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Title: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: President Television on January 07, 2010, 02:39:10 PM
Relevant links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,1,26558490-5006301,00.html

http://www.clockcrew.cc/talk/showthread.php?p=1714054&posted=1#post1714054
:lulz:
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Thurnez Isa on January 07, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
Can already tell you what's going to happen...
American's will overreact (to a degree I think it's alright since it IS an American company)
Australians will then overreact cause they think they are being called racist
and everyone but KFC is going to look a total idiot
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Rumckle on January 07, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
 :lulz:

Reminds of something my friend said the other day:

"The reason Canadians and Australians get along so well is that they are both racist."
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: hooplala on January 07, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
People are actually offended by this commercial?  They even say it's a Cricket survival guide... he is clearly wearing different teams colours.  So the awkwardness is that he is sitting in the wrong area of the arena, not that's he's surrounded by black people.


Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: hooplala on January 07, 2010, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: Rumckle on January 07, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
:lulz:

Reminds of something my friend said the other day:

"The reason Canadians and Australians get along so well is that they are both racist."

Wha?  Based on WHAT?
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Rumckle on January 07, 2010, 04:16:06 PM
Something about the way we both treat our indigenous peoples.

He was from Alberta, btw.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: hooplala on January 07, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: Rumckle on January 07, 2010, 04:16:06 PM
Something about the way we both treat our indigenous peoples.

He was from Alberta, btw.

Oh, well that explains it.  Based on his experience that's probably true.  You should tell him Alberta is nice and all, with the miles and miles of fields and prairies, but he should try coming to Canada some time.  
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Thurnez Isa on January 07, 2010, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 07, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
People are actually offended by this commercial?  They even say it's a Cricket survival guide... he is clearly wearing different teams colours.  So the awkwardness is that he is sitting in the wrong area of the arena, not that's he's surrounded by black people.




The one point that I will give those that overreact a little leeway is that it is an American company and KFC did say they tried to prevent it from being seen by Americans since it can be seen as playing off American stereotypes. It makes me wonder if there would have been a better way to make the commercial,
and more to the point what company can be so incredibly stupid to think it's not going to be leeked on the internet?
But having said that it's a weak argument in my opinion and everyone should take a chill pill. I stand by my original statement. Everyone will overreact and everyone will end up looking like idiots in the end
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: hooplala on January 07, 2010, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 07, 2010, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 07, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
People are actually offended by this commercial?  They even say it's a Cricket survival guide... he is clearly wearing different teams colours.  So the awkwardness is that he is sitting in the wrong area of the arena, not that's he's surrounded by black people.




The one point that I will give those that overreact a little leeway is that it is an American company and KFC did say they tried to prevent it from being seen by Americans since it can be seen as playing off American stereotypes. It makes me wonder if there would have been a better way to make the commercial,
and more to the point what company can be so incredibly stupid to think it's not going to be leeked on the internet?
But having said that it's a weaker and everyone should take a chill pill. I stand by my original statement. Everyone will overreact and everyone will end up looking like idiots in the end


It probably would be misinterpreted since a lot of Americans (most?) don't have any knowledge of cricket or soccer, and how the crowds are.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2010, 04:25:50 PM
Casual racism towards Aborigines was fairly common in Australia, even in the 80s (it might be better now...though I doubt it).  But then in Australia, casual racism towards everyone was fairly common, whether they be British, American, South-East Asian, Arab or from other parts of Australia.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Rumckle on January 07, 2010, 04:28:43 PM
I was about to add Kiwis, but then I noticed you put "other parts of Australia"
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2010, 04:29:17 PM
Kiwis aren't really people either, so they don't count.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Iason Ouabache on January 07, 2010, 05:07:14 PM
Reminds me of the kerfuffle a couple months ago when someone thought it would be a good idea to do a black face performance on Australian television. I understand the cultural differences can cause confusion, but c'mon! Do a little research every now and then.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: President Television on January 07, 2010, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 07, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
Can already tell you what's going to happen...
American's will overreact (to a degree I think it's alright since it IS an American company)
Australians will then overreact cause they think they are being called racist
and everyone but KFC is going to look a total idiot

