Hello everybody
I've been disappeared for some time cuz I couldn't access the forum. Now it's ok.
I came here to know what you think about me interviewing one of you. We (some Brazilian discordians) will publish it into 'Discordia Brasilis', the first, best and only Brazilian discordian magazine =D
This would be very interesting, because it's the first edition and we would like to make it great.
What do you think about it?
The forum underwent a little transplant procedure, glad to see you made it back.
This sounds like a great idea. A good opportunity to reach out to another Discordian community.
What form would this interview take? Are you looking for a more serious discordian, a silly one, or someone who isn't a discordian at all?
Or are you looking to interview a number of different people?
I mean, this sounds like a lot of fun!
Just out of curiousity, will this magazine be in print form, digital, or both? Just curious.
RWHN,
curious.
I think that sounds awesome. Tell us moar!
she died of natural causes, the money was just resting in my account, and no I don't regret my marriage to ruby wax.
Quote from: faust on September 16, 2007, 02:47:15 AM
she died of natural causes, the money was just resting in my account, and no I don't regret my marriage to ruby wax yet.
Fixed
I think we should do a group interview. Just pick 3 or 4 people with really different opinions, ask questions, then let the fights start.
sounds like a plan, Rev. Peterson Cekemp, if you would be so kind to post a list of questions in this thread here, we can all answer and bicker about it, you can post followup questions if you like and distill the thread and whatever to what you think looks like a proper interview.
I think that would be perfect.
Also, a link to an online version of your publication would be pretty cool. Worst comes to worst, send a file version of it to one of us, and I'm sure the POEE.co.uk website can host it for you (when it gets fixed).
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 16, 2007, 02:10:00 AM
This sounds like a great idea. A good opportunity to reach out to another Discordian community.
That's just what we want. We want to know how the things are going out there, how is discordia in world ;)
Quote from: Payne on September 16, 2007, 02:10:27 AM
What form would this interview take? Are you looking for a more serious discordian, a silly one, or someone who isn't a discordian at all?
Or are you looking to interview a number of different people?
I mean, this sounds like a lot of fun!
Really, I don't know. I think getting one of all kinds would be great! An interview with the "internacional community", you know? It'd be awesome.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 16, 2007, 02:20:03 AM
Just out of curiousity, will this magazine be in print form, digital, or both? Just curious.
Since we'd have to have a lot of money to print it in large scale (and we don't have it now), we are first going to publish it in digital form. And the texts published there are not new at all, 'Discordia Brasilis' was meant to be a book a time ago, and then it turned to a magazine project, but we got the book texts to work on.
But yeah, we're thinking of ways to publish it in print form =D
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2007, 01:52:42 PM
Just pick 3 or 4 people with really different opinions, ask questions, then let the fights start.
I like that
Quote from: triple zero on September 16, 2007, 02:13:07 PM
to post a list of questions in this thread here, we can all answer and bicker about it, you can post followup questions if you like and distill the thread and whatever to what you think looks like a proper interview.
Oh yeah, since we have a lot of interesting different ideas here, I think this is veeeery good =)
Quote from: Cain on September 16, 2007, 02:16:14 PM
Also, a link to an online version of your publication would be pretty cool. Worst comes to worst, send a file version of it to one of us, and I'm sure the POEE.co.uk website can host it for you (when it gets fixed).
I'm still working on it, and I think there are only three ou four texts to put there... And, of course, the interview. Then I do the pdf file and send a copy.
But... It'll be in portuguese. =/
We're planning to launch the project officially on aftermath 5 (malaclypse day)
Allright, let's see... I don't know who I'm going to interview, so I'll just put the first question here. After I choose some parts to create a summary of the whole thing.
Ok, there it goes... I'm not gonna start with controversy, let's get it easy.
When did you become a discordian? Why? How?
ok i'll answer one
I "became" a discordian, or at least decided I might just as well label myself as one, after hanging around on these forums for about a year or so.
It all happened because one fine summer in Prague I read the Illuminatus! Trilogy, and I was quite baffled to find that it connected all sorts of "weird" philosophy I had been chasing after all by myself via the Internet and books, movies and such, that I never considered were even part of one theme. I had stumbled across the Principia Discordia, Subgenius, the Self-liberators Digest, weird mystical and occult stuff, satanism, zen, political paradoxes, anarchy, chaos, absurdism, new age, entheogenic drug-induced revelations a la Leary and Watts, deoxy.org, etcetera etcetera.
Some of them I only touched upon briefly, but all the time I had simply been following my own path, reading about stuff that picked my interest. And then the Illuminatus! Trilogy tied nearly all of these subjects together into one crazy story. It blew my mind. After some time, I wondered if I was the only one who had experienced that, and as the core theme everything revolved around seemed to be "discordia", I queried a search-engine for "discordian forum", ended up here, and the rest is my history..
When? Why? How?
When/How: Summer of 2004 was when I first became aware of Discordianism. The PD book kept showing up on my Amazon recommended list, so in the end I said "Ok, I'll read this stupid book if you stop recommending it to me!" I read parts of the version hosted on the PD.com site and then purchased a hardcopy. Having read it from cover to cover, I came back to this site.
Why: I don't really self-identify as a 'Discordian'. Discordianism was something that I happened upon and found appealing, particularly the way in which it should puncture the inflated egos & hypocrisy found in religions/occult groups etc. The notion of 'creative disorder' was attractive, especially at the time when I first read the book. The manager I had in my old job was so incredibly narrow-minded, rule bound and overbearing, Discordian ideas suited my needs perfectly. I guess you could say it was a marriage of convenience.
It was Spring of 2005.
My friend and co-worker Chuck Full-O-Pope brought in this black book to work one day. The week before he had brought in Hitchhiker and was reading quotes during downtime. Anyhoo, yeah it was the Steve Jackson Games version of the PD. One of the first things he did was give me the Starbuck's Pebble Test. He had put these 5 dots on a piece of paper asked me to connect them and tell him what I saw. I saw a pentagon AND a star. I was intrigued. He lent me the book during a long trip to upstate NY. I read it. Some of it was silly, some of it was seriously silly, it was great. And even before I read that infamous line, I knew it was more than a ha ha.
Honestly, the book was someting of a reaffirmation of things I had already thought and felt. I just didn't realize there was an actual irreligion/philosophy devoted to it. I was in a similar situation as Mang, job-wise. I'd read the book during breaks. Jot down ideas, some of which ended up in BIP. I don't treat it as a religion, but I do think the philosophies like "Think for yourself, Shmuck", "creative disorder", etc., are not only pertinent to current society, but very important.
Cause those armed with themselves have the best chance at making it through this gauntlet we are all in.
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
I first found Discordianism through a Discordian Double Agent also known as the Girl that I had just begun to date in 2001 (right after 9/11 in fact). The Principia was simply left laying about and I picked it up one day, read it from cover to cover and converted. I had been conservative Christian for most of my life and found it unappealing once I awoke to the silliness of the beliefs. I tried Paganism and found their stuff equally silly and lame. I decided to try out Atheism and accepted (for the first time) the concept of Evolution... but the more I studied, the more it appeared that people just kept filling in "unknown" with a buzzword in each system.
So I suppose I was ripe for a system that simply accepted how little we know or can know. Then my girlfriends father introduced me to RAW's writings and the rest is history.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
what do you mean?
we don't really have a "big example" or leader/elder everybody looks up to, we feel that would be kind of contrary to the idea of discordianism.
Quote from: triple zero on September 16, 2007, 08:09:07 PM
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
what do you mean?
we don't really have a "big example" or leader/elder everybody looks up to, we feel that would be kind of contrary to the idea of discordianism.
Indeed! There are people alive who have been actively Discordian for 30+ years... yet they don't think they are our leaders or sages. Even RAW used to give a "Zen Hotfoot" to anyone that tried to look up to him as some great and wise man.
Discord exists in the now, the moment, the penultimate unit of plank time and thus each of us are all and always newbies in some sense. Every experience changes our existence, every choice redefines who we are and thus The Discordian that has read this post (or any post) is New Born by the end.
May you have the Knowledge of a Sage and the Wisdom of a Child - PD
I wasn't looking for a leader =)
just curiosity ;)
Been calling myself a Discordian for about 4 years now. I found a really bad HTML copy of the Principia on the Temple of the Screaming Electron site while researching horrible things to do with epoxy resin and relatively large amounts of sodium. I liked not believing what I read, did some more thinking and reading later on when I got the chance, and joined this place in the Fall of 2004.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
That's a tough one to answer. I tend to think that those who end up being "Discordian" kind of always were. It seems like the sort of thing where you are probably pre-disposed to thinking a sort of way, and so when you pick up the book it's kind of like, "oh so that's what this is called."
Of course then you have the whole conundrum of what is Discordianism? One's person Discordianism is going to look different from another's. Indeed, we all here are pretty different from each other. We all have different levels of expertise in different areas. It really is a melting pot of Discordians. I think the one common thread is that this group of Discordians tends to shy away from the over-used cliche's. We want to move beyond the PD and the Discordianism of the 60s.
Yeah, so I don't know if I answered that question or just made it more muddled.
I'll offer an opposing viewpoint...
Fuck you!
when: apparently it was at least 5 years ago. i was still a "Satanist" at the time, because my parents were Baptists. Anyway, if you have ever been acquainted with Satanism, especially web-based satanism, it's like a big pagan community where nobody hides the fact that they're a dick. Also, drama. Anyway, it all got a little stale and I found a Discordian channel on IRC somewhere, which was full of the LOL23 flavor Discordians. It was shallow, but it was fun. And it isn't like any other religion is actually useful when it gets "deep." So I hung out until the guy overdosed on DXM and almost killed himself, then I left.
Eventually I completely dropped the Satanism thing (except when my parents come to visit I still make sure the Satanic Bible and other assorted "Evil" books are easy to spot on the bookshelf), and about 18 months (?) ago I found this joint, which was cool so I stayed.
This is all horseshit. The only reason I'm a Discordian is because TGRR's mind-control ray says I have to be.
I looked into Satanism, briefly. But it was pretty obvious a lot of it is purely a money making venture, and I really didn't like the idea of being connected, however tangentially, with groups like the Order of Nine Angels (whose name was making the rounds at that time). PLus, if I actually had any money, the CotSG was going to get it before the CoS or ToS.
It's a huge rip-off if you ask me.
200 dollars to worship myself?
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2007, 02:10:17 PM
I looked into Satanism, briefly. But it was pretty obvious a lot of it is purely a money making venture, and I really didn't like the idea of being connected, however tangentially, with groups like the Order of Nine Angels (whose name was making the rounds at that time). PLus, if I actually had any money, the CotSG was going to get it before the CoS or ToS.
I never
paid anyone for the privelege, but I did find one outfit that gave me a certificate saying I was a bona-fide Satanic Priest. By the way, I think I still have that in a box somewhere and it doesn't have an expiration date. So technically I can still totally screw with you for talking shit about the order of nine angels.
cause human sacrifice kicks ass, and eris agrees.
Quote from: vexati0n on September 17, 2007, 02:21:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2007, 02:10:17 PM
I looked into Satanism, briefly. But it was pretty obvious a lot of it is purely a money making venture, and I really didn't like the idea of being connected, however tangentially, with groups like the Order of Nine Angels (whose name was making the rounds at that time). PLus, if I actually had any money, the CotSG was going to get it before the CoS or ToS.
I never paid anyone for the privelege, but I did find one outfit that gave me a certificate saying I was a bona-fide Satanic Priest. By the way, I think I still have that in a box somewhere and it doesn't have an expiration date. So technically I can still totally screw with you for talking shit about the order of nine angels.
cause human sacrifice kicks ass, and eris agrees.
TBH, I'm more worried about what the ONA would do to me, should they ever give a shit about my thoughts on them. They're pretty well hooked up with C18, last I heard.
When: Fall of 1994. I had just run across a copy of the Schroedinger's Cat trilogy (which I still think is the best example of how to actually describe the parallel-universe theory without long, complicated mathematics) the year before, and then followed that with Illuminatus! and in December of 1994 I managed to get my hands on a copy of the PD, and something just clicked. Reading the weirdness, comedy and tragedy, and absurdity in those pages seemed to tie together a lot of things I'd been figuring out on my own for the past half-dozen years at that point.
Over the years since I stumbled on the PD, I've kept examining things, kept questioning everything I've run across no matter what or where it is, and kept my eyes open. Since I was raised Unitarian Universalist, I never really had a concrete religious framework imprinted at childhood - just a "treat others with respect and kindness while you figure shit out on your own" style of philosophy/theology. When I ran across the PD, I just absorbed it into the larger theological/philosophical framework I already had accumulated. To this day, I'm still adding and subtracting things as they seem to fit - or no longer feel like they apply.
It's all just random shit I've pulled together, a lot of which I've taken from the PD, and a lot of which I've taken from a lot of other places. Since Discordianism is just as much what you yourself make of it (just as Unitarian Universalism is, really) I tend to call myself Discordian when attempting to explain things to people.
Here in Brazil I know a lot of discordians in Rio and I read a lot about a discordian movement in Curitiba. Unfortunatelly, I live in Florianopolis, at south.
Thing is: Do you have a notion about how big is discordianism in US/UK/outer space?
and the followup question: what are you trying to do now and what did you do to spread discordianism around? Have you ever did something biiig or nearly big, or just ninja tactics, breaking prisons one by one?
I read Schrodinger's Cat about ten years ago, then about four years ago a god friend bought me the Illuminatus Trilogy for my birthday - afterwhich, I went batshit crazy.
I spent about half a year as one of "those discordians", then smartened up . . . went through the bitter period, somehow escaped that, then felt sort of holy for a while, but afterward noticed I had BO like everyone else. I started a small respectable cult, then tricked all the followers into going to Turkey with me, and left them there. I believe they are still digging for a temple of Eris there . . . I should get someone to check up on them . . . also, I spend time in downtown Toronto as both a Zen Buddhist, and a Scientologist. I wear an ascot like L Ron Hubbard, and people admire me.
we are all known and noted for something.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 17, 2007, 10:23:06 PM
Here in Brazil I know a lot of discordians in Rio and I read a lot about a discordian movement in Curitiba. Unfortunatelly, I live in Florianopolis, at south.
Actually that isn't unfortunate at all. It's fun to
be a Discordian, but it's you don't actually want to
meet one.
QuoteThing is: Do you have a notion about how big is discordianism in US/UK/outer space?
and the followup question: what are you trying to do now and what did you do to spread discordianism around? Have you ever did something biiig or nearly big, or just ninja tactics, breaking prisons one by one?
I have no idea how many Discordians there are, but something tells me there are more Southern Baptists.
As for spreading Discordia, I think that's a bad idea. Spreading
discord (without the -ia) is a lot smarter.
I had never before heard of Discordianism, but I was doing Eris' work regardless. In the early 90s I had founded The Church of Gumby. The purpose of the CoG being nothing more then to give myself and friends silly titles and have a common moniker when we posted weird stuff to local BBS systems.
Then one day while shopping in my local neighborhood game store the cute redheaded girl working the cash register*, after checking out the items I was purchasing, suggested a book just published by Steve Jackson games. Yep it was the black covered Principia. I added it to the pile of books that had already been rung up and it was the first thing I read when I got home. Over the span of two or three days I read the Principia from cover to cover and I'll be damned if it didn't speak to me at all. What a pointless stupid book, was mostly my general reaction. It languished on the floor of my bedroom, where many of my books found a home for years at a time. Eventually one day desperately needing something to read prior to going into the toilet for an extended poop break I grabbed the Principia again. I sat there on the crapper randomly flipping through the book reading bits of this and bits of that, never reading two consecutive pages in order. Then all of a sudden it all made sense. I then converted the CoG to a Discordian institution and used my new wily knowledge of the universe to meet hot women.
I eventually let the CoG wane when it was no longer that funny to me, but I did go out on a high note, getting a cease and desist order from the holders of the copyright to the character Gumby. The first certified letter I ever sent was my response to their lawyer as to why I would not turn over the ChurchOfGumby.com(not there any more) domain to them.
I eventually moved onto Discordian Piracy, I have yet to figure out exactly what that means, other then occasionally wrestling with hot ninja chicks, but I have an emblem that I turned into patches. If I ever have a flag pole I'll make a flag too.
I still sometimes use Discordianism to meet hot women.
*I had never seen her working at the store prior to this encounter and never saw her there again after purchasing my copy of the SJ Principia, make of that what you will.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 17, 2007, 10:23:06 PM
Thing is: Do you have a notion about how big is discordianism in US/UK/outer space?
no.
i tried looking for them, traditionally, discordians seem to be quite active on the internet. but as for Dutch discordianism, all I found were one or two remnants of some old, inactive, and "23 pineal fnord" style cabals.
someone pointed me to an active (at least, i think so) dutch chaos-magick, as i might be able to find more "chaotes" there, but i didn't go see and check. possibly i should, some day.
i know one french discordian (maybe ex-discordian) with a mixed "group", there's some in germany, austria, the UK, belgium, australia.
we had some visitors here from portugal, russia, switzerland .. i'm 99.9% sure there are discordians active in the scandinavian countries, although i never spoken to any.
conclusion, discordians are spread far and wide geographically. but as for their numbers, i think they're small.
Quoteand the followup question: what are you trying to do now and what did you do to spread discordianism around? Have you ever did something biiig or nearly big, or just ninja tactics, breaking prisons one by one?
as far as i've seen (meaning there's more, because people should know to Keep Their Fucking Mouths Shut):
- spreading the message to various general religious / spiritual / philosophy oriented messageboards
- producing loads of flyers, texts and such, specifically meant for printing out and redistributing
- minor acts of graffiti/culture jamming stuff
- HIMEOBS
...
- there are probably a few more that i forgot to mention here
as far as big .. the tale of the history and wars around this messageboard is pretty big, but i think you're looking for discordia -> outside world stuff. .. i dunno, i'm not aware of any that comes to mind right away, but it would probably again fall under the KYFMS-advice. (real good advice, that)
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 17, 2007, 10:23:06 PM
Thing is: Do you have a notion about how big is discordianism in US/UK/outer space?
and the followup question: what are you trying to do now and what did you do to spread discordianism around? Have you ever did something biiig or nearly big, or just ninja tactics, breaking prisons one by one?
I really don't have a clue as to how big Discordianism is in the U.S. I don't even have a really good grasp of how big it was when the books originally were published. You don't really ever hear about Discordianism in the media like you do a relgion like Scientology. However, I tend to think that some of the core ideals and philosophies do resonate with lots of people, they just don't see or recognize them as Discordian.
As far as spreading it, I guess the most immediate thing that comes to mind is the Black Iron Prison pamphlets. Being one of the authors and distributing it to people I know and people I don't know. I've also done a couple of the POEE casts that are online in a couple of different places. But nothing really BIG I suppose.
