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Yes, personal responsibility. That rings a bell. You (Lies) told us that it is a woman's personal responsibility not to get raped because dressing like a slut turns men into rapists.

Because apparently you believe that the difference between a man and a rapist is some revealing clothing.

Once again. Twisting my fucking words into the ground. I never said that. Ever. Quit it with the slander.

Lies, why U mad dogg?

Tell me why U madd.



and just to get to the heart of the matter:

@Lies:  Are you a mysoginyst by this deffinition:

mi·sog·y·ny   
[mi-soj-uh-nee, mahy-]  Show IPA
–noun
hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women.

I'm going just go out on a limb and say YES, you are.   How does that make you feel?

@DopeFiend:  Please just post pics and embarrass the poor bastard.

No, I don't hate women, I just hate Nigel.

Now, I kindly and respectfully ask you to stop making shit up about me before I decide that I should start making shit up about you that isn't true because that just seems to be the way you like to insult people.

Also, Lies, maybe you don't remember it but I am pretty sure you've gone on butthurt post-deleting sprees here.

Please, kindly point them out, please please please please prove what a butthurt crying baby I am and show the world where I go on deleting sprees.

If I have deleted my own stuff in the past, it's almost always immediately after I post it and before (hopefully) anyone gets a chance to read it.
These supposed "sprees" I go on, like all the accusations you accuse me of, are NON EXISTENT and only exist in your fucked up reality.

But please, prove me wrong, show the board what a lying ignorant dumb ass I am.

You called it "common sense", if I can recall. Or maybe "good advice".

The thread you're talking about is on facebook. It's still there, I haven't touched it or deleted anything from it.
Not once, ever, did I say women who dress like "sluts" deserve to be raped. You and Roger took what I said about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and completely drove it into the ground with bullshit and starting saying that's exactly what I was saying.
How you interpret what I'm saying is fucking ridiculous.
What you and roger said that I was saying/thinking is like accusing someone with naked baby photos of being a pedophile.
For. The. Fucking. Record.
I think women can wear whatever the fuck they like, and they should not be judged on it, either by society or the court of law.
I merely and humbly think that what you wear does have an effect on how your environment perceives you.
If this is not true, I dare you to go out and dress like a clown. Then see how hard it is to *not* be stared at.
If you don't like unwanted attention, don't stand out from the crowd.

Please don't even fucking bother trying to say "But this is about rape you misogynistic pig what your saying is different how dare you tell women what to wear bla bla bla", because no,  I don't care what women wear, I'm not telling anyone to wear anything they don't want to wear, I have been only saying, that *in general* there's a level of personal responsibility that *we all*, males and females, have to protect ourselves and our belongings.
I don't think someone who leaves their front door unlocked deserves to get robbed. ffs.

So get fucked.

It's funny, I've poked around and I cannot find his posts here about common sense and how not to get raped. But, they did exist.

The thing about this thread is that nobody's jumping down his throat for making an unfunny joke. They're jumping down his throat for getting all hostile and attacking Dok for not liking his unfunny joke.

For future reference, kids; unfunny racist, sexist jokes are unfunny. You don't get an automatic pass on being a jerk just because "it was only a joke", so don't act all surprised and butthurt when people react to your unfunny racism or sexism as if it was unfunny.

Been trying to hold off on this as long as I can, but, fuck you Nigel, they don't exist, stop insisting on things that DON'T FUCKING EXIST.
And I don't delete anything, I don't believe in deleting shit, all my and others stupidity that is involved with me is on display.
You crazy fucking bat.

BTW I saw this thread right after you posted it and refrained from responding at the time even though I found it instantly TOTALLY fucking unfunny and offensive. And I'm the one with the "ATTN BORED WHITE PEOPLE" thread, remember?

UN FUCKING FUNNY AND OFFENSIVE "JOKE" IS UNFUNNY AND OFFENSIVE.

I have a tip for you: Go post some rape and nigger jokes on Facebook and follow up with "Just kidding". When people are offended, blame them for being thin-skinned.

In a moment of zen clarity, I realise theres no winning with you, because you WANT to be offended, you NEED to get offended at what I say, so there's no point refuting your lunacy.

Fine. You win. I'm going. For real. I'm sick of this shit.
It's clear you don't want me around, Im not going to stick around where I'm not wanted.

Don't worry, I'm gone. And I'll try to choke on a dick on the way out cus I need some money for mo meth.
Cus that's all I am right? A drug addled idiot who makes unfunny jokes ALL THE TIME and is a waste of meatspace and carbon.

-Gone for good.

