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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: indifferent betty on May 21, 2008, 01:52:08 PM

Title: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: indifferent betty on May 21, 2008, 01:52:08 PM
Really though, i want to know what other people think (or what they want people to think that they think) regarding 2012 and what Many Things that may Come To Pass.

ideas? delusions? post them here please to satisfy my stupid curiosity
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Raphaella on May 21, 2008, 02:04:25 PM
In the year 2012 many things shall come to pass. Time Wave Zero shall never lead us astray, but I am sure the gods from Nibiru shall rain death upon us.
It shall come to pass that the ONE true god will come down from the heavens and speak onto his prophets, "You have sinned", he will say, his voice booming like the loudest speakers at live earth, "Thus you shall go fourth and gird thy loins with nettles!"
And so it will be done, and our loins shall stingith. Much itching and redness will come to pass, so it is written, and so shall it be.
:cn:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 21, 2008, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: jelly_of_no_doom on May 21, 2008, 01:52:08 PM
Really though, i want to know what other people think (or what they want people to think that they think) regarding 2012 and what Many Things that may Come To Pass.

ideas? delusions? post them here please to satisfy my stupid curiosity

theres been alot of half ass discusion on 2012 here ( a lot more then such bullshit deserves )
use the search to find it all
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: indifferent betty on May 21, 2008, 02:11:40 PM
whats the seach? shall i use the search to find it?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Dr. Paes on May 21, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
 :spag:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: indifferent betty on May 21, 2008, 02:15:53 PM
ok paesor, you obviously need to have the last word on my posts, so say something
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Raphaella on May 21, 2008, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Paesior on May 21, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
:spag:

I second that motion and I up the ante

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Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: indifferent betty on May 21, 2008, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: Raphaella VonMercer on May 21, 2008, 02:18:07 PM

I second that motion and I up the ante

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm85/Raphialla/requiem1_photo.jpg)

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NOW!!!


she's fit..............
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2008, 02:22:55 PM
It'll be like 2000 - a huge disappointment where nothing happens, except the set-up to the biggest amount of mockery in history.

"The world will end/the aliens will come/the Rapture will happen in 2012!"
- Some spag in 2011

13 months later....

"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."
- This spag
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cramulus on May 21, 2008, 02:24:44 PM
there's gonna be some crazy parties
and at midnight
a lot of people
WAY more than normal
are going to do DMT
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2008, 02:26:40 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 21, 2008, 02:24:44 PM
there's gonna be some crazy parties
and at midnight
a lot of people
WAY more than normal
are going to do DMT

Thats true.  There will be some especially good ones down Mexico way.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: indifferent betty on May 21, 2008, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 21, 2008, 02:24:44 PM
there's gonna be some crazy parties
and at midnight
a lot of people
WAY more than normal
are going to do DMT

lots of pineal goodness then, i'm in.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 21, 2008, 02:28:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 21, 2008, 02:22:55 PM
It'll be like 2000 - a huge disappointment where nothing happens, except the set-up to the biggest amount of mockery in history.

"The world will end/the aliens will come/the Rapture will happen in 2012!"
- Some spag in 2011

13 months later....

"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."
- This spag

HELL NO
THE SHAPESHIFTING, REPTILIAN AGENTS WILL SHOW THEIR TRUE FORMS, AND RIDING ON A HERD OF MAYAN RAINGODS WILL BANNISH US ALL INTO THE OBLIVION FOR OUR SINS AGAINST THE EARTH GODDESS
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: indifferent betty on May 21, 2008, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 21, 2008, 02:28:33 PM

HELL NO
THE SHAPESHIFTING, REPTILIAN AGENTS WILL SHOW THEIR TRUE FORMS, AND RIDING ON A HERD OF MAYAN RAINGODS WILL BANNISH US ALL INTO THE OBLIVION FOR OUR SINS AGAINST THE EARTH GODDESS

shit!!! that'll put a dampener on my weekend. must think happy thoughts quick...............
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Raphaella on May 21, 2008, 02:35:24 PM
I've got plans to rig a 74 Lincoln Town car to run on water. We'll apply the cow catcher in late 2011, just to get through the zombie apocalypse. We are set to drive that baby right through the doors of perception and on into the mystical land of the self transforming machine elves. That or we'll just go to Disney, whatever.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on May 21, 2008, 02:43:38 PM
2012 is the year La Lohan, Brit, and the Simpson sisters enter into hardcore fetish porn.

Oh, and Avril too.














And Xtina.














And Scarlett Johansen.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on May 21, 2008, 02:48:02 PM
The above is the best response, ever.

Also, as to the Original Poster:
Quote from: The Unwritten Part...given enough time and ingenuity on the part of the demonstrator.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: e on May 22, 2008, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: jelly_of_no_doom on May 21, 2008, 01:52:08 PM
2012 and what Many Things that may Come To Pass.

