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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 11:15:28 AM

Title: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Country music is NOT dead!

http://www.cmt.com/videos/miranda-lambert/500805/the-house-that-built-me.jhtml
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: BadBeast on May 10, 2010, 11:23:05 AM
Very much alive, I'd say! and so versatile, accessable, and still very Yee-haw!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_fODduUkk4
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 11:27:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF5CB6pZhZc&feature=related

PITA is not a fan!  :lol:
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Faust on May 10, 2010, 06:29:57 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Country music is NOT dead!


Country music is LIFE.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
That damn song made me cry. The house in the video is so close to the one I grew up in.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Remington on May 10, 2010, 07:41:14 PM
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9027/93208155.jpg)
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 07:47:18 PM
Try this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA2NJKJBgow

Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 07:48:02 PM
The closest thing to real country music these days isn't even country, IMO.

It's Rehab, specifically The Bartender Song.  And NOT the "clean" version with Hank Jr.  No, the uncut version.  Hank Jr ought to be beaten with his dad's decayed femur for fucking that song up.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 07:48:02 PM
The closest thing to real country music these days isn't even country, IMO.

It's Rehab, specifically The Bartender Song.  And NOT the "clean" version with Hank Jr.  No, the uncut version.  Hank Jr ought to be beaten with his dad's decayed femur for fucking that song up.

And here I thought you would like that song.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 07:48:02 PM
The closest thing to real country music these days isn't even country, IMO.

It's Rehab, specifically The Bartender Song.  And NOT the "clean" version with Hank Jr.  No, the uncut version.  Hank Jr ought to be beaten with his dad's decayed femur for fucking that song up.

And here I thought you would like that song.

Which song?  The clean version?  Fuck that.  Hank Williams Jr is a pussified piece of puritanical shit these days, and should probably restrict himself to playing at Bingo Night at the centanarian's home.  He forgot his dad, he forgot his friends, and he forgot country music.

If you meant the song in the OP, it's not bad, but it doesn't smack me in the face the way Hank Sr or Johnny Cash did.

On a scale of Taylor Swift to Hank Sr, it gets a "meh".
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 07:48:02 PM
The closest thing to real country music these days isn't even country, IMO.

It's Rehab, specifically The Bartender Song.  And NOT the "clean" version with Hank Jr.  No, the uncut version.  Hank Jr ought to be beaten with his dad's decayed femur for fucking that song up.

And here I thought you would like that song.

Which song?  The clean version?  Fuck that.  Hank Williams Jr is a pussified piece of puritanical shit these days, and should probably restrict himself to playing at Bingo Night at the centanarian's home.  He forgot his dad, he forgot his friends, and he forgot country music.

If you meant the song in the OP, it's not bad, but it doesn't smack me in the face the way Hank Sr or Johnny Cash did.

I meant the OP. Hank has sold out.

But here is a classic.
http://www.livevideo.com/video/F93688085D6143D69FC2DFBA02BE918E/david-allen-coe-the-rodeo-so.aspx
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:10:15 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 07:58:31 PM

I meant the OP. Hank has sold out.

But here is a classic.
http://www.livevideo.com/video/F93688085D6143D69FC2DFBA02BE918E/david-allen-coe-the-rodeo-so.aspx

1.  Hank Jr didn't sell out, he pussed out.  He used to be the spokesman for country music, back when he and his pals wrassled it away from the watered-down pantywaists of the 70s, but in the last 10 years he's become afraid of what country music is supposed to be.

2.  Coe has his moments.  You Never Even Called Me by My Name was GENIUS.  Most of the rest of his stuff is 1970's fluff, with a bit of old-fashioned racism built in.  David Ball is good when he goes raunchy, and Garth Brooks ranged from "AMAZING" to "SHUT THE FUCK UP, GARTH".  Darryl Worley is a fucking fake-ass Grand Ole Oprey product that should be shoved down a manhole, Alan Jackson does okay (needs more sleaze), and Toby Keith is tolerable.

There hasn't been a single decent female country song since Portland Oregon by Loretta Lynn (also most disturbing video in years), and before that Martina McBride's Independence Day.

Almost everything else done in the last 40 years is ABSOLUTE RUBBISH! :crankey:
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:10:15 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 07:58:31 PM

I meant the OP. Hank has sold out.

