I found this over at http://discordia.egypt-media.com/project-silver-screen-how-to-change-the-world/ -- a discordian blog I hadn't yet read. The tl;dr version is: the social revolution isn't coming, people are too easily distracted by movies and TV. So instead of resisting it, let's celebrate it by watching movies and TV that promote the revolution.
I decree that from the 15th of Discord (29th March) that Discordians and all loving-entities initiate Project Silver Screen. Which is described below.
Most of us love a good movie. Some of us are paranoid of the television. And some of us love to study it. But what gets through to each and every one of these three is a unique vantage point and inspiration that helps us frame our understanding of the world around us.
Movies teach us not only about conceivable futures and iminant political dangers, but they can also teach us about ourselves, other people, society at large, and the various collective and individual issues which have plagued us all this time.
To switch subject now:
Whatever it is that we're doing, when we try to alert our fellow Human Beings to the present dangers and the present potential of this moment (The Time is Now), we are confronted with anything from disbelief, fobbing off, or hostility. And for any seasoned armchair sociologist the answer is plain: They don't want the truth.
But could this conclusion be true? Or is it possible that the mode of expression is fatally flawed?
We plaster the Internet, libraries, telephone poles, and any available space with our messages. Messages of government conspiracy, Esoteric studies, foreign concepts, and whatever weird ideas we have that week.
All SWAMPED by the clutter of millions of other direct assaults: Buy That, Eat This, Don't Park There, Don't SIT There, Take a Ticket and Wait, Pay This Bill, Hold the Rail. Few of us have the time to stop and appreciate any dissenting voice in this madness.
We try to directly approach people on these issues: "Look at the Chemtrails", "Look after your Marcaba", "Don't drink tap-water", "Why don't you stop paying tax?". People don't appreciate being told what to do. Nor do many people appreciate the truth, if they haven't come up with it themselves.
Nothing is true for the Human Being unless he or she has had a direct inner-experience of that truth. Evidence is immaterial to the Ego and its structures. Truth is a thing that is revealed, and thus has always been there. The opening to genuine experience is to open to yourself.
We then even try to congregate. Come together in groups, discuss things, and put plans into action as if that is a prerequisite to Social Revolution and not a product of Social Revolution.
Needless to say these congregations tend to fail, and if they don't fail they expand into a whole load of a lathergic nothing, and if they don't do that they'll put up posters....
The Collectivity of our longed-for and lusted-for Social Revolution is, I have the balls to say, counter-progressive.
The need to collectivise, uniformitise opinions, "educate" one-another, and keep eachother company stems from a social convention of our time: Together.
We don't know what exactly it is, but we're going to do it together. We'll all get together some day, and physically remove the demons who're praying over us.
This is a massive insult from everyone, to everyone. And if you don't feel insulted, please note that collective insanity doesn't make you sane. And it's insulting for the following reasons:
---It assumes we all want the same thing.
---It assumes that the majority of Humanity are lovely people.
---It assumes we want something to do with Mick and Joe, 15 miles away.
---It assumes that for positive change to occur, we must all think the same way.
---It also assumes we want another world government, to replace the current world government.
I for one, am insulted by the gesture that most of the time and energy of well-meaning activists is being pissed down the drain trying to mix milk with oil.
Another reason for the dreadful failure in our Social Revolution is what we've come to call "Apathy" and "Laziness". Humanity is so ready to jump down eachother's throats about this issue. Everyone likes to complain about how everyone else is dragging their heels, getting distracted, or simply not caring. This situation is typical of any kind of social-change group. And activity within such a group occurs when the threat of iminant danger is rearing its head.
As a side-note: Cult leaders (from Harry Rae of TnS to Jim Jones of Jonestown) have noticed this proclivity in their herd. They need a game to play, they need to be toe-to-toe with the police, the NWO, or whoever, if they're going to actually move and create the illusion of progress.
We Humans Live in Our Illusions. We Only Endure Our Reality.
Robert Anton Wilson
We LOVE to feel like we're acheiving something. And it must be together, because we cannot change the minds of others without some form of threat, and we are always aware that multitude in a belief will eventually break the banks and infect everyone else. Rarely do we want to do something REAL with our time and effort. Like explore ourselves, improve your immediate environment, or teach another how to look after themselves.
In conclusion: The world will NOT CHANGE, and if it will it will not change due to Alex Jones yelling through a microphone, getting a news article on the front page of Digg, or organising "meetups". The direct approach no longer works... but what does?
These things can still continue, but most of our energy needs to be redirected. We still need seminars, websites full of info, books published, and the odd local meetup. But what we need more than these things is for people to take advantage of them for a change.
There are 100's of films and TV Shows, unknown for the most-part, some really famous, with which we can learn about ourselves and the world around us. What if the answer was simply to watch these movies, TV shows, listen to this music, and let your creative mind absorb the deep tennets and parables, absorb and explore the archetypes. Let your whole self change you, instead of relying on your conscious mind of absorb linear information and somehow amend your behaviour to a more acceptable mode.
Then share it!