Already happened, according to that news site I linked in the OP.
Except for the part about Australia overreacting. I think. I got a headache before I could dig too deeply into the youtube comments.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 07, 2010, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2010, 04:25:50 PM
Casual racism towards Aborigines was fairly common in Australia, even in the 80s (it might be better now...though I doubt it).  But then in Australia, casual racism towards everyone was fairly common, whether they be British, American, South-East Asian, Arab or from other parts of Australia.

when I took the test to apply for an australian immigration visa, they were pretty obvious about preferring people who spoke english as a first language and came from predominantly white, english-speaking countries.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Rumckle on January 07, 2010, 05:21:17 PM
But we were taught that Australia got rid of the White Australia Policy.  :roll:
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2010, 05:25:26 PM
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.  Legacy of the White Australia policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy) and highly similar One Australia policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Australia_policy).
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Thurnez Isa on January 07, 2010, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on January 07, 2010, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 07, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
Can already tell you what's going to happen...
American's will overreact (to a degree I think it's alright since it IS an American company)
Australians will then overreact cause they think they are being called racist
and everyone but KFC is going to look a total idiot

Already happened, according to that news site I linked in the OP.
Except for the part about Australia overreacting. I think. I got a headache before I could dig too deeply into the youtube comments.

I have read it already
I thought of posting a bunch of incredibly stupid ones for the lulz and decided against wasting my time with it.
but In my opinion this guy nailed it

QuoteUnfortunately it is true that there is a serious problem with racism in Australia, however this ad has nothing to do with race relations. It is about fitting in and making friends with the fans of an opposition cricket team, in this case the West Indies. It is unfortunate that so many people have interpreted this ad as racist, simply because it featured people, who on physical level resemble African-Americans and fried chicken. So please try to understand the cultural context before criticizing.

See youtube thats how it's done. That statement is civil. It actually makes sense, but because it's youtube it was completely ignored.
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: President Television on January 07, 2010, 05:42:42 PM
The funny thing is, though, every fan of the opposing team just happens to be black. I'd like to think that it's a coincidence, but I just don't think there's any way it could have happened by accident. Surely at least one more white person must have auditioned to be in the commercial.
I do think the commercial has racist undertones, but I also think this whole fiasco is hilarious, so yeah...
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Iason Ouabache on January 08, 2010, 09:17:11 AM
That's not a racist commercial, this is a racist commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vAfXNzXueE
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: AFK on January 08, 2010, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on January 08, 2010, 09:17:11 AM
That's not a racist commercial, this is a racist commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vAfXNzXueE

Heh, the guy didn't have to open his mouth and I already knew I wouldn't ever want to do any business with him.  He just has that look.  Kind of like Bob from Bob's Discount Furniture.   
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 08, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on January 07, 2010, 05:42:42 PM
The funny thing is, though, every fan of the opposing team just happens to be black. I'd like to think that it's a coincidence, but I just don't think there's any way it could have happened by accident. Surely at least one more white person must have auditioned to be in the commercial.
I do think the commercial has racist undertones, but I also think this whole fiasco is hilarious, so yeah...

It's apparently the west Indies cricket team in question. 
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: Cain on January 08, 2010, 11:00:52 PM
Wasn't this commercial also aired as a tie-in to the 20/20 World Cup, which took place in....the West Indies?
Title: Re: Australian guy posts commercial on youtube, trolls America
Post by: President Television on January 09, 2010, 01:29:40 AM
Ok then, that makes a bit more sense.
But why did that white guy have to be white? It still looks bad. Though I suppose this was probably part of a series that all starred the same guy. Never mind then.
Regardless of whether it was intentional or not, it was amusing.