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hell yeah, fuck em up!

hell yeah cram, and that's an excellent poster qgp!

having to wait in line to commit some war 

*reads title*

OK

*stops doing something he wasn't doing anyway*

That was easier than I thought.

not like that 

About Lincoln, this is the statue in Boston BLM is objecting to.

I'm pretty sure I can understand why someone wouldn't want to see themselves as some sort of helpless savage genuflecting to a white savior.

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gross

Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?

It doesn't seem simple to me.

Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws.  The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.

I don't see any need to negotiate, though.  There are no statues to Adolf Hitler, and everyone remembers who he was.  The statues were put up decades after the civil war as an intimidation tactic.

Tear 'em down.

oops, doc beat me

Is it the prevailing view on the board that there is no valid arguments against the statue destructions?

It doesn't seem simple to me.

Hmm... Perhaps it would be more effective to erect statues of these historical figures showcasing their flaws.  The opposition could rail against the ideas conveyed, but they would not have the righteous indignation that is lent by witnessing the destruction of historical public property.

i heard an opinion from either john oliver, stephen colbert, or possibly treor noah that was basically "we don't have statues up for hitler, but we know what he did." i tend to agree that statues don't promote discussion, they promote admiration by virtue of "wow, that guy got turned into a statue, he must have been important" to your average person who doesn't care about history.

Warren Ellis unreservedly admitted what happened, with the only out he gave himself being he didn't realise he had any position of power.
He doesnt go into specifics, just apologised for everything and deplatformed himself

oh.

my stance is to trust, but verify
by default, I believe women when they come forward with these things

this is what i default to, as well, and it's. difficult. for me to face that sometimes i get overzealous in my trust, and negligent in my verify.

then i agreed with everything else, plus

the real clincher?

Will Ellis say "these women are all lying for personal gain"
or "I was an asshole, I'm sorry, and I'd like to be better"    ?

did anything come up? i stepped away from everything  because i was being irrational about it.

No. Im going to be blunt about this:
I do not suppport him
I do not support them
I am not dismissing what they have said
I will not be making a judgement call on a person because of a twitter post
I will not be making a judgement of a person without hearing thier side of the story.

If that seems callous, tough. I expect more before I'm going to write someone off. I will not support an accusation without evidence or a chance for  both parties to respond, nor do I ignore it.

If you are asking for more you are asking for a leap of faith. Faith is something I have short supply of

you're right. i had a knee-jerk reaction, and it was shitty of me. sorry, faust.

that's totally fair, and honestly i was gone for a long time and while i was active here, i didn't really get my identity, or know it was a thing.

if an actual news outlet reported something without misrepresenting the facts for THE RATINGS i think i'd die of shock.

And to be clear I have actually had to deal with cishets fucking going "oh, it's so stressful, I'm so worried for all those people" and I've successfully driven them all to block me or avoid me now because I will not fucking HAVE IT, they can do something or shut the fuck up, by fucking god even the people who are being publicly hung in trees at this very fucking moment are doing shit for their queer groups, the white girls can shut the fuck up and get to work or stop whining about me being in danger, I'm so fucking mad

what a god damned mood. i'm lucky that i don't have to deal with this bullshit in the other spaces i inhabit, it's solidly queer or queer positive cishet without the performative nonsense. i think if i did i'd lose my mind

reply redacted. i didn't know there were such screenshots. i apologize for saying what i said to you, should you have seen it. i would like to moderate what i said to faust but i'm still very pissed off and upset about the mentality like that that does exist i'm not sure yet how to go about it.

I got a rant on but I'm trying to regain my ability to keep the fucking rabies in check so all I'll say is my life-and-death situation and that of my queer siblings isn't for your fear, put your brain back at home or put work into fixing the lives of people who aren't your inner circle, none of this zero-investment "worry" bullshit, thanks

Tl;dr version is don't make my trauma about your mental fucking health

i'm queer too, why can't i just be open about my fear? as someone who doesn't leave the house i have the fear in more a vague sense, but my kid (also queer, also traumatized, maybe not as much as you but it's not a fucking contest), they're gonna be in very real danger when they start going back to school via the public bus, going about their life living their own honesty, and fuck you for trying to tell me i'm co-opting your trauma like you're the only one here who has it.

it's scary. i'm housebound and the kid is fragile, so we don't go out much to begin with, and i'm lucky to have found a queer positive school for them so they're not being threatened and beat up like they were in public school, but i have a lot of fear for my lgbtq brothers, sisters, and siblings who are more at risk than we are.