Chronologically, I guess:
In 1985, I decided I wanted to find the "rune of confusion".
In 1990, I was given Illuminatus!
in 1991, I found the Principia, and realized it didn't just exist in Illuminatus!.
Been a card-carrier ever since.
Does this mean I've been a personal failure the longest?
i found the book in a bathroom stall
i read it
then i flushed it
the end
Discordianism: Where you prove your loyalty by making a big stink over how disloyal you are.
Quote from: vexati0n on September 18, 2007, 08:54:33 PM
Discordianism: Where you prove your loyalty by making a big stink over how disloyal you are.
:lulz:
well let me counter that by describing myself as what one might consider a typical Discordian.
*waits for the chuckling to stop*
ho ho ho
I ended up walking out of my own episcopalian confirmation because the whole show smelled bad to me. These people had good intentions, but they pursued their goals too straight faced. I had a lot of Important Questions that the church didn't have satisfactory answers for. Among them
-if we can never really know Gods will, how do we know he wants us to do good?
-If esoteric tools like occult practices actually get results, why is it evil to use them?
-if God loves all his creations, why did he nuke them all with the Great Flood?
-Why do people who have never even heard of Jesus go to hell for not believing in him?
etc
But my slide into atheism left me with a lot of neat answers (where do you go when you die? nowhere), but a distinct lack of purpose and passion.
I reckon it was somewhere around 1996. The internet was young. Tons of fascinating information was out there and it was getting bigger every day. I was really interested in Chaos Theory, Fractals, and Chaos Magic. I had been meticulously numerically charting and graphing my moods in an attempt to find some formula for how I worked. During a search for essays on hyperspace and the 4th dimension, I discovered the Principia in its classic rough HTML format. Despite parental discouragement, I printed the whole thing out and carried it around with me, showing it to people, doodling on it, getting more and more attached the more I read it.
When my dad (who was very uptight about my curiosity in the occult) found out that messy stack of paper I'd been carrying around was
religious in nature, he gave me a long, stern lecture about cults and why to be careful of them. I tried to explain Discordia but he just ignored me. I tried to turkey-curse him but it just pissed him off. I eventually shut my mouth and let him be wrong, but also secretly hoping that Discordia
was a big evil brainwashing cult. So in part, I became a Discordian as some sort of teen rebellion against my dad.
In 1998 I went book shopping and randomly picked Illuminatus off the shelf. When it started involving Discordia my mind was blown clear out of my skull. I devoured that book, mostly during a vacation to England where a series of synchronicities convinced me that the Illuminati were actually out to get me
right now.The Fairfield Cabal of the Disoriented Chicken was formed to pass out pope cards. (you substitute a different word before chicken every time you say it) To this date, people still approach me and say "Dude I've still got the pope card you gave me back in the 90s!". A friend of mine's Dad met the catholic pope and ALMOST gave him one. Damn!~
My personal approach to Discordia has gone through three or four phases, including all combinations of joke, religion, performance art, and excuses to perform crazy rituals to change my universe. Whatever that means.
Over the years, I've "converted" a lot of my agnostic, atheist, or Christian friends, but I think they were Discordians at heart to begin with. I do believe that to some extent, like attracts like, and crazy people tend to find their kin. To that end I've met dozens of Discordians who I didn't originally welcome into the fold.
Then in 2006 I moved into Apartment 5E with two other Discordians. The OBNOXIOUS JERK CABAL was formed from five of us who enjoyed being ...really loud and obnoxious. That was a year of absolute mayhem and nonsense which included me working full time for a LARP (which was a life dream of mine when I was younger but didn't end up being what I'd hoped), having some really intense personal religious experiences, and reading as much Wilson as I could get my hands on. I thought I had Discordia pretty much figured out.
Then in 2007 I found this message board and you asshats turned me on my head. The Black Iron Prison metaphor made me reconsider a lot of stuff I had taken for granted and reevaluate my attitudes towards a lot of things. Over the coarse of this year I've been slowly reassembling what I consider my religion.
hmmm this post is getting a bit tl;dr so I'll truncate it here. CHAO
Well, as an extremely atypical Discordian (considering I could very well be the only non 23FNORDPINEAL Discordian below 16), I'll give my story.
Age 10 - Gave up on Christianity (wasn't hard with my parents being very liberal about religion). Figured out it made no sense, so I dropped it.
Age 11 - Read a fair bit of Plato. Was a self important atheist. Got into the somewhat sparklier magikhque systems (without accepting any particular religion)
Age 12 - Realized how much of a douche I was. Sank into a deep depression, and was Buddhist. Depression and Buddhism are a natural combo for me. Any belief system saying that everything is suffering and illusion goes nicely with a mode of "I hate myself, everything sucks". When I was happier, I started getting into chaos magic. Struck me as really interesting, though I took what I read with some pretty big grains of salt. Started to develop an awareness of my more spiritual nature, and was searching through pagan routes for some sort of higher awareness. Looked into Dionysus, Pan, and various other dieties for some sort of guidance. Liked the symbolism, but never could really get into the religions based around them (mostly because I never believed they existed outside of being memetic constructs.)
Age 13 - There began the bipolar, and with it, some extreme spiritual turbulance. Around this time the chaos magic (which I was studying rather intensely, though I don't remember most of it now) led to Discordianism. Rather liked the idea, made me laugh, made me think, and I read a shitty text version of the Principia a fair bit. Joined up on the forums, and made my place as a quiet newbie. About 6 months in, I mostly stopped coming (mostly because I was in a medication induced haze, followed by being made very boring by medication.)
Age 14 - Bipolar came (mostly) under control (without meds), came back to the forums, and have been keepin on keepin on since.
Edit: I'm 15, by the way.
Quote from: LMNO on September 18, 2007, 05:26:25 PM
Chronologically, I guess:
In 1985, I decided I wanted to find the "rune of confusion".
In 1990, I was given Illuminatus!
in 1991, I found the Principia, and realized it didn't just exist in Illuminatus!.
Been a card-carrier ever since.
Does this mean I've been a personal failure the longest?
I'm pretty sure V still beats you.
Quote from: LMNO on September 18, 2007, 05:26:25 PM
Chronologically, I guess:
In 1985, I decided I wanted to find the "rune of confusion".
In 1990, I was given Illuminatus!
in 1991, I found the Principia, and realized it didn't just exist in Illuminatus!.
Been a card-carrier ever since.
Does this mean I've been a personal failure the longest?
If you calling is to be a card carrier then you will only be a failure if you drop the card.
-PT
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 17, 2007, 10:23:06 PMThing is: Do you have a notion about how big is discordianism in US/UK/outer space?
and the followup question: what are you trying to do now and what did you do to spread discordianism around? Have you ever did something biiig or nearly big, or just ninja tactics, breaking prisons one by one?
1. Not that big, I would suspect. In the UK, its more had an influence on artists and those in creative industries (like Alan Moore or KLF), but even there it is more at the fringes. I would think most Discordians are in the USA, but its a big country, so only really in the major cities and a few rogue provincials.
2. Uh, well, alot of what I do is covered by KYFMS (Keep Your Fucking Mouth Shut). Usually, if I do a mindfuck, I'll leave a couple of signature clues which would lead anyone back to Discordianism fairly quickly. I nearly managed to get Wimbledon shut down by some clever tactics at the logistics end, but sadly it never came to fruition. I have apprehensions about large mindfucks, because they draw media attention (which means I am no longer in control of how it is all percieved/presented), so I tend to work lower level than that. As for recruiting, I talk to people. If I think they show potential, which I find out via my nearly perfected screening process, I have a little chat with them at some point, one on one.
Quote from: The Littlest Ubermensch on September 18, 2007, 10:01:34 PM
Edit: I'm 15, by the way.
I'm 14.
Ok, next question: what are your favorite non-discordian books? (for instance, don't put any RAW thing or principia, cause this is obvious =D)
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 19, 2007, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: The Littlest Ubermensch on September 18, 2007, 10:01:34 PM
Edit: I'm 15, by the way.
I'm 14.
Ok, next question: what are your favorite non-discordian books? (for instance, don't put any RAW thing or principia, cause this is obvious =D)
While that may be true, you may very well still
act like you're 14.
With all due respect, of course.
God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher Hitchens
Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock (I know he's a hack but whatever)
Lots of Stuff by Stephen King
The Devil's Notebook by Anton Szandor LaVey
edit: The Power of Myth with Joseph Campbell (not technically a book, but I say it still counts)
And others
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 19, 2007, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: The Littlest Ubermensch on September 18, 2007, 10:01:34 PM
Edit: I'm 15, by the way.
I'm 14.
Ok, next question: what are your favorite non-discordian books? (for instance, don't put any RAW thing or principia, cause this is obvious =D)
I think I'm in the extreme minority on this board in that I really don't read much, outside of work that is. However, there is one book that I read almost religiously every year:
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury
Gaiman
Pratchett
Palanuk (you know which guy I'm spelling wrong. The Fight Club dude)
Will Self
Phil K Dick
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 19, 2007, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: The Littlest Ubermensch on September 18, 2007, 10:01:34 PM
Edit: I'm 15, by the way.
I'm 14.
Ok, next question: what are your favorite non-discordian books? (for instance, don't put any RAW thing or principia, cause this is obvious =D)
The Iliad
The 33 Strategies of War by Robert Greene
The 36 Strategies by T'ai Kung
Theatre and Cruelty by Antonin Artaud
The Book of 5 Rings by Musashi
The Will to Power - Nietzsche (Kaufmann translation)
Billion Dollar Bunko by Simon Lovell
Camus - The Rebel
Black Swan - Taleb Nicholas Nassem
I should probably stop there, before I get carried away
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2007, 02:17:01 PM
Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock (I know he's a hack but whatever)
I dunno, Underworld by him is pretty good so far (about 200 pages in).
