoon in her office.

It's as bad as the garbage about Ms Mao making the fist.

That's one of the only parts of the book I really don't like. The rest is either great or neutral, but that scene was garbage, and it detracts from the whole thing.

problem I had with trolling Philosophy class was that usually there's not much time (or reason) for discussion.

you can discuss any Philo topic at length, but in the end the class comes down to learning what certain Philosophical thinkers thought and the arguments against those thoughts. discussing it just leads to a slower class with less learning.

concluding, the best way to troll Philosophy class is to ask questions that are directly on topic.

Agreed.

Just to clarify though, it's normal that it comes down to learning what certain thinkers thought, and where they oppose each other. They've spent their lives debating and reflecting upon a subject that people in an entry level class are just discovering.

Even if they did come up with an incongruity in a well-accepted syllogism or they found a new characteristic of a categorical imperative, it would take years for the idea to be chewed over, reviewed, and accepted.

Unlike some people here, I contend Philosophy can be useful....because if taught properly, it forces you to engage with the argument of the opposition based both on it's factual accuracy and on it's internal coherency.  Also, it forces you to think about the assumptions implicit in the argument, the a priori and a posteriori core of what the argument actually says about how reality operates, and if you can prove the latter of those two to be wrong....well then, you've just destroyed the opponent's argument.

Agreed as well, though I must admit it's not the reason why I chose it for my studies: gotta get a degree in something, might as well choose what I love.


We had a great troll last year now that I think of it, but he didn't do it on purpose. He wasn't fully literate, and he went to all of the classes long enough to ask the teacher "mais c'est quoi le pourquoi du pourquoi???" (but what is the why/because of the why/because?) 7 times in a 2 hour period, and once he had annoyed everyone to the point where the teacher ignored his presence, he stopped showing up. He gave our philosophy department a great inside joke at least.

Ask them to explain why the Ontological Argument is wrong.

This stumped my A-level philosophy class for weeks, much to the exasperation of my teacher and myself.

You couldn't just read them Kant's explanation and be done with it?

Precise trolling requires knowledge of the prereqs.

For instance, will people in your class have read Descartes, Spinoza, Thomas of Aquinas, St. Augustine, ect. already?

I saw an interesting documentary about this called the Matrix, you guys should check it out

Rien à voir:

My town has the second largest beer-consuming festival in Europe! And it's #1 in the world I think for beer consumed in 24hours. And it's not even officially a beer festival: it's a 24 bike race.

50,000 drunk people, of which many are riding bikes in a 2 or 3 km circle around a university town


We don't have a special beer though for the 24 heure vélo. So it doesn't really pertain to this topic. It's still cool though!

I spent 16 years of my life in Chicago Minora, which people there don't consider Chicago (it's not, it's the suburbs). Now it's just easier to say I'm from Chicago, cos people here are proud when they know that it's in the middle of the states, and very few know it's in Illinois.

A lot of dismissals I was involved in, in fact all I was personally involved in, was wrongful.
When you get a job you should get copies of your contract and go over it with a fine comb. Cause you have lots of rights as a worker, but there no one but YOU stand up for them. I could tell you from personal experience even your union half the time wont do anything to help you unless you make a fuss.

I was all but let go for talking about the Principia at a temp job once. The managers were SUPER christian, and I was reading it during a break, so they brought it up, and the next day $100 were missing from my register, and so they had to suspend me. I quit right after, having found a much better job, but I'm not a fool. I didn't take the money, and the manager who didn't like my interest in non-cristianity counted the drawer and suspended me.

I learned to shut the fuck up about what I think around the manager. It's not right, but it happens, and I shouldn't have been flaunting that book, which brings up a sensitive topic, around the workplace, I knew these guys were crazy-ass christians. I completely disagree with what happened there, but if it had been a book about how to hide corpses or some creepy shit like that, I would understand them wanting to get me out of there.

But when it comes to the issue of giving an air of irresponsibility in a public seeing space, I simply can't blame the manager for not wanting to work with irresponsible people. If I, as a manager, saw that someone was an irresponsible person in town square - which is the analog equivalent to a public facebook page - but I couldn't let that affect my hiring decision, I would be super pissed.

That being said, fuck those guys who said I stole $100.