At what point did you think I was being serious? Was it the part where I called you a made up racial slur that doesnt mean anything? The part where I formed a made up movement called The S.H.I.T? Was it the part in my OP where I pointed out bullshit reasons for being racist? Was it the part where I want to encourage the greenhouse effect to kill you guys off? The part where I said programs for breeding a superior race? The part where I said we're taking all the wealth and giving it to nigerian scam artists?

You taking this so seriously is what bothers me.

And once more, you take things I'm saying, and spit them out of context. I don't think women should dress like nuns you fuck wit.
I mean, fuck you, Im just questioning things, I have thoughts about subjects, and I want peoples opinions.
But you, you always go onto a fucking holy crusade nitpicking and squawking and screeching about how I'm a terrible person for having fucking thoughts that just arent in your way of seeing things.
Seriously man, ffs, seriously, you don't think this whole think isn't one big subtle "Hey, I'm just kidding"?

If you can't take a joke, go fuck yourself.

I was married to a guy who would hurt me, and then "Sorry you can't take a joke, I was only playing around".

Fuck you, Lies. You knew what you were doing. Or else the meth got a few too many brain cells.

Not fucking OK. As people have been telling you for TWO FUCKING DAYS.

NOT FUCKING OK. ASSHOLE. GO DIE IN A FIRE.

Yeah, difference between him and me? I DONT FUCKING HURT PEOPLE YOU ASSUMING BITCH.

Actually, you're right. I think this isn't really funny either.

I just wanted to poke roger for being a bleacher.

And I, sir, will sit back and laugh at you for turning into a racist no different than the teabaggers that we make fun of here.

Sorry to hear your head shrank.

Oh yeah, I'm totally a racist man. Cus you know, having euro-asian background brought up in the most multicultural country in the world*TOTALLY* does that to you.

Heh.

Actually, you're right. I think this isn't really funny either.

I just wanted to poke roger for being a bleacher.

You didn't think it was funny, but you did it to get at me for being white.  No, Lies, I don't think this is some kind of Swiftian rage thing, I think it's you having found a new religion...The same religion Lester Maddox found, come to think of it.

Every 3 months or so, you feel the need to take another run at me.  Each time you do, you INSIST on being a bigger ass than the last few times.  So you'll forgive me if I don't buy your bullshit that this was some form of satire, especially given the fact that you stated that you weren't joking.

Now, fuck off.  I have a limited amount of time on this planet, and I see no reason to waste it on teabaggers, klansmen, or you.

This.

It's not like it isn't painfully obvious to everyone who is forced to witness it. It's ugly, Lies, and it's pathetic.

Ok. Your opinion has been given all the consideration it merits.

No, I'm poking fun at you for taking a made up word that really means nothing too seriously and taking some harmless poking from the other side.
Seriously? You seriously think that I think Im better than you because of arbitary bullshit like skin colour?
No, I think I'm better than you because I can take a fucking joke. You're such a fucking melodramatic queen of drama, I've got some advice for you you crazy old man, try eating a teaspoon of cement and hardening the fuck up.
Geez man, I figured you of all people would go along with the joke, but no, instead, you choose to grossly misinterpret playful friendly jabs as malevolent, direct attacks upon you.
Sure, it was a shit joke in the end, pardon me for fucking trying.
You know what, I'm sorry, I didn't mean what you think.
I don't hate you because you're white, I hate you because you're a fucking grey. There. I said it.
Fuck man, there's just nothing I can do to gain any trust from you, it's like you ENJOY attacking me on baseless and trivial bullshit.
Fuck you if you're just gonna keep doing this. If after all this time, you still don't seem to get that IM NOT YOUR FUCKING ENEMY and HAVE NEVER WANTED TO BE, and all I want is some mutual respect, but I know this is asking a lot from you because I know you've made up your mind about me and don't want to give me a fair go.

Fuck you and the ass you rode in on, Don Quixote

I'm friendly with people I like.  I liked you until your facebook rant about how "if women didn't want to be raped, they wouldn't dress like sluts".  You may have noticed that I haven't bothered fucking with you since then.  There's a reason for that, which I'll get to at the end of this post.

Also, given that and this new arseholism, I won't be getting too upset by you calling me a grey.  It's sort of like having some torture freak call me "anti-American".  It just doesn't have the punch it would have coming from someone with some moral authority on the subject, you know?

Next, when you first called me by a racial epithet and stated that I was somehow responsible for how anyone in Australia was treated, I responded with "This is interesting", and waited for you to state that you were kidding.  Your two responses were to say that you didn't find it to be funny, and to post a new thread about your new radical racism.

