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Title: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 06, 2015, 11:50:37 PM
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Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Cain on July 07, 2015, 12:04:38 AM
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Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Demolition Squid on July 13, 2015, 10:48:07 AM
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Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 13, 2015, 10:01:03 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Edward Longpork on July 14, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
    User: What's that white fluffy thing in the sky?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Close enough. What's that big bright circle?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Fine, whatever. What about this green stuff on the ground?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 14, 2015, 10:49:12 PM
Quote from: Edward Longpork on July 14, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
    User: What's that white fluffy thing in the sky?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Close enough. What's that big bright circle?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Fine, whatever. What about this green stuff on the ground?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

I remember being part of this safari, somewhere else, about half a dozen years ago or something
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: Edward Longpork on July 14, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
    User: What's that white fluffy thing in the sky?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Close enough. What's that big bright circle?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Fine, whatever. What about this green stuff on the ground?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: It's your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: You've got a little boy. He shows you his butterfly collection plus the killing jar. What do you do?

Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?

Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: This could take all night, he's stonewalling us.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 15, 2015, 12:02:05 PM
:spit:
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Freeky on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Don Coyote on July 16, 2015, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner

Those are the questions a Blade Runner asks replicants to see if they are replicants.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Freeky on July 16, 2015, 04:07:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on July 16, 2015, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner

Those are the questions a Blade Runner asks replicants to see if they are replicants.


Oh, okay.

Just read Wiki on that.  What a weird story.  Sounds pretty good though.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Eater of Clowns on July 16, 2015, 04:13:45 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: Edward Longpork on July 14, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
    User: What's that white fluffy thing in the sky?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Close enough. What's that big bright circle?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

    User: Fine, whatever. What about this green stuff on the ground?

    Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: It's your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: You've got a little boy. He shows you his butterfly collection plus the killing jar. What do you do?

Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?

Deep Dream: Doggie!

Deckard: This could take all night, he's stonewalling us.
:spittake:
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Eater of Clowns on July 16, 2015, 04:20:42 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.
Rick Deckard, using the Kobayashi Maru to find out if Harry Potter is the Kwisatz Haderach.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Freeky on July 16, 2015, 04:22:28 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 16, 2015, 04:20:42 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.
Rick Deckard, using the Kobayashi Maru to find out if Harry Potter is the Kwisatz Haderach.

Was he?
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Don Coyote on July 16, 2015, 04:29:38 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 04:22:28 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 16, 2015, 04:20:42 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.
Rick Deckard, using the Kobayashi Maru to find out if Harry Potter is the Kwisatz Haderach.

Was he?

No, it turns out we all were, all along thanks to the Power of Friendship.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: LMNO on July 16, 2015, 04:56:01 AM
I now have that warm, fuzzy, "I hate you with the heat of a thousand suns" feeling about you right now.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 19, 2015, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 04:07:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on July 16, 2015, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner

Those are the questions a Blade Runner asks replicants to see if they are replicants.


Oh, okay.

Just read Wiki on that.  What a weird story.  Sounds pretty good though.

Blade runner is good film. You should watch it.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: rong on July 19, 2015, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 04:22:28 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 16, 2015, 04:20:42 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.
Rick Deckard, using the Kobayashi Maru to find out if Harry Potter is the Kwisatz Haderach.

Was he?
He used to be in a barbershop quartet in Skokie, Illinois. The baritone was this guy named Kip Diskin, big fat guy, I mean, like, orca fat
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 19, 2015, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 04:07:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on July 16, 2015, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on July 16, 2015, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 15, 2015, 11:57:13 AM

Deckard: You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it's crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on it's back. The tortoise lays on it's back, it's belly baking in the hot sun, beating it's legs trying to turn it'self over, but it can't, not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that?


What the everloving shit?!

Who is this Deckard person?  A quick google of the name didn't lead me to anything I would immediately connect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner

Those are the questions a Blade Runner asks replicants to see if they are replicants.


Oh, okay.

Just read Wiki on that.  What a weird story.  Sounds pretty good though.

Blade runner is good film. You should watch it.

It was cold poop on toast.  It was that bad.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 19, 2015, 06:25:42 PM
No. No! it isn't true. La La La not listening *throws self out window*
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 19, 2015, 06:25:42 PM
No. No! it isn't true. La La La not listening *throws self out window*

How come they only send one cop when a killing machine goes bananas?

Why do they make the killing machines indistinguishable from people?

Why the transparent attempt to be mysterious at the end?