I don't know American law. I could say in every service place I've been it, and everywhere I know, employees count their own till and management double checks its. The two counts are then are compared.
Management is NOT allowed to count your till if you tell them I wanna count it first.

That's usually how it is, this is the only time I've seen it differently. It was a fireworks store at which each till would run around $1300/hour, and they didn't trust anyone. Every other place I've had a register at, I was the only one to count it, the managers always trusted me, sometimes even more than they trusted themselves to do the math.

I just did 3 HUGE exams in 24 hours, I deserve to drink tonight! Especially as I have 9 days before my last exam. Plus, I haven't had any beer since I got back to Belgium almost 2 weeks ago!

Tonight is Tongerlo Triple, which holds a special place in my heart. It's not expensive - 3.89euros for 4 beers, which is part of the reason I love it. It's a blond beer, 9% alcohol, with a taste that reminds me of Westmalle Triple. On most days, it's just barely not as good as Westmalle, but on some days it's even better. It's not my favorite blond (which oscillates between Piraat and Malheur 10, currently Malheur 10), but it's definitely worth trying.

Allez les bonnes bières blondes pas chères!, hein?

A lot of dismissals I was involved in, in fact all I was personally involved in, was wrongful.
When you get a job you should get copies of your contract and go over it with a fine comb. Cause you have lots of rights as a worker, but there no one but YOU stand up for them. I could tell you from personal experience even your union half the time wont do anything to help you unless you make a fuss.

I was all but let go for talking about the Principia at a temp job once. The managers were SUPER christian, and I was reading it during a break, so they brought it up, and the next day $100 were missing from my register, and so they had to suspend me. I quit right after, having found a much better job, but I'm not a fool. I didn't take the money, and the manager who didn't like my interest in non-cristianity counted the drawer and suspended me.

I learned to shut the fuck up about what I think around the manager. It's not right, but it happens, and I shouldn't have been flaunting that book, which brings up a sensitive topic, around the workplace, I knew these guys were crazy-ass christians. I completely disagree with what happened there, but if it had been a book about how to hide corpses or some creepy shit like that, I would understand them wanting to get me out of there.

But when it comes to the issue of giving an air of irresponsibility in a public seeing space, I simply can't blame the manager for not wanting to work with irresponsible people. If I, as a manager, saw that someone was an irresponsible person in town square - which is the analog equivalent to a public facebook page - but I couldn't let that affect my hiring decision, I would be super pissed.

That being said, fuck those guys who said I stole $100.

So, I am listening to it on Audio for the the first time now. Has anyone else did this? I searched the boards before I posted in case it had been brought up before.. anyways, I am enjoying it but some things that I find weird...

1. First, the readers are English, so naturally there pronunciation is different then the way I read it in my head. But do people really say CHI-cago as opposed to Sh-cago? Hagbard CHE-line non Cee-line?

2. The recording isn't the best and sometimes you can hear breathing and snorting in the background

3. The narrator really emphasizes the word PENIS, like much more then needed

Other then that, I am enjoying it... Thoughts?

I'm from Chicago - the 'chicagoan' way to say it is "tchi-KA-go".

She quit. She was not fired. Advertisers where pulling out. And I don't know the details of her contract, if she even had one.
Also her opinions, as a radio host, are actually THE job. The way she interacted with the public mattered. It is not the same as someone working in a grocery store, or doing tech work.

Depends on the job, it's not a black and white issue, and you're certainly right in some cases. But a grocery store clerk who makes 'off' comments and makes people feel uncomfortable won't be around too long, he reflects poorly on the business, and he is interacting with the public.

You can pass for a native speaker easily on the internet, and native speakers use "alright" (which my spellcheck didn't catch there) all the time. When it comes to writing university papers I clean up my act of course, except that I don't write uni papers in English anymore, but otherwise you can always pass for a lazy native speaker.

I type "cos" instead of because, even though I'm generally disturbed by bad grammar, and I don't give a fuck. It's shorter.

Anyway there's no organization like l'Academie française which definitively says which is and is not a correct usage of a word, and because English is spoken in SO many places right now (which is a problem, linguistically, for English), many alternate spellings can be considered correct! However, for official things, they usually ask you to chose one type of English and stick to it (if you say "trousers", you should write "organisation", if you say "pants" you should write "organization").