But here is a classic.
http://www.livevideo.com/video/F93688085D6143D69FC2DFBA02BE918E/david-allen-coe-the-rodeo-so.aspx

1.  Hank Jr didn't sell out, he pussed out.  He used to be the spokesman for country music, back when he and his pals wrassled it away from the watered-down pantywaists of the 70s, but in the last 10 years he's become afraid of what country music is supposed to be.

2.  Coe has his moments.  You Never Even Called Me by My Name was GENIUS.  Most of the rest of his stuff is 1970's fluff, with a bit of old-fashioned racism built in.  David Ball is good when he goes raunchy, and Garth Brooks ranged from "AMAZING" to "SHUT THE FUCK UP, GARTH".  Darryl Worley is a fucking fake-ass Grand Ole Oprey product that should be shoved down a manhole, Alan Jackson does okay (needs more sleaze), and Toby Keith is tolerable.

There hasn't been a single decent female song since Portland Oregon by Loretta Lynn (also most disturbing video in years), and before that Martina McBride's Independence Day.

Almost everything else done in the last 40 years is ABSOLUTE RUBBISH! :crankey:

but....Gretchen Wilson.... my wife has given me permission to have a threesome with gretchen.....
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:12:18 PM

but....Gretchen Wilson.... my wife has given me permission to have a threesome with gretchen.....

Pop.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:12:18 PM

but....Gretchen Wilson.... my wife has given me permission to have a threesome with gretchen.....

Pop.

OK, confused here. I consider her very country. Not all tear in my beer stuff but not pop either.

So where do you stand on Chris Ledoux?
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:12:18 PM

but....Gretchen Wilson.... my wife has given me permission to have a threesome with gretchen.....

Pop.

OK, confused here. I consider her very country. Not all tear in my beer stuff but not pop either.

So where do you stand on Chris Ledoux?

I don't.  It's rude to stand on dead people, and it gets all over your boots.

As a singer, though, he was tolerable.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:12:18 PM

but....Gretchen Wilson.... my wife has given me permission to have a threesome with gretchen.....

Pop.

OK, confused here. I consider her very country. Not all tear in my beer stuff but not pop either.

So where do you stand on Chris Ledoux?

I don't.  It's rude to stand on dead people, and it gets all over your boots.

As a singer, though, he was tolerable.

Interesting. Look up Elizabeth Cook. If you like her you will have to order it though since no one stocks her CD's.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:12:18 PM

but....Gretchen Wilson.... my wife has given me permission to have a threesome with gretchen.....

Pop.

OK, confused here. I consider her very country. Not all tear in my beer stuff but not pop either.

So where do you stand on Chris Ledoux?

I don't.  It's rude to stand on dead people, and it gets all over your boots.

As a singer, though, he was tolerable.

Interesting. Look up Elizabeth Cook. If you like her you will have to order it though since no one stocks her CD's.

I'll Youtube it tonight.

This better deliver.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:12:18 PM

but....Gretchen Wilson.... my wife has given me permission to have a threesome with gretchen.....

Pop.

OK, confused here. I consider her very country. Not all tear in my beer stuff but not pop either.

So where do you stand on Chris Ledoux?

I don't.  It's rude to stand on dead people, and it gets all over your boots.

As a singer, though, he was tolerable.

Interesting. Look up Elizabeth Cook. If you like her you will have to order it though since no one stocks her CD's.

I'll Youtube it tonight.

This better deliver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkArY4AcUI
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.

Have to check it out.  The last thing of his I liked was Pancho and Lefty, with Merle Haggard.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.

Real country isn't considered marketable. Please see the front porch pickers unionated association for real country music.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:34:56 PM
Hey, Mr. Dismissive: 

Listen to it first, ok?
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:35:46 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.

Real country isn't considered marketable. Please see the front porch pickers unionated association for real country music.

Balls.  The ones I mentioned marketed very well.

It's just that they don't always CALL it country music.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
T Bone Burnett has been drifting to mainstream country recently. Is he trying to get back on track?
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.

Real country isn't considered marketable. Please see the front porch pickers unionated association for real country music.

Wait a second... Weren't you the one who was talking about Gretchen Wilson?
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.

Real country isn't considered marketable. Please see the front porch pickers unionated association for real country music.