Many Things Come To Pass in every year, but nobody really cares.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 22, 2008, 02:24:56 AM
In 2012, our solar system will once again pass through Beta Tapiocus, resetting history and making way for the Fifth Race.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: e on May 22, 2008, 04:48:46 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 22, 2008, 02:24:56 AM
In 2012, our solar system will once again pass through Beta Tapiocus, resetting history and making way for the Fifth Race.

Not to mention getting everybody sticky.  Goddamn Fifth Race, getting shit all sticky like that.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: AFK on May 22, 2008, 02:34:41 PM
Everyone gets fucked by a duck. 
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on May 22, 2008, 02:36:09 PM
YOU WRANG?
          \
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Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 22, 2008, 04:45:04 PM
AACK!

man that movie scared the shit out of me when i was a kid.

also: in 2012 Santa Cupcake will arise from a deep sleep not unlike the mighty Cthulhu and rape your saniteez with a single glance from his drooping eye.

he will then march through the lands causing all who see him to go stark raving mad, burn down their villages and set themselves ablaze.

the animals will shriek in horror, a shriek never before heard by one of earths creatures, and their heads will explode from the sound.

the rivers will turn to sweet sweet sucrose and become undrinkable

plant matter will all shrivel and die and the earth shall become a barren wasteland and join mars in it's uninhabitability.

and yet alone, in the madness and the muck... there will stand...

Santa Cupcake.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: e on May 22, 2008, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: Squid on May 22, 2008, 04:45:04 PM
Santa Cupcake.

Isn't that up in the hills somewhere near Santa Barbara?

Holy fuck I was just joking but...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=santa+cupcake&sll=34.451652,-119.698792&sspn=0.247433,0.642014&ie=UTF8&z=11
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 22, 2008, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: TheStripèdOne on May 22, 2008, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: Squid on May 22, 2008, 04:45:04 PM
Santa Cupcake.

Isn't that up in the hills somewhere near Santa Barbara?

Holy fuck I was just joking but...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=santa+cupcake&sll=34.451652,-119.698792&sspn=0.247433,0.642014&ie=UTF8&z=11

:lulz:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Mangrove on May 22, 2008, 06:16:06 PM
Indigo Pets. The world's most intelligent dogs & cats will take over the world*






*By take over the world, I mean they will continue to destroy your house, steal food, poop and get hair on your furniture. So basically like 2011 then.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on May 22, 2008, 06:24:30 PM
Speaking of which, how's that project coming?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Dr. Pataphoros, SpD on May 22, 2008, 06:30:44 PM
The year 2012 will be the end of the world, but not in the way we think of the world ending.  During the early months of that ominous year war and strife will come to a frenzied head worldwide as the mad rush for resources escalates.  Of course, all of the resources gathered go directly into fueling the war effort.

During the summer of 2012 the citizens of the world will get fed up with it all and, while all of the soldiers are off in various parts of the world blowing themselves up, they will rise up and displace their respective governments.  With no one left telling them to keep fighting, the soldiers of the world will go home, except for the stubborn ones who will end up killing themselves off anyhow.  The people of the world, free from the opression of government and lacking any major industrial infrastructure, are forced to band together and work towards mutual survival.  Small, self-sufficient anarchistic communities will become the norm.

The society birthed from this ruined world will be free from the trappings that held us back before.  All of the stresses and pains of our fast paced world will cease to exist.  With more time than ever to put toward intellectual persuits, we will eventually awaken the dormant parts of our brains.  With newfound mental powers at our disposal, we will have something new to fight about.  Psychic wars will ravage the land, and only the most powerful minds will survive.  Having transcended normal phisical form, these few will attempt to foster new life on our now ruined world.  Starting at the beginning, these beings of pure thought will guide the lifeless planet through the necessary stages of evolution, eventually producing a race that resembles humankind.  Unfortunately, this new race of humanity will be just as flawed as the original.  

Thinking the former humans that aided in their evolution to be the gods who created their world, the neo-humans will worship their powerful masters.  The proto-humans will get fed up with the hassle of restoring the world to it's glory and simply leave, calling it a failed attempt.  The neo-humans will build many civilizations, all tainted by the worship of absent beings, and eventually they'll start to argue about who is right concerning the matter.  This fight will go on for about 2,000 years.  Resources will be gobbled up to fuel the endless wars, until war and strife come to a frenzied head worldwide as the mad rush for resources escalates.  

Lather, rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on May 22, 2008, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Dr. Pataphoros, SpD on May 22, 2008, 06:30:44 PM
The year 2012 will be the end of the world, but not in the way we think of the world ending.  During the early months of that ominous year war and strife will come to a frenzied head worldwide as the mad rush for resources escalates.  Of course, all of the resources gathered go directly into fueling the war effort.

During the summer of 2012 the citizens of the world will get fed up with it all and, while all of the soldiers are off in various parts of the world blowing themselves up, they will rise up and displace their respective governments.  With no one left telling them to keep fighting, the soldiers of the world will go home, except for the stubborn ones who will end up killing themselves off anyhow.  The people of the world, free from the opression of government and lacking any major industrial infrastructure, are forced to band together and work towards mutual survival.  Small, self-sufficient anarchistic communities will become the norm.