That movie made me feel bad.  It made me feel like my kids became Sheriff Arpiao fans.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: LMNO on July 19, 2015, 06:30:26 PM
At least there was toast.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 19, 2015, 06:30:26 PM
At least there was toast.

The toast was the action scenes.  I could almost forget that the plot was so wretched.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 19, 2015, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 19, 2015, 06:25:42 PM
No. No! it isn't true. La La La not listening *throws self out window*

How come they only send one cop when a killing machine goes bananas?

Why do they make the killing machines indistinguishable from people?

Why the transparent attempt to be mysterious at the end?

That movie made me feel bad.  It made me feel like my kids became Sheriff Arpiao fans.

The first one doesn't make any sense, he was a bounty hunter and they could have shown multiple others hired to do the same.

The second one was they were supposed to be miners or something, but yeah a tattoo or anything would have broken down the premise.

The end has a couple of versions, Theres one thats explicit, and theres the one that does the mysterious thing but isn't really ambiguous because one possibility is impossible.

The plot comes secondary to the look and feel though, which is a detractor, but it is a gorgeous film.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 19, 2015, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 19, 2015, 06:25:42 PM
No. No! it isn't true. La La La not listening *throws self out window*

How come they only send one cop when a killing machine goes bananas?

Why do they make the killing machines indistinguishable from people?

Why the transparent attempt to be mysterious at the end?

That movie made me feel bad.  It made me feel like my kids became Sheriff Arpiao fans.

The first one doesn't make any sense, he was a bounty hunter and they could have shown multiple others hired to do the same.

The second one was they were supposed to be miners or something, but yeah a tattoo or anything would have broken down the premise.

The end has a couple of versions, Theres one thats explicit, and theres the one that does the mysterious thing but isn't really ambiguous because one possibility is impossible.

The plot comes secondary to the look and feel though, which is a detractor, but it is a gorgeous film.

I'm weird when it comes to science fiction.  I can swallow shit like FTL drives, because that's just "the horse in the western", so to speak.

But one book I was reading was looking really, really good for a chapter or two, then there was a scene with cat in a spacesuit.  The book bounced off the wall, and landed in my garbage can, nothing but net.

An FTL drive, I can accept.  Getting a cat into a spacesuit?  NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

Blade runner was like that.  No attempt to suspend disbelief was actually made.  It was like someone made Hawk the Slayer with a straight face.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 19, 2015, 07:19:27 PM
Yeah it's very much a case "Here's what we are doing, accept it or you're not going to like this." The fifth element did that too but because it's a comedy instead of homage to noir, it gets away with it more.

I'm the same but generally for the portrayal of the characters. For example Interstellar pissed me off, not because of the stupid plot devices at the end, but because everyone in the film was dour ad absurdum, killed my suspension of disbelief. It wouldn't have taken much. Michael Cain cracking a little gallows humour would have made the wooden crying for two minutes scene work.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 07:22:46 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 19, 2015, 07:19:27 PM
Yeah it's very much a case "Here's what we are doing, accept it or you're not going to like this." The fifth element did that too but because it's a comedy instead of homage to noir, it gets away with it more.

I'm the same but generally for the portrayal of the characters. For example Interstellar pissed me off, not because of the stupid plot devices at the end, but because everyone in the film was dour ad absurdum, killed my suspension of disbelief. It wouldn't have taken much. Michael Cain cracking a little gallows humour would have made the wooden crying for two minutes scene work.

I haven't seen Interstellar.  It was described to me as "Contact" meets "2001, A Space Oddessy", and I couldn't bear the thought.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 07:30:28 PM


They made a huge deal about hiring a nobel prize winning physicist to consult on the physics then had a fucking breaking wave bearing down on them on a planet covered entirely in water. I was this close to standing up and screaming "What's it fucking breaking on?" in the middle of the cinema
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2015, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 07:30:28 PM


They made a huge deal about hiring a nobel prize winning physicist to consult on the physics then had a fucking breaking wave bearing down on them on a planet covered entirely in water. I was this close to standing up and screaming "What's it fucking breaking on?" in the middle of the cinema

It was breaking on the money you spent on your movie ticket.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Demolition Squid on July 19, 2015, 08:46:56 PM
Blade Runner is one of the best movies ever made. Probably THE best sci-fi movie. There. I said it.

