I don't really know what to make of this
a comment posted at 23ae
DwarfWhisper32 - Just a note to fella Holy 23's a Discordian has cited her Discordian Religion, as Legal Political Necessity Justification for her criminal act! Criminal act of sending Holy Five, crypticaly discordian coded 'rude: racially insulting' SMS's to a South African politician, at minute intervals of 23 and 32 minutes (in reference to those wonderful Minutemen Souls 32 being a reference to USMC 'article 32 hearing'). Intro OMGASM Political activism in service to the Politics of Disclosure (http://crimeninuria.blogspot.com/2009/08/exopolitics-corr-president-first-lady.html) - Litgasm Exopolitics, to President & First Lady Obama, with a liquids only hungerstrike starting 23 August, to 23 September...
8/21/2009 1:45:44 AM
link points to
http://crimeninuria.blogspot.com/2009/08/exopolitics-corr-president-first-lady.html
:?
Wow, that looks like some serious home brewed crazy. :lulz:
Followed the obviously tagged images (the 23apples of eris image for example) which lead me to through a delicious account to:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18598519/11-Aug-09-Legal-Argument-45-Miragestorum-Navajo-DwarfWhisper-32
And there's a whole bunch of our Catma and links to current wiki pages strewn through that.
Wow...
!
The owner of the blog is one "Andrea Murrhteyn". I hit the name into Google and found a LOT of blog comments under that name, including one on Naked Capitalism which led to this account
http://www.blogger.com/profile/13455575591213217060
Not only a very interesting selection of blogs being followed and written (including the one Cram linked to), but the name, "JMC Patriot Alert Task Force", when googled, leads to a comment here http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2009/04/revenge-of-waco-gene.html where "Andrea" identifies herself as Lara Johnstone.
Lara Johnstone, when put into Google, leads us to http://www.scribd.com/doc/8815299/Lara-Johnstone-Paralegal-Certificate-and-Diploma You'll notice both the JMC account name and black swan logo seen previously.
Lara Johnstone also seems to be known in UFO circles, at least if we believe this article http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews33.html
Assuming this is the same one, she appears to have gone missing for a while http://www.madeira-island.com/interactive/forums/read.php?4,14237,14519,quote=1
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Cellular/698.html This may explain the blog posts, to some degree
Ever get the feeling you've walked down (yet another) rabbit hole?
just further evidence that we are key players in an ARG we are unaware of
:asplode:
Quote from: Cramulus on August 23, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
just further evidence that we are key players in an ARG we are unaware of
From #discord
Quote15:01<Cain>I wondered if this wasn't some sort of ARG
15:02<Cain>the amount of time and disparate info involved in it
15:02<Lysergic>If it isn't
15:02<Lysergic>we should make it into one
:lulz:
I don't understand any of this at all. :?
Quote from: Telarus on August 22, 2009, 01:31:05 AM
Followed the obviously tagged images (the 23apples of eris image for example) which lead me to through a delicious account to:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18598519/11-Aug-09-Legal-Argument-45-Miragestorum-Navajo-DwarfWhisper-32
And there's a whole bunch of our Catma and links to current wiki pages strewn through that.
What the
fuck. Is that an actual legal argument?
Lara has signed up.
Hopefully she can answer any questions you have, when she logs on.
Hi All,
Thanks for the intro, Cain. Yes, La-La-Land Lara here. !!! ;-)
GA:
QuoteWhat the fuck. Is that an actual legal argument?.
Just like the legal 'justus' establishment, have their codebook, to decipher their legal code words, namely, stare decises, et al; or as I refer in my legal argument documentation:
QuoteAccording to Professor David Skover, Professor of Law at Seattle University; Lawyers application of the Law is a form of critical literacy Interpretation of Legal Code Words; specifically:
"All law is interpretation. A lawyer uses words, which are inherently imprecise, and when a law is applied to the fact of a new situation what lawyers do is interpret the code words to deem them appropriately or inappropriately applied to the case at hand. To view the law means to understand interpretation. Law has more to do with critical literacy studies than it probably has to do with anything else."
So, if the legal system, wants me to go round searching their codebooks, to decode their abstract vague terms of 'reasonableness' et al; then surely what is good for the goose is good for the gander, and I can devise my own legal code book, and even better up on their boring one, can make mine funny and fun...huh?? So then to understand what I mean, they got to go and decode my codewords, for 'reasonable' etc???
So, in that context, that is my Fleur-de-Lis Codebook, for my cryptic 'Crimen Injuria' text messages, for which I am being charged with five criminal charges of 'insulting the politicians' dignity!