Find the movies, shows, and music that you have found to be an inspiration in your life or have taught you some amazing things. And share them all. The less direct, the better. For instance; don't hand someone a DVD of The Matrix, a CD of Rage Against the Machine, and a DVD of "The Young Ones". Don't even mention anything out of the normal, just share the media.
The idea behind this is to be as least obvious as possible. The Ego is very quick and discerning, even in the "dull" folk. Don't whisper a word of insurrection.
Official Project Movie/TV List
The China Syndrome
The Prisoner (TV)
Soylent Green
Waking Life
They Live
Network
South Park (TV)
Fearless
Equilibrium
One Hour Photo
What Dreams May Come
The Edukators
to be expanded....
So you all have your orders. Seed this media on the torrents, burn off DVDs and CDs, always carry an external hard drive full of this stuff, suggest people watch these movies.
We can't change the world, we can only inspire it to change.
While I disagree with some parts of this, I can't fault the general sentiment.
Interestingly enough, I found a "mindfuck films" torrent download a couple of months ago. I can provide the actual links on request, but essentially it allows you to download the following films without going through any website service:
12 Monkeys (1995)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
American Psycho (2000)
Being John Malkovich (1999)
Cypher
Donnie Darko
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
eXistenZ (1999)
Fight Club
Frailty (2001)
Jacob's Ladder (1990)
Lost Highway (1997)
Memento
Mulholland Drive
Naked Lunch (1991)
Oldboy (2003)
One Hour Photo
Pi (1998)
Primer
Scanners (1981)
Session 9 (2001)
The Game (you just lost it, 1997)
The Illusionist
The Machinist (2004)
The Others
The Prestige (2006)
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Total Recall
Vanilla Sky
Videodrome (1983)
A Beautiful Mind
A Clockwork Orange
Adaptation
Barton Fink
Brazil
Dark City
Dead Man's Shoes
Eraserhead
Identity
In the Mouth of Madness
Lucky Number Slevin
One Point O
Pink Floyd's The Wall
Rashomon
Requiem for a Dream
Revolver
Spellbound
Spider
Spun Limited
Synecdoche
The 13th Floor
The Butterfly Effect
The Fountain
The Jacket
The Number 23
The Salton Sea
The Usual Suspects
Waking Life
What Dreams May Come
Not all of those are immediately applicable for this project, though I list them for interest.
I would suggest adding Fight Club though, for sure.
Name of the torrent in question would be greatly appreciated. I searched for "mindfuck" and a bunch of movie packs came up, but the larger ones seemd to not have any seeders. Is this on a public torrent?
Cram, I have yet to completely read your OP, will comment later.
(don't worry about it for my sake - was merely pointing out other discordian bloggers. :))
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 07, 2010, 12:03:07 PM
Name of the torrent in question would be greatly appreciated. I searched for "mindfuck" and a bunch of movie packs came up, but the larger ones seemd to not have any seeders. Is this on a public torrent?
Cram, I have yet to completely read your OP, will comment later.
It's on Demonoid. The torrent only links to other torrent files - which aren't tracked by any site, but are fairly well seeded (I usually get about 90-150 kb/s on it).
Wicked, DSH is getting attention. :lulz:
Now bow before the exemplary literature!
I found that torrent about 2 weeks ago. Fantastic collection. My connection is shit, so I've only got One Hour Photo yet. Great inspiration for the list.
If anyone would like a Demonoid invitation code, let me know, I have a few saved up.
Damn, Cain already noted most of the ones I would have gone for. There are some others though.
Truman Show
Taxi Driver
One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
High Fidelity
Enemy Mine
Alien Nation
District 9
Se7en
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Good enough.
Sorry to interrupt, but how is
High Fidelity a mindfuck movie?
It's a "time to grow up, manboy" movie.
Quote from: John CusackI've spent the last 20 years thinking with my gut, and the conclusion I've come to is that my gut has shit for brains!
Yes, I wondered the same.
Liked the movie, but still.
QuoteSorry to interrupt, but how is High Fidelity a mindfuck movie?
I always though that it was a kind of slow moving realization. "Grow up, Manboy" is something a lot of people should here. So, less mindfuck, more grow up. Take that one or leave it, I guess.
High fidelity is an awesome film.
I would add What's Eating Gilbert Grape in its metaphor for America sense.
Not really mindfuck material but also good for exploring personal relationship dynamics.
I really like Into The Wild for that kind of reason, but the main character is a bit naïve.
... just a tiny bit. :lol:
Into the Wild is probably better if you're not familiar with the basic premis.
I UNDERSTAND IT SEAN PENN, I UNDERSTAND, YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR TO ME! I GET IT ALREADY!
And yeah, maybe awakening that sense of 'hey i can be more/different/grow/develop is the little worm that needs to wake up, not 'be different, and do it like this, ok'.
That and the Eddie Vedder soundtrack is teh awesomes.
Well I'll be adding "Grow up, manboy" movies to my list on the blog post. For me this mindfuck thing has the exact purpose of "Grow up, manboy"
I'll download all of these titles y'all are suggesting. Nothing I love more than finding new movies, thank you. We could also build some cool movie lists.
What have you guys made of "The Men Who Stare At Goats"?
