The 99 + 1 Attributes of Allah
1 Allah (الله) (The) God
2 Ar-Rahman (الرحمن) The All Beneficent
3 Ar-Rahim (الرحيم) The Most Merciful
4 Al-Malik (الملك) The King, The Sovereign
5 Al-Quddus (القدوس) The Most Holy
6 As-Salam (السلام) The Peace and Blessing
7 Al-Mu'min (المؤمن) The Guarantor
8 Al-Muhaymin (المهيمن) The Guardian, The Preserver
9 Al-Aziz (العزيز) The Almighty, The Self Sufficient
10 Al-Jabbar (الجبار) The Powerful, The Irresistible
11 Al-Mutakabbir (المتكبر) The Tremendous
12 Al-Khaliq (الخالق) The Creator
13 Al-Bari' (البارئ) The Maker
14 Al-Musawwir (المصور) The Fashioner of Forms
15 Al-Ghaffar (الغفار) The Ever Forgiving
16 Al-Qahhar (القهار) The All Compelling Subduer
17 Al-Wahhab (الوهاب) The Bestower
18 Ar-Razzaq (الرزاق) The Ever Providing
19 Al-Fattah (الفتاح) The Opener, The Victory Giver
20 Al-`Alim (العليم) The All Knowing, The Omniscient
21 Al-Qabid (القابض) The Restrainer, The Straightener
22 Al-Basit (الباسط) The Expander, The Munificent
23 Al-Khafid (الخافض) The Abaser
24 Ar-Rafi (الرافع) The Exalter
25 Al-Mu'izz (المعز) The Giver of Honour
26 Al-Mudhill (المذل) The Giver of Dishonour
27 As-Sami (السميع) The All Hearing
28 Al-Basir (البصير) The All Seeing
29 Al-Hakam (الحكم) The Judge, The Arbitrator
30 Al-`Adl (العدل) The Utterly Just
31 Al-Latif (اللطيف) The Subtly Kind
32 Al-Khabir (الخبير) The All Aware
33 Al-Halim (الحليم) The Forbearing, The Indulgent
34 Al-Azim (العظيم) The Magnificent, The Infinite
35 Al-Ghafur (الغفور) The All Forgiving
36 Ash-Shakur (الشكور) The Grateful
37 Al-Ali (العلى) The Sublimely Exalted
38 Al-Kabir (الكبير) The Great
39 Al-Hafiz (الحفيظ) The Preserver
40 Al-Muqit (المقيت) The Nourisher
41 Al-Hasib (الحسيب) The Reckoner
42 Al-Jalil (الجليل) The Majestic
43 Al-Karim (الكريم) The Bountiful, The Generous
44 Ar-Raqib (الرقيب) The Watchful
45 Al-Mujib (المجيب) The Responsive, The Answerer
46 Al-Wasi (الواسع) The Vast, The All Encompassing
47 Al-Hakim (الحكيم) The Wise
48 Al-Wadud (الودود) The Loving, The Kind One
49 Al-Majid (المجيد) The All Glorious
50 Al-Ba'ith (الباعث) The Raiser of The Dead
51 Ash-Shahid (الشهيد) The Witness
52 Al-Haqq (الحق) The Truth, The Real
53 Al-Wakil (الوكيل) The Trustee, The Dependable
54 Al-Qawiyy (القوى) The Strong
55 Al-Matin (المتين) The Firm, The Steadfast
56 Al-Waliyy (الولى) The Protecting Friend, Patron and Helper
57 Al-Hamid (الحميد) The All Praiseworthy
58 Al-Muhsi (المحصى) The Accounter, The Numberer of All
59 Al-Mubdi' (المبدئ) The Producer, Originator, and Initiator of all
60 Al-Mu'id (المعيد) The Reinstater Who Brings Back All
61 Al-Muhyi (المحيى) The Giver of Life
62 Al-Mumit (المميت) The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer
63 Al-Hayy (الحي) The Ever Living
64 Al-Qayyum (القيوم) The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All
65 Al-Wajid (الواجد) The Perceiver, The Finder, The Unfailing
66 Al-Majid (الماجد) The Illustrious, The Magnificent
67 Al-Wahid (الواحد) The One, the All Inclusive, The Indivisible
68 As-Samad (الصمد) The Self Sufficient, The Impregnable, The Eternally Besought of All, The Everlasting
69 Al-Qadir (القادر) The All Able
70 Al-Muqtadir (المقتدر) The All Determiner, The Dominant
71 Al-Muqaddim (المقدم) The Expediter, He Who Brings Forward
72 Al-Mu'akhkhir (المؤخر) The Delayer, He Who Puts Far Away
73 Al-Awwal (الأول) The First
74 Al-Akhir (الأخر) The Last
75 Az-Zahir (الظاهر) The Manifest, The All Victorious
