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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 04, 2014, 07:20:52 PM

Title: Chemical-free
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 04, 2014, 07:20:52 PM
https://twitter.com/ChemFreeBear
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on February 04, 2014, 07:46:42 PM
Related to Smokey the Bear?
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 04, 2014, 07:56:07 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on February 04, 2014, 07:46:42 PM
Related to Smokey the Bear?

Possibly. All I know is that he's quite interested in #chemicalfree, and correcting the people who say it.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Resigned Obligatorily on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 05, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?

It's really just someone who was sick of hearing chemical free. I have the same thing with hearing organic. Everything I could possibly eat is organic. The only thing that I eat that isn't organic is salt (NaCl. No carbon involved) and water (H2O. No carbon involved)

Chemical free is a stupid phrase. Doesn't really matter where it's coming from, it's a Twitter troll with an educational purpose.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Resigned Obligatorily on March 05, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?

It's really just someone who was sick of hearing chemical free. I have the same thing with hearing organic. Everything I could possibly eat is organic. The only thing that I eat that isn't organic is salt (NaCl. No carbon involved) and water (H2O. No carbon involved)

Chemical free is a stupid phrase. Doesn't really matter where it's coming from, it's a Twitter troll with an educational purpose.

Oh :D, ok.

Awesome! I recently went organic too.
I thought all that toxic food stuff was malarkey
and that people just were't using moderation, but I feel so much better!

I was pretty far under the appropriate weight, and I detoxed from all the coca cola and fast food, I craved it like never before. Now I'm actually close to being a healthy weight.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Bruno on March 05, 2014, 06:51:19 PM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?

It's really just someone who was sick of hearing chemical free. I have the same thing with hearing organic. Everything I could possibly eat is organic. The only thing that I eat that isn't organic is salt (NaCl. No carbon involved) and water (H2O. No carbon involved)

Chemical free is a stupid phrase. Doesn't really matter where it's coming from, it's a Twitter troll with an educational purpose.

I'm confused by the word "natural".  What is natural, and what isn't? Is an anthill natural? What about a strip-mall, or skyscraper?

It seems to mean "Made only by humans", which seems to be based on the belief that humans are separate from nature.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 05, 2014, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?

It's really just someone who was sick of hearing chemical free. I have the same thing with hearing organic. Everything I could possibly eat is organic. The only thing that I eat that isn't organic is salt (NaCl. No carbon involved) and water (H2O. No carbon involved)

Chemical free is a stupid phrase. Doesn't really matter where it's coming from, it's a Twitter troll with an educational purpose.

Oh :D, ok.

Awesome! I recently went organic too.
I thought all that toxic food stuff was malarkey
and that people just were't using moderation, but I feel so much better!

I was pretty far under the appropriate weight, and I detoxed from all the coca cola and fast food, I craved it like never before. Now I'm actually close to being a healthy weight.

You misunderstand me. Even toxic food is organic because it contains carbon compounds. Coca cola and fast food is organic. Synthetic food dyes are organic. Ritalin is organic.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 05, 2014, 06:55:04 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 05, 2014, 06:51:19 PM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?

It's really just someone who was sick of hearing chemical free. I have the same thing with hearing organic. Everything I could possibly eat is organic. The only thing that I eat that isn't organic is salt (NaCl. No carbon involved) and water (H2O. No carbon involved)

Chemical free is a stupid phrase. Doesn't really matter where it's coming from, it's a Twitter troll with an educational purpose.

I'm confused by the word "natural".  What is natural, and what isn't? Is an anthill natural? What about a strip-mall, or skyscraper?

It seems to mean "Made only by humans", which seems to be based on the belief that humans are separate from nature.

Yeah, that's an odd one too. If it's not natural, it shouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Resigned Obligatorily on March 06, 2014, 05:00:47 AM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?

It's really just someone who was sick of hearing chemical free. I have the same thing with hearing organic. Everything I could possibly eat is organic. The only thing that I eat that isn't organic is salt (NaCl. No carbon involved) and water (H2O. No carbon involved)

Chemical free is a stupid phrase. Doesn't really matter where it's coming from, it's a Twitter troll with an educational purpose.

Oh :D, ok.

Awesome! I recently went organic too.
I thought all that toxic food stuff was malarkey
and that people just were't using moderation, but I feel so much better!

I was pretty far under the appropriate weight, and I detoxed from all the coca cola and fast food, I craved it like never before. Now I'm actually close to being a healthy weight.

You misunderstand me. Even toxic food is organic because it contains carbon compounds. Coca cola and fast food is organic. Synthetic food dyes are organic. Ritalin is organic.

ROFL....  Indeed!

The movement against chemicals does wrongfully demonize all re-aligned particles. (synthesized substances)
Cannot create of destroy matter after all! Therefore everything is natural....

Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: MMIX on March 06, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
If only they could make chemical-free people -
          now that would be a breath of fresh air
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Resigned Obligatorily on March 06, 2014, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: MMIX on March 06, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
If only they could make chemical-free people -
          now that would be a breath of fresh air

Its called a computer?
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: MMIX on March 06, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 06, 2014, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: MMIX on March 06, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
If only they could make chemical-free people -
          now that would be a breath of fresh air

Its called a computer?

Nope


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/goblinhill/chem_body-595x1024_zps59a77a39.png) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/goblinhill/media/chem_body-595x1024_zps59a77a39.png.html)

chemical-free people would not exist, we are just a bunch of chemicals - same with chemical-free computers

note to self never try to explain a joke
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: LMNO on March 06, 2014, 01:57:19 PM
Quote from: MMIX on March 06, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
note to self never try to explain a joke

Especially to that douchecanoe.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
Individuals not getting the joke is an opportunity to branch a targetted meta joke, on the dumbasses tab, thereby extending the comedic value of the original joke.

Explaining the joke is a limited opportunity to capitalise via condescension/mockery but this quickly kills the funny.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on March 05, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 05, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
My art teacher (rip) was friends with the person who did the original Smokey the bear illustration.
It was a contest ran with a ton of entries from art schools.

I wonder where this is coming from?

It's really just someone who was sick of hearing chemical free. I have the same thing with hearing organic. Everything I could possibly eat is organic. The only thing that I eat that isn't organic is salt (NaCl. No carbon involved) and water (H2O. No carbon involved)

Chemical free is a stupid phrase. Doesn't really matter where it's coming from, it's a Twitter troll with an educational purpose.

Oh :D, ok.

Awesome! I recently went organic too.
I thought all that toxic food stuff was malarkey
and that people just were't using moderation, but I feel so much better!

I was pretty far under the appropriate weight, and I detoxed from all the coca cola and fast food, I craved it like never before. Now I'm actually close to being a healthy weight.

You misunderstand me. Even toxic food is organic because it contains carbon compounds. Coca cola and fast food is organic. Synthetic food dyes are organic. Ritalin is organic.

Yeah, but the "I just took a chemistry class" pedantry that refuses to acknowledge the agricultural definition is kind of juvenile on the same level as the "dihydrogen monoxide" joke, IMO.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
And for the interested, the term "organic" was originally applied to gardening using organic (as in carbon-life based) soil amendments rather than extracted nitrogen fertilizer. The definition has expanded to also exclude any other synthetic fertilizers or pesticides.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Faust on March 06, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: MMIX on March 06, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
Quote from: Obligatory Resignation on March 06, 2014, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: MMIX on March 06, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
If only they could make chemical-free people -
          now that would be a breath of fresh air

Its called a computer?

Nope


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/goblinhill/chem_body-595x1024_zps59a77a39.png) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/goblinhill/media/chem_body-595x1024_zps59a77a39.png.html)

chemical-free people would not exist, we are just a bunch of chemicals - same with chemical-free computers

note to self never try to explain a joke
Don't you ruin my hopes of one day being a sentient concept composed of nothing but angles.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: hirley0 on March 06, 2014, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 06, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Don't you ruin my hopes of one day being a sentient concept
composed of nothing but angles.

Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
Yeah, but the "I just took a chemistry class"   "dihydrogen monoxide" j oke, IMO.


My Myth thought of the ? weak
devided Math into Euclidian? c^2=a^2+b^2
& None ?/? Good{IMO Cosmologist are NONE
they tend toward spherical ? trig ????/

Moving along to none spherical UNIverse>
assume  'Verse is flying saucer shape ? pancake shape ? how about EGG
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: hirley0 on March 06, 2014, 04:17:29 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium


Maybe My point is,, I do not have a clue
ABout what to do, When EG&B reports offLIne
comprenda'  ?

Quote from: hirley0 on March 06, 2014, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 06, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
D.

Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
Y.


My My
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Faust on March 06, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: hirley0 on March 06, 2014, 04:17:29 PM

ABout what to do, When EG&B reports offLIne


Don't worry about that, if it's an issue with the grill just give us the heads up. If its something like the thing from last week its a server issue and it's something I need to fix.
Title: Re: Chemical-free 9:29 SW
Post by: hirley0 on March 06, 2014, 04:28:02 PM
97205  9:29:29.9 AM pSt


Quote from: Faust on March 06, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: hirley0 on March 06, 2014, 04:17:29 PM