There's not many movies I can still find new things to enjoy in after more than a dozen viewings. I did find a whole bunch of new stuff when I went to see it at the cinema (all of the humans in the movie are disfigured or ugly in some way, except Dekard; all of the replicants are beautiful and perfect). It is a movie that asks you to suspend disbelief, but in terms of building a world through locations, set and costume, it is a masterclass in sci-fi. It just places more emphasis on the 'fi' than most.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 19, 2015, 09:06:14 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 07:30:28 PM


They made a huge deal about hiring a nobel prize winning physicist to consult on the physics then had a fucking breaking wave bearing down on them on a planet covered entirely in water. I was this close to standing up and screaming "What's it fucking breaking on?" in the middle of the cinema

:lulz:
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 19, 2015, 09:07:30 PM
Wait. I saw that movie. Wasn't the water only like two feet deep? It was breaking on the bottom.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
It was the gravity that was raising the water. Lifting two feet of water 200 feet in the air. Aside from the fact that there wasn't enough water on the planet to make a wave that big the gravitational force that was holding up a gazillion tons of water but, at the same time, wasn't affecting the characters , robot or spaceship would, presumably have cancelled out most of the friction effect caused by the sea bed.

Maybe I'm off here. Maybe it was totally realistic but everything about it just stuck me as - get the fuck out of here  :eek:
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
It was the gravity that was raising the water. Lifting two feet of water 200 feet in the air. Aside from the fact that there wasn't enough water on the planet to make a wave that big the gravitational force that was holding up a gazillion tons of water but, at the same time, wasn't affecting the characters , robot or spaceship would, presumably have cancelled out most of the friction effect caused by the sea bed.

Maybe I'm off here. Maybe it was totally realistic but everything about it just stuck me as - get the fuck out of here  :eek:

Nah, the science checks out. Check out this thread: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/101543-Calculating-tidal-forces-(Interstellar)
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 01:51:21 AM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on July 19, 2015, 08:46:56 PM
Blade Runner is one of the best movies ever made. Probably THE best sci-fi movie. There. I said it.

Get out of my house.  Right now.  Take your fucking hat and your stupid dog and that thing you thought would get a reaction out of everyone (we've ALL seen THAT, even if yours was a pull-start), and just get the hell out.  Go wander in the desert and tell the coral snakes how fucking awesome that movie was.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 03:13:19 AM
It occurs to me that I should do movie and book reviews.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 03:15:58 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 03:13:19 AM
It occurs to me that I should do movie and book reviews.

Yes oh yes. You should. Absolutely.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 03:17:33 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 03:15:58 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 03:13:19 AM
It occurs to me that I should do movie and book reviews.

Yes oh yes. You should. Absolutely.

Hmm.

Where to start?
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Cain on July 20, 2015, 03:25:15 AM
Mad Max: Fury Road.  Everyone says its amazing, convince me otherwise
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 03:26:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2015, 03:25:15 AM
Mad Max: Fury Road.  Everyone says its amazing, convince me otherwise

Crap.  Now I gotta watch it.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Cain on July 20, 2015, 03:28:39 AM
On the upside, everyone does say it's really good.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: President Television on July 20, 2015, 03:57:36 AM
It's basically a documentary about Arizona.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 20, 2015, 07:54:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2015, 03:28:39 AM
On the upside, everyone does say it's really good.

it's a two hour chase scene with implicit storytelling and fun costumes and I loved every second of it.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 20, 2015, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
It was the gravity that was raising the water. Lifting two feet of water 200 feet in the air. Aside from the fact that there wasn't enough water on the planet to make a wave that big the gravitational force that was holding up a gazillion tons of water but, at the same time, wasn't affecting the characters , robot or spaceship would, presumably have cancelled out most of the friction effect caused by the sea bed.

Maybe I'm off here. Maybe it was totally realistic but everything about it just stuck me as - get the fuck out of here  :eek:

Nah, the science checks out. Check out this thread: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/101543-Calculating-tidal-forces-(Interstellar)

It doesn't check out too much. They explicitly say the water planet has 2 or 3 times earth gravity. To leave earth they needed a three stage separation rocket, and to leave this place they just fly off with tiny magic hover jets, but as I said, the science isn't the failing point of this film.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 07:58:51 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 20, 2015, 07:54:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2015, 03:28:39 AM
On the upside, everyone does say it's really good.

it's a two hour chase scene with implicit storytelling and fun costumes and I loved every second of it.

Everyone says that.  I must slay this film, if I am to be a critic.

Also, it gives me old man cred if I compare it unfavorably to movie #2, sort of like endlessly bitching about "new" Aerosmith.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 20, 2015, 08:08:23 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2015, 07:58:51 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 20, 2015, 07:54:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2015, 03:28:39 AM
On the upside, everyone does say it's really good.

it's a two hour chase scene with implicit storytelling and fun costumes and I loved every second of it.