William Gibson, Neuromancer/Count Zero/Mona Lisa Overdrive
All Terry Pratchett
Philip K. Dick, Man in the High Castle, Ubik, Valis especially, but all his stuff is great
Neal Stephenson, The Diamond Age - this one is my absolute favorite Stephenson book, but any and all of them are excellent
Bruce Sterling, A Good Old Fashioned Future - a collection of short stories, which I think he does better than novels
Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle - my all-time favorite book, I think. I'm a huge Vonnegut fan and love all his books, but Cat's Cradle is far and away my favorite
Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Stranger in a Strange Land - Stranger is great, but Moon is one of those books that influenced me quite a bit. Professor de la Paz's Rational Anarchy philosophy especially has been a huge influence on me.
Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, Long, Dark Teatime of the Soul, all the Hitchhiker books
I'm certainly forgetting a whole bunch of great stuff (I'm a big old-school sci fi [Arthur C. Clarke, Asimov, etc.] fan as well) but the ones above are certainly all in the running for all-time favorites.
cain didn't you forget that black swan book?
my favourite books .. i don't think it's very important or interesting for the interview, or is it?
i read the (complete/ultimate) hitchhiker's guide 6 or 7 times, i guess that must make it my most favourite book ever. but mostly because it's quick easy light reading, cause sometimes you just don't need all the heavy stuff.
apart from that, there are some technical books. "Goedel Escher Bach" pretty much blew my mind. mostly the chapter about Goedel's incompleteness theorem btw, the other stuff i pretty much figured out on my own already. it convinced me that when you get right down to the roots, science is not inherently more "valid" than other worldviews (re the GUT/GOD bit i put in the thread in apple talk).
apart from that, there's
- "Pattern Classification" by Duda, Hart & Stork. a really good reference book on the more numerical-oriented artificial intelligence algorithms.
- "Algorithmics: the Spirit of Computing" by Harel. contains basic need-to-know stuff about sorting algorithms, linked lists, trees, shortest-path algorithms, probabilistic prime-finding. also it contains a totally out-of-context bible quote at the beginning and end of each chapter. my favourite is Exodus 26:4 "And thou shalt make loops" (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Exd&chapter=26&verse=4&version=kjv#4)
- "PPK on Javascript" by Peter Paul Koch, currently IMO the best book about writing standards-enabled semantic HTML, proper CSS and Javascript "the right way".
and some dutch stuff:
- "het allerslechtste van Spekkie Big", the most brilliant cartoon ever written.
- "wat & hoe in het hongaars", because really, nothing enables you to have more fun with hungarian people than to actually try and speak their language .. from a book.
- anything by Gummbah, or Kamagurka & Herr Seele, and "Het Stomme Beertje" : more brilliant cartoons
These are good questions!
And I'm not surprised that I share a lot of my favorite books with many of the other posters here.
an incomplete list of books which are really important to me:
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig
The Power of Myth, an interview with Joseph Campbell
Journey to Ixtlan by Carlos Castaneda
American Gods by Neil Gaiman
The 48 Laws of Power
The Invisibles (okay, it's a comic book, AND the author is Discordian, but I'm counting it anyway)
The Teachings of Don Juan (but only if you realize he's fucking with Castanada's head... if he actually existed...)
Vonnegut - Cat's Cradle, Slaughterhouse V, Breakfast Of Champions
Kilgore Trout (LOL) - Venus on The Half Shell
Douglas Adams - Hitchhikers Guide Series, Dirk Gently Series
Gaiman - Agree with the above recommendations
The Very First True Discordian I ever read (and personal friend of Our Beloved Emperor) Mark Twain - The Adam Family papers, Letters From the Earth, All of his Short Stories, The Mysterious Stranger, Tom Sawyer, The Innocents Abroad, anything else written by the lunatic ever.
Joseph Campbell - The Hero With A Thousand Faces (and the Interview mentioned above, available on YouTube!)
Heinlein - Everything mentioned above
Prachett - All the stuff mentioned above
Douglas Hofstadter - Gödel Escher Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid and The Mind's I
PKD - Lots of Stuff
I looove Douglas Adams books, although I have never read Dirk Gently. I'd like to.
Next question: what do you think it's the most important aim of discordianism: only get people to be free in this society of slavery or try to change the society? Know what I mean?
The most important aim of Discordianism is LAIL.
I think culture & society is too big and confused and complex to be changed by individuals anymore. By watching the news, one might get the impression that individuals are doing the work, but they're just drones for things which 'really' exist - movements, memetic structures, the rise and fall of ideas, the collective emotions of the populous...
in terms of how Discordians can change society - the Rev WHN summed this up well at the BIP Wiki...
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name?
You can change parts of [the machine]. But, realistically, you can't overcome or change the whole of it. Some may be optimistic and think if you continuously change little parts here and there that the cumulative effect will be whole scale change.
So with that in mind, the game plan seems to be to get individuals to Think For Themselves. And if we do it enough, we'll be living in a more self-conscious machine.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 19, 2007, 05:16:16 PM
I looove Douglas Adams books, although I have never read Dirk Gently. I'd like to.
Next question: what do you think it's the most important aim of discordianism: only get people to be free in this society of slavery or try to change the society? Know what I mean?
The most important aim of Discordianism, as far as I can tell... seems to be personal. Taking command of one's own brain, recognizing that our interpretation of reality is only an interpretation of reality. Sometimes, Discordians seem to focus on how fucked other people's perception of reality appears and they forget that their perception is just as prone to error. We can learn all sorts of stuff about neurology, psychology, philosophy and science... we can have The Knowledge of a Sage. However, if we lose the Wisdom of a Child (
But why? Because children's wisdom is always questioning the answers.
But why? Well, because they don't know the answers.
But Why? AGHHAGHH!!!!) then will we be enlightened, or just smart? It's easy to think we found the answers, but maybe that's only because we stop asking "But Why?"
As for other people... It seems like a good time and lots of fun to try to wake them up, but I think the main aim of Discordianism (if one exists) is to affect change in the Discordian.
Of course, that's just my opinion.
True, true... "think for yourself, schmuck" seems to be one of the biggest points to make.
Also Rat, "A conclusion is simply where you stopped thinking" seems to apply to your post.
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2007, 05:55:17 PM
True, true... "think for yourself, schmuck" seems to be one of the biggest points to make.
Also Rat, "A conclusion is simply where you stopped thinking" seems to apply to your post.
Yep, I was thinking that exact line when I wrote the post. Well that and Crowley's "Every Soldier should be followed by a Hunchback"!?!?!?!?!???!!!???!!?!!?
Influential books to Mang' (at risk of drawing great derision upon his polystyrene nose).
a) The Tibetan Book Of Living & Dying - Sogyal Rinpoche
b) On The Road - Kerouac (and Beat writing generally)
c) Generation X - Douglas Coupland
d) Why Freud Was Wrong - R. Wilson(?)
e) Magick (aka Book 4 aka Liber ABA) - Crowley
f) The Chicken Qabalah Of Rabbi Lamed Ben Clifford - L M Duquette
g) Popular science books on Quantum Physics, Cosmology, Consciousness Research et al.
h) Oriental works relating to Health, Spirituality & Martial Arts
i) OmG LOL FNORD2311!!s (aka Principia Discordia - Loompanics Edition)
j) Early 80s Archie comics. Srsly.
k) The Hiram Key - a totally terrible, dreadful piece of ill-considered conspiracy nonsense. But important in that it got me to do a lot of reading & research into the 'Western Mystery Tradition' so-called and thus able to entirely refute and mock other terrible, dreadful works of ill-considered conspiracy nonsense. (cf: Laz & Closer to God website).
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 19, 2007, 05:16:16 PMNext question: what do you think it's the most important aim of discordianism: only get people to be free in this society of slavery or try to change the society? Know what I mean?
Society is always slavery. Changing it is pointless, unless there's some kind of slavery you prefer over what you already have. Even then, the headlining act of every Revolution always makes a piss-poor management team if the Revolution wins. I don't think Discordianism is strictly for the Individual: it can and should be applied as a force for social upheaval. But it shouldn't ever become loyal to any kind of Establishment. If Discordians overthrew the current government and set up a new one, I'd make some new organization to subvert that version instead. So the most important aim of Discordianism is to forcibly extract people from their Comfort Zones, regardless of what makes them comfortable -- even if they're comfortable in agreement with what most Discordians tend to think.
Oh, in response to Mang... I think The Book of Lies is fun, but I'm not convinced of how important it is.
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2007, 06:02:30 PM
Oh, in response to Mang... I think The Book of Lies is fun, but I'm not convinced of how important it is.
Book of Lies is a lot of fun, if you're nerdy enough to do the sort of reading necessary to get all the 'in jokes'.
Yeah, I'm with you on that. Fun, but probably not important.
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2007, 06:02:30 PM
Oh, in response to Mang... I think The Book of Lies is fun, but I'm not convinced of how important it is.
I think it depends... if as a Discordian, you want to experience significantly different "models"... Crowley did a great job with a complex model to immerse yourself in.
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2007, 06:01:07 PM
I don't think Discordianism is strictly for the Individual: it can and should be applied as a force for social upheaval.
I agree, I think the primary focus of the PD and of Discordianism may be more personal, but the changes wrought in the person usually lead to their preference for social upheaval... in some sense*.
*as compared to SubG's which seem to have their primary focus aimed at the Pinks.
Hmm, I thought I had submitted a response to Rev CK's latest question. Oh well, I think that bit that Cram quoted from me from awhile ago is pretty much how I still feel about the aim of Discordianism.
Favourite books (in no order):
"Consider Her Ways"
"Factotum"
"The Illiad"
"A Scanner Darkly"
"Deadeye Dick" & "Jailbird"
"Beautiful Losers"
"Master and Margarita"
"Ulysses" (yes, I really do enjoy reading it. Most of it, anyway)
"The Dark Tower Series"
"The Negative Dialectics Of Poodle Play"
Excellent answers so far, guys. :D
Ok, I'm going to do some background to this question... Personally, I think a fair capitalist world is as utopic as an anarchy world.
What do you think we can do to make our society better? Do you think "doing our part" is good or do we have to make some special effort? Having the same opinion as mine, do you think anything can be done?
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 19, 2007, 02:10:20 PM
Quote from: The Littlest Ubermensch on September 18, 2007, 10:01:34 PM
Edit: I'm 15, by the way.
I'm 14.
Ok, next question: what are your favorite non-discordian books? (for instance, don't put any RAW thing or principia, cause this is obvious =D)
What qualifies as a non-Discordian book? A few of my favorite book of the past few years were written by someone heavly influenced by Discordianism and RAW.
45 (http://www.amazon.com/45-New-Bill-Drummond/dp/0349112894/ref=sr_1_7/105-1201490-4064410?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190284743&sr=1-7) by Bill Drummond.
Bad Wisdom (http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Wisdom-Bill-Drummond/dp/184068108X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-1201490-4064410?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190284841&sr=1-1) by Bill Drummond and Mark Manning
Collateral Damage (http://www.amazon.com/Collateral-Damage-Zodiac-Mindwarp-American/dp/1840680776/ref=sr_1_5/105-1201490-4064410?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190284888&sr=1-5)
Fucked by Rock (http://www.amazon.com/Fucked-Rock-Unspeakable-Confessions-Mindwarp/dp/1840680261/ref=sr_1_8/105-1201490-4064410?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190284888&sr=1-8) by Mark Manning
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 19, 2007, 05:16:16 PMNext question: what do you think it's the most important aim of discordianism: only get people to be free in this society of slavery or try to change the society? Know what I mean?
To wake them up to new possibilities and ideas. To realize authority is always suspect, regardless of what it claims and that reality is often messy and unpredictable.
And to have fun, of course.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 02:25:01 AMWhat do you think we can do to make our society better? Do you think "doing our part" is good or do we have to make some special effort? Having the same opinion as mine, do you think anything can be done?
Hang all bankers.
That aside, decentralize power and decision making as much as possible. Restructure the economy to value leisure time, creative endeavours etc more (I have ideas on how to do this, but they are pretty complex. And require robots to do nearly all the heavy industry work). Educate people in the art of critical thinking from an early age, and teach them to be skeptical towards everything. Then trust them to make decisions based on their own knowledge and preferences, within reason.
Cain, those are great ideas.
I really like the critical thinking and emphasis on SLACK.
As far as decentralized decision making, what about national disasters, interstate commerce, foreign policy, etc? There seem to be some instances where a more pyramid-style system seems to be more effective.
Actually, you'll find centralized systems tend to fail in many circumstances. New Orleans, anyone? I wont even go into security, where centralized systems are by far the easiest to break. Decentralized systems are far more robust in economic and security terms.
Sure, there will still be a need for a national/federal level, to manage some affairs. But why should my local council have to beg to the central Government every single time it wants to do something? Its unnecessary, and it makes a mockery of even having a sub-national government. Plus, its a perfect cover for the national government to undertake all sorts of private data collection, "protection of me for my own good" and other assorted crap I dont really like. If my needs are mostly dealt with locally, then the national government has no excuse to get involved in the first place.
I'll explain this more when I don't have a fuzzy head. I'm not even sure if the above makes sense, because for the last hour I've felt really light-headed and uncomfortable. But for now, it will hold, I hope.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 02:25:01 AM
Excellent answers so far, guys. :D
Ok, I'm going to do some background to this question... Personally, I think a fair capitalist world is as utopic as an anarchy world.
What do you think we can do to make our society better? Do you think "doing our part" is good or do we have to make some special effort? Having the same opinion as mine, do you think anything can be done?
My thoughts are similar to Cain's. I think one of the biggest improvements that can be made in our society is to foster a better value in imagination. When we are kids, we spend so much of our time in our imagination. Whether it be drawing or coloring, reading, playing, or just acting like goofs. It seems there's a point where that is directly and indirectly discouraged, and I believe it's in school, the exact place where that should be fostered.
Imagination is key to problem solving, but, really in school the most exposure kids get to problem solving is in mathematics, and the way that's set up, you really can't use creativity and imagination. In that kind of problem solving, there is One ultimate solution. Anything else is wrong. And into adulthood this kind of thinking is reinforced. For example, when you vote you have to vote for a Donkey or an Elephant. So we breed an army of apathetic dullards who can't think outside of the box. Of course, some are able to circumvent all of this, but I feel there should be many, many more.
Until then, our society will forever worship the God of Status Quo, and preach blasphemy against those who shun his teachings of Entrenchment and Inaction.
Quote from: Cain on September 20, 2007, 01:29:43 PM
That aside, decentralize power and decision making as much as possible. Restructure the economy to value leisure time, creative endeavours etc more (I have ideas on how to do this, but they are pretty complex. And require robots to do nearly all the heavy industry work). Educate people in the art of critical thinking from an early age, and teach them to be skeptical towards everything. Then trust them to make decisions based on their own knowledge and preferences, within reason.
my thoughts exactly.
seriously it's kinda weird to see how much this resembles my own thoughts on improving society. since i never articulated these thoughts on these fora (because i know far too less about politics to foresee any pitfalls or whatever). but especially the decentralization bit, i've been saying that for years before i even got to discordianism.
would be interested in the ideas, just for the sake of it :)
also, about the robots, i gotta mention the bit in Schroedinger's Cat Trilogy, you know which part.
One of our brazilian discordians (Rev. Ibrahim Cesar, from blog 1001 Schröedinger's Cat [www.1001gatos.org]) started a discussion in his blog with a nice question, which I'd like to copy here:
Global warming. Do you consider yourself guilty or victim? Why?
As far as politics goes: see Cain's posts. Couldn't have said it better.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:05:03 PM
One of our brazilian discordians (Rev. Ibrahim Cesar, from blog 1001 Schröedinger's Cat [www.1001gatos.org]) started a discussion in his blog with a nice question, which I'd like to copy here:
Global warming. Do you consider yourself guilty or victim? Why?
I don't care, really.
I should, but I don't.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:05:03 PM
One of our brazilian discordians (Rev. Ibrahim Cesar, from blog 1001 Schröedinger's Cat [www.1001gatos.org]) started a discussion in his blog with a nice question, which I'd like to copy here:
Global warming. Do you consider yourself guilty or victim? Why?
Neither.
I am of a belief that the Earth is going to do its thing, despite what humans think they can or cannot do to change its weather systems. I'm not a Phd, I haven't done any peer reviewed research on the matter, it's just what I believe. So I can't say I'm guilty or a victim. I'm just another schmuck living on this hunk of space rock, existing until his number comes up, then it's someone else's deal.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:05:03 PM
One of our brazilian discordians (Rev. Ibrahim Cesar, from blog 1001 Schröedinger's Cat [www.1001gatos.org]) started a discussion in his blog with a nice question, which I'd like to copy here:
Global warming. Do you consider yourself guilty or victim? Why?
If he's using an Aristotelean either/or in his question, he doesn't seem to be much of a Discordian.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:05:03 PM
One of our brazilian discordians (Rev. Ibrahim Cesar, from blog 1001 Schröedinger's Cat [www.1001gatos.org]) started a discussion in his blog with a nice question, which I'd like to copy here:
Global warming. Do you consider yourself guilty or victim? Why?
I'm still unsure that the theories of causes and effects as related to Global Warming are well understood or modeled in a reasonable fashion. It may, yet it may not, place me as guilty or victim or other.
i've been doing my part to conserve energy all my life, at least, as much as i believe i can comfortably manage. except for the bit where i tend to leave my computer on 24/7. which probably negates the whole effort. but then again, conserving energy has other advantages as well :)
apart from that, i don't see myself as a victim. the netherlands are confident that they can built dikes good enough to resist predicted water-level rise in the upcoming century (we've been doing this for ages, afterall). the poor people in Bangladesh, however, are at the same sea-level and are in for much worse disasters .. :-/
whether it's humans or "natural" climate change, i dunno either. doesn't mean we can't try and see what we can do about it though.
Quote from: LMNO on September 20, 2007, 08:21:35 PM
If he's using an Aristotelean either/or in his question, he doesn't seem to be much of a Discordian.
As far as I understood what you said, Ibrahim didn't exclude the possibility of answering "none of the two" or "both", or "another answer". =)
But, going on with this, I'm going to post the last question. I'll get everything that's here to make the article on monday (I'll travel this weekend), so everyone has the chance to answer the past questions.
Before I post it, I'd like to say an interesting thing: we have different realities for "global warming". Seriously, here in Brazil although most of the people seem to give a shit about the environment, but because of pure ignorance. The media paints it as an absolute truth - really, nobody that sees TV, reads the newspaper, or even reads the internet news would doubt about the
"factness" apearance of the global warming.
My last question couldn't be more commonplace: If you have the chance, what'd you say to (or ask to...):
1) Brazilian discordians
2) A serial killer
3) Paris Hilton
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:59:38 PM
My last question couldn't be more commonplace: If you have the chance, what'd you say to (or ask to...):
1) Brazilian discordians
2) A serial killer
3) Paris Hilton
1) How/where did you find the BIP pamphlet? (you may have told me when we first me but I forget.)
2) How do you feel about the War on Terror?
3) Whaddya think, should the wife and I go for the grainy cell-phone video look, or the night vision? Which do you prefer?
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:59:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 20, 2007, 08:21:35 PM
If he's using an Aristotelean either/or in his question, he doesn't seem to be much of a Discordian.
As far as I understood what you said, Ibrahim didn't exclude the possibility of answering "none of the two" or "both", or "another answer". =)
But, going on with this, I'm going to post the last question. I'll get everything that's here to make the article on monday (I'll travel this weekend), so everyone has the chance to answer the past questions.
Before I post it, I'd like to say an interesting thing: we have different realities for "global warming". Seriously, here in Brazil although most of the people seem to give a shit about the environment, but because of pure ignorance. The media paints it as an absolute truth - really, nobody that sees TV, reads the newspaper, or even reads the internet news would doubt about the "factness" apearance of the global warming.
My last question couldn't be more commonplace: If you have the chance, what'd you say to (or ask to...):
1) Brazilian discordians
2) A serial killer
3) Paris Hilton
1) Brazilian discordians
You're all excommunicated.
Or
Please come and play with us more often. We Discordians must stick apart, but that doesn't mean we can't hang together ;-)
2) A serial killer
Why, damnit! Why did you kill the Rabbit and Cap'n Crunch?!
Or
*I suppose it would depend on the method. If it was a sniper, I wouldn't be much interested... if it was something like Jack the Ripper or the Boston Strangler, I'd probably have a book of questions.*
3) Paris Hilton
Yes, I know that you're a skank, that's why I'm using two condoms.
Or
How did the realization that your family was famous affect you? (Apparently she had no idea how famous her family was until she saw a news headline about her parents divorce). I would love to spend several days, weeks or months with someone like Paris, her experience of reality on this planet is one had by only a few individuals and I find that fascinating. There has to be something more than a dumb blonde inside her and I would love to be able to model her '4-circuits' to better understand the experience she has had.
yeah, "model her 4 circuits" hur hur hur
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:59:38 PMIf you have the chance, what'd you say to (or ask to...):
1) Brazilian discordians
2) A serial killer
3) Paris Hilton
A) Does it itch when it grows back in?
B) Shouldn't we be more worried about the others like you who AREN'T getting caught?
C) What the fuck was with that pic of you holding Trout Mask Replica?
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 20, 2007, 09:16:40 PM
How/where did you find the BIP pamphlet? (you may have told me when we first me but I forget.)
Oh, the pamphlet? It was kind of easy. I was visiting the principiadiscordia.com site, and then I entered the forum. I saw there was a board called BIP Project or something like that. I was interested in that, clicked and saw the noob advice. There the author said I should read the BIP to know what the board is talking about. I liked the ideal of reviewing the principia, I read in forty minutes or so, and then decided to translate it. :)
See?
Some people aren't complete and utter morans.
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:59:38 PM
1) Brazilian discordians
2) A serial killer
3) Paris Hilton
1. Which country makes the best Pisco Sour?
2. What is your internal justification and rationalization for your killings? That is, do you have a set of logics that justify your actions?
3. Can I borrow a couple million dollars?
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 20, 2007, 08:59:38 PM
1) Brazilian discordians
2) A serial killer
3) Paris Hilton
1) I need a place to crash, possibly in the near future, where no-one will look for me. Do you have, like any spare rooms or hidden basements I can borrow?
2) Are you interested in a possibly very profitable business relationship where you will be able to pursue your hobbies and get paid?
3) How would you like to join Hollywood's newest religious craze? Of course, I will need suitable compensation for giving you the secret of ancient Discordian masters, so shall we do this by cash or credit card?
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 16, 2007, 02:10:00 AM
The forum underwent a little transplant procedure, glad to see you made it back.
This sounds like a great idea. A good opportunity to reach out to another Discordian community.
...AND POOP ON THEM!
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2007, 02:08:12 PM
How would you like to join Hollywood's newest religious craze? Of course, I will need suitable compensation for giving you the secret of ancient Discordian masters, so shall we do this by cash or credit card?
:potd:
Quote from: triple zero on September 20, 2007, 09:40:42 PM
yeah, "model her 4 circuits" hur hur hur
LOL, How did I miss that earlier?
bump for update:
http://orkutcidio.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/primeiro-post-no-forum-principiadiscordiacom/ (http://orkutcidio.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/primeiro-post-no-forum-principiadiscordiacom/)
Looks like Rev. Peterson Cekemp used some of our responses on his blog at least. I tried running the page through bablefish but the non-english bits still didn't make much sense. Anyway, just thought I'd share the news.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 21, 2007, 06:57:29 PM
bump for update:
http://orkutcidio.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/primeiro-post-no-forum-principiadiscordiacom/ (http://orkutcidio.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/primeiro-post-no-forum-principiadiscordiacom/)
Looks like Rev. Peterson Cekemp used some of our responses on his blog at least. I tried running the page through bablefish but the non-english bits still didn't make much sense. Anyway, just thought I'd share the news.
I couldn't let that go unanswered.
Post comments for great justice.
OK, I ll explain the situation: first of all, sorry for the lateness, but we were hoping to publish the magazine about the end of October; we couldn't - actually, we could, but we would have to make it all in plain text, what I consider a lot boring, since I picked up some nice photos and etc (for the other articles); we are waiting for a friend to see if he can find a way to fix the word-pdf problem, and since he's kind of busy (university) I think we'll have to wait till January or February. I expected to come here and fiiiinally tell you it was published, but I have to admit that this may take a while... Sorry.
Happy New Year, everybody =)
Well...from what I understand:
Quote from: Rev. Peterson CekempI was (convidade) for Rev. What's-his-name to some time participate in the let's say "official" American/British Discordian forum. As not to post grammatical errors in English, I translated a text from my blog and asked my English teacher to look it over. He corrected it and I posted it there. These were the reactions to the text, which can be found here. (http://orkutcidio.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/inteligencia-ou-fraqueza/)
Payne said: (quote)
Triple Zero said: (quote)
After I responded to the first commentary, Payne said: (quote)
And then Cain said: (quote)
I find that these commentaries were very (brave?). Seriously, there is always room to expand on the proper ideas.
And closing, a comment that I liked from What's-his-name: (quote)
Lol Romance languages.
Well, I think that looks right. Maybe Rev. Cekemp can help share what he had to say?
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on December 23, 2007, 05:28:41 AM
OK, I ll explain the situation: first of all, sorry for the lateness, but we were hoping to publish the magazine about the end of October; we couldn't - actually, we could, but we would have to make it all in plain text, what I consider a lot boring, since I picked up some nice photos and etc (for the other articles); we are waiting for a friend to see if he can find a way to fix the word-pdf problem, and since he's kind of busy (university) I think we'll have to wait till January or February. I expected to come here and fiiiinally tell you it was published, but I have to admit that this may take a while... Sorry.
Happy New Year, everybody =)
No apologies needed. I'm just a nosy bastard and wanted to share with the rest of the class. :lol:
Finally!!!!!
Heeey everybody, someone managed to convert the .doc file to .pdf file successfully! Now we're ready to spread it on the internet, print it, whatever. I know that you won't understand portuguese, but, if you wanna check it out, download it here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/36952937/43db5b70/Discrdia_Brasilis_Nmero1.html
Your interview is the last article and, since no text is new, you make up the most important thing in this edition. Thanks for the answers and for your patience too, haehea.
Woot and stuff, downloading now.
Cool, I of course don't understand a single word of it, but it looks very impressive. Congrats.
Yay, I understood the word Fnord... but that was it... oh and Please. I got that one somewhere in there.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Hey guy.
That's nice.
I've heard about the Discordia Brasilis in somewhere. I don't know exactly, but it doesn't matter.
Well, in my facebook I have a brazilian friend who calls Timoteo. He looks like very nice.
Wow, i wrote a lot. I hope you success with this project. Can you traduce the Discordia Brasilis in English to us?
Hail Eris. Or?
My girlfriend has a brazillian woman in one of her classes. The woman recognized the Sacred Chao on my girl's jacket and went out of her way to comment on it. Apparently Discordjia's pretty big over there? Crazy.
I work with a Colombian woman... maybe I'll see if she recognizes?
You know, maybe we've had it wrong all along. Perhaps we all should be pursuing the Brazillian Dream.
Perhaps we should all just get Brazillian waxes.
Way ahead of y'all.
BVH
-sits on a white three-piece suit, AND a hairless arse
you really are the spitting image of a southern gentleman
(from canada)
Brazilians r the sillay, with their Portuguese, and their suicide bombers plumbers and their volleyball team.
I also believe one of the best known/most popular Brazilian bloggers is openly Discordian, which may help account for the recognition, at least among the internet savvy population.
Quote from: timmoriarty on May 12, 2008, 02:10:14 AM
Hey guy.
That's nice.
I've heard about the Discordia Brasilis in somewhere. I don't know exactly, but it doesn't matter.