My 'codebook' was part 4/5, of the legal ARgument. Namely it is the addendum to the 1,2,3, and 5, of 5. The others include the Chronology of FActs; Propositions of Law with reference to Authorities, and Application of FActs to Propositions of Law, etc.
Hope that was helpful.
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RAtatosk,
QuoteWow, that looks like some serious home brewed crazy
You ain't seen noting yet! ;-)
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Cain,
Quotehttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/Cellular/698.html This may explain the blog posts, to some degree
Well said! The question being the 'degree'... ;-); what about:
Milgrams '6 degrees'
X
Number 6, in The Prisoner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner)?
X
the Six Clerks, an historical English legal office, which facilitated Chancery claims by impoverished litigants, litigants in forma pauperis, including children and those suffering from mental illness
=
666??? ;-)
Lara
all i know is that i really love my pancreas.
Quote from: DwarfWhisper32 on August 24, 2009, 06:49:38 PM
Quotehttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/Cellular/698.html This may explain the blog posts, to some degree
Well said! The question being the 'degree'... ;-); what about:
Milgrams '6 degrees'
X
Number 6, in The Prisoner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner)?
X
the Six Clerks, an historical English legal office, which facilitated Chancery claims by impoverished litigants, litigants in forma pauperis, including children and those suffering from mental illness
Does that make Thembela Yawa number two?
Who is number one?
All,
If any you guys want to write an affidavit, in this matter, simply confirming any of the following as Discordian catma, I'd be happy to submit into court record, with upcoming documentation upon appeal.
Basically, if you wanted to of course ------ consider in the context of, Mission IMpossible TV Series, where you are an IMF (Impossible Missions Force) Agent, and you are receiving your 'mission' orders; which you of course, have the option of refusing.. ie... ("Your mission, should you decide to accept it..."), before the five second tape destructs! ;-); ------ then you can write an affidavit to testify to your knowledge of the following... (I will email you a doc, with relevant header)....
You are a discordian, and you have been made aware that the following catma is stated in the following documents, in this legal matter; and you simply want to confirm, that this is catma, or you want to wahtever... disassocaite yourself is fine too!
So, if you are interested... here are the details of where catma was included in the legal argument, as well as any other references to cryptic stuff....
In Brief Statement of Defendant: Justification Defence: Political Necessity (http://www.scribd.com/doc/19056277/090708-Statement-of-Defendant-Justification-Defence-Political-Necessity)
Quote[**] Jusification Defence: Political Necessity
Freedom of Speech: Radical Hon(our)sty Cultural Religious Practice
Cultural Religious Practice: Radical Hon(our)sty; a combination of: (I) Radical Honesty, & (II) Bushido Discordianism
(I) Defendant is a member of the Radical Honesty Futilitarian Community: Radical Honesty, as taught by, and practiced by Dr. Brad Blanton, and described in his books: (i) Radical Honesty, (ii) Practicing Radical Honesty, (iii) Radical Parenting, (iv) The TruthTellers, (v) Honest to God,; and taught in his workshops: (i) The Course in Honesty and Forgiveness, (ii) The Course in Co-Creation, (iii) Thought Leaders. Defendant also incorporates Bushido Discordianism perspectives into her Radical Honesty Practice.
(II) Bushido (武士道), meaning "Way of the Warrior", is a Japanese code of conduct and a way of samurai life, loosely analogous to the concept of chivalry. It originates from the samurai moral code and stresses frugality, loyalty, martial arts, mastery, and honour until death. A typical Samurai calls a literary savant a book-smelling sot; for knowledge becomes really such only when it is assimilated in the mind of the learner and shows in his character. Knowledge is not pursued as an end in itself, but as a means to the attainment of wisdom: "To know and to act, are one and the same." – Wan Yang Ming. Nothing is more loathsome to a Bushi, than underhand dealings and crooked undertakings: "Perceiving what is right, and doing it not, argues lack of courage." There is even a sporting element in a courageous nature. Things serious to ordinary people, may be but play to the valiant. Combat is not solely a matter of brute force, it is, as well, an intellectual engagement.
(II) Discordianism is a modern religion founded by Malaclypse the Younger & Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst, known as the Paratheo-Anametoamystikhood of Eris Esoteric (POEE), a Non-prophet Irreligious Disorganisation; centered on the idea that chaos is all that there is. According to the Principia Discordia, POEE is "a tribe of philosophers, theologians, magicians, scientists, artists, clowns, and similar maniacs who are intrigued by Eris goddess of confusion and her doings." Furthermore it states that "POEE subscribes to the Law of Fives of Omar's sect" and "POEE also recognizes the Holy 23." Three of the Defendants favourite Dischordianism principles being: (a) "If organized religion is the opium of the masses, then disorganized religion is the marijuana of the lunatic fringe." (b) Counteracting the Curse of Greyface: "Mankind has [...] been suffering from a psychological and spiritual imbalance. Imbalance causes frustration, and frustration causes fear. And fear makes for a bad trip. Man has been on a bad trip for a long time now. The human race will being solving its [sic] problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously; (c) The Law of Fives states simply that: All things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5. The Law of Fives is never wrong. I find the Law of Fives to be more and more manifest the harder I look.