So, yeah, I haven't been fucking with you for a while, and I don't imagine I will.  I fuck with friends, and I fuck with enemies...In different ways, of course; in both cases, they are people who are on my radar screen.  As someone who feels women should have to dress like nuns to avoid being rape-bait, and someone who holds me accountable for the actions of people on the other side of the world solely based on my "de-evolutionized" skin color, you simply don't fit the bill.

In short, you don't matter one way or the other.  You are beneath my notice.

I have explained this so that you won't waste any more of your time writing justifications for the unjustifiable.  And it's all I have to say on this subject or any other.  

So, like I said, fuck off.

At what point did you think I was being serious? Was it the part where I called you a made up racial slur that doesnt mean anything? The part where I formed a made up movement called The S.H.I.T? Was it the part in my OP where I pointed out bullshit reasons for being racist? Was it the part where I want to encourage the greenhouse effect to kill you guys off? The part where I said programs for breeding a superior race? The part where I said we're taking all the wealth and giving it to nigerian scam artists?

You taking this so seriously is what bothers me.

And once more, you take things I'm saying, and spit them out of context. I don't think women should dress like nuns you fuck wit.
I mean, fuck you, Im just questioning things, I have thoughts about subjects, and I want peoples opinions.
But you, you always go onto a fucking holy crusade nitpicking and squawking and screeching about how I'm a terrible person for having fucking thoughts that just arent in your way of seeing things.
Seriously man, ffs, seriously, you don't think this whole think isn't one big subtle "Hey, I'm just kidding"?

If you can't take a joke, go fuck yourself.

Actually, you're right. I think this isn't really funny either.

I just wanted to poke roger for being a bleacher.

And I, sir, will sit back and laugh at you for turning into a racist no different than the teabaggers that we make fun of here.

Sorry to hear your head shrank.

Oh yeah, I'm totally a racist man. Cus you know, having euro-asian background brought up in the most multicultural country in the world*TOTALLY* does that to you.

Heh.

Actually, you're right. I think this isn't really funny either.

I just wanted to poke roger for being a bleacher.

You didn't think it was funny, but you did it to get at me for being white.  No, Lies, I don't think this is some kind of Swiftian rage thing, I think it's you having found a new religion...The same religion Lester Maddox found, come to think of it.

Every 3 months or so, you feel the need to take another run at me.  Each time you do, you INSIST on being a bigger ass than the last few times.  So you'll forgive me if I don't buy your bullshit that this was some form of satire, especially given the fact that you stated that you weren't joking.

Now, fuck off.  I have a limited amount of time on this planet, and I see no reason to waste it on teabaggers, klansmen, or you.

No, I'm poking fun at you for taking a made up word that really means nothing too seriously and and not being able to take some harmless poking from the other side.
Seriously? You seriously think that I think Im better than you because of arbitary bullshit like skin colour?
No, I think I'm better than you because I can take a fucking joke. You're such a fucking melodramatic queen of drama, I've got some advice for you you crazy old man, try eating a teaspoon of cement and hardening the fuck up.
Geez man, I figured you of all people would go along with the joke, but no, instead, you choose to grossly misinterpret playful friendly jabs as malevolent, direct attacks upon you.
Sure, it was a shit joke in the end, pardon me for fucking trying.
You know what, I'm sorry, I didn't mean what you think.
I don't hate you because you're white, I hate you because you're a fucking grey. There. I said it.
Fuck man, there's just nothing I can do to gain any trust from you, it's like you ENJOY attacking me on baseless and trivial bullshit.
Fuck you if you're just gonna keep doing this. If after all this time, you still don't seem to get that IM NOT YOUR FUCKING ENEMY and HAVE NEVER WANTED TO BE, and all I want is some mutual respect, but I know this is asking a lot from you because I know you've made up your mind about me and don't want to give me a fair go.

Fuck you and the ass you rode in on, Don Quixote

Incidentally Peter Garrett is now a minister of the enviroment here. And he supports logging mills. 

I suppose you think Jonathan Swift was serious as well huh.

Really?  You're comparing your parody of reverse racism to one of the greatest satirists of all time?

Mighty presumptuous, my good man.

Lets just say, I was kinda trying to channel his spirit.

Just because it doesn't live up to your expectations, doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there, such as myself, who think's it a brilliant parody of what racism is.

Do you seriously think I believe *ANY* of those things I wrote?
Really? At what point do my ramblings suggest I want you to be taking me seriously?
Where the self-depreciating acronyms seem like they would really be an idea you'd want to promote?
IM NOT PROMOTING RACISM HERE GUYS, WHAT I WROTE WAS FUCKING STUPID, IT WAS MEANT TO BE STUPID, CUS THATS ALL RACISM CAN EVER BE, STUPIDITY.