The society birthed from this ruined world will be free from the trappings that held us back before.  All of the stresses and pains of our fast paced world will cease to exist.  With more time than ever to put toward intellectual persuits, we will eventually awaken the dormant parts of our brains.  With newfound mental powers at our disposal, we will have something new to fight about.  Psychic wars will ravage the land, and only the most powerful minds will survive.  Having transcended normal phisical form, these few will attempt to foster new life on our now ruined world.  Starting at the beginning, these beings of pure thought will guide the lifeless planet through the necessary stages of evolution, eventually producing a race that resembles humankind.  Unfortunately, this new race of humanity will be just as flawed as the original.  

Thinking the former humans that aided in their evolution to be the gods who created their world, the neo-humans will worship their powerful masters.  The proto-humans will get fed up with the hassle of restoring the world to it's glory and simply leave, calling it a failed attempt.  The neo-humans will build many civilizations, all tainted by the worship of absent beings, and eventually they'll start to argue about who is right concerning the matter.  This fight will go on for about 2,000 years.  Resources will be gobbled up to fuel the endless wars, until war and strife come to a frenzied head worldwide as the mad rush for resources escalates.  

Lather, rinse, repeat.

So far, this is the best thing I've read all day.  It's like an Arthur C Clarke novel.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Dr. Pataphoros, SpD on May 22, 2008, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 22, 2008, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Dr. Pataphoros, SpD on May 22, 2008, 06:30:44 PM
The year 2012 will be the end of the world, but not in the way we think of the world ending.  During the early months of that ominous year war and strife will come to a frenzied head worldwide as the mad rush for resources escalates.  Of course, all of the resources gathered go directly into fueling the war effort.

During the summer of 2012 the citizens of the world will get fed up with it all and, while all of the soldiers are off in various parts of the world blowing themselves up, they will rise up and displace their respective governments.  With no one left telling them to keep fighting, the soldiers of the world will go home, except for the stubborn ones who will end up killing themselves off anyhow.  The people of the world, free from the opression of government and lacking any major industrial infrastructure, are forced to band together and work towards mutual survival.  Small, self-sufficient anarchistic communities will become the norm.

The society birthed from this ruined world will be free from the trappings that held us back before.  All of the stresses and pains of our fast paced world will cease to exist.  With more time than ever to put toward intellectual persuits, we will eventually awaken the dormant parts of our brains.  With newfound mental powers at our disposal, we will have something new to fight about.  Psychic wars will ravage the land, and only the most powerful minds will survive.  Having transcended normal phisical form, these few will attempt to foster new life on our now ruined world.  Starting at the beginning, these beings of pure thought will guide the lifeless planet through the necessary stages of evolution, eventually producing a race that resembles humankind.  Unfortunately, this new race of humanity will be just as flawed as the original.  

Thinking the former humans that aided in their evolution to be the gods who created their world, the neo-humans will worship their powerful masters.  The proto-humans will get fed up with the hassle of restoring the world to it's glory and simply leave, calling it a failed attempt.  The neo-humans will build many civilizations, all tainted by the worship of absent beings, and eventually they'll start to argue about who is right concerning the matter.  This fight will go on for about 2,000 years.  Resources will be gobbled up to fuel the endless wars, until war and strife come to a frenzied head worldwide as the mad rush for resources escalates.  

Lather, rinse, repeat.

So far, this is the best thing I've read all day.  It's like an Arthur C Clarke novel.

Thanks!  And I do like me some Arthur C. Clarke.  Kinda makes me wanna run through the Rama series again.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Fractalbeard on June 11, 2008, 03:55:21 AM
According to wikipedia, our all-knowing online entity, regarding the year 2012:

"December 21 — The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the Maya civilization among others of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BC August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283).[6] The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Monument 6) that records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed.[7] However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next."

Oddly enough, to get the 23 thing out of my system, December 23 is supposed to be an alternative date for this to happen.

In short: the Mayan calendar resets, causing a cataclysmic Y2K event (i.e. nothing at all) to happen to an already dead society.  Or something like that.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 11, 2008, 04:15:41 AM
what is 5 and 23 suppose to be significant or something?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on June 11, 2008, 04:23:43 AM
To some.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 11, 2008, 05:12:12 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 11, 2008, 04:15:41 AM
what is 5 and 23 suppose to be significant or something?

Apparently, if you're creative enough,you can relate nearly all numerical information to the numbers 5 and/or 23.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2008, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: Hawaiianback Gorilla on June 11, 2008, 03:55:21 AM
According to wikipedia, our all-knowing online entity, regarding the year 2012:

"December 21 — The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the Maya civilization among others of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BC August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283).[6] The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Monument 6) that records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed.[7] However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next."

Oddly enough, to get the 23 thing out of my system, December 23 is supposed to be an alternative date for this to happen.

In short: the Mayan calendar resets, causing a cataclysmic Y2K event (i.e. nothing at all) to happen to an already dead society.  Or something like that.