Well, in my facebook I have a brazilian friend who calls Timoteo. He looks like very nice.
Wow, i wrote a lot. I hope you success with this project. Can you traduce the Discordia Brasilis in English to us?
Hail Eris. Or?
Yeah, Timoteo is cool =D. His actual nickname is Wodouvhaox, because Timoteo is the brazilian version of Luther Blisset =)
About the translation, I'm sorry but it actually would be very difficult. I'm involved in a lot of (actually not a lot, but they still take time) projects and, since we're looking forward to DB #2, it would be hard =/
wow
Maybe I will move to Brazil.
attn: apparently, it is ok in brazil to set your girlfriend on fire if you suspect her of cheating on you.
That's Nuts!
Quote from: LMNO on June 02, 2008, 04:30:57 PM
attn: apparently, it is ok in brazil to set your girlfriend on fire if you suspect her of cheating on you.
I thought that was India.
No wait, that's 'have your wife set on fire after you die'. Never mind.
Congrats to the Brazillians for getting their shit together and publishing!
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
I realize I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wrote my first Discordian bits right after I got hold of the then brand new Steve Jackson Games' edition of
Principia Discordia in 1994. I'd known about some of the background of it before that, especially the Robert Anton Wilson and Dr. Timothy Leary connections, but that's when I got serious--or at least as serious as a Discordian is allowed to get.
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 06, 2008, 06:05:54 AM
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
I realize I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wrote my first Discordian bits right after I got hold of the then brand new Steve Jackson Games' edition of Principia Discordia in 1994. I'd known about some of the background of it before that, especially the Robert Anton Wilson and Dr. Timothy Leary connections, but that's when I got serious--or at least as serious as a Discordian is allowed to get.
Then you've been around Discordianism as long or longer than about 90% of this forum.
Not sure why it's important, though, and why you keep digging for excuses to brag about your "cred".
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 06, 2008, 06:05:54 AM
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
I realize I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wrote my first Discordian bits right after I got hold of the then brand new Steve Jackson Games' edition of Principia Discordia in 1994. I'd known about some of the background of it before that, especially the Robert Anton Wilson and Dr. Timothy Leary connections, but that's when I got serious--or at least as serious as a Discordian is allowed to get.
Shit, I fuckin' out-Discordia-old-age you by a year. YELLOW LOOMPANICS EDITION, BITCH.
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 06, 2008, 06:05:54 AM
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
I realize I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wrote my first Discordian bits right after I got hold of the then brand new Steve Jackson Games' edition of Principia Discordia in 1994. I'd known about some of the background of it before that, especially the Robert Anton Wilson and Dr. Timothy Leary connections, but that's when I got serious--or at least as serious as a Discordian is allowed to get.
You know they have message boards too. forums.sjgames.com I think they'd like to meat you.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2008, 06:09:33 AM
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 06, 2008, 06:05:54 AM
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
I realize I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wrote my first Discordian bits right after I got hold of the then brand new Steve Jackson Games' edition of Principia Discordia in 1994. I'd known about some of the background of it before that, especially the Robert Anton Wilson and Dr. Timothy Leary connections, but that's when I got serious--or at least as serious as a Discordian is allowed to get.
Then you've been around Discordianism as long or longer than about 90% of this forum.
Not sure why it's important, though, and why you keep digging for excuses to brag about your "cred".
He wants to be known and noted.
Read I3! in the summer of 1991, Got my pope card in 92.
Suck it, Uncle BadTouch.
LMNO
-yes, is really that pathetic.
Gosh, you're such a kind and loving bunch. How sweet.
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 07, 2008, 06:11:01 AM
Gosh, you're such a kind and loving bunch. How sweet.
You're really not helping yourself here.
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 07, 2008, 06:11:01 AM
Gosh, you're such a kind and loving bunch. How sweet.
A bit of biographical background is nice, but when you come across as tooting your horn, it makes
me wonder what you think said tooting is going to do for you.
What, exactly, were you hoping for? Adulation? Automatic, unthinking respect?
You're a stranger here. You have to start on square one like all the other strangers. Actually, that's not entirely true; you're a stranger with a tainted reputation. How you handle that is up to you, just as how we greet you is up to each of is.
Several people have greeted you quite cordially. Most of us have simply said nothing. Making sarcastic generalizations about us being "a kind and loving bunch" or otherwise implying that you think we're all the same is only likely to antagonize those who were previously friendly or withholding judgement.
Quote from: Nigel on June 07, 2008, 08:18:14 PM
Several people have greeted you quite cordially. Most of us have simply said nothing. Making sarcastic generalizations about us being "a kind and loving bunch" or otherwise implying that you think we're all the same is only likely to antagonize those who were previously friendly or withholding judgement.
Uncle BadTouch,
TOLD YOU SO :lol:
i advised you (via PM) to not generalize the whole of PD.com. most n00bs don't even need this advice, and i spelled it out for you. what does that say about you?
"think for yourself" means something different than simply being stubborn and not taking advice.
Uncle BadTouch is doing exactly what AKK did. Except, instead of pimping crappy goth-synth-metal. He's trying to wow us with his supposed Discordian celebrity or status. It's quite annoying really.
actually, IMO, he hasn't really tried to "wow" us, at least that's not how it looked like to me, but more how some people reacted to it.
he's a long-time discordian from a different community, it's only natural to start off by introducing his background, no?
plus, am i the only one who sees the irony in RBoG--who i also dont know--practically being hailed as a saint, at the same time?
by all means, attack him for being a douchebag, but it's not going to help much in the douchebaggery category if he's attacked for simply every post he makes, regardless of content.
The thing that bothers me is his painful sincerity. Man needs to go outside more often.
PS everyone likes me because I have boobs.
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 06, 2008, 06:05:54 AM
Quote from: Rev. Peterson Cekemp on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
I realize I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wrote my first Discordian bits right after I got hold of the then brand new Steve Jackson Games' edition of Principia Discordia in 1994. I'd known about some of the background of it before that, especially the Robert Anton Wilson and Dr. Timothy Leary connections, but that's when I got serious--or at least as serious as a Discordian is allowed to get.
hope Steve Jackson chocks on his own vomit
I hate Leary
don't have anything against RAW though Im not a fan of most of what I read
never finished the PD all the way through
we're going to get along just fine
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on June 07, 2008, 09:11:10 PM
The thing that bothers me is his painful sincerity. Man needs to go outside more often.
talking about me, or Uncle BadTouch?
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on June 07, 2008, 09:12:02 PM
PS everyone likes me because I have boobs.
you're
so special. :roll:
are you trying to wow us with your extra genetic material?
I wasn't serious, about the boobs part at least. I'm just saying, this Uncle BadTouch guy wanders in, writes a novel about himself, then talks about himself in pms to everyone, then keeps talking about himself and what he's done and who he's met, all with a great deal of seriousness. Yeah, that might be cool if we all knew and accepted him, but he's a stranger round these parts. It just comes off as self-important, cause for all we know he's got no street-cred.
Me, by contrast, I've been part of this site for a long time, even if I do drop out occasionally. I've posted my fluff and made my rants and had long debates and squashed noobs and put up posters and things like that. Hell, I bitched out Roger and ECH repeatedly when they were being douchebags. I would hope that people remember me. I certainly remember you. I act like a giant attention whore because that is my internet persona and I assumed that everyone knew I was being, how do you humans say, humorous. Uncle BadTouch has no humor that I can detect, and he annoys me.
The impression I get of him so far (and I am certainly willing to change that impression based on future interactions with him) is of someone with big fish/small pond syndrome... he's built himself a nice following on his site, one consisting largely of younger people. There's a certain dynamic accompanying that, and I think he's grown so accustomed to that dynamic that he was, perhaps subconsciously, expecting to see it repeated here, and wasn't prepared to have to start from the beginning and go through all the steps of earning our respect.
Now, he could go in a couple of directions, depending on how well he's able to handle being outside of his comfort zone; he can mingle, chat, and try to join our group as just another spag like us, or he can retreat to his demesnes, where he is already the king of the roost.
Quote from: triple zero on June 07, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
actually, IMO, he hasn't really tried to "wow" us, at least that's not how it looked like to me, but more how some people reacted to it.
he's a long-time discordian from a different community, it's only natural to start off by introducing his background, no?
plus, am i the only one who sees the irony in RBoG--who i also dont know--practically being hailed as a saint, at the same time?
by all means, attack him for being a douchebag, but it's not going to help much in the douchebaggery category if he's attacked for simply every post he makes, regardless of content.
Well, that's how it came off to me. And there is no irony. It's been a long time since some of us long-timers have seen RBoG. So it's natural for us to be giddy with delight at her return. Uncle BadTouch just has bad timing. Maybe I'm just in a surly space right now, but that's how I see it.
when he hinted at being sexually attracted to children, he lost me :vom:
Yeah, he's got a lot of 'splainin' to do on that one.
Fuck. That's two threads in a row I've clicked on where that issue has come up.
Quote from: triple zero on June 07, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
plus, am i the only one who sees the irony in RBoG--who i also dont know--practically being hailed as a saint, at the same time?
Not really. On PD.com, RBoG has proven, documented WIN. She has shown what kind of person she is though 4000 posts, and those of us who remember her, remember her well.
She's taken her share of flames, and dished it out, too. On the basis of the majority of her posts, she's cool.
On the basis of the majority of Uncle BadTouch's posts, not so much. But I'm willing to hear him out.
