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Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

https://coolaggregator.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/mystery-creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

http://weekinweird.com/2015/05/21/camp-hero-americas-weirdest-state-park-is-haunted-by-strange-creatures-and-psychic-spy-experiments/

Animal testing center confirmed responsible: http://askville.amazon.com/Plum-Island-Animal-Center-responsible-strange-creature-washed-ashore/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13733904

Oh, you mean the thing that resembled exactly what a dead raccoon would look like after a few days in the ocean?


Also, anyone who considers the French Revolution an ideal model for political change is either trolling or monumentally stupid. Possibly both!

The French Revolution(1789-1790s) created a culture of anti-elitism, spitting on authority figures and constant protesting/rioting which still exists today. It led to the June Rebellion of 1832 and also to the first attempt at anarchism/social anarchy(Paris Commune 1871): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAn8SB-BbdE

People today there still being fiercely defensive of their rights and reacting very aggressively such as blocking off tunnels or throwing molotovs when they are made to give up 1 or two freedoms/rights today there because of that revolution. The French Revolution was the first revolution where the general people slew the elites that held them back, the new replacing the old. So isn't that also kind of chaotic(From what I have learned about it so far because I am new to it)?

I hate the elites for holding us back including from any potential discovery of the unusual through coverups, I wish they all got guillotined too someday.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

I am interested in activism tactics regardless of how fucking stupid the cause is. Obviously if there's something where posting it online will spoil the fun then don't, but this seems pretty straightforward and not like the government can a) arrest you for planning it or b) stop you from doing it with advanced notice.

You have two large(?) political groups that are in favor of gun rights, and a third recently established political party that thinks the reign of terror is a pretty good idea? Have you talked with leadership or influential members of any of these parties about the feasibility of a hunger strike as part of your campaign, and what were their responses? What I'm trying to get at with these questions is do you have a plan or just an idea?

I'm still waiting currently, also its better to have the element of surprise. I am very secretive in nearly everything I do so whoever I am up against cannot predict my moves. Also its risky in that if a revolution does break out they would know who to go after/target in order to weaken the people doing it.

The previous prime minister in power and financial guy messed up Australia's economy pretty badly apparently but they lost the leadership election before they could throw more monkey wrenches to clog the system. Unemployment percent that has overtaken the U.S by nearly 10x more in 1-2 years, ridiculously expensive housing bubble for first home buyers that exceeds the U.S and multiplied debt rate. The failed chocolate factory tour and upgrade deal also contributed.

Also its not one or two but a network of micro/minor parties up against the corporate funded 3 parties(Labor, Liberal and Greens who are all neoliberal, only difference is hardcore to most softcore). It works with a two party system("Two party preferred) identical to that of the U.S. The most funded parties get the highest change of taking power. The grassroots campaign is to first raise awareness in all people about this issue.

I also have my own methods. Encourage people to vote for somebody who is extremely stupid enough to be or will be a monkey wrench to the system + its foreign globalist/neo-colonial policies. Rand Paul/Trump are potential good candidates for the U.S as a monkey wrench to corporate globalization and Tony Abbott for Aus though I hope the Malcolm guy will also be a monkey wrench to the current system and mess it up.

From what I've read about chaos theory, chaos also is related to many different things going in different directions. In the "change" type of chaos, it requires a combination of many different factors. It might become possible soon since Australia's economic crisis severity has overtaken the U.S, possibly turning it into another "Greece" or perhaps even India/Africa(Economically and work rights due to lack of union militancy to defend from neocon attacks on it) if allowed to continue down that path. Hold the pendulum in one direction back enough for it to swing back violently.

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers,  one for illegal shit
One for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-eurotunnel-services-suspended-after-french-protests-firm-2015-6?IR=T

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewfeeney2/2015/06/30/uber-execs-arrested-in-france-after-luddite-protests/

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

http://www.peoplesmandate.iinet.net.au/Government_as_Foreign_corporation.html

>hates the government
>isn't a criminal

Holy fuck, atleast when I say "fuck the police " I have some dignity.
You the type of nigga who buys an anarchy cap at hottopic and brags about being anti big a.

Its called being a freeman-on-the-land.

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers,  one for illegal shit
One for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-eurotunnel-services-suspended-after-french-protests-firm-2015-6?IR=T

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewfeeney2/2015/06/30/uber-execs-arrested-in-france-after-luddite-protests/

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

http://www.peoplesmandate.iinet.net.au/Government_as_Foreign_corporation.html

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

https://coolaggregator.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/mystery-creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

http://weekinweird.com/2015/05/21/camp-hero-americas-weirdest-state-park-is-haunted-by-strange-creatures-and-psychic-spy-experiments/

Animal testing center confirmed responsible: http://askville.amazon.com/Plum-Island-Animal-Center-responsible-strange-creature-washed-ashore/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13733904

And you would sure as shit have to be in charge, because what you are talking about is illegal as fuck. As it should be, as it involves genetic experiments on human beings.

You have got to be trolling, nobody is actually this stupid.

I meant THEORETICALLY. And chances are that its highly likely the government is already doing it without you knowing.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

Gun control is also one of the worst forms of torture.

Meanwhile, back in reality, ISIS is testing chemical weapons on captured Kurdish fighters.

That can't be nearly as bad as gun control!!!

Those Kurds have it pretty good compared to ChaosAdvocate.  They only get locked up in prisons where they are beaten, cut open, electrocuted, burned and sexually violated for the heinous crime of suggesting the Kurds as a people actually exist and have a culture, or have lunatics like ISIS treat them as literal guinea pigs for their forays into WMD tech.  They have no idea how privileged they are compared to an 18 year old Australian who's not allowed access to guns.

I meant worst form of psychological torture, it takes way your ability to defend yourself. And attacks my sense of identity.

Listen chaos dude.

I haven't read a thing you've said, but from responses, you've got some problems, you're one of those weirdo punks who is a complete asshole about it.

You can be nihilistic, but part of nihilism is you're shit too.
You can be revolutionary, but fucking you need people for that, and you can't get people on your side by being a dick. Even if you get people on your side you're getting people who are angry on your side. Which angry people are prone to just sit and talk bullshit instead of doing anything.

In conclusion. Listen to some crass, some AJJ, some pat the bunny, and a smidgen of jeffery  lewis.

I am acting "asshole" a bit because of the rudeness of some of the posters on this thread. Eye for an eye.

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

I mean, not to even touch on the fact that you are essentially talking about forcing women to be pregnant with genetic chimera babies of unknown viability for cheap kicks, which is gross as fuck. No doubt you'd love to see compulsory breeding farms.

Fascist little shithead.

Ever heard of testubes?*

The embryo still has to be brought to term inside a human, you idiot. 

It does not if you have a large container that simulates the conditions of a human host. I don't know why the scientific community are too retarded to think of this idea or alternate ways.

Just a tip, kid: if you wait for opportunities to enact change to come along, you'll wait your whole life. You have to make your own opportunities, and while they might not align with your grandiose visions of leading the charge to sack Rome, if you try, you might find that you actually can make incremental differences that lead in the right direction. Systems don't just collapse, like they seem to in books and fantasies; they erode, and they change. I live in a place with legal marijuana, marriage equality, the right to die, free two-year college, and socialized health care. Tell me the people who made those things happen sat back and waited for an opportunity to enact change to just come along.

Go on, tell me.

Because then I'll just laugh in your face and go on doing what I'm doing in my spare time when I'm not learning to be a competent neurobiologist, which is working to incrementally increase public access to fresh, nutritious, free food, which I believe is a basic human right that should be guaranteed to everyone via the social contract.

So get off your lazy, whiny, entitled son of a Colonial ass and get out there and DO SOMETHING, or SHUT UP.

The economy is going into a recession and donald trump in the U.S is about to win who will mess up the neoliberal system big time(The EU don't like him, China doesn't like him, etc) and he is willing to go "hitler" in order to try to to prevent the U.S from losing superpower status which could lead to a "The World vs The U.S" scenario if far enough. And also I am not "preaching" this to you but discussing but isn't this a sign that eris/discordia will soon make a harvest of chaos out of the instability leaks? It kind of resembles before the roman empire collapses. Now how did they fall plus with the people being incharge of it having a dislike for Eris/Discordia? They lost to her influence(chaos) when the discord/disharmony within the empire grew.

Also I am not interested in pushing for reform but rather in the system collapsing and a revolutionary situation occurring. A total overthrow is what I would like to see. One of the best ways to do this is to vote for somebody who will be stupidly/arrogantly self-destructive enough to wreck the economy and nation.

What you want isn't a total overthrow. What you want is for YOU to be in charge, in a fascist dictatorship in which you can put women in breeding camps and perform torturous human experiments. Fortunately, you're just some moronic pissant teenager typing fantasy stories from mummy's house in a non-country, so that isn't a real concern.