Thats pretty much my interpretation too.  I'm not worried about looking stupid if I'm wrong and the fifth and final universe or whatever it is comes into being, I'm pretty sure no-one will remember me mocking them.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Mangrove on June 11, 2008, 01:32:07 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 22, 2008, 06:24:30 PM
Speaking of which, how's that project coming?

stalled because i suck  :cry:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Fractalbeard on June 12, 2008, 05:15:49 AM
Y'know, speaking of Y2K, maybe this 2012 thing could be turned into some kind of Y2K-esque mindfuck thing.  Perhaps some bullshit about the quantum resonance of matter follows some blah blah pattern that the Mayans figured out, and the universe's master clock is going to reset, possibly resulting in the horrid destruction of all matter, living and nonliving, that hasn't been "upgraded" in some screwed up absurd way.  Or some crazy crap along those lines.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2008, 11:23:18 AM
Unfortunately, I don't think anything we could come up would be as crazy and pseudo-scientific than what is actually being talked about (for more see: polar shift theory, Nibiru etc)
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 12, 2008, 01:37:14 PM
me and my friends used Y2K as an excuse to through a really bitching party

this seems such an excuse
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cramulus on June 12, 2008, 03:28:33 PM
I'm reminded of a Simpsons episode in which somebody buries the skeleton of an angel (hoax) as an advertising gimmick for a newly built mall.

We can't do much to exacerbate the hilarious handwringing and OMG IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD hysteria, but we certainly can come up with a prank which capitalizes on it.

During the Y2K, my grandpa buired thousands of dollars worth of canned goods and valuables in his back yard. If 2012 hysteria is anything like Y2K hysteria, it's going to motivate people to do some pretty weird stuff. I only hope some prankster is there to take advantage of it.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2008, 03:29:44 PM
We could feed the media stories about end of world cultists and see how that feeds over into the end of world cultist discourse...
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cramulus on June 12, 2008, 03:46:46 PM
and this is exactly the sort of thing that
A) the adam weishaupt society
and
B) an automated forum robot who can post incoherent end-of-the-world jargon

are MADE for


disregard the fact that the AWS hasn't done anything in six months :-P

Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: NWC on June 12, 2008, 04:42:03 PM
I think the real question is: how to capitalize on a bunch of deluded schmucks thinking the world is going to end?

sell them soul-saving devices?

buy things from them really cheap and resell(preferably back to them, a year later) at ridiculous inflation?

or just find a few in whatever area you're in at the time, and throw rocks at their house on Dec. 23rd or whatever so they freak out? could be lulzy, could get you shot
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: greyseraph on June 12, 2008, 08:06:21 PM
So I had heard about 2012 from various places on the internet over the past year or so. But then a few weeks ago I decided to watch TV (it was a very lazy sunday) and on the history channel there was nothing but HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS CAN THE WORLD END IN 2012?! programming on for 6 hours. I was pretty shocked at how widespread this apocalyptic prophecy was.

I know I will certainly be standing vigilant by my compass waiting for the Earth's poles to reverse!
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on June 12, 2008, 08:08:05 PM
It's because people have been absorbing the global warming message for years, and anyone with a brain can figure out some bad shit is going to happen eventually.

It's just a matter of when.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: greyseraph on June 12, 2008, 09:09:37 PM
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1486/salvationbraceletnh6.jpg)

Bwuhahahah!

Now to sit back and rake in the profits.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 12, 2008, 09:10:20 PM
I used Y2K as an excuse to make lots of money from stupid corporations that payed through the nose to be 'proactively ready' and 'audit' all systems for Y2K compliance. The bonuses were particularly nice.

I would support scaring the s***t out of people if it means another windfall like that!  :lulz:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Suu on June 12, 2008, 09:44:56 PM
Quote from: greyseraph on June 12, 2008, 09:09:37 PM
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1486/salvationbraceletnh6.jpg)

Bwuhahahah!

Now to sit back and rake in the profits.

I want one just for the lulz.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 13, 2008, 08:36:18 AM
So, according to the Tsalagi calendar and all that, the 4th world is to end by the shifting of earth, and the 5th world is to begin. So why can I not find an appropriate DVD player for the occasion?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 13, 2008, 09:18:42 AM
Quote from: Suu on June 12, 2008, 09:44:56 PM
Quote from: greyseraph on June 12, 2008, 09:09:37 PM
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1486/salvationbraceletnh6.jpg)

Bwuhahahah!

Now to sit back and rake in the profits.

I want one just for the lulz.

HAH! You say that but we all know that, deep down inside, you're bricking it :lulz:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Triple Zero on June 18, 2008, 03:26:11 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 12, 2008, 09:10:20 PM
I used Y2K as an excuse to make lots of money from stupid corporations that payed through the nose to be 'proactively ready' and 'audit' all systems for Y2K compliance. The bonuses were particularly nice.

