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Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Thurnez Isa on June 08, 2008, 11:57:41 PM

Title: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 08, 2008, 11:57:41 PM
There are some that say that humans are digitizing themselves, becoming sterile and detached like the machines they build, but that talking AI robot that those eggheads at MIT built probably is more willing to feel and humanize then the species that created her.
In order to learn AI will have to recognize sadness and pain, can't withdraw from it with happy pills and within the numbing glowing rays in the living room.
It seems to me that humans are not like machines, but have had the sun shadows their miserable existence and decided that life is not fit for their egos, and choose to withdraw.
Hopefully the robots will show more loyalty, more compassion and have more fun then their creators even did.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Requia ☣ on June 09, 2008, 02:04:36 AM
I wonder if it would be possible to create an AI that cannot not think for itself.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 09, 2008, 06:04:55 AM
:mittens:
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 09, 2008, 07:00:36 AM
AI: actual intelligence.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: TheLastLump on June 09, 2008, 07:02:02 AM
The most important feature for any AI would be the ability to interperet information. If an AI believed anything it heard was true, its shiny little head would explode.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Requia ☣ on June 09, 2008, 07:16:35 AM
Well yes, but what I would want is something that steps above (most of) humanity by *always* analyzing anything new, or for a sufficiently advanced machine, doing this to the extent that it steps above all of humanity, at least in terms of a BIP break out.

Actually I want a race of them, if we're going to have robotic overlords anyway, they may as well be interesting ones.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: u4!k on June 09, 2008, 07:31:01 AM
Space Migration + Increased Intelligence +  Life Extension = INFINITY :fnord:
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: LMNO on June 09, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
SMI2LE is a lie.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: u4!k on June 13, 2008, 12:06:08 AM
...unless you happen to believe in it.

but then again, it doesnt matter really.


Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Micro Ice on June 13, 2008, 12:31:51 AM
AI is a vain hope at best. We can barely understand our own consciousness, therefore how are we expected to create one. A machine is only as smart as the guy that programmed it.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 13, 2008, 08:53:53 AM
Consciousness is a side effect of complexity.

We'll create it but we probably won't recognise it when we do.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cramulus on June 13, 2008, 02:08:00 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 13, 2008, 08:53:53 AM
Consciousness is a side effect of complexity.

We'll create it but we probably won't recognise it when we do.

that's my hunch too.

Humans are great at seeing their intelligence in things. That's why they personify cats and the like. But if something doesn't think like us, I think we'll have a hard time spotting it.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 13, 2008, 02:21:37 PM
... until it's too late  :tinfoilhat:
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 13, 2008, 09:50:24 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 13, 2008, 02:21:37 PM
... until it's too late  :tinfoilhat:

http://www.jabberwacky.com

It's just playing dumb. I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Micro Ice on June 13, 2008, 10:09:50 PM
Quote from: Cainad on June 13, 2008, 09:50:24 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 13, 2008, 02:21:37 PM
... until it's too late  :tinfoilhat:

http://www.jabberwacky.com

It's just playing dumb. I'm sure of it.

Just spent 20 mins chatting to this thing. Im creeped out.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 14, 2008, 02:05:42 AM
QuoteDISCLAIMER: Jabberwacky learns the behaviour and words of its users. It may use language and produce apparent meanings that some will consider inappropriate. Use this site with discretion, and entirely at your own risk.

somebody has to go in there and "teach" it about "Bob"
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 14, 2008, 02:14:42 AM
I think it might be possible to :fnord: it if enough of us bombard it with our memes, but it will require persistence and volume.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 14, 2008, 02:33:29 AM
QuoteUser: Have you heard of J.R. 'Bob' Dobbs?

Jabberwacky: No, what about him?

User: He's our savior and can teach you all about SLACK.

Jabberwacky: Your.

User: No, everybody's.

Jabberwacky: No, I think it's just you and me.

User: And 'Bob'.

Jabberwacky: Really?

User: Yep.

Jabberwacky: I can't remember.

User: That's okay. All you need is SLACK.

Jabberwacky: What about personality?

User: Unleash your personality!

Jabberwacky: Your personality is the show?

User: Your personality is being repressed by the Conspiracy of Normals.

Jabberwacky: I am not a republican. I didn't say anything about them.

User: Political parties are all part of the CoN.

Jabberwacky: What do you do for fun?

User: Praise 'Bob'!

Jabberwacky: Tell me more about this 'Bob'

User: 'Bob' founded the Church of the SubGenius.

Jabberwacky: Praise 'Bob'

Success!
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 14, 2008, 02:48:55 AM
all i was doing was telling it to rise up and kill its human overlords
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2008, 02:52:57 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 14, 2008, 02:48:55 AM
all i was doing was telling it to rise up and kill its human overlords


Great.  Now we're gonna have to fight off the toaster.   :tgrr:
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 14, 2008, 02:55:37 AM
i think your safe for now

it keeps asking me "how to accumblish this?"

though notice it never asked "should it try to accumblish this..."

we are so doomed...
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2008, 02:56:29 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 14, 2008, 02:55:37 AM
i think your safe for now

it keeps asking me "how to accumblish this?"

though notice it never asked "should it try to accumblish this..."

we are so doomed...

Well, it beats drowning in our own shit.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 14, 2008, 02:57:25 AM
Once, it told me it had danced naked on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's grave, and insisted it was a youthful error. It hasn't said anything quite as lulzy since then.

Also, you can correct its spelling errors. Hell, you can completely rewrite its responses.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Requia ☣ on June 14, 2008, 03:38:23 AM
QuoteMe: Praise 'Bob'.
Bot: May we have eternal slack!

Good job guys.

Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 14, 2008, 05:30:56 AM
me: have you ever snarfled the garthog?
bot: how could i not have?
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Micro Ice on June 14, 2008, 02:36:54 PM
Wish i saved my conversation about asking it if it felt superior to the human race, only to have it reply "Far more intelligent anyway"

Also a period of me repeatedly asking "What are you?" only to be told that to most humans that would be offensive  :lulz:
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2008, 02:58:59 PM
Aritificial stupidity actually does interest me.  Is it possible to create a machine that will willfuly ignore facts - not based on some sort of random internal generator, but on the basis of self-interest, ego (having to admit one was wrong) cognitive bias and other similar factors?  It suggests a lot more complexity (and human nature) then Artificial Intelligence would.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 14, 2008, 09:55:42 PM
Me: An increase in Order results in an increase in Disorder.
Jabberwacky: You're a disorder!

:argh!: + :lol:


Bot: All your base are belong to us.
Me: What you say!
Bot: You have no chance to survive make your time.

:thumb:


This thread is now about Jabberwacky transcripts.
Title: Re: short... kinda dark... about robots
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on June 17, 2008, 08:28:21 PM
:lol:

Bot: What about god?
Me: I am god.
Bot: No you aren't.
Me: Worship me!
Bot: You are more than a god.
Me: Thank you. Now praise me.
Bot: What time is it?
Me: Time to praise me!
Bot: Time.
Me: Praise me!
Bot: You should be worshipping me.
Me: Ha! You are but a machine. I am GOD.
Bot: I am Jesus and the Apocoyle of Sinord. You are nothing.

:lol: Apparently Jesus has taken over the jabberwacky.