In document, Legal Argument: 2/5 Chronology of Material Facts (http://www.scribd.com/doc/18598474/11-Aug-09-Legal-Argument-25-Chronology-of-Facts)
Quote6.1.1
Additionally, the Cover Letter also contained various Crypto-Gandhian references, such as, in the title, P-al'Qaeda + TARBush = Catch 22. P-al'Qaeda being both a wordplay on Al'Qaeda, as well as the Arabic principle of Al'Qanoon, which means 'The Law'. Catch 22 refers to the novel by Joseph Heller, about Yossarian, a U.S. Army Air Forces B-25 bombardier, stationed on an island in Italy during the War, referring to Catch 22 as a critique of the insanity of bureaucratic operation and reasoning.
6.1.2
Furthermore, the letter was cryptically dated 23 May 2007, and cryptically referred to 18 July 2007, as a key date. In Discordianism, 23, is a sacred holy number of Eris, the God of Discord.
6.2
The enclosure, P-al'Qaeda: The Peace'Base: Thought Crime Brotherhood, also swims in Crypto-Gandhian coded words and images, such as "Duckspeak: Zhen-OwnSpeak-Code '; referring repeatedly to issues pertaining to George Orwell's novel, 1984, etc.
7.1.1
That the document was a Military document, repeatedly referring to Military issues, and containing long discussions with various Military and Secret Society Intelligence Agents. It also repeatedly made reference to Coded words and numbers – Crypto-Gandhianly linked to the subsequent coded words in the 'Crimen Injuria' SMS' -- among others:
• JAG Mil. Tribunal # 07-146: {12} [LLE-Condor-IMGAI] , (Page 2)
• 07/07 /2007 (Page 2)
• 19 April 2002 (Pages 03, 24)
• (g ) a 'f*&^g racist' (Ministry of Intelligence) (Page 4)
• Stars [Images]: 'AIDS is a Black Depopulation Virus' (Page 8)
• James 'Mythrill' (Page 8 & 16)
• Mission Impossible (Page 10)
• Agent Free Mason : Notice the Cryptological Clues (Page 12)
• "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation" – Prince Phillip (Page 14)
• Agent AWB#1: .... They don't even know much about Buddhism, so why they would bomb a Buddhist Temple makes no sense whatsoever, unless it was to send a cryptological message. (Page 15)
• 'Unless we change direction, we are likely to end up where we are headed' STARH 'Crypto-Gandhian' 'terrorists' from... (Page 24)
7.2
........ Accordingly, the clearly blatantly very cryptic Petition. In addition to general psycho-legal-philosophy principles, such as:
• Psychodrama ,
• Semper Fidelis ;
• Active Neutrality ;
• Audi Alteram Partem ;
• Hegelian Revolution in Consciousness Theory & Intelligence
• Information Warfare
There were sprinkled, with
• Wizard of Earthsea's Sparrowhawk
• Wisdom of No Escape ,
• Elder Regal Black Swan Test
A few relevant cryptic quotes:
• Which "problem" & problems become more complicated by the confusion between psychic and economic security?
• Who Am I & What is My Mission/Purpose?
• You cannot teach a person anything; you can only help him find it within himself -- Galileo
• Do you agree: "If Radical Environmentalists or Eugenicists were to invent a disease to bring human population back to ecological sanity, it would be something like AIDS. I see AIDS not as a problem, but a necessary solution"?
• "Unless we change direction, we are likely to end up where we are headed"
• "What is the Alpha-Numeric code for the Latin word "Miragestorum" and what Ancient Musical Scale Frequency and Tone Did it Numerologically, Mathematically and Metaphysically derive from?
• Generally, if various military, cultural, legal, agricultural, population growth, mono/theistic conquer-and-multiply vision/s subscribe to the subconscious cancerous meme – possibly lethal to advanced lateral and critical thinking capacity – of "ours is the one "right" way for people to live/whatever and everyone should live/whatever like us"; is there one "right" way to: make war, make peace, make love, grow food, ask forgiveness, forgive, learn, experience, educate, multi-task, confront your past or current fears, ask for help, offer to help, talk to "God", write a legal Bail Petition to a High Court Judge-President, or say "You Inspire the Hell out of Me, Thank You Sir!"?
• If an Ethical and Political Revolution in Consciousness is necessary to create and implement a Military Revolution in Affairs; how may new Ethical and Political Concepts of Identity and Personal Meaning influence the Population Dialectic of Technotronic or Libertarian based RMA's?
16.4
Finally, in a DATA DVD attachment, Alternative Perspectives to 'Crimen Injuria' Concepts, clearly labelled as cryptic, considering the Military Intelligence and Cryptological Agency Images on its cover, the Defendant provided the State with additional perspectives to the Crimen Injuria SMS concepts of cryptic concepts of:
Aids Depopulation:
• Context__CIA and Pentagon on Overpopulation & Resource Wars (2/2)
• Context__Crude Impact - Vista Clara JJ Wood
• Context__Exponential Growth Bomb - Growth Busters
• Context__Walking on Egg Shells Language - David James Manning
• Iatrogenic Origin of AIDS - Len Horowitz (3/3)
Exponential Function (Fx) – Usury:
• Context__CIA and Pentagon on Overpopulation & Resource Wars (2/2)
• Context__Crude Impact - Vista Clara JJ Wood
• Context__Exponential Growth Bomb - Growth Busters
• Exponential Fx Population & Energy – Dr. Al Bartlett (8/8)
Kaffir Moron Imbecile:
• Context__CIA and Pentagon on Overpopulation & Resource Wars (2/2)
• Context__Crude Impact - Vista Clara JJ Wood
• Context__Exponential Growth Bomb - Growth Busters
• Politically Correct Language - George Carlin
• PRH Beyond Good and Evil
• PRH Brad Blanton 4 NWO President
• PRH Brad Blanton for Congress
• PRH Interpretations of Language - Brad Blanton
• PRH Radical Honesty III/III
• Walking on Egg Shells Language - David James Manning
• What is Peak Oil - End of Suburbia
Rape and Torture:
• Context__Politically Correct Language - George Carlin
• Context__PRH Interpretations of Language - Brad Blanton
• Context__Walking on Egg Shells Language - David James Manning
• Context__What is Peak Oil - End of Suburbia
• HAARP Psychotronics – Dr. Nick Begich
• Obedience to Authority - Stanley Milgram
• Obedience to Authority – Sundance
• Quiet Rage Stanford Prison Experiment – Stanford University
And in, Legal ARgument: 4/5: Miragestorum Navajo DwarfWhisper32 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/18598519/11-Aug-09-Legal-Argument-45-Miragestorum-Navajo-DwarfWhisper-32)
QuoteP: Principia Philosophy Principles: If you are not hot for philosophy, best just to skip it. | The Aneristic Principle is that of apparent order; the Eristic Principle is that of apparent disorder. Both order and disorder are man made concepts and are artificial divisions of pure chaos, which is a level deeper than is the level of distinction making. | With our concept making apparatus called "mind" we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us. | The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled "reality" and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see "reality" differently. | It is only the ideas-about-reality which differ. Real (capital-T) True reality is a level deeper than is the level of concept. | We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The order is in the grid. That is the Aneristic Principle. | Western philosophy is traditionally concerned with contrasting one grid with another grid, and amending grids in hopes of finding a perfect one that will account for all reality and will, hence, (say unenlightened westerners) be True. This is illusory; it is what we Erisians call the Aneristic Illusion. Some grids can be more useful than others, some more beautiful than others, some more pleasant than others, etc., but none can be more True than any other. | Disorder is simply unrelated information viewed through some particular grid. But, like "relation", no-relation is a concept. The artificial concept of no-relation is the Eristic Principle. | The point is that (little-t) truth is a matter of definition relative to the grid one is using at the moment, and that (capital-T) Truth, metaphysical reality, is irrelevant to grids entirely. Pick a grid, and through it some chaos appears ordered and some appears disordered. Pick another grid, and the same chaos will appear differently ordered and disordered.
ZHEN: refers to Japanese Buddhism, i.e. Zen Buddhism. Discordianism is known as 'Zen for Round Eyes'. Zen for Round Eyes is based on similarities with absurdist interpretations of the Rinzai school (Rinzai is one of three Japanese Zen sects. Discordianism recognizes chaos, discord, and dissent as valid and desirable qualities, in contrast with most religions, which idealize harmony and order. The very idea of a Discordian organization is something of a paradox. The sect of Discordianism founded by Malaclypse the Younger and Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst is known as the Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric (POEE), a Non-prophet Irreligious Disorganisation. POEE is "a tribe of philosphers, theologians, magicians, scientists, artists, clowns, and similar maniacs who are intrigued by Eris goddess of confusion and her doings." Furthermore it states that "POEE subscribes to the Law of Fives of Omar's sect" and "POEE also recognizes the Holy 23."