Everyone says that.  I must slay this film, if I am to be a critic.

Also, it gives me old man cred if I compare it unfavorably to movie #2, sort of like endlessly bitching about "new" Aerosmith.

I watched 2 a week before I went to it, Road Warrior is still my favourite but I preferred Fury Road to Thunderdome and the original film.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 20, 2015, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
It was the gravity that was raising the water. Lifting two feet of water 200 feet in the air. Aside from the fact that there wasn't enough water on the planet to make a wave that big the gravitational force that was holding up a gazillion tons of water but, at the same time, wasn't affecting the characters , robot or spaceship would, presumably have cancelled out most of the friction effect caused by the sea bed.

Maybe I'm off here. Maybe it was totally realistic but everything about it just stuck me as - get the fuck out of here  :eek:

Nah, the science checks out. Check out this thread: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/101543-Calculating-tidal-forces-(Interstellar)

It doesn't check out too much. They explicitly say the water planet has 2 or 3 times earth gravity. To leave earth they needed a three stage separation rocket, and to leave this place they just fly off with tiny magic hover jets, but as I said, the science isn't the failing point of this film.

It has 1.3 times Earth gravity, but 1.81 Earth density, which means it would need a smaller delta-v to escape, not a larger one. In addition the competing gravitational pull from Gargantua is quite strong and consequently, once airborne, the craft needs little propulsion to enter space.

The physics, as far as I can see, are sound.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 20, 2015, 03:59:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 20, 2015, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
It was the gravity that was raising the water. Lifting two feet of water 200 feet in the air. Aside from the fact that there wasn't enough water on the planet to make a wave that big the gravitational force that was holding up a gazillion tons of water but, at the same time, wasn't affecting the characters , robot or spaceship would, presumably have cancelled out most of the friction effect caused by the sea bed.

Maybe I'm off here. Maybe it was totally realistic but everything about it just stuck me as - get the fuck out of here  :eek:

Nah, the science checks out. Check out this thread: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/101543-Calculating-tidal-forces-(Interstellar)

It doesn't check out too much. They explicitly say the water planet has 2 or 3 times earth gravity. To leave earth they needed a three stage separation rocket, and to leave this place they just fly off with tiny magic hover jets, but as I said, the science isn't the failing point of this film.

It has 1.3 times Earth gravity, but 1.81 Earth density, which means it would need a smaller delta-v to escape, not a larger one. In addition the competing gravitational pull from Gargantua is quite strong and consequently, once airborne, the craft needs little propulsion to enter space.

The physics, as far as I can see, are sound.

I stand corrected. I'd heard them say that it had the greater gravity but not the greater density. That's good attention to detail, and it would have been cool if they applied it to the other aspects of the film.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 04:03:43 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 20, 2015, 03:59:03 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 20, 2015, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 19, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
It was the gravity that was raising the water. Lifting two feet of water 200 feet in the air. Aside from the fact that there wasn't enough water on the planet to make a wave that big the gravitational force that was holding up a gazillion tons of water but, at the same time, wasn't affecting the characters , robot or spaceship would, presumably have cancelled out most of the friction effect caused by the sea bed.

Maybe I'm off here. Maybe it was totally realistic but everything about it just stuck me as - get the fuck out of here  :eek:

Nah, the science checks out. Check out this thread: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/101543-Calculating-tidal-forces-(Interstellar)

It doesn't check out too much. They explicitly say the water planet has 2 or 3 times earth gravity. To leave earth they needed a three stage separation rocket, and to leave this place they just fly off with tiny magic hover jets, but as I said, the science isn't the failing point of this film.

It has 1.3 times Earth gravity, but 1.81 Earth density, which means it would need a smaller delta-v to escape, not a larger one. In addition the competing gravitational pull from Gargantua is quite strong and consequently, once airborne, the craft needs little propulsion to enter space.

The physics, as far as I can see, are sound.

I stand corrected. I'd heard them say that it had the greater gravity but not the greater density. That's good attention to detail, and it would have been cool if they applied it to the other aspects of the film.

Yeah, they hired a physicist to make sure the physics held water. I don't really have an opinion on anything else; I only vaguely remember the plotline.

I'm not exactly what you might call a movie buff.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 20, 2015, 04:06:15 PM
I'd be curious to hear your criticisms, though, to see whether I noticed them at all (my guess is that I didn't).
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 20, 2015, 04:56:16 PM
I'd have to watch it again to give it justification (even for a film I don't like I'd like to keep my criticisms fair) so I'll try keep to what I can remember.