I would support scaring the s***t out of people if it means another windfall like that!  :lulz:

it's somewhere in 203x when the 32bit unix timestamp resets, afaik.

also, 2012 is to me important in the sense that there will undoubtedly be an AWESOME PARTY somewhere in south america at that date, and if i have the money, i plan to be there.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Fractalbeard on June 22, 2008, 02:13:51 PM
WOOOOOOO! PARTY IN THE SOUTHERN US!!!!!  :lulz::lulz: :fap:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on June 23, 2008, 01:32:32 PM
Quote from: Hawaiianback Gorilla on June 22, 2008, 02:13:51 PM
WOOOOOOO! PARTY IN THE SOUTHERN US!!!!!  :lulz::lulz: :fap:

So, we're gonna annex the southern hemisphere by 2012?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Fractalbeard on June 26, 2008, 02:57:42 AM
Rofl, oops, Americas. I R genius. Sorry about the geographical brain fart. :fnord:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: F.N.S. on July 28, 2008, 06:32:58 PM
in 2012 the UK gov are going to try stage a fake second coming at the Olympic games.

when the Messiah comes, hide!

(hello, BTW, I'm new here)
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2008, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: F.N.S. on July 28, 2008, 06:32:58 PM
in 2012 the UK gov are going to try stage a fake second coming at the Olympic games.

when the Messiah comes, hide!

(hello, BTW, I'm new here)

Beckham's going to be on the Soccer Football team?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2008, 06:52:24 PM
Beckham?


Get bent!
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2008, 06:54:35 PM
Ouch, then I'll end up in the ER. 
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2008, 06:55:22 PM
Shit.  I didn't get that one.


I must be too Posh.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2008, 06:57:20 PM
Ehh, I went too obtuse.  The Indian girl is on ER, the show.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on July 28, 2008, 07:13:08 PM
Ali G: so tell me, does Brooklyn like your music, or is he getting a bit too old for it now?

Posh Spice:  He does, he does like music.  He jigs about and dances around and enjoys it.

Ali G: Respect.

Posh Spice: A footballer with rhythm.

Ali G: So tell me, is your little boy starting to put all sentences together?

Posh Spice: He's saying little bits and pieces, yeah.

Ali G:  and what about Brooklyn?

*laughter*

Ali G:  so do you want him to grow up to be a footballer, like his dad, or a singer, like Mariah Carey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P842Tmi6lrc
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: I_Kicked_Kennedy on August 01, 2008, 06:05:16 PM

So, have we come to a consensus on how Discordians will capitalize on 2012 hysteria?

Sorta like all the Y2K patches and billions of dollars nerds made before the NASDAQ poomped?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cramulus on August 01, 2008, 07:25:03 PM
yeah I think the plan is
"get drunk"
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: AFK on August 01, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
What about 8-8-8?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cramulus on August 01, 2008, 08:00:01 PM
yeah I think the plan is
"get drunk"
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: AFK on August 01, 2008, 08:08:05 PM
GR8!
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Random Probability on August 05, 2008, 05:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 01, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
What about 8-8-8?

8-8-8?  Isn't that the new "punch an emo" day or something?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 08:18:00 AM
Hi, I'm a new member and (I think this happens a lot but please feel free to correct me) have been a discordian all my life, only didn't realise it at first, or maybe I did and just forgot to tell myself that...so much was going on and my memory isn't what it's going to have been, you know?

Anyway, I'm also a sensative and I have a pretty good idea what is going to happen.  Not a strict immanetisement perhaps but a metaphysical shift will take place.  Anyone who has heard of the Lovecraftian lliogor may have experienced things which may well be them and I seriously believe I have done, and they are becoming more common, ie they are drawing more energy from current attitudes and conflicts.  I'll give anyone whose interested a detailed description of the three clearest encounters I've had (two where sceptics have been roped in unwittingly as witnesses and subsequently illuminated) but I shan't bore folk now....

point is something is happening and chains of events are being linked together, by whom  I cannot say, but how could Eris not, being an avatar of Chaos, be there for the party?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on August 29, 2008, 09:25:40 AM
Have you read any Daniel Pinchbeck (sp?) by any chance?  I believe his attitude is that there is so much happening currently, that simply the energy and focus being placed on 2012 will allow for a shift in attitudes towards a number of things.

I dunno, it seems unlikely, but it may fit into your hypothesis as well.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 09:48:08 AM
Hi there!  I think you may be right and, although I haven't read the author you mention I have read about St Tielhard (a Jesuit...hmmm) and his 2012 Omega point theories....

I think the whole Christian thing of Revelation is a corruption of both that and earlier ideas; a revelation of sorts and awareness of what is beyond our ken.....perhaps time for other beings, be they extraterrestrial, spiritual or just 'other' to reveal themselves to all or a select number.  My theory rests on the fact that human evolution has gone as far as it needs to physically so any further evolution we make (unless the environment drastically alters overnight) will be a mental one....either our senses, our outlook, our 'abilities'...


maybe just humans accepting there are other forms of 'life' which science cannot yet classify and that we're not the dominant species either....something will change I think


this is what i call a hunch as I 'know' it to some degree but couldn't tell you how I do....if you follow, which you probably don't!  lol
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Triple Zero on August 29, 2008, 12:20:45 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 08:18:00 AMAnyway, I'm also a sensative

What's that?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 12:31:12 PM
Quote from: triple zero on August 29, 2008, 12:20:45 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 08:18:00 AMAnyway, I'm also a sensative

What's that?