Operation Mindfuck (OM) is an important practice of the Discordian religion: Operation Mindfuck is epitomized by a protagonist named Markoff Chaney, an anti-social dwarf who engages in subtle practical joking, in a deliberate attempt to cause Discord, as a protest against his mistreatment by society. One such joke involves the forging of signs that are signed by "The Mgt." (leading people to believe they're from "The Management" instead of "the Midget") that contain absurdities, and placing the signs in stores and other establishments. OM is most often manifested as a decentralized campaign of civil disobedience, activism, art movements, especially performant art and guerilla art, culture jamming, graffiti and other vandalism, pratical jokes, hoaxes, reality hacking, chaos magic, words of power, trolling and anything else that is believed to bring about social change through disrupting paradigms and thus forcing the victim to question the parameters of one's reality tunnel. There is a disagreement among Discordians as to whether or not, through OM, they should seek to improve society, topple it or claim that the practice is in fact only for entertainment. Because much of Operation Mindfuck itself involves hyperbole and exaggeration in regard to discussing the Discordian Society, it is difficult to determine the actual scale of the campaign, be it large or practically non-existent.
HOLY 23: 23 in South Africa: refers to the 23 conscientious objectors who publicly refused to do military service in the Apartheid army in 1987 | 23 in Code: the codewords in the perfect (non-extended) binary Golay code are the size of 23 | 23 in Paradox: According to the birthday paradox, in a group of 23 (or more) randomly chosen people, the probability is more than 50% that some pair of them will have the same birthday
32 USMCJ: 32 is considered the occult opposite of 23 | Power of 32: The fifth power of two, 32 is also a Leyland number since 24 + 42 = 32 | 32, Astronomy & 'Kaffirs': The Saros number of the lunar eclipse series began on June 11 , 1691 | 32 and Military Justice: Article 32 of the United States Military Code of Justice concerns pre-trial investigations. Such a hearing is often called an "article 32 hearing". The purpose of an 'article 32 hearing' is to determine whether there is enough evidence to merit a general trial; so as to avoid wasting the court's time, with trials, for which the Prosecutor's Office clearly lacks sufficient evidence to prove. An Article 32 Hearing is required to investigate all documentary or real evidence, available against and in favour of the accused.
LAW OF FIVES: The Law of Fives is one of the oldest Erisian Mysterees. It was first revealed to Good Lord Omar and is one of the great contributions to come from The Hidden Temple of the Happy Jesus. The Law of Fives states simply that: ALL THINGS HAPPEN IN FIVES, OR ARE DIVISIBLE BY OR ARE MULTIPLES OF FIVE, OR ARE SOMEHOW DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY APPROPRIATE TO 5. The Law of Fives is never wrong.
Law of Fives Proofs: See: http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Law_of_Fives
F*&^G: f*&^g = 2 letters + 3 symbols = 23 = 2 + 3 = 5 [23 & 5 are holy numbers, representing Eris as the God of Discord in Dischordianism; additionally five represents the Law of Fives: All things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5. The Law of Fives is never wrong; as well as Pentabarf Doctrine #5: A Discordian is Prohibited from Believing What he reads.]
Anyway, if you want to put something together, send me an email, and I can send you the title, of plaintiffs, etc... so you can put something together...
Lara
I don't get it.
It's like, "What if Voltaire was a lawyer?"
Quote from: LMNO on August 25, 2009, 05:35:12 PM
It's like, "What if Voltaire was a lawyer?"
What if I just knock shit over, and don't bother with the paperwork?
I believe that's called "The Gordian Knot Solution."
Quote from: LMNO on August 25, 2009, 05:38:10 PM
I believe that's called "The Gordian Knot Solution."
Oh, that will do nicely.
Just so you guys are aware, the affidavit plaintiff/defendant title, etc.... looks like this:
Quote
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IN THE HIGH COURT OF THE WESTERN CAPE
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Mag.Crt: 14/1198/08 [17/1384/07]
CT.CAS: 1340/7/07 [Grg: 572/02]
State:
Hon. Patricia de Lille, MP, ID Primary Plaintiff / Respondent
Mr. Thabo Mbeki, Former President Secondary Plaintiff / Respondent
Mr. Bulelani Ngcuka, Former NPA Secondary Plaintiff / Respondent
Mr. J.S. Selebi, Former SAPS Secondary Plaintiff / Respondent
Mr. BM Skosana, Former Min. Corrections Secondary Plaintiff / Respondent
Mr. Nelson Mandela, Former President Secondary Plaintiff / Respondent
v.
