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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Cain on November 14, 2013, 09:52:54 AM

Title: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Read it here (http://wikileaks.org/tpp/):

QuoteToday, 13 November 2013, WikiLeaks released the secret negotiated draft text for the entire TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) Intellectual Property Rights Chapter. The TPP is the largest-ever economic treaty, encompassing nations representing more than 40 per cent of the world's GDP. The WikiLeaks release of the text comes ahead of the decisive TPP Chief Negotiators summit in Salt Lake City, Utah, on 19-24 November 2013. The chapter published by WikiLeaks is perhaps the most controversial chapter of the TPP due to its wide-ranging effects on medicines, publishers, internet services, civil liberties and biological patents. Significantly, the released text includes the negotiation positions and disagreements between all 12 prospective member states.

The TPP is the forerunner to the equally secret US-EU pact TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership), for which President Obama initiated US-EU negotiations in January 2013. Together, the TPP and TTIP will cover more than 60 per cent of global GDP.

So it's kinda important.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2013, 11:05:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Read it here (http://wikileaks.org/tpp/):

QuoteToday, 13 November 2013, WikiLeaks released the secret negotiated draft text for the entire TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) Intellectual Property Rights Chapter. The TPP is the largest-ever economic treaty, encompassing nations representing more than 40 per cent of the world's GDP. The WikiLeaks release of the text comes ahead of the decisive TPP Chief Negotiators summit in Salt Lake City, Utah, on 19-24 November 2013. The chapter published by WikiLeaks is perhaps the most controversial chapter of the TPP due to its wide-ranging effects on medicines, publishers, internet services, civil liberties and biological patents. Significantly, the released text includes the negotiation positions and disagreements between all 12 prospective member states.

The TPP is the forerunner to the equally secret US-EU pact TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership), for which President Obama initiated US-EU negotiations in January 2013. Together, the TPP and TTIP will cover more than 60 per cent of global GDP.

So it's kinda important.

Weren't we supposed to have done away with secret treaties with the Treaty of Versailles?
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2013, 11:33:03 AM
Sure.  Along with aggressive warfare.

Besides, I think that was secret treaties from the POV of other nations.  Their citizenry (as always), doesn't count.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2013, 11:33:03 AM
Sure.  Along with aggressive warfare.

Besides, I think that was secret treaties from the POV of other nations.  Their citizenry (as always), doesn't count.

Ah. Interesting, either way.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Reginald Ret on November 14, 2013, 12:35:23 PM
QuoteArticle QQ.A.12: {International Exhaustion of Rights}



[CL/MY/NZ/VN/SG/BN/PE propose; US/AU/JP/MX oppose: The Parties are encouraged to establish international exhaustion of rights.]


Interesting.
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaustion_doctrineUnlike the analogous first-sale doctrine in copyright, the patent exhaustion doctrine has not been codified, and is thus still a common law doctrine. It was first recognized by the Supreme Court in 1873 in Adams v. Burke. In that case, the patentee authorized a licensee to make, use, and sell patented coffin lids only within a ten-mile radius in Boston. A customer of the licensee bought the coffin lids within the ten-mile radius, but later resold the lids outside of the ten-mile radius. The patentee sued the customer, but the Supreme Court found no infringement: Once the coffin lids were lawfully made and sold, "there is no restriction on their use to be implied for the benefit of the patentee or his assignees or licensees." Because the sale was authorized (bought within the ten-mile radius), the defendant acquired the right to use the coffin lids free from any claim of the patentee, even though he used it outside the ten-mile radius.

Can this be used for plausible deniability with software products?
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 16, 2013, 04:31:29 AM
The idea that anyone could claim with a straight face that Intellectual Property laws aren't too strict already makes me sick.

Please join with me in praying that every single person involved with this trade agreement dies slowly and painfully of cancer.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2013, 04:33:46 AM
What in the fuck.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2013, 05:47:20 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 16, 2013, 04:31:29 AM
The idea that anyone could claim with a straight face that Intellectual Property laws aren't too strict already makes me sick.

Please join with me in praying that every single person involved with this trade agreement dies slowly and painfully of cancer.

Fuck you.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Cain on November 16, 2013, 10:37:45 AM
It's like the RWHN of IP.  In reverse.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: hirley0 on November 16, 2013, 11:37:24 AM
My thoughts {in the Pacific) turn to the deployment of

:fnord: USS George Washington and a contingent of seven supply ships (http://www.voanews.com/content/us-aircraft-carrier-group-begins-relief-operations-in-philippines/1790004.html)

USNS Charles Drew / Thursday. 11/14
hospital ship USS Mercy / within weeks
&  British carrier HMS Illustrious.

OK to Little to Late?1
2: where are the other members of the security council France Russia & China
3? should not the numbers per each be more like 77 than Seven ?

boo, boo, BOO, BOO, BOO. & AS FOR THE 10 TEMPS |Boo4U2 7ea seams 0K
Argentina, Australia, Azerbaijan, Guatemala, Luxembourg, Morocco,
Pakistan, Rwanda, South Korea, and Togo.

total 10*7 + 5*77 = 455 Not 7 | get a new speaker::

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,35789.msg1311859.html#msg1311859

Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: hirley0 on November 16, 2013, 11:51:39 AM
Look? it seams very VERY clear
some changes need to be made.
for one thing some effort to squelch 'canes
when they start seams approiate
including dumping oil on the ocean surface
ahead of the track. droping Ice ????/
sturing up deep cold water with Nukes
computer sims:  {boO who}
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: hirley0 on November 16, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
yes of course it seams to me as IF the members R
more interested in insecurity than security
SO: they can sell insurance. { not worth 1 b
{Maybe change their title | to the Insurance Sellers Group? (IS G)
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: LMNO on November 16, 2013, 06:51:27 PM
Slow and painful cancer?


Whoops! Trigger warning.


You fucker.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Telarus on November 16, 2013, 07:49:53 PM
Thanks for posting this Cain. I had heard about it very briefly, but didn't have any good sources.
Title: Re: Wikileaks releases draft Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 29, 2015, 10:46:01 PM
I think they're voting on this shit again soon