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 11, 2010, 01:41:17 PM
Into the Wild is probably better if you're not familiar with the basic premis.
I UNDERSTAND IT SEAN PENN, I UNDERSTAND, YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR TO ME! I GET IT ALREADY!
And yeah, maybe awakening that sense of 'hey i can be more/different/grow/develop is the little worm that needs to wake up, not 'be different, and do it like this, ok'.
I especially hated the bit near the end, when he waited until he was malnourished, out of rice and other stocked food, before he decided to venture out and see if any plants were edible ... :| That's just braindead stupid.
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 11, 2010, 06:03:30 PM
I especially hated the bit near the end, when he waited until he was malnourished, out of rice and other stocked food, before he decided to venture out and see if any plants were edible ... :| That's just braindead stupid.
A comedy, is it? :lulz:
Yes I hated that bit of the film but for me it highlighted his naïve nature and the fact that he just was not prepared properly for life in the wilderness.
The fucker of it was he was a days walk from medical attention and help, and if he had took a fucking map he didn't have to get that desperate and die. Also burning the money was only a thing a stupid rich kid would have done.
I have the movie of The Men Who stare at goats and have read the book but I haven't properly watched the film since I tried to watch it mid mental breakdown. The book is funny as fuck and the movie is on this weeks to watch list. I shall update then.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 11, 2010, 05:12:55 PM
What have you guys made of "The Men Who Stare At Goats"?
The Jon Ronson documentary should be added, not the comedy film with George Clooney based on the documentary.
The doc is just as funny, but three times longer and made much more interesting by the fact it is true.
I shall order Payne to put that on his download list.
Done
Thank you honey.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 11, 2010, 05:12:55 PM
What have you guys made of "The Men Who Stare At Goats"?
loved it
then read up on the actual events which inspired the movie
now I love it even more
The Armando Iannucci Shows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjoZnNewgvY&feature=PlayList&p=28B60FF18DE173E3&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1) has done enough for me that I buy copies for other people as gifts. It's an existential satire that I file under 'fucking awesome'.
To add a film to the 'headfuck' list: My favourite right now is the Polish sci-fi comedy Sexmission (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CeLilkt4pk&feature=PlayList&p=84ED3A9F51D232FF&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1).
Now I'm going to add all the films I haven't seen from this thread to my list.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 08, 2010, 07:49:40 PM
Wicked, DSH is getting attention. :lulz:
Now bow before the exemplary literature!
I found that torrent about 2 weeks ago. Fantastic collection. My connection is shit, so I've only got One Hour Photo yet. Great inspiration for the list.
If anyone would like a Demonoid invitation code, let me know, I have a few saved up.
Would be interested, but you seem to hate free speech.
This idea is useless while in Number 6's hands.
Pity about the #6 debacle...This is a pretty sweet idea.
I would add Lekce Faust to the list.
Dok, afaik there's other people on this board that have Demonoid invites. I think it was BDS. I'd have requested one but currently my bandwidth is not good enough to be able to keep up with any sensible share ratio (you gotta upload what you download, basically--I do that with my public torrents but my upspeed is taking me 24/7 to get back up to 1.000x share ratio, I think demonoid would kick me for that pretty quickly, some day I will get a highspeed connection again, but I just don't really need it except for this sort of thing).
Cram I just got the Men who stare at Goats, is it also good when you haven't read up on the back story?
oh yes, definitely. The movie begins with a disclaimer: "More of this is true than you would probably believe."
and that is incredibly accurate
when you're done with the movie, google it up, you'll be pleasantly surprised
I found another 3-4 hours of entertainment reading and watching interviews with the guy who the movie is based upon. He's still around, and is still making youtube vids.
Good. Then I will request links to that after I watched the movie.
Like you need me to use this idea... I don't have a copyright on it. No ownership over it. It's an idea. And it has its own thread now.
If you want, take my article out of the OP, and imagine its your idea. I don't care, just fucking do it.
As for The Men Who Stare At Goats doc. I've been looking for a torrent or anything of this documentary. I found one once, it got to 99%, and the seeders fucked off. I had it open for 5 months.
Halp?
Also: If anyone needs/wants/would-like a Demonoid invite I can hand out codes via PM.
That bastard, Docktor Howl can't have one, though. :lol:
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 06:29:52 PM
Like you need me to use this idea... I don't have a copyright on it. No ownership over it. It's an idea. And it has its own thread now.
If you want, take my article out of the OP, and imagine its your idea. I don't care, just fucking do it.
As for The Men Who Stare At Goats doc. I've been looking for a torrent or anything of this documentary. I found one once, it got to 99%, and the seeders fucked off. I had it open for 5 months.
Halp?
Also: If anyone needs/wants/would-like a Demonoid invite I can hand out codes via PM.
That bastard, Docktor Howl can't have one, though. :lol:
You have proven yourself to be untrustworthy, and hateful towards the free exchange of ideas. I don't think I want to be involved in any project that you have anything to do with. Even if it wasn't me you were excluding, the idea that you ARE excluding people would be enough...Especially given your propensity to delete things you don't like.
You're a hypocrite and a fraud, and frankly I don't want my name attached to anything that you're sponsoring.