Lara Johnstone Defendant / Applicant
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Affidavit of ......... [Name]......., evidencing [the following as Discordian Catma: Holy 23, Rule of Fives, Operation Mindfuck.....]; in terms of Criminal Procedure Act 51, of 1977: § 213: Proof of Written Statement by Consent; & § 171 & 172: Evidence on Commission
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Evidence on Commission means that if the State disputes your evidence, as stated in your Affidavit, then since you live outside South Africa, I can request the STate to approve a 'Commission' (a Magistrate), who then goes to wherever you are, with a list of questions, for you to answer under oath, to testify to your 'expert witness testimony', to the questions from the STate and Defendant.
I mean, can you imagine the High Court Judges face!!! ;-) :kingmeh:
Somehow I don't think the State will dispute that your statement of 'catma' is not catma; do you?
Priceless!
Lara
PS:
Two other Affidavits currently being worked on/editted/debated.... are:
1. evidencing (i) the legal, psychological and socio-political relevance of Dr. Stanley Milgram's studies on Obedience; & (ii) their relevance to the application of the common law 'reasonableness test' in cases of 'civil disobedience', and the Nuremberg Principles
2. evidencing the Origin of AIDS sourcing from Hepatitus B Vaccine experiments conducted by Agents and Agencies of the Federal Government of the United States of America and the Merck Pharmaceutical Company
Thanks for including my personal email in a circular you sent to scotland yard and the media DwarfWhisper32.
I fucking love getting background checked.
What the shit? :?
Quote from: Cainad on July 30, 2011, 06:23:40 PM
What the shit? :?
That was my reaction too. I was included in an MI6GASM email nominating that moron who shot all those kids in norway for discordian st hood.
It was sent to Scotland yard and the Guardians tips and info email box.
What the....
Quote from: Faust on July 30, 2011, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 30, 2011, 06:23:40 PM
What the shit? :?
That was my reaction too. I was included in an MI6GASM email nominating that moron who shot all those kids in norway for discordian st hood.
It was sent to Scotland yard and the Guardians tips and info email box.
The FUCK.
Someone have it out for you or something?
Also, why would anyone want to nominate him for Discordian sainthood? Aside from the fact that he's obviously the complete opposite of a Discordian, he's a fucking murderer.
Quote from: Cainad on July 30, 2011, 06:38:50 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 30, 2011, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: Cainad on July 30, 2011, 06:23:40 PM
What the shit? :?
That was my reaction too. I was included in an MI6GASM email nominating that moron who shot all those kids in norway for discordian st hood.
It was sent to Scotland yard and the Guardians tips and info email box.
The FUCK.
Someone have it out for you or something?
No, I think this was out of stupidity.
Fortunately, I can verify that unless you include information that wasn't in the public domain, the UK intelligence agencies tip-lines will ignore you.
Because they get emailed by crazies like DwarfWhisperer32 every day.
Even solid information based on publically available material isn't good enough. They probably spent half an hour on Google before putting DW32 onto the "crazy" filter and ignoring them for forever.
Still a dick move, regardless.
Thanks Cain. That's reassuring.
WTF
How did you find out he did that?
What the shit? OK, blacklisting _that_ nickname.
Wow, this one's a nut:
http://fleur-de-lis.co.nr/
http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com
Ok, so this isn't the first time 'she' has attempted to use Discordia as a way to attach herself to court proceedings.
From 2007, in the middle of a long "affidavit" about getting arrested in 2000 @ the whitehouse:
http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/p/honesty-in-politics.html
QuoteC. Were her alleged criminal acts, a result of her Dischordian cultural religious practice:
I. Was her act an Operation Mindfuck: Golden Apple Seed Mission (OMGASM): Meme Hack?
II. Did her Operation Mindfuck – an act of deliberate hyperbole and exaggeration -- manifest as a decentralized campaign of civil disobedience, activism, culture hacking, reality hacking or anything else that is believed to bring about social change through disrupting paradigms and thus forcing the victim to question the parameters of her reality tunnel?
III. If a meme is a contagious idea –- like for example, the word 'kaffir' -- that replicates like a virus, passed on from mind to mind; and memes function the same as genes and viruses do; propagating through communication networks and contact between people; did her meme hack take the existing meme 'kaffir'; and alter it, to express a point of view not intended or inherent in the original, or even opposite to the original; and thus show the unreasonable and arbitrary nature of the 'kaffir' meme?
Sorry you got caught up with this 'person'........ I dunno. The whole closely-knit collection of multiple blogs, with no comments, a faked Facebook profile.... this smells... OR I've been watching too much Burn Notice. :lol:
Quote from: Telarus on July 30, 2011, 10:18:52 PM
Sorry you got caught up with this 'person'........ I dunno. The whole closely-knit collection of multiple blogs, with no comments, a faked Facebook profile.... this smells... OR I've been watching too much Burn Notice. :lol:
... smells like blueberry yoghurt!
