Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Cainad (dec.) on December 04, 2014, 12:37:17 PM

Title: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 04, 2014, 12:37:17 PM
Except for the guys who can actually bust into your house and/or kill you if they have a good enough story for the judge and jury.

I'm going to try re-framing the discussion about police brutality by referring to cops as the government. Because, you know, they are.

Since government is terrible and badwrong about everything, this should provide "interesting discussion" on the center of reasonable discussion that is Facebook.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 04, 2014, 12:47:35 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tU9wWUxqV9o/VIBoPvyYbQI/AAAAAAAABag/ZtHVB05mkC0/w448-h138-no/Big%2BGovernment%2BPolice.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 04, 2014, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 04, 2014, 12:47:35 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tU9wWUxqV9o/VIBoPvyYbQI/AAAAAAAABag/ZtHVB05mkC0/w448-h138-no/Big%2BGovernment%2BPolice.jpg)

:mittens:

I'm going to try very hard to push the "government should be held accountable" meme in these kinds of arguments. I'd like to see others try it too, and report any interesting results.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 04, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
If you give me slogans, I can make dozens of these, easily.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 04, 2014, 03:27:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 04, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
If you give me slogans, I can make dozens of these, easily.

Unrelated, but please please please make me an Obama/Bieber 2016 one.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 04, 2014, 03:29:48 PM
Hmm.  Gotta think of a catchphrase.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 04, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
In the meantime...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Rhu1DBNOeVg/VICO1myhsmI/AAAAAAAABc8/p_JSGsxAXFs/w450-h141-no/OBAMA%2BBEIBER%2B2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 04, 2014, 03:46:12 PM
Taxation is Theft
Policing is Murder
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 04, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pcJD8xYJCfo/VICUhyn17lI/AAAAAAAABdQ/G4J3oPJ_0o4/w450-h141-no/Taxation%2Bis%2Btheft%2Bpolicing%2Bis%2Bmurder.png)
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 04, 2014, 04:00:52 PM
So, the problem with getting this adopted is the BIG GOVERNMENT IS BAD crowd is almost always the same crowd that is pro death penalty. The Rugged Individualist thing and all the Calvinist heritage gets them to the point where if you did bad things YOU DESERVE TO DIE and if they do bad things (special pleading). They've been doing those intellectual gymnastics so long it will be very hard to even convince them to think about it.

Might get a giggle, though.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2014, 05:26:28 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 04, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
In the meantime...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Rhu1DBNOeVg/VICO1myhsmI/AAAAAAAABc8/p_JSGsxAXFs/w450-h141-no/OBAMA%2BBEIBER%2B2016.jpg)

I LOVE YOU YOU ARE MY HERO!!!
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2014, 05:27:42 AM
ALTHOUGH IF YOU COULD REDO IT TO SPELL BIEBER WITH AN "IE" THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2014, 09:55:40 AM
I would just like to point out, a lot of libertarians already accept these points.

However, they're using it to agitate for the privatization of police services.

In the current American context, I see that outcome being far more likely than police reform.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on December 05, 2014, 03:26:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 05, 2014, 09:55:40 AM
I would just like to point out, a lot of libertarians already accept these points.

However, they're using it to agitate for the privatization of police services.

In the current American context, I see that outcome being far more likely than police reform.

The argument being that citizens can at least sue private police...

...the reality being that private police will inevitably end up with the same favorable presumptions and indemnities as the old fashioned public kind.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 05, 2014, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2014, 05:27:42 AM
ALTHOUGH IF YOU COULD REDO IT TO SPELL BIEBER WITH AN "IE" THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.

WHOOPS.  MONDAY.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2014, 09:16:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 05, 2014, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2014, 05:27:42 AM
ALTHOUGH IF YOU COULD REDO IT TO SPELL BIEBER WITH AN "IE" THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.

WHOOPS.  MONDAY.

Ain't anybody gonna judge you for not knowing how to spell Bieber.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 05, 2014, 09:26:32 PM
Ha!
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 08, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
What on earth are you going to use it for?




Wait, I'm not sure I want to know.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 08, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
BIEBERKRIEG
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 08, 2014, 07:12:39 PM
 :baby:

:ahhh:

:cpd:

:remaincalm:
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 08, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
BIEBERKRIEG

:lulz:
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 08, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 08, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
BIEBERKRIEG

:lulz:

France thought the LAST time around was bad...
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!

I don't get this joke.  Obama can't be president again, and Bieber is both 1)  too young and 2) Canadian by birth.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!

I don't get this joke.  Obama can't be president again, and Bieber is both 1)  too young and 2) Canadian by birth.

But that's WHY it's funny.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 04:31:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!

I don't get this joke.  Obama can't be president again, and Bieber is both 1)  too young and 2) Canadian by birth.

But that's WHY it's funny.

It makes no sense.  It would be funnier if it were someone eligible.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 14, 2014, 07:33:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 04:31:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!

I don't get this joke.  Obama can't be president again, and Bieber is both 1)  too young and 2) Canadian by birth.

But that's WHY it's funny.

It makes no sense.  It would be funnier if it were someone eligible.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 14, 2014, 07:35:06 PM
That reminds me, I am thinking that a viable avenue of research might be the autistic sense of humor.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: LMNO on December 15, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 04:31:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!

I don't get this joke.  Obama can't be president again, and Bieber is both 1)  too young and 2) Canadian by birth.

But that's WHY it's funny.

It makes no sense.  It would be funnier if it were someone eligible.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rFAekeDyK7E/VI7g-UhmixI/AAAAAAAABkU/KyitXupm0pg/w451-h140-no/Nixon%2B2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 15, 2014, 01:14:44 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 15, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 04:31:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!

I don't get this joke.  Obama can't be president again, and Bieber is both 1)  too young and 2) Canadian by birth.

But that's WHY it's funny.

It makes no sense.  It would be funnier if it were someone eligible.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rFAekeDyK7E/VI7g-UhmixI/AAAAAAAABkU/KyitXupm0pg/w451-h140-no/Nixon%2B2016.jpg)

:mittens:
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 15, 2014, 02:37:04 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 15, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 04:31:17 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 12:04:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ql1-DdjEbM/VIXVDjesOhI/AAAAAAAABhI/irJHKQ7Hob0/w450-h139-no/OBAMA%2BBIEBER%2B2016.jpg)

As promised.

SQUEEEEE!

Thank you, LMNO!!!

I don't get this joke.  Obama can't be president again, and Bieber is both 1)  too young and 2) Canadian by birth.

But that's WHY it's funny.

It makes no sense.  It would be funnier if it were someone eligible.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rFAekeDyK7E/VI7g-UhmixI/AAAAAAAABkU/KyitXupm0pg/w451-h140-no/Nixon%2B2016.jpg)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Cain on December 15, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
Well, Obama's sorta like Nixon.  If Nixon had a tan.  And became really rightwing.  And less competent.
Title: Re: Big Government is bad! Government overreach is bad!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 16, 2014, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 15, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
Well, Obama's sorta like Nixon.  If Nixon had a tan.  And became really rightwing.  And less competent.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: