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I'll argue that yes, people in New York deserve good roads and people in Appalacia don't.  Cars are one of the problems with this country and if we were using those funds to build a viable nbational mass transist system instead of subsidizing car usage we would cut off a major source of funding for terrorism as well as reducing our national defecit and improving our environment.  People in Appalachia deserve access to trains, New York is dense enough that buses and taxis are a viable form of mass transit, thus requiring higher quality roads for them to run on.

So, there's no need to move products or food into or out of Kentucky or Tennessee?

Great.  So they're locked out of the economy, and relegated to serfdom.

GOD BLESS AHHHH-MERICA...

There sure is.  It should just be being moved on trains, rather than via truck.

Yes, because rail lines should go to each and every small town, or even every manufacturing facility, farm, and grocery store.  And we should get enough engines and freight cars to reach all of these places.  To save money.

I'm with you ECH. It's not the substance : fluff ratio that I care about, it's the signal : noise ratio.

Sometimes people bitching about their love lives is signal. Most of us are friends, and I do care what's going on in your lives.  To a point.  

Noise is anything that isn't very interesting to read. When people are venting and nobody's responding, it's noise. Nearly 100% of the threads about the weather are noise. If people are bitching about something inane in a way which is entertaining to read or respond to, I consider it signal.


I admit I might just be getting increasingly narrow minded about what I consider Signal.

I distinctly remember this same argument, only you and I were in reversed roles.

that doesn't surprise me.

This place is a swirling vortex - we may be moving forward, but we're constantly passing familiar points.

I mean, I was just reading posts from 2007 and found a diatribe I wrote about why everybody who dislikes RAW can eat ten dicks. And now I want to bump that thread just to flame myself. All of us are doomed to go round and round the goatse vortex.

I know.  That's one reason I killed TGRR.

Restore what?  And no, my aim is to burn it all down, in a gleeful fit of senseless and wanton destruction.  But I don't pretend to have the nation's best interests at heart.  Quite the contrary, in fact. 

restore the good old days, of course... 

When were those, again?

also, you, sir, are a weapon of mass destruction and should be kept in a silo for use in the event of total war...

This IS a total war.  I asked you all - nicely - to kill me, and you didn't.

Two things:

1.  I have the last remaining job with full benefits in the country, and the last solvent school district for my kids.

2.  There's extra gravity in Arizona.  Once you're here, you can never really get away.  Sister Gothique, for example, is about halfway across North Carolina, desperately clawing at the ground in a futile attempt to stop falling West.

the gravity well of Arizona must be a local minima or else we'd all be tumbling towards it eventually.  therefore you must find another hellhole with a force of attraction.  one with a tree or two, and makes use of a larger part of the visible spectrum.

at least you have the Wikiup shoot in AZ....

The gravity here only works if you've been exposed to it for more than a few weeks.

BH,
also the highways have a military purpose that often gets overlooked.
they are necessary for defense of the nation.

That was the excuse.

We're better off relying on rail for that.  Ever try to drive a Bradley more than 100 miles?

But what they DID do, was make us rich as hell, by the rest of the world's standards.  So the natural thing to do is dismantle them and go to a totally inappropriate system, because apparently, hillbillies deserve wretched poverty (per Horuv).

I'm with you ECH. It's not the substance : fluff ratio that I care about, it's the signal : noise ratio.

Sometimes people bitching about their love lives is signal. Most of us are friends, and I do care what's going on in your lives.  To a point.  

Noise is anything that isn't very interesting to read. When people are venting and nobody's responding, it's noise. Nearly 100% of the threads about the weather are noise. If people are bitching about something inane in a way which is entertaining to read or respond to, I consider it signal.


I admit I might just be getting increasingly narrow minded about what I consider Signal.

I distinctly remember this same argument, only you and I were in reversed roles.

I'm complaining about this thread, since we already have "Apple Talk Bodega" which has turned into mostly a big whine-fest, and since I don't really care about what's wrong with any of your lives anyway and have been getting quite sick of reading about everyone's drama and problems for the last few months.

Life sucks. Get a helmet.

yeah I find myself only clicking on about 20% of the threads in apple talk these days because so many of them are about the weather or personal drama or whatever. I'm sure I've done my part to contribute to it, but this subforum is really giving my mouse wheel a work out.   I'm sure some of you have noticed I've been posting a lot less recently - it's basically just that I don't want to add to the noise.

Not everything has to be substance.  Sometimes noise is enough.

"noise" doesn't have to be pointless whining about your personal life, though. That shit is annoying IRL and it's just as annoying here. If someone in my living room was doing it constantly, I'd throw something at their head and tell them to GTFO. Basically, no one cares what's fucked-up in your life unless you can relate it in a way that makes it funny. For example, coming up with the MSY series as a way to relate the struggles of a mid-life career hiccup? (my take on it, not sure at all if that's what was in your head when you wrote it) Fucking brilliant. But all this "boo-hoo I like someone and they don't like me back" or "boo-hoo, someone likes me but I don't like them but don't want to hurt their poor little feelings" or "boo-hoo my work sucks and I don't enjoy the results of the choices I made in life" or "boo-hoo my family is mean to me" BULLSHIT is getting really fucking tired. That shit sunk EB&G. They used to have our monthly post count nearly doubled and now I check it every month or 2 and there's 20 new posts in that whole time and 15 of them are in the "CURRENT MOOD" thread. Let's not let PD go down that path just because we have an overdeveloped sense of familiarity with each other.

You bring up a couple of points that make me distinctly uncomfortable.  This will now provoke a predictable outburst from me:

You're one of those troublemakers, right?  One of those people that don't like having nice things, and want to wreck it all for the Good Americans.  One of the No People, like those people from tiny countries that make chocolate for us, or send people to burn their crotches off on our airplanes.  One of the people that demand things from us, instead of giving us the good things we deserve by virtue of being of the elect.  One of the people who think smudgy people should be allowed to run around all unregulated.

Stop hating America™, ECH, and our American right to complain loudly and publicly about things that nobody cares about, but should.  Because it's about me, ECH.  And I'm special, like a snowflake.  And we all know what color they are, right?

I'll argue that yes, people in New York deserve good roads and people in Appalacia don't.  Cars are one of the problems with this country and if we were using those funds to build a viable nbational mass transist system instead of subsidizing car usage we would cut off a major source of funding for terrorism as well as reducing our national defecit and improving our environment.  People in Appalachia deserve access to trains, New York is dense enough that buses and taxis are a viable form of mass transit, thus requiring higher quality roads for them to run on.

So, there's no need to move products or food into or out of Kentucky or Tennessee?

Great.  So they're locked out of the economy, and relegated to serfdom.

GOD BLESS AHHHH-MERICA...

Also, for me, substance needs a certain percentage of fluff to ever get born, or I burn out.

This.  I pretty much shot my wad over the last 2-3 months, and I need to accumulate more hate before I can spew again.

I predict this thread will hit 100 pages in one month or less.

Just imagine all of the individual complaint threads that won't get started because this one exists to keep it all in! Sort of like how it would be if people actually used the "random links" and "youtube" threads.

I can't.  I don't feel special enough when I have to post with everyone else.

Dok,
Whore in search of a thread title.

2- although i disagree with how the highway funding is used to strongarm states into complying with totally unrelated things,

True, and that's why we need congressmen that will actually do more than yap.

3- easier and more fair? i'll have to remember that...  also i think that characterizing the RP crowd as wanting to 'dismantle' a system has implications of them wanting to destroy rather than restore, which is what they might describe their aims as.  besides, isn't your aim to 'dismantle the system'?  what country would be more suitable for you in this context?

Restore what?  And no, my aim is to burn it all down, in a gleeful fit of senseless and wanton destruction.  But I don't pretend to have the nation's best interests at heart.  Quite the contrary, in fact. 

OT- you frequently mention being stuck in your desert.  what is your fetter in that place? just curious....

Two things:

1.  I have the last remaining job with full benefits in the country, and the last solvent school district for my kids.

2.  There's extra gravity in Arizona.  Once you're here, you can never really get away.  Sister Gothique, for example, is about halfway across North Carolina, desperately clawing at the ground in a futile attempt to stop falling West.

I'm complaining about this thread, since we already have "Apple Talk Bodega" which has turned into mostly a big whine-fest, and since I don't really care about what's wrong with any of your lives anyway and have been getting quite sick of reading about everyone's drama and problems for the last few months.

Life sucks. Get a helmet.

yeah I find myself only clicking on about 20% of the threads in apple talk these days because so many of them are about the weather or personal drama or whatever. I'm sure I've done my part to contribute to it, but this subforum is really giving my mouse wheel a work out.   I'm sure some of you have noticed I've been posting a lot less recently - it's basically just that I don't want to add to the noise.

Not everything has to be substance.  Sometimes noise is enough.

I predict this thread will hit 100 pages in one month or less.

In fact, I am doing my part by posting in this thread.

LINK OR IT NEVER HAPPENED.

I was going to suggest that you drive Filthy Assistant slowly mad, but it kind of sounds like he might be too clueless to be driven insane.

He is.

Which means he's basically a renewable resource.

I think we all need a filthy assistant.

You fuckers can have mine.

He's annoying as hell and slightly abused.  Freight costs only.

i favour "OhmygoditscreepyfuckinggetitawayfrommeohFUUUUUUUCKus!" which I think is the correct Latin term Doktor.

Or "crunch".

Dok,
Wears stompin' boots specifically to deal with scorpions.  And jackasses.