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Eh, I'm all for the whole thing going up in flames. 

Emanenatize the Eschaton my friend!

I think I spelled that wrong, but I am too lazy to speel check.  This is why the Earth is doomed.

It will be my unbirthday. 

Silly people...everyone knows the End of the World happened on 21 April 1863.

I suppose better late than never.

Decade over.  The Commander wins.

yay me! 

I am not a pacifist, sometimes force can be justified. However, I'm saying that mass force doesn't get a discount on murder in bulk. Its just a lot of individuals murdering individuals and each of those murders will have to be justified by the people responsible for that murder, from the solider to the top leader.

I prefer the path of fewest murders, whenever such a thing is possible.

I see. So, if the individuals involved in a group action are aware that their actions lead to the murder of others, but they can justify it, it is not so bad as when the individuals are not aware that their actions lead to the murder of others or when they cannot justify the murders.

Am I reading you correctly?

Assuming, of course, that the humans doing the justification have a reasonable system of ethics

I'm thinking that if they think of what they are doing as murder, then they are at least half-way there.

That seems like a fairly reasonable way of looking at things.  It allows for the concept of a "Just War" while requiring that those involved have a realistic view of just what the consequences of going to war would be.

I have 3 mothers and my grandmother to send cards to and call.  Which is still less than the 3 dads, 1 father-in-law and 1 grandfather I deal with for Fathers day.

Divorce sucks.

On the upside...I usually score pretty well on my Birthday.

NOW I WANT SOME GOOD PORN!

I was told those types of BUMPS were objectifying...therefore...I object. 

I am not a pacifist, sometimes force can be justified. However, I'm saying that mass force doesn't get a discount on murder in bulk. Its just a lot of individuals murdering individuals and each of those murders will have to be justified by the people responsible for that murder, from the solider to the top leader.

I prefer the path of fewest murders, whenever such a thing is possible.

I see. So, if the individuals involved in a group action are aware that their actions lead to the murder of others, but they can justify it, it is not so bad as when the individuals are not aware that their actions lead to the murder of others or when they cannot justify the murders.

Am I reading you correctly?

Does Threadjacking make us like Vikings? 

No, it makes you an asswipe.

Ok...but I still get to pillage, right?

Right at North Gate.

That's near thrown weapons isn't it?  I always camped with the Barony Marche of the Debatable Lands on the Serengheti.

I miss Pennsic...

And Fencing...

And Wolgemut...

Dang it...I'm all nostalgic now.  Curse you LUNA!

NO MOAR SCA THREADJACKING.

Does Threadjacking make us like Vikings?  I like being a cyber Viking.

East.   

Cool.  I'm currently in Atlantia, but haven't played since we moved down here from Aethelmearc.  Adding a bambina to the mix has made it difficult to make time to get involved.

Let us know if you'll be at Pennsic.  There will be booze (just none for the bambina).

Good to know Discordians are representing at the War...but unfortunately we will not be attending anytime soon.  If I can ever manage to get a job back in Pittsburgh it might be a possibility, but chances are remote.  Where do you normally camp?

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Yeah, that was kinda my point. I mean really, the drone attacks, the door to door firefights, the bombings... its all sanctioned murder. We just call it war so we can feel better about it.

As far as I can tell, sanctioned murder has existed as long as the Rule of Law in every civilization (Maybe there are some exceptions, I dunno). I am reminded of Prof La Paz from the book 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress', he argued that every individual is completely responsible for their actions. The man who pulls the trigger is guilty of murder, be he a soldier or a gangster. following 'orders' doesn't change the fact.

Indeed, as far as I can tell the biggest difference between the thousands of 'sanctioned murders' in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the 'sanctioned murder' of Bin Laden is that in the case of Bin Lade, we didn't really have innocent casualties.

What's better, killing a specific bad guy, or killing a bunch of bad guys and a bunch of innocent people? I mean, neither sit real comfortable with me, but in terms of human life it seems kinda clear...

Also, if the police chased down some wanted murderer, busted into his house and he refused to surrender (and had weapons nearby), how many people would be outraged when the cops killed him?

Reading this, the question that comes to mind is "Is use of mass force never justified?" 

I'm not trying to pick an arguement on the subject.  I totally respect that position. Just curious if that is ultimately your stance. Perhaps I am misreading your conclusions.

The ongoing riff threads are AWESOME.

Mostly the threads I hate are the ones that are clones of the exact same thread with the exact same title and the exact same content found on every web forum around the planet.

I don't think any of the threads you named fall into that category though.

Speakibng of Riff, is anyone on the board playing Kingdom of Loathing?

Not currently. Me & Mr. Language used to play, and he first told me he loved me while we were playing and I had a potato.

Love at first spud?