Also, I believe this counts as a "snub". Therefore, I have a religious duty to try to wreck the whole project.
WWED?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Also, I believe this counts as a "snub". Therefore, I have a religious duty to try to wreck the whole project.
WWED?
I think I just found a new message to put on my spiffy LED belt buckle.
lol Lovely. No sense of humour left here at all, is there?
I was merely excluding you, not on your attitude, but that I simply can't trust you with a Demonoid invitation. Think about it; you've been nothing but a dick. Good knows what genuine hostility you harbour for me.
Sure, it's easy to act like a dick online. But I think this goes deeper.
And yeah, if it was a snub to you, then go for it. I'd just like to know exactly how you intend on thwarting my activities across miles of ocean and land. As long as myself and my friends are doing this, I don't give a fuck. I was only calling out for the willing, and the willing will take part unless you have them somehow under your thumb.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Therefore, I have a religious duty to try to wreck the whole project.
You probably shouldn't since Cram and company seem to be doing a pretty good job without #6
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
lol Lovely. No sense of humour left here at all, is there?
Of course there is. I plan on giggling like a fiend, as I spend loads of time addressing this snub, Eris' way.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
I was merely excluding you, not on your attitude,
What possible difference could that make? You excluded me, I'm taking it personally, and I'm going to wreck it. Had you said nothing, I would have ignored it, as I said I was going to. Now I'm going to do whatever I can to fuck it up.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
And yeah, if it was a snub to you, then go for it. I'd just like to know exactly how you intend on thwarting my activities across miles of ocean and land. As long as myself and my friends are doing this, I don't give a fuck. I was only calling out for the willing, and the willing will take part unless you have them somehow under your thumb.
Protip: I'm one of the willing, under a different name. Enjoy!
If anyone else wants to help me fuck this up on principle, that's fine...But nobody is "under my thumb".
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 12, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Therefore, I have a religious duty to try to wreck the whole project.
You probably shouldn't since Cram and company seem to be doing a pretty good job without #6
Can't help it.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
lol Lovely. No sense of humour left here at all, is there?
You would be
amazed at the kinds of things some of us find to be funny.
Quote from: LMNO on April 12, 2010, 07:11:58 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
lol Lovely. No sense of humour left here at all, is there?
You would be amazed at the kinds of things some of us find to be funny.
Train wrecks, Sarah Palin, this geek...Oh, and trashing his project for cheap yuks.
Oh you are adorable!
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Oh you are adorable!
Is that why you keep deleting my posts at your blog, Sparky?
Better keep that delete button warmed up. You are now my personal project.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Oh you are adorable!
Is that why you keep deleting my posts at your blog, Sparky?
Better keep that delete button warmed up. You are now my personal project.
I'm not so much deleting them as I am, not "Approving" them. Cram and 2 others can post freely without my needing approval. Don't ask me why.
And stop being such a wuss. You have this whole forum and my presence on it to slander me with.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Oh you are adorable!
Is that why you keep deleting my posts at your blog, Sparky?
Better keep that delete button warmed up. You are now my personal project.
I'm not so much deleting them as I am, not "Approving" them. Cram and 2 others can post freely without my needing approval. Don't ask me why.
And stop being such a wuss. You have this whole forum and my presence on it to slander me with.
1. Who gives a fuck what method you use? Also, you're a damn liar. My posts stay until they are removed. I know this because I have shut down my browser and returned later, and there they are.
2. Fuck you. If you can spag up our board, we can do it right back to you. And I will...forever. I am the king of grudges. Ask around.
Also, I think many of the people that were interested in your project have since changed their minds. You even managed to offend Cramulus, and that's not easy to do (see your thread in Principia Discussion for details).
Face it...You are incapable of communication, thus any ideas you might have are intrisically worthless.
"Your comment is awaiting moderation."
You're erasing them by one means or another, you fucking liar.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 12, 2010, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Oh you are adorable!
Is that why you keep deleting my posts at your blog, Sparky?
Better keep that delete button warmed up. You are now my personal project.
I'm not so much deleting them as I am, not "Approving" them. Cram and 2 others can post freely without my needing approval. Don't ask me why.
And stop being such a wuss. You have this whole forum and my presence on it to slander me with.
all the ones from last night just fell off the site
They weren't
deleted, they were just
not approved. :lulz:
Look at the title of my website.
Does it say anywhere in the title "Free Speech for Spastics"? It's my website. My resources. And just because you guys don't clean up when people shit all over the place, doesn't mean I have to maintain the same standard for myself. How old are you anyway?
And where have I told a lie?
If people want to be idiots, and throw out a valid idea because one guy thought of it at some point whom they don't like, then that's their own problem. lol They should possibly consider that there are other ideas in their heads that others have had whom they hate. Perhaps everyone should just stop innovating altogether.
Like I said. No copyright. No ownership. Others have thought of doing this before, and have done.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:20:20 PM
Does it say anywhere in the title "Free Speech for Spastics"? It's my website. My resources. And just because you guys don't clean up when people shit all over the place, doesn't mean I have to maintain the same standard for myself. How old are you anyway?