76 Al-Batin (الباطن) The Hidden, The All Encompassing
77 Al-Wali (الوالي) The Patron
78 Al-Muta'ali (المتعالي) The Self Exalted
79 Al-Barr (البر) The Most Kind and Righteous
80 At-Tawwab (التواب) The Ever Returning, Ever Relenting
81 Al-Muntaqim (المنتقم) The Avenger
82 Al-'Afuww (العفو) The Pardoner, The Effacer of Sins
83 Ar-Ra'uf (الرؤوف) The Compassionate, The All Pitying
84 Malik-al-Mulk (مالك الملك) The Owner of All Sovereignty
85 Dhu-al-Jalal wa-al-Ikram (ذو الجلال و الإكرام) The Lord of Majesty and Generosity
86 Al-Muqsit (المقسط) The Equitable, The Requiter
87 Al-Jami' (الجامع) The Gatherer, The Unifier
88 Al-Ghani (الغنى) The All Rich, The Independent
89 Al-Mughni (المغنى) The Enricher, The Emancipator
90 Al-Mani'(المانع) The Withholder, The Shielder, the Defender
91 Ad-Darr (الضار) The Distressor, The Harmer
92 An-Nafi' (النافع) The Propitious, The Benefactor
93 An-Nur (النور) The Light
94 Al-Hadi (الهادي) The Guide
95 Al-Badi (البديع) The Incomparable, The Originator
96 Al-Baqi (الباقي) The Ever Enduring and Immutable
97 Al-Warith (الوارث) The Heir, The Inheritor of All
98 Ar-Rashid (الرشيد) The Guide, Infallible Teacher and Knower
99 As-Sabur (الصبور) The Patient, The Timeless
+1 Unnameable, Undefinable
dont sell yourself short
salvaged from a different thread
a exaggerated bump
A more righteous bump, due to leaving all the other dross behind from that thread.
I concur with Payne.
I always liked this post. I think it's good to be bumped.
I would like to figure out some way to incorporate it into my compilation, but without it seeming like the only particularly partisan religious bit in there, if you will. If anyone has suggestions on how to do that, I'm open. I think I could make it work as is, or just with a touch of tweaking or intro or some such, but I'd like to hear ideas as well.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 05, 2007, 08:15:02 PM
I concur with Payne.
I always liked this post. I think it's good to be bumped.
I would like to figure out some way to incorporate it into my compilation, but without it seeming like the only particularly partisan religious bit in there, if you will. If anyone has suggestions on how to do that, I'm open. I think I could make it work as is, or just with a touch of tweaking or intro or some such, but I'd like to hear ideas as well.
The only thing that makes it seem like religious partisanship (to anyone NOT a muslim, at least) is the fact it's called the attributes of Allah, and the arabic.
Take those out, and you're set.
Quote from: Payne on July 05, 2007, 08:17:56 PM
The only thing that makes it seem like religious partisanship (to anyone NOT a muslim, at least) is the fact it's called the attributes of Allah, and the arabic.
Take those out, and you're set.
I'm in process of reading BIP, so forgive any utterly inane questions ... however, is there any intention in the BIP project to incorporate a mythological "wrapper" to encompass the message? Like the ancient Greek stories were used (with immense creative liberty) to portray the original PD?
If this is the case, is there any discussion on using the grounds of both Xtianity and Islam as that wrapper? These being the most prevelant religious topics of the day. They both decend from the same base, so perhaps a psuedo-mythology concocted from their shared history.
1. what's so great about this allah list? i don't get it?