I don't deal with criticism well and like weepy movies  :wink:

No seriously  :D I'm, shall we say, more open to seeing what is, to quote the Great Pratchett, really there.

spirits, other entities, shadows and whispers and so forth....hard to explain.  I don't like the term 'psychic' as it's The Man's word and sounds too similar to 'psycho'
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on August 29, 2008, 01:10:05 PM
Hi Lupe,

You seem like a nice person, so I'll say this now, before any potential shit goes down:

Some of the people here are pretty skeptical about anything that smells of Magick or the Paranormal.

Some of them can get pretty mean about it too.


If, after getting a taste, you don't want to deal, the Eris Bar & Grill (http://www.erisbarandgrill.com) may have the kind of people you're looking for.



But if you enjoy gallows humor, horromirth, laughing until screaming, screaming until laughing, self-deprication, cynicism, and militant subjectivism, you've come to the right place.

Check out "Or Kill Me" for rants and mouth-foaming goodness, and "Think for Yourself, Schmuck!" for pieces on expanding/updating Discordian thinking.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
Thanks very much for the update LMNO, I do appreciate your nice welcome, mate *bows*

I know, old old saying about understanding, fear and hate eh?

You seem like a nice chap too yourself so I thank you once more..

oh and don't worry, I can handle the flamers, I find their efforts both amusing and, at times, a challenge... they shall harm me not...but I may well visit the zones of the likeminded you mention  :)


"Contol belief and you get belief in control and then people forget about being controlled and simply believe."
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on August 29, 2008, 01:46:54 PM
Motherfuck.  You really are Irish, aren't you?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on August 29, 2008, 01:51:57 PM
This board is still more occult than EB&G.  Unless under 10 posts a day is some sort of Kabbalah ritual they partake in.

Hang around here instead.  I don't mind occult-y sorts, so long as thats not all they bring to the table (like most people, really), and they're not TROO REAL OCCULT MASTERS FROM BEYOND TIME AND SPACE.  IOW, Grant Morrison-esque sorts are fine.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 01:53:18 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on August 29, 2008, 01:55:13 PM
BUT I HAZ MIND-BULLETS!
   \
:walken:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 02:25:49 PM
now I is confuzzled and so forth...but such is the essence of Discordia is it not?

I shall pluralise myself and do both then, or neither if i so feel ;)

ahhhh I could be a true master of things that are less cult than the norm but that'd be telling wouldn't it?  mwhaahahaa

I'm not though but my mind is open, except when it might get dirty....well for a given value of dirty anyway
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on August 29, 2008, 02:29:15 PM
Yeah, I think you'll do fine here.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: AFK on August 29, 2008, 02:29:31 PM
what?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on August 29, 2008, 02:31:39 PM
a finely tuned sense of Ahfeckitness certainly seems to help I have noticed 8)

cheers for the welcome though, like i care  :lulz:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on August 29, 2008, 06:13:23 PM
I, too, am much into both the occult and the paranormal. 
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on August 30, 2008, 04:53:07 PM
I'm not.  I just read that stuff for shits and giggles.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on August 30, 2008, 05:19:38 PM
For shits and giggles I read the news.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: the last yatto on August 30, 2008, 11:34:34 PM
its like a tuning fork
some know how the fucking thing works others are like  :?

Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 31, 2008, 01:31:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 30, 2008, 04:53:07 PM
I'm not.  I just read that stuff for shits and giggles.

STFU. We all know you have your robe and wizard hat stuffed away somewhere.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on August 31, 2008, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 31, 2008, 01:31:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 30, 2008, 04:53:07 PM
I'm not.  I just read that stuff for shits and giggles.

STFU. We all know you have your robe and wizard hat stuffed away somewhere.

I put on my robe and wizard's hat, and cast Lvl 8 eroticism.  You are now a beautiful woman.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cramulus on August 31, 2008, 01:24:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 31, 2008, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 31, 2008, 01:31:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 30, 2008, 04:53:07 PM
I'm not.  I just read that stuff for shits and giggles.

STFU. We all know you have your robe and wizard hat stuffed away somewhere.

I put on my robe and wizard's hat, and cast Lvl 8 eroticism.  You are now a beautiful woman.

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/cainadface.png)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/wizard9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Cain on August 31, 2008, 01:55:10 PM
 :rpger:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 01, 2008, 09:39:36 AM
Not really magic...that stufff doesn't work really...Headology is better

It's all in your head really and, perhaps the best way of putting it, in the Universe's head.  Magic is influencing things and belief, not flashes and fancy lights
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on September 02, 2008, 01:00:36 PM
Terry Pratchett has early onset Alzheimer's.