ABout what to do, When EG&B reports offLIne


Don't worry about that, if it's an issue with the grill just give us the heads up. If its something like the thing from last week its a server issue and it's something I need to fix.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Reginald Ret on March 06, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
And for the interested, the term "organic" was originally applied to gardening using organic (as in carbon-life based) soil amendments rather than extracted nitrogen fertilizer. The definition has expanded to also exclude any other synthetic fertilizers or pesticides.
Many idiots are misusing the term though, so the dislike of the term is intelligible.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 05:29:09 PM
Sometimes an asshole subculture will adopt a good idea. This really fucks with the adoption of the good idea by the mainstream. It kinda happened with the green movement, decades ago, which is a shame cos if we'd taken more case of the planet back then, it might not be quite so on the verge of fuxx0red
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 06, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: :regret: on March 06, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
And for the interested, the term "organic" was originally applied to gardening using organic (as in carbon-life based) soil amendments rather than extracted nitrogen fertilizer. The definition has expanded to also exclude any other synthetic fertilizers or pesticides.
Many idiots are misusing the term though, so the dislike of the term is intelligible.

That is also irritating, in its own very special way.

But I think that when you go too far in the opposite direction, you just sound like a different kind of idiot. Like the "ALL GMOS ARE GOOD, YOU IGNORANT PLEBES" people. I'm like, stop, you're BOTH wrong!
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 06:13:46 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: :regret: on March 06, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
And for the interested, the term "organic" was originally applied to gardening using organic (as in carbon-life based) soil amendments rather than extracted nitrogen fertilizer. The definition has expanded to also exclude any other synthetic fertilizers or pesticides.
Many idiots are misusing the term though, so the dislike of the term is intelligible.

That is also irritating, in its own very special way.

But I think that when you go too far in the opposite direction, you just sound like a different kind of idiot. Like the "ALL GMOS ARE GOOD, YOU IGNORANT PLEBES" people. I'm like, stop, you're BOTH wrong!

There is no right and wrong, not on the kind of scale you're talking about with GM and Organic/chemical, there is a massive pile of good things and an equally massive pile of bad things. Applying reductionism to it, is like saying science is bad because nuculear bombz  :roll:
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 06, 2014, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 06:13:46 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: :regret: on March 06, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
And for the interested, the term "organic" was originally applied to gardening using organic (as in carbon-life based) soil amendments rather than extracted nitrogen fertilizer. The definition has expanded to also exclude any other synthetic fertilizers or pesticides.
Many idiots are misusing the term though, so the dislike of the term is intelligible.

That is also irritating, in its own very special way.

But I think that when you go too far in the opposite direction, you just sound like a different kind of idiot. Like the "ALL GMOS ARE GOOD, YOU IGNORANT PLEBES" people. I'm like, stop, you're BOTH wrong!

There is no right and wrong, not on the kind of scale you're talking about with GM and Organic/chemical, there is a massive pile of good things and an equally massive pile of bad things. Applying reductionism to it, is like saying science is bad because nuculear bombz  :roll:

Or "Because of the ECH thing, ALL genetic engineering is bad."
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 06:19:21 PM
Whoa - I just thought of a rule:

Because of _____ all _____ is bad.

Always solves to false, given any combination of words?
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 06, 2014, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 06:19:21 PM
Whoa - I just thought of a rule:

Because of _____ all _____ is bad.

Always solves to false, given any combination of words?

Hmm...

Iason, of the United States

So no.
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 06:30:43 PM
Quit trolling me, bitch, we all know every rule has an iason
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 06, 2014, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 06, 2014, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 06:19:21 PM
Whoa - I just thought of a rule:

Because of _____ all _____ is bad.

Always solves to false, given any combination of words?

Hmm...

Iason, of the United States

So no.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Chemical-free
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 06, 2014, 06:47:09 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 06, 2014, 06:13:46 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: :regret: on March 06, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 06, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
And for the interested, the term "organic" was originally applied to gardening using organic (as in carbon-life based) soil amendments rather than extracted nitrogen fertilizer. The definition has expanded to also exclude any other synthetic fertilizers or pesticides.
Many idiots are misusing the term though, so the dislike of the term is intelligible.

That is also irritating, in its own very special way.

But I think that when you go too far in the opposite direction, you just sound like a different kind of idiot. Like the "ALL GMOS ARE GOOD, YOU IGNORANT PLEBES" people. I'm like, stop, you're BOTH wrong!

There is no right and wrong, not on the kind of scale you're talking about with GM and Organic/chemical, there is a massive pile of good things and an equally massive pile of bad things. Applying reductionism to it, is like saying science is bad because nuculear bombz  :roll:

Yeah, pretty much exactly.

And of course, now the "Organic" label is slowly being replaced with "Sustainable", and that's even worse because while in many states in the US, including Oregon and California, there are ACTUAL LAWS and an ACTUAL LEGAL DEFINITION regarding what can and cannot be labeled "Organic", "Sustainable" is totally vague and unregulated.