2. forteetu: mythological wrapper, yes. basing it on xtianity and islam .. i'm not so sure, but on the other hand, it would reach a lot of people that way, fuck with xtianity and islam, and i just don't like it but that may be something that needs to be shaken loose in myself.
Quote from: triple zero on July 06, 2007, 09:45:42 AM
1. what's so great about this allah list? i don't get it?
1. the length
2. the existence of seemingly contradictory claims describing the same element
3. the fact that they are all human attributes as well
come on man
be creative
i wasn't dismissing the list or anything, i just genuinely wondered what the point of posting it was. thanks for your answer :)
peace
Quote from: Forteetu on July 06, 2007, 04:23:50 AM
Quote from: Payne on July 05, 2007, 08:17:56 PM
The only thing that makes it seem like religious partisanship (to anyone NOT a muslim, at least) is the fact it's called the attributes of Allah, and the arabic.
Take those out, and you're set.
I'm in process of reading BIP, so forgive any utterly inane questions ... however, is there any intention in the BIP project to incorporate a mythological "wrapper" to encompass the message? Like the ancient Greek stories were used (with immense creative liberty) to portray the original PD?
If this is the case, is there any discussion on using the grounds of both Xtianity and Islam as that wrapper? These being the most prevelant religious topics of the day. They both decend from the same base, so perhaps a psuedo-mythology concocted from their shared history.
So far, no. It has been shown elsewhere that the BIP metaphor is somewhat like a META-phor, in that it encompasses many other things. If well-understood, a person can get behind the BIP metaphor while being a Jew, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, or whatever.
The difference is, they're usually not funamentally fanatical about it, as the BIP shows that their religion is simply the way a certain part of their cell is shaped.
Quote from: triple zero on July 06, 2007, 09:45:42 AM
2. forteetu: mythological wrapper, yes. basing it on xtianity and islam .. i'm not so sure, but on the other hand, it would reach a lot of people that way, fuck with xtianity and islam, and i just don't like it but that may be something that needs to be shaken loose in myself.
Well, the idea that springs to mind is a fictionalised mythology with a basis in the early history of judeo-christianity and islam. They are all decended from the same lineage anyway
and as for shaking loose, i relate ... baptised a catholic, christian school upbringing ... :evil: took time to deprogram all that shit, still finding more and more as I go along
Quote from: LMNO on July 06, 2007, 01:15:33 PM
So far, no. It has been shown elsewhere that the BIP metaphor is somewhat like a META-phor, in that it encompasses many other things. If well-understood, a person can get behind the BIP metaphor while being a Jew, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, or whatever.
Agreed and using the PD as a reference, I think the inclusion of a mythology which spread across multiple cultures, the 5 apostles, worked in much the same fashion.
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The difference is, they're usually not funamentally fanatical about it, as the BIP shows that their religion is simply the way a certain part of their cell is shaped.
Yes, I get this message very clearly from what I have read of the BIP so far.
Agreed. However, I don't think we should build a mythos into the BIP, because then one would have to buy into the mythos in order to buy into BIP. And selling BIP is hard enough as it is.