If people want to be idiots, and throw out a valid idea because one guy thought of it at some point whom they don't like, then that's their own problem. lol They should possibly consider that there are other ideas in their heads that others have had whom they hate. Perhaps everyone should just stop innovating altogether.
(http://www.playkon.ro/uploads/2008/02/No-U.jpg)
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:20:20 PM
And where have I told a lie?
"I'm not deleting your posts."
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:20:20 PM
And where have I told a lie?
"I'm not deleting your posts."
I'm not. I'm taking the Liberty (that is well and truly mine) to not display your gravy that you have submitted to me for review.
Where the fuck do you think we are, Korea? You fucking Communist.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:20:20 PM
And where have I told a lie?
"I'm not deleting your posts."
I'm not. I'm taking the Liberty (that is well and truly mine) to not display your gravy that you have submitted to me for review.
Where the fuck do you think we are, Korea? You fucking Communist.
In short, you're deleting them. And being intellectually dishonest about it...Which, of course, we've come to expect from you.
But never fear, we can in fact post at a higher volume than you can delete easily. We're very tenacious that way.
I forget, did we get called socialists yesterday?
Does this mean he turned it up to 11?!
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:41:55 PM
I forget, did we get called socialists yesterday?
Does this mean he turned it up to 11?!
I don't think he did, but I wouldn't put it past him, comrade.
At least he understands that The American Way™ consists of censorship, intellectual dishonesty, and teapot tyrants.
Quote from: LMNO on April 12, 2010, 08:43:33 PM
At least he understands that The American Way™ consists of censorship and intellectual dishonesty.
He's a potato sucker, not an American. Ireland doesn't believe in shit like the free exchange of ideas, the proof of which is that we don't delete his posts, but he deletes ours.
(Faust, of course, is an exception, but he's an abberation.)
Quote from: Over on #6's forum, in the welcome threadWe hope that here we can herald in a new Era of Discord. Here we can build a solid foundation of personal freedom and growth. This place is not only for people belonging to this specific Society – If you're a Discordian, a Taoist, or any other kind of weirdo you're welcome here!
Feel free to use the wbesite as you see fit to use it. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
OMG WHAT WAS HE THINKING HE'S A COMMIE!
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Over on #6's forum, in the welcome threadWe hope that here we can herald in a new Era of Discord. Here we can build a solid foundation of personal freedom and growth slavish conformity and ideas I like. This place is not only for people belonging to this specific Society – If you're a Discordian, a Taoist, or any other kind of weirdo you're welcome here as long as you don't post any badwrong things!
Feel free to use the wbesite as you see fit to use it. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
OMG WHAT WAS HE THINKING HE'S A COMMIE!
Fixed.
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Over on #6's forum, in the welcome thread
Feel free to use the wbesite as you see fit to use it.
Well, what's he complaining about?
Quote from: LMNO on April 12, 2010, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Over on #6's forum, in the welcome threadWe hope that here we can herald in a new Era of Discord. Here we can build a solid foundation of personal freedom and growth. This place is not only for people belonging to this specific Society – If you're a Discordian, a Taoist, or any other kind of weirdo you're welcome here!
Feel free to use the wbesite as you see fit to use it.
Well, what's he complaining about?
People HAVE the freedom, just not the freedom to USE the freedom.
Whew, that was a close one.
You ought to edit for this guy, Dok. It'll save him from embarassing himself by looking like he's open to all kinds of ideas and people.
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:49:36 PM
Whew, that was a close one.
You ought to edit for this guy, Dok. It'll save him from embarassing himself by looking like he's open to all kinds of ideas and people.
I would, but he'd just delete it. Only HIS ideas are good ideas, remember?
Also, he gets to make up new meanings for words.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:49:36 PM
Whew, that was a close one.
You ought to edit for this guy, Dok. It'll save him from embarassing himself by looking like he's open to all kinds of ideas and people.
I would, but he'd just delete it. Only HIS ideas are good ideas, remember?
Also, he gets to make up new meanings for words.
Well, that's because he's a really real Orthodox discordian!
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:49:36 PM
Whew, that was a close one.
You ought to edit for this guy, Dok. It'll save him from embarassing himself by looking like he's open to all kinds of ideas and people.
I would, but he'd just delete it. Only HIS ideas are good ideas, remember?
Also, he gets to make up new meanings for words.
Well, that's because he's a really real Orthodox discordian!
FOR REALNESS! Now he just needs a stable of R&B singers to sing about how real he is, while he posts!
He could be the Justin Timberlake of Discordianism.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 12, 2010, 08:43:33 PM
At least he understands that The American Way™ consists of censorship and intellectual dishonesty.
He's a potato sucker, not an American. Ireland doesn't believe in shit like the free exchange of ideas, the proof of which is that we don't delete his posts, but he deletes ours.
(Faust, of course, is an exception, but he's an abberation.)
Faust is Greek. He's just a strangely-placed interloper.
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on April 12, 2010, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 12, 2010, 08:43:33 PM
At least he understands that The American Way™ consists of censorship and intellectual dishonesty.