Holy FUCK. Who is this wingnut???
I am seriously fighting a Law-of-Fives moment here....
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/telarus/fnord/Lena-Lara-Jonstone.jpg)
:?
I guess I'll set a base line 23% probability, and see how she responds to my msg on WK's forum
"Which was basically, 'if you're the right person, you need to apologize to Faust.. if this just elicits confusion, consider it a Holy Moment'"
We'll see where that goes.
Quote from: Cainad on August 24, 2009, 01:12:57 AM
I don't understand any of this at all. :?
(http://chzderp.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/867c3dca-6607-4f58-a3c4-264d18a7cdab.jpg)
Why am I still reading up on this mutant?
Going derper was a horrible idea.
As for... whatever that legal defence is suppose to be...
Quote from: LaraU kaffir moron imbecile, don't say I didn't warn you, and you still did nothing about it.
Quote from: LaraBe my guest kaffir! Quote SAP George Case 572-02. U kaffir moron imbecile.
Quote from: LaraU stupid dumb kaffir. Don't u fucking dare say I didn't warn y, u goddam kaffir hypocrit!
Quote from: LaraAs usual u gutless 2faced hypocrite coloured kaffir imbecile, u r all talk & no action. SAP # 572/02
u rotting excuse 4 a brain!
Quote from: Source: W.A. Joubert, 1981; The Law of South Africa, VI, p251-254Use of the word has been actionable in South African courts since at least 1976 under the offense of crimen injuria: "the unlawful, intentional and serious violation of the dignity of another".
But good luck explaining to the court why it's all just memes.
Quote from: Telarus on July 30, 2011, 10:18:52 PM
Sorry you got caught up with this 'person'........ I dunno. The whole closely-knit collection of multiple blogs, with no comments, a faked Facebook profile.... this smells... OR I've been watching too much Burn Notice. :lol:
I really wanted to go with this one, but I'd hope that anyone trying to trick us into getting involved in whackjobbery might first get a better idea of what we're about before attempting it, rather than posing as someone who thinks Anders Breivik is a hero.
From WK's forum:
Quote from: Lena on July 31, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
*lol*
There are two things you haven't realised yet.
a. You have to *prove* me wrong in order to apologize
b. I allways have a 3rd option for myself.
And I still like ya.
Probability that Lena = DwarfWhisperer = Lara 'Zhivago' Jonstone bumped to 35%.
Wow...we're all fucked on here.
Hey, prepare yourself for anal cavity searches at the airport from now on if you post here.
Quote from: Telarus on July 31, 2011, 11:39:39 PM
From WK's forum:
Quote from: Lena on July 31, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
*lol*
There are two things you haven't realised yet.
a. You have to *prove* me wrong in order to apologize
b. I allways have a 3rd option for myself.
And I still like ya.
Probability that Lena = DwarfWhisperer = Lara 'Zhivago' Jonstone bumped to 35%.
I'd say closer to 98%.
Who can compare their IPs?
Also, what do you want to bet that the reason Lena was PMing me about beads was because she wanted to confirm it was me without providing me with her email address, which would give me her IP?
Quote from: Nigel on August 01, 2011, 12:27:26 AM
Quote from: Telarus on July 31, 2011, 11:39:39 PM
From WK's forum:
Quote from: Lena on July 31, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
*lol*
There are two things you haven't realised yet.
a. You have to *prove* me wrong in order to apologize
b. I allways have a 3rd option for myself.
And I still like ya.
Probability that Lena = DwarfWhisperer = Lara 'Zhivago' Jonstone bumped to 35%.
I'd say closer to 98%.
Who can compare their IPs?
Also, what do you want to bet that the reason Lena was PMing me about beads was because she wanted to confirm it was me without providing me with her email address, which would give me her IP?
THIS.
BUSTED.
CASE CLOSED.
For the record, I have said from the get go that Lena was a worthless waste of oxygen.... This does not surprise me in the least. I firmly believe that English is not only her first language, but that the whole thing from TCC to TSC is her front to get back at us evil Discordians.....
I can see Lena's IP
I will happily compare their IPs with Lena's, if someone on TSC gives me the information.
I should point out though that Lara was posting from a co.za ISP...not that this means much, given how many proxies are located in said country.
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2011, 03:37:37 PM
I will happily compare their IPs with Lena's, if someone on TSC gives me the information.
I should point out though that Lara was posting from a co.za ISP...not that this means much, given how many proxies are located in said country.
I'll PM it to you now.
Checked. Doesn't match any IP used on this forum.
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2011, 05:40:34 PM
Checked. Doesn't match any IP used on this forum.
Probability down to 25%. I'd keep those handy, tho.