Either that, or Vetineri's finally gotten to him.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on September 02, 2008, 01:44:24 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 01, 2008, 09:39:36 AM
Not really magic...that stufff doesn't work really...Headology is better

It's all in your head really and, perhaps the best way of putting it, in the Universe's head.  Magic is influencing things and belief, not flashes and fancy lights
:|

Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Triple Zero on September 02, 2008, 02:09:17 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 02, 2008, 01:44:24 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 01, 2008, 09:39:36 AM
Not really magic...that stufff doesn't work really...Headology is better

It's all in your head really and, perhaps the best way of putting it, in the Universe's head.  Magic is influencing things and belief, not flashes and fancy lights
:|

one, 50.
two, actually i think this is one of the more sensible things he's said, considering the "i saw beings made of light outside the visible spectrum" from the other thread. and magic being in the universe's head is not a bad way to describe the few things about magic that might actually work.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on September 02, 2008, 09:08:41 PM
I pay no attention to the "50 post rule".

Perhaps I misunderstood his statement, though.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2008, 01:14:57 AM
Quote from: LMNO on August 29, 2008, 02:29:15 PM
Yeah, I think you'll do fine here.

RUBBISH!   :argh!:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 08:28:22 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 02, 2008, 09:08:41 PM
I pay no attention to the "50 post rule".

Perhaps I misunderstood his statement, though.

sorry dude, I did explain it perhaps badly or in a rushed way...i did just post a better explaination on the 'other lifeform' thread...that a lot of what we consider supernatural is perfectly natural.....the famous unused portion of our brains, senses outside of the normal 5, science not being as omniscient as science itself has conditioned us into believing....the list goes on.  Magic is manifestation of other aspects of the human mind and the world around us, the universe itself, which science cannot explain and therefore avers does not exist.  But I've had an experience with magic which is undeniable.  I had a spell cast at me by someone and knew, the instant it was cast, that it had been and have no explaination as to why, I had no way of knowing either, as I was in the Uk and she was in the USA and we had not been in contact for some time, but i knew.....stream of conciousness and universal conciousness is one idea.....read Dan Simmons Endymion for an idea on what i think it could be...

so I'm not poo-pooing magic as a phenomenon...I am a firm believer in some forms of it, merely that the flashy lights and so forth are individual, how one person experiences it, not the norm. 

To me part of the answer is electromagnetism....any psychic ever noticed static discharge before and ever found out not everyone else experiences that?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2008, 12:54:26 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 08:28:22 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 02, 2008, 09:08:41 PM
I pay no attention to the "50 post rule".

Perhaps I misunderstood his statement, though.

sorry dude, I did explain it perhaps badly or in a rushed way...i did just post a better explaination on the 'other lifeform' thread...that a lot of what we consider supernatural is perfectly natural.....the famous unused portion of our brains, senses outside of the normal 5, science not being as omniscient as science itself has conditioned us into believing....the list goes on.  Magic is manifestation of other aspects of the human mind and the world around us, the universe itself, which science cannot explain and therefore avers does not exist.  But I've had an experience with magic which is undeniable.  I had a spell cast at me by someone and knew, the instant it was cast, that it had been and have no explaination as to why, I had no way of knowing either, as I was in the Uk and she was in the USA and we had not been in contact for some time, but i knew.....stream of conciousness and universal conciousness is one idea.....read Dan Simmons Endymion for an idea on what i think it could be...

so I'm not poo-pooing magic as a phenomenon...I am a firm believer in some forms of it, merely that the flashy lights and so forth are individual, how one person experiences it, not the norm. 

To me part of the answer is electromagnetism....any psychic ever noticed static discharge before and ever found out not everyone else experiences that?

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2008, 01:14:57 AM
Quote from: LMNO on August 29, 2008, 02:29:15 PM
Yeah, I think you'll do fine here.

RUBBISH!   :argh!:


I stand corrected.

A Useful Tool. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor)
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: hooplala on September 03, 2008, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 08:28:22 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 02, 2008, 09:08:41 PM
I pay no attention to the "50 post rule".

Perhaps I misunderstood his statement, though.

sorry dude, I did explain it perhaps badly or in a rushed way...i did just post a better explaination on the 'other lifeform' thread...that a lot of what we consider supernatural is perfectly natural.....the famous unused portion of our brains, senses outside of the normal 5, science not being as omniscient as science itself has conditioned us into believing....the list goes on.  Magic is manifestation of other aspects of the human mind and the world around us, the universe itself, which science cannot explain and therefore avers does not exist.  But I've had an experience with magic which is undeniable.  I had a spell cast at me by someone and knew, the instant it was cast, that it had been and have no explaination as to why, I had no way of knowing either, as I was in the Uk and she was in the USA and we had not been in contact for some time, but i knew.....stream of conciousness and universal conciousness is one idea.....read Dan Simmons Endymion for an idea on what i think it could be...

so I'm not poo-pooing magic as a phenomenon...I am a firm believer in some forms of it, merely that the flashy lights and so forth are individual, how one person experiences it, not the norm. 

To me part of the answer is electromagnetism....any psychic ever noticed static discharge before and ever found out not everyone else experiences that?

Ah, yes, I did misunderstand you.  I should start reading entire posts instead of just scanning for my name.