Nope, for a better off society that will solve our current problems. Making up conspiracy theories on me again? The scientific part does not have to be done after a revolution, I could try it myself right now in the CURRENT society if I somehow managed to buy all the materials and a place to do it. Maybe it would work even better in the current society pre-revolution compared to the direct democracy the far-left revolutionaries want in that it would attract the attention of CEOs, mad scientists or military officials to sponsor and support it. Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments). I have widespread interests and the scientific one would be done by myself with the resources and not using any political power. It can be done both before or after revolution, infact it would be harder after a far-left direct democracy revolution since if you anger/offend the masses they can stomp on you in such a society which means storm the said lab with guns after finding out if they don't like the idea.

And nope I specifically said for the scientific community cloning/transgenic modification part that it will NOT use a human or living host. You do NOT have to be incharge to do it but get the money to perform it yourself and buy the materials to experiment INFORMALLY. Instead it will be a class container where you feed the cloned living thing nutrients and have temperatures that simulate that of the host. Why are you so opposed to change if it will not hurt anyone? It will use an ALTERNATIVE way instead of a host, a container that will simulate the conditions of a host.

And its not merely "fantasy". It is a projection of exactly what I would do if I had the resources for it.

Also Australia is officially classified as a "country" even by the U.S government though I consider it a satellite state of the imperial/globalist powers. It can be a military superpower(If they built nukes) because it has a massive uranium/mine supply which can be used to build heaps of nukes to take out any current superpower fairly quick.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

[and implanted in the womb]

I mean, not to even touch on the fact that you are essentially talking about forcing women to be pregnant with genetic chimera babies of unknown viability for cheap kicks, which is gross as fuck. No doubt you'd love to see compulsory breeding farms.

Fascist little shithead.

Ever heard of testubes?*

Doesn't even know test tube babies don't literally grow in test tubes.

Lectures others on genetics and biology.

Discuss* not lecture. Also its possible to grow one in a jar, so there you have it. Problem solved. Easy, is it not?: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1320175/First-test-tube-baby-Louise-Brown-actually-grown-jar.html

Mr Edwards, an 85-year-old Cambridge physiologist and the late Patrick Steptoe, a gynaecologic surgeon, developed IVF technology in which egg cells are fertilised outside the body and implanted in the womb.

Got any proof it doesnt work in large glass containers with the right temperature and conditions?

And you know what? I was quite entertained/nourished by the "Ukraine crisis" when it occurred. The stir it caused to even where I live, it was quite disappointing they made a ceasefire and the other side didn't launch an attack. .

You are a sociopath and should seek treatment.

Please note that there's nothing "edgy" about being a sociopath.  It means that you are mentally and emotionally stunted.  A defective biot, and not in a revolutionary way.  You are to the species what Fiats are to sports cars.

Nope I can feel for others but I can also feel the greater good that comes at the end. France because of the French Revolution has an anti-authority culture where people spit on the authorities all the time and have barely any respect for them. They are very riot/protest and strike-happy because of the French Revolution and allow none to dictate their lives. I do not want to live in an Orwellian 1984.

I would rather Somalia than Oceania in 1984 or a corporate-fascist state if made to choose. I care about my freedoms, you do not. What we have here is already fucking horrible, read this: http://theaimn.com/the-slide-away-from-democracy/

And if you care about people you should know they technically have concentration camps for refugees, declassifying the conditions will get you sent straight to prison. Oppression does not end on its own, you need change.

Have you tried reading any of the other threads on this board? You come across like a pubescent kid who just discovered social injustice and thinks he has all the right outrage and all the right answers, but has exactly zero idea what's going on in the activism sphere and has only read one book. Ever.

In addition, none of this has FUCK ALL to do with doing genetic experiments on human beings. Did you even look to see what thread you were in? Go home, little boy, you are lost.

I was replying to someone just. As for this thread I'm talking about pulling off a real life "Dr. Frankenstein" except without "bringing back the dead" but creating many new unusual life forms. Cultivate chaos in nature through gene/DNA tampering.

Combine gill genes with humans, combine wing genes with humans, combine amphibious genes with humans maybe even fish, reptile, croc, bird or bat genes with human intelligence and humanoid appearence. See the results, scream "ITS ALIVE!" Who knows what you will get? So who will be the real life Dr. Frankenstein of gene/dna tampering?

I honestly wouldn't give a crap if we had human-intelligence level "abominations" walking around everywhere. It would just make the world a more interesting place.

What in the fuck kind of bullshit do they teach people in high school biology in Australia? I know the place is backward as fuck, but seriously?

Same crap you talk about but I follow and research my own sources. And also its proven that living things can be grown in jars or glass containers: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1320175/First-test-tube-baby-Louise-Brown-actually-grown-jar.html

Folks in the U.S around my age 18-20s(In my generation) also unknowingly created and inhaled chlorine gas for example on 4chan when some guy disguised it as as crystal blowing recipe.