My god, do you really think I use the word bleachers to seriously distinguish you from people I like?
It's just a made up fucking word that meant seating and a chemical wash product, it's NOT A REAL INSULT.
The fact that it's got people like Roger so worked up just drove me to want to push it further. Fuck, it was a throwaway gag that I decided to roll with, and now you all think I'm supporting racism?

Get fucked.
I have aboriginal friends ok, I don't fucking oppress them, I smoke weed with them.
As I do with my bleacher friends.
As I do with my yellow menace asian invasion friends.

Here's my version of people I'd prefer to live with and would separate people I like and don't like with a simple test:
Do you smoke green? Do you care that I do?
Regardless of the first question, if your answer to the second question is a no, then I like you.
If your answer is a yes, I will not want to be around you and would prefer you go somewhere else if it bothers you what I do that doesn't harm anyone else.
Chances are, if you answer yes to the first question, you're generally not a racist because being racist takes effort.
If you say no to the first question, I don't care as long as you don't look down upon me for things that don't get in the way of what you want to do and believe.

You can be muslim, christian, pagan or mexican or european or black or white or blue or purple.
I don't give a fuck, as long as you don't bother me then I won't bother you, and I like people of all different races and creeds, and I also hate people in those races and creeds, as the old chestnut goes, I'm not racist, I hate all people equally.

[I'M HALF BLEACHER]

Honestly, I don't think that Lysergic was trying to offend anyone, obviously since most of us are Bleachers, and I think everyone is part Bleacher at the least (correct me if I'm wrong), but maybe he needed to blow off some steam? Sort of like, tried to go for the lulz, but fell short? I dunno, I'm not a prison colonist.

Also, I thought he was part Native Australian, but he's part Asian?

Twid,
realizing that sometimes being here a year and a half still kinda makes you a noob sometimes....
Also thinks Bleacher sounds funny.

I'm glad to see *someone* around here is able to use their brains.

Here's the big secret: I'M HALF BLEACHER. OH NOES THE SHAME

What's the other half? (genuinely curious at this point)

Also, I am sad to inform you that Americans do actually consider Australia to have a worse problem with racism than we do. FYI.

The other half is filipino.

And I think it's hilarious that Australians consider Americans to be the worst offenders of racism and you guys believe it the other way. The irony is just amazing.

OK.   I am having a hard time believing that you really don't know that Australia is considered the absolute worst of the worst when it comes to treatment of aborigines. As in, movies have been made about it, books have been written, and it's not because of a hideous history, (which is amply shared by the US) it's because the horrible treatment continues to the present day. As, indeed, it also does here, but not to the same ugly degree.

During MY lifetime, Lies, Aboriginal children were still being stolen from their mothers. By the government.

I'm not fucking defending Australia, seriously, I know out history is fucked up. I don't think we're fucking saints. I'm just saying, I find it funny, that if you ask "in general, do you think americans are racist" you'd find people will generally say yes.
And it's the same case from where you are as well.
People are shit, all over.

Yeah, so maybe quit actively perpetuating racism for sport, hey kiddo?

I suppose you think Jonathan Swift was serious as well huh.

[I'M HALF BLEACHER]

Honestly, I don't think that Lysergic was trying to offend anyone, obviously since most of us are Bleachers, and I think everyone is part Bleacher at the least (correct me if I'm wrong), but maybe he needed to blow off some steam? Sort of like, tried to go for the lulz, but fell short? I dunno, I'm not a prison colonist.

Also, I thought he was part Native Australian, but he's part Asian?

Twid,
realizing that sometimes being here a year and a half still kinda makes you a noob sometimes....
Also thinks Bleacher sounds funny.

I'm glad to see *someone* around here is able to use their brains.

Here's the big secret: I'M HALF BLEACHER. OH NOES THE SHAME

What's the other half? (genuinely curious at this point)

Also, I am sad to inform you that Americans do actually consider Australia to have a worse problem with racism than we do. FYI.

The other half is filipino.

And I think it's hilarious that Australians consider Americans to be the worst offenders of racism and you guys believe it the other way. The irony is just amazing.

OK.   I am having a hard time believing that you really don't know that Australia is considered the absolute worst of the worst when it comes to treatment of aborigines. As in, movies have been made about it, books have been written, and it's not because of a hideous history, (which is amply shared by the US) it's because the horrible treatment continues to the present day. As, indeed, it also does here, but not to the same ugly degree.

During MY lifetime, Lies, Aboriginal children were still being stolen from their mothers. By the government.

I'm not fucking defending Australia, seriously, I know out history is fucked up. I don't think we're fucking saints. I'm just saying, I find it funny, that if you ask "in general, do you think americans are racist" you'd find people will generally say yes.
And it's the same case from where you are as well.
People are shit, all over.