He's a potato sucker, not an American. Ireland doesn't believe in shit like the free exchange of ideas, the proof of which is that we don't delete his posts, but he deletes ours.
(Faust, of course, is an exception, but he's an abberation.)
Faust is Greek. He's just a strangely-placed interloper.
Well, that explains his infamous lechery. There isn't an unviolated goat in Ireland, the way I hear it.
mm I guess I forgot the other half of The American Way. To back up everything I see with reams of paper informing people of what I didn't say by saying something.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
mm I guess I forgot the other half of The American Way. To back up everything I see with reams of paper informing people of what I didn't say by saying something.
Oh, we've been putting words in your mouth? Please provide the relevant quotes/links.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
mm I guess I forgot the other half of The American Way. To back up everything I see with reams of paper informing people of what I didn't say by saying something.
Oh, we've been putting words in your mouth? Please provide the relevant quotes/links.
Using the site how you wish is not a permit to post meaningless slander.
Now go look at that entry on my website, which had nothing to do with you but you commented on anyway, and witness the lack of a comment you made. Take note of it, because
I will approve it in exactly two weeks from now. Just to show that you're a lying piece of shit. And a coward for accusing another of your own crime.
True, it's not much for evidence to show you're fabricating a reason to baaaw. But it's something.
Is this all you got? A 3 comment-an-hour rate and lies? OMG, I'm devestated.... :|
Oh, look:
http://discordia.egypt-media.com/wheres-saveen/comment-page-1/#comment-94
QuoteNumber 6
April 12th, 2010 on 1:02 pm
Oh.. where's your post Dr. Howl?
I'll tell you where...
Waiting for approval from me. You dickless waste of time. This person is truly MISSING. And by that I mean, no one has heard from him.
You have precisely no moral authority at all to bitch about anyone else's mishandling of your words.
In fact, if you didn't do such a spectacular job of making yourself look like an ass, I'd be misquoting you like a bastard.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 10:08:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
mm I guess I forgot the other half of The American Way. To back up everything I see with reams of paper informing people of what I didn't say by saying something.
Oh, we've been putting words in your mouth? Please provide the relevant quotes/links.
Using the site how you wish is not a permit to post meaningless slander.
Now go look at that entry on my website, which had nothing to do with you but you commented on anyway, and witness the lack of a comment you made. Take note of it, because I will approve it in exactly two weeks from now. Just to show that you're a lying piece of shit. And a coward for accusing another of your own crime.
True, it's not much for evidence to show you're fabricating a reason to baaaw. But it's something.
Is this all you got? A 3 comment-an-hour rate and lies? OMG, I'm devestated.... :|
So, no link or quote. You lied. Again.
I am shocked. :lulz:
Also, allowing a comment TWO WEEKS after the fact isn't just a little bit dishonest, it's utterly dishonest.
You are an honorless lying piece of vermin. Just saying.
So um, anyway.
I think Dark City would be good on the list, too.
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:12:32 PM
So um, anyway.
I think Dark City would be good on the list, too.
Yeah, whatever. You can't watch it til 2 weeks after you rent it. :lulz:
You seriously want to get involved with a control freak like Number 6? Anything on the project that he doesn't like will lead to at least an attempt by him to undo your work.
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:12:32 PM
So um, anyway.
I think Dark City would be good on the list, too.
Sounds epic. I've got a movie for tonight.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:15:29 PM
Yeah, whatever. You can't watch it til 2 weeks after you rent it. :lulz:
You seriously want to get involved with a control freak like Number 6? Anything on the project that he doesn't like will lead to at least an attempt by him to undo your work.
Oh yes. This is you 'fucking up my project', because you
know I just have to talk back to you. lol Kindergarten shit man. Your only skill seems to be the "Post" button when it comes to war. :lol:
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 10:24:12 PM
Oh yes. This is you 'fucking up my project', because you know I just have to talk back to you. lol Kindergarten shit man. Your only skill seems to be the "Post" button when it comes to war. :lol:
Yeah, seems that way, doesn't it? :wink:
Sleep tight, moron. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:10:24 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 10:08:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
mm I guess I forgot the other half of The American Way. To back up everything I see with reams of paper informing people of what I didn't say by saying something.
Oh, we've been putting words in your mouth? Please provide the relevant quotes/links.
Using the site how you wish is not a permit to post meaningless slander.
Now go look at that entry on my website, which had nothing to do with you but you commented on anyway, and witness the lack of a comment you made. Take note of it, because I will approve it in exactly two weeks from now. Just to show that you're a lying piece of shit. And a coward for accusing another of your own crime.
True, it's not much for evidence to show you're fabricating a reason to baaaw. But it's something.
Is this all you got? A 3 comment-an-hour rate and lies? OMG, I'm devestated.... :|
So, no link or quote. You lied. Again.
I am shocked. :lulz:
Also, allowing a comment TWO WEEKS after the fact isn't just a little bit dishonest, it's utterly dishonest.
You are an honorless lying piece of vermin. Just saying.
Also, bump for the piece of human waste known as Number 6.
Basically, folks, this guy is no different than Tagnostic at CoG. Instead of "banning" or "erasing", he just fucks with your permissions and pretends it's not the same thing.
Because, of course, he's a dishonest, honorless fucktard.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:12:32 PM
So um, anyway.
I think Dark City would be good on the list, too.
Yeah, whatever. You can't watch it til 2 weeks after you rent it. :lulz:
You seriously want to get involved with a control freak like Number 6? Anything on the project that he doesn't like will lead to at least an attempt by him to undo your work.
Take it easy, Dok. I'm just suggesting an addition to the list, it's not like we're getting married or anything.
Besides, whatever your opinions of Number_6, you have to admit that this is a great idea.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 10:24:12 PM
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:12:32 PM
So um, anyway.
I think Dark City would be good on the list, too.
Sounds epic. I've got a movie for tonight.
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Nice. This is one of my favorite movies. The cheese factor can overwhelm at times, but it's got sort of a cyberpunk feel.
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:39:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:12:32 PM
So um, anyway.
I think Dark City would be good on the list, too.
Yeah, whatever. You can't watch it til 2 weeks after you rent it. :lulz:
You seriously want to get involved with a control freak like Number 6? Anything on the project that he doesn't like will lead to at least an attempt by him to undo your work.
Take it easy, Dok. I'm just suggesting an addition to the list, it's not like we're getting married or anything.
Besides, whatever your opinions of Number_6, you have to admit that this is a great idea.
Fuck that. That's like saying "Tag may be a pedo, but he had a great idea."
If it's from Number 6, it is tainted by association.
Apologies for posting on topic but
Yes, the Eddie Veder soundtrack is COMPLETELY mindblowingly beautiful. I listened to it on a plane to and from the UK.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 10:08:05 PM
Using the site how you wish is not a permit to post meaningless slander.
It most certainly is...
If I wish to post meaningless
ad hominem slander against you, than that
is how I wish to use the site.
Which you have given me explicit permission to do.Learn the fucking English language, you stupid Irish fuck.
Hehe, the Eddie Vedder soundtrack is always the one I listen to pulling in and out of whatever station I meet/leave Payne from.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:39:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2010, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: Chryselephantine Shavenwolf on April 12, 2010, 10:12:32 PM
So um, anyway.
I think Dark City would be good on the list, too.
Yeah, whatever. You can't watch it til 2 weeks after you rent it. :lulz:
You seriously want to get involved with a control freak like Number 6? Anything on the project that he doesn't like will lead to at least an attempt by him to undo your work.
Take it easy, Dok. I'm just suggesting an addition to the list, it's not like we're getting married or anything.
Besides, whatever your opinions of Number_6, you have to admit that this is a great idea.
Fuck that. That's like saying "Tag may be a pedo, but he had a great idea."
If it's from Number 6, it is tainted by association.
Ideas should be judged on their own merits.
Since we are monkey's and being reasonable is hard i propose that someone makes a new/splits this thread so we have a thread with a full list of good mindfuck movies.
That way we can let this turd sink to the bottom of the pool without losing what little value it had.
Quote from: Regret on April 13, 2010, 08:02:33 PM
Ideas should be judged on their own merits.
So, Eichmann's research shouldn't have been destroyed?
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
lol Lovely. No sense of humour left here at all, is there?
I was merely excluding you, not on your attitude, but that I simply can't trust you with a Demonoid invitation. Think about it; you've been nothing but a dick. Good knows what genuine hostility you harbour for me.
Sure, it's easy to act like a dick online. But I think this goes deeper.
And yeah, if it was a snub to you, then go for it. I'd just like to know exactly how you intend on thwarting my activities across miles of ocean and land. As long as myself and my friends are doing this, I don't give a fuck. I was only calling out for the willing, and the willing will take part unless you have them somehow under your thumb.
HAHHAHAHAHA he can't "trust you with a demonoid invitation"
whut
like people here haven't had them for... pretty much ever? 2005 at least.
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 08:20:20 PM
How old are you anyway?
I was just wondering that about you, as you seem so ill-equipped to defend your ideas. I am figuring about 16, based on the sophistication level of your posts, so I figure I'll go easy on you. Poor little honey.
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 12, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Over on #6's forum, in the welcome threadWe hope that here we can herald in a new Era of Discord. Here we can build a solid foundation of personal freedom and growth. This place is not only for people belonging to this specific Society – If you're a Discordian, a Taoist, or any other kind of weirdo you're welcome here!
Feel free to use the wbesite as you see fit to use it. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
OMG WHAT WAS HE THINKING HE'S A COMMIE!
Naw, man, like any other Free Thinker he only allows ideas that agree with him.
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on April 14, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
lol Lovely. No sense of humour left here at all, is there?
I was merely excluding you, not on your attitude, but that I simply can't trust you with a Demonoid invitation. Think about it; you've been nothing but a dick. Good knows what genuine hostility you harbour for me.
Sure, it's easy to act like a dick online. But I think this goes deeper.
And yeah, if it was a snub to you, then go for it. I'd just like to know exactly how you intend on thwarting my activities across miles of ocean and land. As long as myself and my friends are doing this, I don't give a fuck. I was only calling out for the willing, and the willing will take part unless you have them somehow under your thumb.