The world is established as failing, with food sources becoming more and more scarce which is a good premise to lead into the space expedition and the body of the film.

From the very beginning, every character is shown in a morose even miserable state, fine, we've established their lives are shit and they are all probably going to die.

After the characters are introduced and the back story is given right up to the end of the film every scene boils down a repetitive cycle of
A sacrifice which hurts loved ones.

What would be cool would be an exploration of their humanity and how the people affected react to that, but every time its the same delivery be it from the beginning of Matthew Mcconaughey leaving his kids, to Michael Cains crying deathbed speech, to Anne Hathaway's husband sacrifice: People start blubbering and crying while the person they are playing off has the stony face.
Every choice in the film is the same, every reaction to the choice is the same.

Michael Cain's deathbed scene and the heavy handed repeated use of "Do not go gentle into that good night", were the parts that killed the movie for me.

I don't mind depressing films, people crying doesn't make me uncomfortable, its that in this case I found it repetitive to the point of killing all suspension of disbelief.

I find it at odds with what they are portraying, with beautifully stunning visuals and a story that boils down to the spirit of exploration and a last hope. The emotional content instead portrays of film of people presented by adversity and completely crushed by it until the deus ex at the end.

Perhaps I am being too picky but I don't think it would have taken much to completely change the tone of the film: one, two at the most scenes of a little gallows humour would have restored the human element of the story for me and to feel a reality to the characters.
Because the alternative, when every character acts the same, is a portrayal of a shitty miserable human race that didn't deserve to colonise another world.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on July 20, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
The robots were my favorite part of Interstellar, by a wide margin.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: hooplala on July 20, 2015, 11:14:55 PM
All Nolan films could use a dash of humor.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 20, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
Can't fault Dark Knight, right enough.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 20, 2015, 11:55:01 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on July 20, 2015, 06:57:29 PM
The robots were my favorite part of Interstellar, by a wide margin.

They were the best part. Space porn is nice and all but the robots were the only characters in that movie.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 21, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
See, yeah, I don't remember any of those things.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 21, 2015, 02:37:41 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 21, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
See, yeah, I don't remember any of those things.

That's because you were in the theater headed in the other direction.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 21, 2015, 05:38:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 21, 2015, 02:37:41 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 21, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
See, yeah, I don't remember any of those things.

That's because you were in the theater headed in the other direction.

:ECH:
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: minuspace on July 21, 2015, 08:36:23 AM
It's the cinematic rendition of DD that lacks depth, IMHO
QuoteWith a bit of luck, his life would be ruined forever.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Faust on July 21, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 21, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
See, yeah, I don't remember any of those things.

Maybe that's for the best, I mean if you enjoyed it that's the most important thing.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Freeky on July 21, 2015, 11:28:42 PM
I freaking loved Fury Road.  Every brutal, tense, fast paced second.

And the bard was awesome.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 22, 2015, 04:24:14 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 21, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 21, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
See, yeah, I don't remember any of those things.

Maybe that's for the best, I mean if you enjoyed it that's the most important thing.

All I really remember is feeling a little jerked around by the everybody's-emotional-anguish thing, and irritated as fuck by the bookshelf scene. I'm not sure I enjoyed it, per se, but I did like the waterworld and the robots.

But I'm not a movie buff, as I said. Unless a movie is really good or really bad, my reaction is generally "hey, that's cool" and then to forget all about it. This one just happened to have some interesting science going on, and I just happen to currently be taking oceanography, or else I would likely have nothing  to say about it whatsoever.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on July 22, 2015, 04:36:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 22, 2015, 04:24:14 AM
Quote from: Faust on July 21, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 21, 2015, 01:27:40 AM
See, yeah, I don't remember any of those things.

Maybe that's for the best, I mean if you enjoyed it that's the most important thing.

All I really remember is feeling a little jerked around by the everybody's-emotional-anguish thing, and irritated as fuck by the bookshelf scene. I'm not sure I enjoyed it, per se, but I did like the waterworld and the robots.

But I'm not a movie buff, as I said. Unless a movie is really good or really bad, my reaction is generally "hey, that's cool" and then to forget all about it. This one just happened to have some interesting science going on, and I just happen to currently be taking oceanography, or else I would likely have nothing  to say about it whatsoever.

I would watch a whole movie of just those robots doing their jobs. They were so good at their jobs and were programmed to be sassy.

Best characters.
Title: Re: I AM NOT READY FOR THE FUTURE
Post by: minuspace on July 22, 2015, 07:14:19 AM
My favorite of above was the pallet/colors for new Mad Max poster.  At least there was something right about it.