Quote from: LHX on July 05, 2007, 08:04:00 PM
The 99 + 1 Attributes of Allah
1 Allah (الله) (The) God
2 Ar-Rahman (الرحمن) The All Beneficent
3 Ar-Rahim (الرحيم) The Most Merciful
4 Al-Malik (الملك) The King, The Sovereign
5 Al-Quddus (القدوس) The Most Holy
6 As-Salam (السلام) The Peace and Blessing
7 Al-Mu'min (المؤمن) The Guarantor
8 Al-Muhaymin (المهيمن) The Guardian, The Preserver
9 Al-Aziz (العزيز) The Almighty, The Self Sufficient
10 Al-Jabbar (الجبار) The Powerful, The Irresistible
11 Al-Mutakabbir (المتكبر) The Tremendous
12 Al-Khaliq (الخالق) The Creator
13 Al-Bari' (البارئ) The Maker
14 Al-Musawwir (المصور) The Fashioner of Forms
15 Al-Ghaffar (الغفار) The Ever Forgiving
16 Al-Qahhar (القهار) The All Compelling Subduer
17 Al-Wahhab (الوهاب) The Bestower
18 Ar-Razzaq (الرزاق) The Ever Providing
19 Al-Fattah (الفتاح) The Opener, The Victory Giver
20 Al-`Alim (العليم) The All Knowing, The Omniscient
21 Al-Qabid (القابض) The Restrainer, The Straightener
22 Al-Basit (الباسط) The Expander, The Munificent
23 Al-Khafid (الخافض) The Abaser
24 Ar-Rafi (الرافع) The Exalter
25 Al-Mu'izz (المعز) The Giver of Honour
26 Al-Mudhill (المذل) The Giver of Dishonour
27 As-Sami (السميع) The All Hearing
28 Al-Basir (البصير) The All Seeing
29 Al-Hakam (الحكم) The Judge, The Arbitrator
30 Al-`Adl (العدل) The Utterly Just
31 Al-Latif (اللطيف) The Subtly Kind
32 Al-Khabir (الخبير) The All Aware
33 Al-Halim (الحليم) The Forbearing, The Indulgent
34 Al-Azim (العظيم) The Magnificent, The Infinite
35 Al-Ghafur (الغفور) The All Forgiving
36 Ash-Shakur (الشكور) The Grateful
37 Al-Ali (العلى) The Sublimely Exalted
38 Al-Kabir (الكبير) The Great
39 Al-Hafiz (الحفيظ) The Preserver
40 Al-Muqit (المقيت) The Nourisher
41 Al-Hasib (الحسيب) The Reckoner
42 Al-Jalil (الجليل) The Majestic
43 Al-Karim (الكريم) The Bountiful, The Generous
44 Ar-Raqib (الرقيب) The Watchful
45 Al-Mujib (المجيب) The Responsive, The Answerer
46 Al-Wasi (الواسع) The Vast, The All Encompassing
47 Al-Hakim (الحكيم) The Wise
48 Al-Wadud (الودود) The Loving, The Kind One
49 Al-Majid (المجيد) The All Glorious
50 Al-Ba'ith (الباعث) The Raiser of The Dead
51 Ash-Shahid (الشهيد) The Witness
52 Al-Haqq (الحق) The Truth, The Real
53 Al-Wakil (الوكيل) The Trustee, The Dependable
54 Al-Qawiyy (القوى) The Strong
55 Al-Matin (المتين) The Firm, The Steadfast
56 Al-Waliyy (الولى) The Protecting Friend, Patron and Helper
57 Al-Hamid (الحميد) The All Praiseworthy
58 Al-Muhsi (المحصى) The Accounter, The Numberer of All
59 Al-Mubdi' (المبدئ) The Producer, Originator, and Initiator of all
60 Al-Mu'id (المعيد) The Reinstater Who Brings Back All
61 Al-Muhyi (المحيى) The Giver of Life
62 Al-Mumit (المميت) The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer
63 Al-Hayy (الحي) The Ever Living
64 Al-Qayyum (القيوم) The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All
65 Al-Wajid (الواجد) The Perceiver, The Finder, The Unfailing
66 Al-Majid (الماجد) The Illustrious, The Magnificent
67 Al-Wahid (الواحد) The One, the All Inclusive, The Indivisible
68 As-Samad (الصمد) The Self Sufficient, The Impregnable, The Eternally Besought of All, The Everlasting
69 Al-Qadir (القادر) The All Able
70 Al-Muqtadir (المقتدر) The All Determiner, The Dominant
71 Al-Muqaddim (المقدم) The Expediter, He Who Brings Forward
72 Al-Mu'akhkhir (المؤخر) The Delayer, He Who Puts Far Away
73 Al-Awwal (الأول) The First
74 Al-Akhir (الأخر) The Last
75 Az-Zahir (الظاهر) The Manifest, The All Victorious
76 Al-Batin (الباطن) The Hidden, The All Encompassing
77 Al-Wali (الوالي) The Patron
78 Al-Muta'ali (المتعالي) The Self Exalted
79 Al-Barr (البر) The Most Kind and Righteous
80 At-Tawwab (التواب) The Ever Returning, Ever Relenting
81 Al-Muntaqim (المنتقم) The Avenger
82 Al-'Afuww (العفو) The Pardoner, The Effacer of Sins