HAHHAHAHAHA he can't "trust you with a demonoid invitation"
whut
like people here haven't had them for... pretty much ever? 2005 at least.
I'm not sure but isn't it the case that whoever invites someone to Demonoid also vouches for them in some way or other?
I looked up Eichman but couldn't find research... did you mean Mengel, Dok?
Wiki:
QuoteContemporary knowledge concerning the manner in which the human body reacts to freezing is based almost exclusively on these Nazi experiments. This, together with the recent use of data from Nazi research into the effects of phosgene gas, has proven controversial and presents an ethical dilemma for modern physicians who do not agree with the methods used to obtain this data.[17] Similarly, controversy has arisen from the use of results of biological warfare testing done by the Imperial Japanese Army's Unit 731.[27] However, the results from Unit 731 were kept classified by the United States and the majority of doctors involved were given pardons
I'd certainly rather we used this information for what good it can do rather than pretend it doesn't exist.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2010, 05:17:59 AM
Quote from: Regret on April 13, 2010, 08:02:33 PM
Ideas should be judged on their own merits.
So, Eichmann's research shouldn't have been destroyed?
The knowledge that is created by research is like an object(in some ways), it can't be unethical. The production can be unethical, and how it is used can be unethical. But the knowledge itself is more neutral than Switzerland.
Knowledge should only be destroyed if it is certain that it will be used to commit atrocities.
Again, just like objects.
You search and destroy landmines to keep civilians from dying from them.
It is often a bad idea to destroy knowledge because other people will just recreate it and now they have the advantage since you just destroyed what you needed to develop a defense against it.
Would you propose all knowledge regarding gunpowder should be destroyed?
What will you use to fight your enemies when they rediscover gunpowder?
It is quite hard to develop a geigercounter if you destroyed all knowledge regarding nuclear fission.
I say destroy the researcher and strip his name from the data he created(so noone will be motivated(by fame) to do such things again)
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 14, 2010, 11:20:26 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on April 14, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Number_6 on April 12, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
lol Lovely. No sense of humour left here at all, is there?
I was merely excluding you, not on your attitude, but that I simply can't trust you with a Demonoid invitation. Think about it; you've been nothing but a dick. Good knows what genuine hostility you harbour for me.
Sure, it's easy to act like a dick online. But I think this goes deeper.
And yeah, if it was a snub to you, then go for it. I'd just like to know exactly how you intend on thwarting my activities across miles of ocean and land. As long as myself and my friends are doing this, I don't give a fuck. I was only calling out for the willing, and the willing will take part unless you have them somehow under your thumb.
HAHHAHAHAHA he can't "trust you with a demonoid invitation"
whut
like people here haven't had them for... pretty much ever? 2005 at least.
I'm not sure but isn't it the case that whoever invites someone to Demonoid also vouches for them in some way or other?
I think so... I was just amused by the guy acting like an invite is some sort of super rare cool specialness that's really hard to get.
QuoteI am figuring about 16, based on the sophistication level of your posts, so I figure I'll go easy on you.
Speaking as a sixteen year old, if he's dumb enough to still be here, don't go easy on him. A prick is a prick, no matter what age they are.
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on April 14, 2010, 10:24:55 PM
QuoteI am figuring about 16, based on the sophistication level of your posts, so I figure I'll go easy on you.
Speaking as a sixteen year old, if he's dumb enough to still be here, don't go easy on him. A prick is a prick, no matter what age they are.
Good point.
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on April 14, 2010, 10:24:55 PM
QuoteI am figuring about 16, based on the sophistication level of your posts, so I figure I'll go easy on you.
Speaking as a sixteen year old, if he's dumb enough to still be here, don't go easy on him. A prick is a prick, no matter what age they are.
It says much to your benefit that I keep forgetting your chronological age.
Quote from: LMNO on April 15, 2010, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on April 14, 2010, 10:24:55 PM
QuoteI am figuring about 16, based on the sophistication level of your posts, so I figure I'll go easy on you.
Speaking as a sixteen year old, if he's dumb enough to still be here, don't go easy on him. A prick is a prick, no matter what age they are.
It says much to your benefit that I keep forgetting your chronological age.
I know, right? I totally wouldn't have called that.
QuoteIt says much to your benefit that I keep forgetting your chronological age.
Thanks! :D I appreciate that.
16.... :eek: Super child?
Its past my bed-time tonight, so I'll elaborate on this later... but I must add
Sword of Doom
Samurai Assassin
... the best Samurai flicks you'll EVER see.
I read this all,
AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.
Spaggery
I saw the original blog, but it was all a bit tl;dr, so I dismissed it.
Essentially, 'people are being distracted from the real issues by TV and movies. Instead of resisiting this, let's try to promote TV and movies that promote our POV'
Quote from: Placid Dingo on May 29, 2010, 05:58:37 AM
Essentially, 'people are being distracted from the real issues by TV and movies. Instead of resisiting this, let's try to promote TV and movies that promote our POV'
First find a point of view people can actually claim as being mutually representative. Buggered if I ever could. Not one that someone else agreed with me on anyway. Or even one that I could guarantee to still agree with myself on, Tomorrow.