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yeah badger yeah, I think the term is whatever?

do you even consider my viewpoint?

i acknowledged my lack of knowledge in the arena and commented on it no more....just because that stance doesn't work for me you resort to abuse, fine....not really helping in convincing me is it?


you refuse to accept my point of view too so how does that work?

Ok fine, I give up for today I think.....that was not my intention at all and if it came across like that then fair enough....I'm just stating that this is not what i believe, how exactly is that being a wanker?  Basically your opinion is, agree with what I believe in or you're a wanker?? Fuck you and the boat you came in on

THIS IS THE MOST BORING ARGUMENT EVER

BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT IT'S SOME FUCKING PINEALIST DOUCHEBAG ANNOUNCING HE'S FOUND THE ANSWERS AND POUTING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FALLING FOR HIS BULLSHIT

UNNNNGGHHHH

NOT found the answers; read the post and I said I hadn't found any answers; I was simply wondering if anyone else had any ideas...ah fuck it

horses for courses mate, that's all I can say...the scientific route did it for you and it didn't for me.

like I said, I think what i think and too stubborn to change now

if you've never experienced anything which could be termed paranormal then maybe you have never had a need to try and explain them, until you have, you won't need to.  I'm just saying some things I have experienced led to me seek answers and was curious

then i stand corrected and respectfully doff my hat....that's all I was asking about really.

I often get the sense that there is utterly no world beyond the observable, that there are no supernatural entities, nothing paranormal in the least.  It's hard to describe - it's like hearing a sound, but without tone or pitch, the kind of sound that you feel as vibrations in the organs less firmly tied down.  Only without vibrations, just... stillness.  The feelingness of being utterly alone, with only a handful of tailless apes on a rock ball kept from falling into absolute zero by nothing other than the happenstance of a fairly mediocre cosmic fusion reactor.

I know that what my senses, my intuitions, tell me are correct have not been confirmed or even supported directly by any controlled experiment (except in their lack of finding anything beyond the veil,) but I am deeply convinced that they are correct.



[On the subject of hard sf aliens: probably, but I doubt that any two such lifeforms are close enough in spacetime for either to contact the other while both are extant.  Assuming they develop in the direction of being able to communicate.]

I think that all depends on what you classify as 'observable'. What you or I can observe is so infinitesimally small compared to what's really there (as observed by scientific equipment, like microscopes and such), that I really have to wonder what else we're missing in our observations.

I think that there is far, far more 'out there', than we can possibly imagine. But it's not anything that we can sense in the normal ways. It's far more subtle than that. It's like where you describe a sound without vibration...only there is a vibration, and we can't feel it, just as we can't see things on the microscopic level without a microscope.

I was being sarcastic.  If Victory Wolf can hypothesize extranormal entities on the basis of 'colorless color,' then it stands to reason that I can posit the exact opposite on the basis of 'vibrationless sound.'

you posit whatever you like as far as I'm concerned.  If I don't accept it then that is my problem and not yours.  Anyone is entitled to beleive what they like as long as they never try and force it down my throat.  I was giving opinions which you can agree with or not.  You disagreed, fine

could be or could not be; I already said I don't know

could be chemical or physiological or could be something else; therre could be morer forces (i'm talking forces such as gravity etc here not literary/religio-mystic forces) at work in the universe which are beyond scientific means of explaination...

but there have been occurences which have been studied and recorded, though no explainations have been discovered. 

Plus I know people, including cynics, who have experienced the same things I have and cannot explain them either, so i'm not sure about nuerochemical imbalance...again your opinion is fine (also I've learnt that you never share personal experiences and/or information on a forum, ever!)...so i'll not go into details if that's ok with you.

I did miss that and shall blame the cold.

perhaps my science is out of date but I have read about conciousness being explained as a quantum standing wavefront (I'm not sure what it means but i understand it to mean a wave outside of the normal laws of spacetime, highly compressed information)..my brain is not working at it's best at the moment, please excuse poor construction etc...I think I'll leave this discussion for a day when I'm not feeling half asleep all the time if that's ok?   Not able to think as I normally would. 

I've never taken LSD and last used weed over 15 years ago so I fail to see the relevence of that comment.

thank you, then i shall not

such is life, I'm very busy and have a stinking cold and have had enough of arguing over a point i don't feel I made and, I suspect, am being wound up

never mind, I cannot be arsed now

I said it shows that such things are not strictly imaginatory but where did I cite proof positive, simply that it's possible, that's all.

I'm curious as to whether quantum theory could explain some things, I don't know and am keen to know.

I've already said I don't have answers so read what you like...

paranormal is a label which people use to qualify these occurences .

supposed phenomenon have been recorded and readings taken to show something happened but that explainations cannot be found.  I was wondering if maybe quantum theory can explain a few things?  Don't worry, I'll see what i can find myself