83 Ar-Ra'uf (الرؤوف) The Compassionate, The All Pitying
84 Malik-al-Mulk (مالك الملك) The Owner of All Sovereignty
85 Dhu-al-Jalal wa-al-Ikram (ذو الجلال و الإكرام) The Lord of Majesty and Generosity
86 Al-Muqsit (المقسط) The Equitable, The Requiter
87 Al-Jami' (الجامع) The Gatherer, The Unifier
88 Al-Ghani (الغنى) The All Rich, The Independent
89 Al-Mughni (المغنى) The Enricher, The Emancipator
90 Al-Mani'(المانع) The Withholder, The Shielder, the Defender
91 Ad-Darr (الضار) The Distressor, The Harmer
92 An-Nafi' (النافع) The Propitious, The Benefactor
93 An-Nur (النور) The Light
94 Al-Hadi (الهادي) The Guide
95 Al-Badi (البديع) The Incomparable, The Originator
96 Al-Baqi (الباقي) The Ever Enduring and Immutable
97 Al-Warith (الوارث) The Heir, The Inheritor of All
98 Ar-Rashid (الرشيد) The Guide, Infallible Teacher and Knower
99 As-Sabur (الصبور) The Patient, The Timeless
+1 Unnameable, Undefinable
dont sell yourself short
salvaged from a different thread
a exaggerated bump
It must suck having to label all of Allah's stuff.
Quote from: LMNO on July 06, 2007, 02:47:04 PM
Agreed. However, I don't think we should build a mythos into the BIP, because then one would have to buy into the mythos in order to buy into BIP. And selling BIP is hard enough as it is.
I disagree. If you make it transparent enough one wouldn't really have to buy into it.
Also it could come in later so that the reader would already have a sense of what is going on. But then again I am sleep deprived and need a smoke break
Quote from: rzasthole on July 13, 2007, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: LMNO on July 06, 2007, 02:47:04 PM
Agreed. However, I don't think we should build a mythos into the BIP, because then one would have to buy into the mythos in order to buy into BIP. And selling BIP is hard enough as it is.
I disagree. If you make it transparent enough one wouldn't really have to buy into it.
Also it could come in later so that the reader would already have a sense of what is going on. But then again I am sleep deprived and need a smoke break
Rza, I cordially invite you to put pen to paper and introduce mythos to the BIP. Good luck.
you forgot Al-Akshah-bin-Fukeet (ضارضار) - Prolific Guider of IEDs.
Al-Go-splodey - the driver of car bombs
Al-Maka-Racket - The roarer of incomprehensible crap from the top of ziggurats
Al-Wer-sillyhatz - The bringer of turbans
Al-Ban-maekup - the hater of women
Fuck Allah - he's every bit the paedophile jesus was
Al-Is-One-Liekwhoa - is actually a mushroom.
Quote from: SillyCybin on July 15, 2007, 06:37:39 PM
Al-Go-splodey - the driver of car bombs
Al-Maka-Racket - The roarer of incomprehensible crap from the top of ziggurats
Al-Wer-sillyhatz - The bringer of turbans
Al-Ban-maekup - the hater of women
Fuck Allah - he's every bit the paedophile jesus was
you tell em
go try and flood the pacific while youre at it
they wont listen - they're programmed not to
but they are programmed to get really ranty and mad when I mention it
who could resist that?
who is programmed not to?
listen to what?
Who? Faithfools - Turbaniacs and Zombie flesh eaters especially
Listen to what? Listen to me dissing their imaginary friends
i dont think the list in the OP is from conventional islam
you cant flip to page xyz in the koran and find a list of the big boy's attributes
It may be in the Hadith. Or possibly a Sufi thing.
from wikipedia:
QuoteOnce again, the Hadith about the names of God says:
"Verily, there are ninety-nine names of God, one hundred minus one. He who enumerates them would get into Paradise."
(Sahih Muslim, Vol. 4, no. 1410)
Cain on the money ITT
To be honest though, it was not really that great a leap of faith. Only the Koran and Hadith have near universal acceptance as core texts.