Quote from: Nigel on June 07, 2008, 10:40:47 PM
The impression I get of him so far (and I am certainly willing to change that impression based on future interactions with him) is of someone with big fish/small pond syndrome... he's built himself a nice following on his site, one consisting largely of younger people. There's a certain dynamic accompanying that, and I think he's grown so accustomed to that dynamic that he was, perhaps subconsciously, expecting to see it repeated here, and wasn't prepared to have to start from the beginning and go through all the steps of earning our respect.
Now, he could go in a couple of directions, depending on how well he's able to handle being outside of his comfort zone; he can mingle, chat, and try to join our group as just another spag like us, or he can retreat to his demesnes, where he is already the king of the roost.
I think you're almost right, Nigel.
PD.com often appears fantastically disconnected from much of the "Discordian Internets". Uncle BadTouch is a pretty well known guy in most of the Discordian Internets circles and a number of the real life Discordian circles. Recently, PD.com has been more interactive, but really, this has been a sort of Ivory Tower for Discordians. Other than St. Syn, and Cram (by another name) I don't recall seeing any of the other posters in the rest of Discordialand, except here. I've been a member here since 2003 and usually just watched the flamefests and fights like a Roman at the Coliseum, then went off to other Discordian realms to actually have my fun.
Uncle BadTouch will have to acclimate himself to the unique tricks of PD.com, no doubt. But, I don't think its fair to say "Big Fish, Small Pond" when pd.com seems much more like an exclusive aquarium at Sea World. :lulz:
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Was that on purpose?
Quote from: keeper entropic on June 09, 2008, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Was that on purpose?
ROFL!
Appropriate, for Sand is what's left of Mother Earth, once Eris gets done beating the shit out of her.
Quote from: keeper entropic on June 09, 2008, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Was that on purpose?
No. Just sort of fell out of my head and then I noticed LMNO's post.
Point still stands though.
I remember the time that me and Thornley got drunk & hate a whole box of Twinkies!
\
:gheyforum:
PD.com --> :|
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 07:26:19 PM
Quote from: keeper entropic on June 09, 2008, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Was that on purpose?
No. Just sort of fell out of my head and then I noticed LMNO's post.
Point still stands though.
I remember the time that me and Thornley got drunk & hate a whole box of Twinkies!
\
:gheyforum:
PD.com --> :|
For the record, I'd hate a whole box of Twinkies, too.
I'd go emo for a Klondike Bar.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 07:26:19 PM
Quote from: keeper entropic on June 09, 2008, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Was that on purpose?
No. Just sort of fell out of my head and then I noticed LMNO's post.
Point still stands though.
I remember the time that me and Thornley got drunk & hate a whole box of Twinkies!
\
:gheyforum:
PD.com --> :|
I hate a whole box of Twinkies EVERY DAY.
Oops. Typo on my part. But I will pretend that it was a deliberate error in order to satirize the redundancy of ZOMGFNORD23 pinealist humour.
So nuh.
:D
I'm hating on some Fudge Shoppe Grasshopper cookies.
I hated a whole bag of ginger snaps last night.
I hated yo momma last night.
...and my momma is starting to like it.
:argh!:
FUCK OFF YOU INSENSITIVE ASSHOLES!!
SOMETIMES I MAKE TYPOS BECAUSE I HAVE SEASONAL ALLERGIES.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL FASCISTS
[pops a Claritin]
No...wait...ok...I'm good now.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 11, 2008, 04:16:43 PM
:argh!:
FUCK OFF YOU INSENSITIVE ASSHOLES!!
SOMETIMES I MAKE TYPOS BECAUSE I HAVE SEASONAL ALLERGIES.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL FASCISTS
[pops a Claritin]
No...wait...ok...I'm good now.
ALLERGY BURGERS!!!
Quote from: Mangrove on June 11, 2008, 04:16:43 PM
:argh!:
FUCK OFF YOU INSENSITIVE ASSHOLES!!
SOMETIMES I MAKE TYPOS BECAUSE I HAVE SEASONAL ALLERGIES.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL FASCISTS
[pops a Claritin]
No...wait...ok...I'm good now.
Too late. Payne's latest WOMP has rendered your typo immortal.
Quote from: Cainad on June 12, 2008, 01:04:57 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 11, 2008, 04:16:43 PM
:argh!:
FUCK OFF YOU INSENSITIVE ASSHOLES!!
SOMETIMES I MAKE TYPOS BECAUSE I HAVE SEASONAL ALLERGIES.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL FASCISTS
[pops a Claritin]
No...wait...ok...I'm good now.
Too late. Payne's latest WOMP has rendered your typo immortal.
Your lack of understanding for my medical condition typifies the fascism so prevalent on the internet. :wink:
(http://hodja.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/liberal.jpg)
No, definitely it's not allowed to set one's girl on fire after she cheated on him in Brazil =D
Hello there, by the way =)
Hi rev! what are you working on these days?
How's the Discordian scene in brazil?
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on July 22, 2008, 07:46:10 PM
Hi rev! what are you working on these days?
How's the Discordian scene in brazil?
also, if Prof Cramulus comes to Brazil, will you all give him a Brazilian wax?
Esp that moustache!!!
Bump! So much bump! This thread is like a PD history lesson. Also it involves one of the Brazilians I've been taking to and namedrops the two others.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 07:26:19 PM
Quote from: keeper entropic on June 09, 2008, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Was that on purpose?
No. Just sort of fell out of my head and then I noticed LMNO's post.
Point still stands though.
I remember the time that me and Thornley got drunk & hate a whole box of Twinkies!
\
:gheyforum:
PD.com --> :|
OMG OMG OMG
ORIGIN OF A MEME!!!
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 20, 2012, 05:15:19 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 07:26:19 PM
Quote from: keeper entropic on June 09, 2008, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 05:54:08 PM
"Ivory Tower"?
Did you forget?
We're the "Sandy Vagina" of Discordia.
Quote from: Mangrove on June 09, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
ATTN: Real Discordians (tm) -
If you find iconoclasm troubling, then you've picked the wrong sandbox to play in.
Was that on purpose?
No. Just sort of fell out of my head and then I noticed LMNO's post.
Point still stands though.
I remember the time that me and Thornley got drunk & hate a whole box of Twinkies!
\
:gheyforum:
PD.com --> :|
OMG OMG OMG
ORIGIN OF A MEME!!!
This thread should be put in a glass box to commemorate it.
Y'know, like Vladamir Lenin.
(Obviously i would remove this post first though before you do)
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Reverend Roger January 19, 2003, 08:22:29 PM
http://www.1001gatos.org
What's the list for Hirley0?
... should I be scared that I'm on your list? ... :scared:
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 02, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
What's the list for Hirley0?
... should I be scared that I'm on your list? ... :scared:
A list including Uncle BadTouch, no less.
That blog was dead space last I looked. Now it's an empty word press page. Hopefully it's Cesar again. Still trying to contact him.
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 02, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
What's the list for Hirley0?
... should I be scared that I'm on your list? ... :scared:
i don't know: does green frighten U?
anyway it was my list {thoughts about the quote below
i just took 1 name from each year '07 seams to me to be #1?
i did not find any 10's or 11's ut i didn't look 4Long see next post
I HAVE NO IDEA at this time 9:24?
Quote from: Peterson Silva on September 16, 2007, 07:56:47 PM
Great =D
Who's the older (not in age, but in discordianism) in this forum?
Quote from: Placid Dingo on August 02, 2012, 11:42:26 PM
That blog was dead space last I looked. Now it's an empty word press page. Hopefully it's Cesar again. Still trying to contact him.
My Mind is devided here "devided" | { the spelling seams correct
but both are marked as wrong |check your checker :
Look i do not |dialog ? chat tweet ? converse
i do have a PM that i will now check|B4 i post this Bs ... {maybe
hirley, use a bit of lateral thinking. | yeah?yeaH now i have a page 2 PM
really | WeLL never mind 9:36? {maybe
For those looking for Ibrahim Cesar:
Some time ago, a year or so, I think, I made contact with him so we could make a brazillian discordian book, with texts form several people thrown together around a central theme.
Unfortunately, while he responded me, the project didn't succeed, and ended near its beginning. I still have a text or two.
However, some time ago, I saw a blog post in his other blog, wich seems to be offline now too, about how he was found of the memories of his discordian blog.
Seems like he stopped blogging about discordianism. Too bad. :sad:
Quote from: Mistre on August 10, 2012, 03:08:11 AM
For those looking for Ibrahim Cesar:
Some time ago, a year or so, I think, I made contact with him so we could make a brazillian discordian book, with texts form several people thrown together around a central theme.
Unfortunately, while he responded me, the project didn't succeed, and ended near its beginning. I still have a text or two.
However, some time ago, I saw a blog post in his other blog, wich seems to be offline now too, about how he was found of the memories of his discordian blog.
Seems like he stopped blogging about discordianism. Too bad. :sad:
Thanks Mistre. I'm in contact with Ibrahim via Facebook now. You wouldn't still have the link to that post you mentioned?
I am unable to access his other blog. You can see the beginning of his post when you google ibrahim and 1001gatos (part of the name of his discordian blog, named "1001 cats of schrodinger").
The address of his post was: http://ibrahimcesar.com/1001-gatos-5-anos/
Quote from: Mistre on August 11, 2012, 12:39:52 AM
I am unable to access his other blog. You can see the beginning of his post when you google ibrahim and 1001gatos (part of the name of his discordian blog, named "1001 cats of schrodinger").
The address of his post was: http://ibrahimcesar.com/1001-gatos-5-anos/
Yeah same. Thanks.