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#1
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Bad Apples
June 16, 2020, 09:46:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2020, 07:23:21 PM
The Cato Institute used to have The National Police Misconduct Reporting Project, which covered a wide range of topics. They had to shut it down in 2017 due to a lack of funding, unfortunately, but the datasets might still exist, somewhere.


https://www.cato.org/blog/new-report-police-misconduct

May be a good resource.


If it wasn't already, let's add civil conspiracy and collusion to the list, as well. Prosecutors, judges, justices, peripheral LE Agencies, those kind officer folks in command of the ship, working together to enforce acts and statutes.  Man, that's going to be a lot of rotten fruit.  But there is hope in the Age of Organics Recycling en Masse!
We have the science. We have the technology.
#2
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Bad Apples
June 16, 2020, 06:35:20 PM
Why bother with apples when the tree itself, from root to trunk to branch, is rotten and diseased?

We can continue to selectively treat the apparent symptoms and that changes nothing.

We can pretend it will heal itself and that is a useless sentiment.

We can uproot the entire rotten mess but no one has the kind of machinery necessary to be remotely effective.
Plus, some other asshole will likely come along with another shitty-ass tree to fill the enormous power void left behind.

The police *physical* violence is simply the most visible violence perpetrated against the public and/or private citizens.  The police/court/government *institutional/bureaucratic/legal* malice perpetrated is not as visible. Practically invisible to those not being ground down by the "system." This is what allows the former to exist.

You know, sometimes negligent campers leave a fire unattended and an entire forest burns down.  Sometimes its due to dead, dry wood and a lightning strike.  Too much? Nah...What is seen as destruction allows for new growth and potential.
   
Cheers! :)
#3
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If you wanna call Eris a bitch, do it over there.  Way over there.

I don't *want* to call Eris a bitch, nor was the intent of my question to imply that she is.   Legit, want to see if there are perspectives not usually considered with regard to how this tale has been told.  If the general consensus is that Eris was pissed about not being invited to a wedding, showed up and was told to get lost, "dropped" an apple dedicated to the "prettiest" (which, btw, is a fucking brilliant move to cause turmoil amongst women in general lol), created a decade-long war amongst mortals and milennia-long stereotype about Greeks and gifts, then who am I to argue with the general consensus?   I mean, we are here to agree with one another on everything, right?

;)



#4
Quote from: LuciferX on May 22, 2020, 10:27:03 PM
Quote from: DrStrangechao on May 22, 2020, 06:23:19 PM
Greetings!

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And on that note, where what the fuck *is* the apple?

[FTFY]

Exactly.

Thank you for the correction.  It totally changes the question (and potential answers) :)
What was the big deal about an apple? Maybe if it was actually made of gold, it would make sense. Or maybe apples, oranges, various other tree fruit were rare (even for the gods) that it was coveted so. Maybe it's just a metaphorical lesson in don't fight over what's not yours.

@The Wizard Joseph and @Cramulus

These stories are a giant game of etymology aka "telephone."  Found this one (from an unverified internet source, Quora):

Fair./

( Amharic)

Faird, verb : Justice, law, true judgement.

Fairede= He judged fairly

Fairedech= she judged fairly

Fairdenibetal = we have judged upon him

Fairdenibetal= we have judged upon her

Fairedu = they have judged

Ina-Faired= let us give judgement

Fairdu = the judgement

This language is spoken in parts of eastern Africa. The Greeks, like any other culture, were influenced by other belief systems, e.g. Egyptian.  Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree altogether but hey, it's worth a neuron or two of discussion.  Everything is connected lol

And not sure where to post this question, but what's with the Captcha exercises each time to post something?  Why do I feel as if I'm helping the AI to recognize stop signs, crosswalks, traffic lights, fire hydrants, etc? so as to further the goals of self-driving cars and delivery drones? 
I am not a robot! Not yet?


#5
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on May 22, 2020, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: DrStrangechao on May 22, 2020, 06:23:19 PM
And on that note, where the fuck *is* the apple?
We gave it to Cram for safe-keeping, but he ate it.

Of course he did.  Why let anything go to waste? 
#6
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2020, 06:37:59 PM
Not sure, but what I AM sure of is that it doesn't matter.

There is nothing "just" about Eris.  She is a crone wading knee-deep in blood, smirking because she taught those other gods BUT GOOD for leaving her out of a party, and she did it by triggering a dark age.

Lastly, given general Greek mythology, it meant "the hottest," because the Greeks were shallow as fuck.

Thank you Doktor, I am probably sure that you are correct in that it doesn't matter.  As with most things, in general. 
Still...I like to explore alternative theories to pass the time  You evidently have some to share :)

Is Eris a petty bitch? Really sounds like one if you put it that way. :(

And here I was thinking that chaos/discord could be seen as "just" in a bizarre way, since we are pretty much all susceptible to it. On varying levels. I am possibly overthinking this.

The Greeks sure did have a "hotness" virtue lol.  There is an emphasis on aesthetic beauty in their tales. Screw all that inner beauty shit. External "hotness" is hardly fair/just and (mostly) overrated. It is a bonus, though!
:D
 
#7
Greetings!

I'll make the grand leap of faith and assume there are some classical/Greek mythology aficionados on this site who may be willing to assist this layperson with the story of the Golden Apple of Eris.

I've read a few different interpretations/translations of the inscription:
"to the prettiest"
"to the most beautiful"
"to the fairest"

On the surface these may be seen as minor linguistic and conceptual deviations, however I question if the last interpretation may be the most "correct" and has different meaning than the red-herring meaning of an aesthetic beauty.  Forgive me for not having the time, patience, energy, etc. to start learning Ancient Greek. I'm leaning hard on those smarter and more resourceful.
If those three other goddesses had seen the word "fair" in terms of "just," perhaps they would have seen past their own vanity and simply given it back to the one who truly was/is the fairest (and avoided that whole war thing).  Of course you Discordians know to whom I refer ;)

And on that note, where the fuck *is* the apple?