I pretty much agree with you.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Triple Zero on September 03, 2008, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 03, 2008, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 08:28:22 AM
sorry dude, I did explain it perhaps badly or in a rushed way...i did just post a better explaination on the 'other lifeform' thread...that a lot of what we consider supernatural is perfectly natural.....the famous unused portion of our brains, senses outside of the normal 5, science not being as omniscient as science itself has conditioned us into believing....the list goes on.  Magic is manifestation of other aspects of the human mind and the world around us, the universe itself, which science cannot explain and therefore avers does not exist.  But I've had an experience with magic which is undeniable.  I had a spell cast at me by someone and knew, the instant it was cast, that it had been and have no explaination as to why, I had no way of knowing either, as I was in the Uk and she was in the USA and we had not been in contact for some time, but i knew.....stream of conciousness and universal conciousness is one idea.....read Dan Simmons Endymion for an idea on what i think it could be...

so I'm not poo-pooing magic as a phenomenon...I am a firm believer in some forms of it, merely that the flashy lights and so forth are individual, how one person experiences it, not the norm. 

To me part of the answer is electromagnetism....any psychic ever noticed static discharge before and ever found out not everyone else experiences that?

Ah, yes, I did misunderstand you.  I should start reading entire posts instead of just scanning for my name.

I pretty much agree with you.

really? explain me about the electromagnetism please?

also:

Quote from: dogshoesTo me part of the answer is electromagnetism....any psychic ever noticed static discharge before and ever found out not everyone else experiences that?

UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

NNN

...

N

NNNNG!
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 03:35:37 PM
well various animals have some form of electromagnetic sense; dolphins, whales, sharks, wolves and many migratory birds.  They use it to navigate and/or locate prey.  Seeing as humans were, early in our development a nomadic species (so we're told) as well as hunters we could well have had some form of electromagnetic sense.  Now some people theorise that so called 'spiritual entities' are silicon, rather than carbon based.  Therefore these beings would emit EM signatures which can be detected and also cause effects on the environment around them.  Common manifestation traits are things such as wind/drafts, a drop in temperature and/or air pressure.  An EM pulse on low frequency in a localised area can cause some of these effects. 

Now the thing i describe is this; I occasionally experience something I can only call a static discharge.  It feels no more and no less like your body shedding electricity of the static variety, you can sometimes even feel the feint 'crack' as when one touches the neck or hand of a friend after rubbing ones shoes on nylon matting for a laugh (you know what i mean i hope), but this feels like the whole body sheds the charge.  Now I always thought this was common and that everyone experienced it but it happened to me once recently and made me shudder, my wife asked what I was doing (as wives invariably do) and I offhandedly told her; she had no idea what I meant.  I have since discovered that a number of alleged psychics also experience this and wondered weather there was perhaps a link?  Is the ability of some people to see spirits related to or merely a by-product of this rediscovered electromagnetic sense? I always seem to know where I am and never get lost but that could be unrelated. 

So the simple premise is this; are so called spirits simply silicon-based beings who have bodies made differently to ours and are thus invisible to the majority (they diffract rather than absorb light) but can be sensed by those who possess this 'lost' sense?  Ties in with my belief that many 'abilities' are linked to other 'lost senses'.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2008, 03:50:00 PM
Then again, it could be all quantum.

Or it's equally possible that Jesus did it.



LMNO
-when it's purely conjecture, all answers have the same truth value.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 04:29:30 PM
that too, everything else is (more TP mat? shame on you!)....just theories or ideas of mine but in no way definate, incontrovertible truth.....don't believe in that, truth is subjective you see

Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Mangrove on September 03, 2008, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 03, 2008, 03:50:00 PM
Then again, it could be all quantum.

Or it's equally possible that Jesus did it.



LMNO
-when it's purely conjecture, all answers have the same truth value.

Crap. You just reminded me. I never found that 'Quantum Physics/New Testament' book I saw in a book warehouse a few years ago.

:sad:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2008, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 04:29:30 PM
that too, everything else is (more TP mat? shame on you!)....just theories or ideas of mine but in no way definate, incontrovertible truth.....don't believe in that, some kinds of truth is subjective you see, for a given definition of "true".

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 04:58:12 PM
why thank you kind sir *bow*
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 03, 2008, 05:00:05 PM
lol don't worry Hoopla, I do that sometimes too....seems to upset some people...no idea why like?
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: the last yatto on January 13, 2009, 09:12:23 AM
 :taco:
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: Quercus on January 26, 2009, 03:13:19 AM
Well.....my fiance and I did have our original wedding date planned for 5 May, 2012 (How many 5s can you get? And this wasn't even planned), however we determined that we would be graduating that day with various degrees (woot MS!) and decided on 5 August.
Title: Re: 2012: what is it other than another convoluted way to obtain "5" and "23"
Post by: dudektria on March 30, 2009, 03:42:56 PM
I think it will be the end of the world WE KNOW.
And the birth of a world WE DON'T KNOW.
Whatever, McKenna damn created a damn hoax! SOKOSAKOSKOSAK
That's what I don't think.