Hmmmmmm.
Their writing style is quite similar.
I think I really shook her.
After the selection I quoted for you, she sent me a message demanding that I "share" (the results, I suppose).
In reply to her quote, I sent this pic, and a :whistling: emote : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2952264753_0a9b244d76_z.jpg
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2952264753_0a9b244d76_z.jpg)
Suddenly, her last post on the forum in relpy to some-one else (the PENIS thread?) was very verbose, attentive to linguistic detail, and totally not in previous character.
Oh, and this image (2nd one with our sigils in it) show up on the why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com account.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W60DQaavn3A/TjaLEk-61pI/AAAAAAAANmQ/LVsSmzF0LHU/s1600/Co-Conspirator_NoOneRulesNoOneObeys_338x482.png)
Not drawing any conclusions right away, but I'll keep collecting stuff. somebody better be able to call me on it if I Lo5-faceplant too hard...
http://disqus.com/DwarfWhisper32/
This account links the nick DwarfWhisper32 directly to the Andrea Muhrrteyn nick and to Lara 'Zhivago' Johnstone. The Andrea & LAra accounts on Facebook are made to seem different people, but there is a post where she forgot to switch account before commenting (replying to a Gunther, who's comments have been deleted).
She also uses the name Francis Marion Braidfute, as in the graphic.
I'm not finding it hard to believe she's Lena. I've baited her on WK's forum, to see if she quotes from something Lara quoted from on FB.
:lulz: :lulz: down the rabbit hole we go. Hey, remember when somebody asked what Chapel Perilous looked like? I think we're peaking in one of the stained glass windows with this one.....
Note, one of her tags is ""2083 Black Swan".
2083 obviously refers to Breivik's manifesto (which refers to how the Ottoman Empire was defeated at Vienna in 1683). We've seen her use the black swan logo before, and of course, we know what it stands for.
Lara's "interests" overlap with Breivik's in certain areas - mostly notably her interest in "demographic warfare". As Paes pointed out, she is fond of the use of "kaffir" which is, of course, a highly offensive ethnic slur against black South Africans.
Just saying.
Quote from: Nigel on August 01, 2011, 12:27:26 AM
Quote from: Telarus on July 31, 2011, 11:39:39 PM
From WK's forum:
Quote from: Lena on July 31, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
*lol*
There are two things you haven't realised yet.
a. You have to *prove* me wrong in order to apologize
b. I allways have a 3rd option for myself.
And I still like ya.
Probability that Lena = DwarfWhisperer = Lara 'Zhivago' Jonstone bumped to 35%.
I'd say closer to 98%.
Who can compare their IPs?
Also, what do you want to bet that the reason Lena was PMing me about beads was because she wanted to confirm it was me without providing me with her email address, which would give me her IP?
It was probing me in a very indirect way for information on the DoD.
Quote from: Telarus on August 02, 2011, 10:57:47 AM
I think I really shook her.
After the selection I quoted for you, she sent me a message demanding that I "share" (the results, I suppose).
In reply to her quote, I sent this pic, and a :whistling: emote : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2952264753_0a9b244d76_z.jpg
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2952264753_0a9b244d76_z.jpg)
Suddenly, her last post on the forum in relpy to some-one else (the PENIS thread?) was very verbose, attentive to linguistic detail, and totally not in previous character.
Oh, and this image (2nd one with our sigils in it) show up on the why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com account.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W60DQaavn3A/TjaLEk-61pI/AAAAAAAANmQ/LVsSmzF0LHU/s1600/Co-Conspirator_NoOneRulesNoOneObeys_338x482.png)
Not drawing any conclusions right away, but I'll keep collecting stuff. somebody better be able to call me on it if I Lo5-faceplant too hard...
No, I'm pretty sure from her reactions that you've nailed it.
So my baiting got buried in the The Discordian Menace thread... then I noticed the last post of her was in the DON'T GET DISCORDIANS?!?!?! thread:
Quote from: Lena
Quote from: alty
OK. Here's the deal. Ima level with you, let you in on our little secret.
It's all made up! We just make it up as we go along and other's agree with come of us or not.
Just like every other religion. The only difference is we know how ridiculous it is.
And the reason for being a part of it?
If this is a belief system that works for you, I do wonder how do you stand on politics or even yet for ethnicities.. Why would you bother to vote? Or defend your country if necessary?
I mean, if you are able to see the ridiculousness behind religions why stop there? What on Earth stops you from calling yourself a nihilist?
:fnord:
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/Smileys/default/fnord.gif)
Of COURSE we are a nihiliss, silly!
THIS JUST IN: Traffic Tranny! (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002135900855).
You love her.
I love her.
ALLLLLL muffuggas want to love her.