Wait a second... Weren't you the one who was talking about Gretchen Wilson?

Yep. I don't hold with Doks hardline stance completely. However when it comes to Big and Rich I puke.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:38:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:34:56 PM
Hey, Mr. Dismissive: 

Listen to it first, ok?

I knew a guy in the army, used to listen to whatever "alternative" band was the newest thing going.

If the band became popular, you know, made a living at it he dropped them, as they had obviously "sold out".

Fact:  If you can't get a contract, either you're not good enough, or your style is too strange.  Real country music isn't strange, it's just fucking hard to do, and not many people can hack it.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.

Real country isn't considered marketable. Please see the front porch pickers unionated association for real country music.

Wait a second... Weren't you the one who was talking about Gretchen Wilson?

Yep. I don't hold with Doks hardline stance completely. However when it comes to Big and Rich I puke.

Gretchen Wilson is a wholly-owned subsidiary of B&R.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:40:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:38:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 10, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: EoC on May 10, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
There are a few comments on "real country" and how it's a dead genre in Crazy Heart.  I don't know country so I can't say how accurate it is.  Decent movie though, if you're interested.

It's not dead.  It is, however, on life support.

New Willie Nelson record, Country Music, produced by T Bone Burnett, c. 2010.


That's some fine shit, right there.

Real country isn't considered marketable. Please see the front porch pickers unionated association for real country music.

Wait a second... Weren't you the one who was talking about Gretchen Wilson?

Yep. I don't hold with Doks hardline stance completely. However when it comes to Big and Rich I puke.

Gretchen Wilson is a wholly-owned subsidiary of B&R.

Haven't you heard? The Musik Mafia died when Big and Rich split up.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
Forgot about Brooks and Dunn, and Montgomery Gentry, both of whom are listenable.

Van Zant has a good song.  One good song (Nobody Gonna Tell Me What To Do).
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
Forgot about Brooks and Dunn, and Montgomery Gentry, both of whom are listenable.

Van Zant has a good song.  One good song (Nobody Gonna Tell Me What To Do).

And Brooks and Dunn are retiring this year.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:43:46 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:40:54 PM
Haven't you heard? The Musik Mafia died when Big and Rich split up.

Too bad nobody told Gretchen Wilson.

She's a low rent version of Shania Twain.  Not bad, but not Country.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
Forgot about Brooks and Dunn, and Montgomery Gentry, both of whom are listenable.

Van Zant has a good song.  One good song (Nobody Gonna Tell Me What To Do).

And Brooks and Dunn are retiring this year.

And Hank Sr is dead.  Not sure what your point is.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
Forgot about Brooks and Dunn, and Montgomery Gentry, both of whom are listenable.

Van Zant has a good song.  One good song (Nobody Gonna Tell Me What To Do).

And Brooks and Dunn are retiring this year.

And Hank Sr is dead.  Not sure what your point is.


http://www.veoh.com/collection/s550796/watch/e157360jW8mbEMc
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
Forgot about Brooks and Dunn, and Montgomery Gentry, both of whom are listenable.

Van Zant has a good song.  One good song (Nobody Gonna Tell Me What To Do).

And Brooks and Dunn are retiring this year.

And Hank Sr is dead.  Not sure what your point is.


http://www.veoh.com/collection/s550796/watch/e157360jW8mbEMc

Can't see that at work.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Adios on May 10, 2010, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
Forgot about Brooks and Dunn, and Montgomery Gentry, both of whom are listenable.

Van Zant has a good song.  One good song (Nobody Gonna Tell Me What To Do).

And Brooks and Dunn are retiring this year.

And Hank Sr is dead.  Not sure what your point is.


http://www.veoh.com/collection/s550796/watch/e157360jW8mbEMc

Can't see that at work.

George Jones. Who's Gonna Fill their shoes.
Title: Re: Doktor Howl
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:53:08 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Hawk on May 10, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
Forgot about Brooks and Dunn, and Montgomery Gentry, both of whom are listenable.

Van Zant has a good song.  One good song (Nobody Gonna Tell Me What To Do).

And Brooks and Dunn are retiring this year.

And Hank Sr is dead.  Not sure what your point is.


http://www.veoh.com/collection/s550796/watch/e157360jW8mbEMc

Can't see that at work.

George Jones. Who's Gonna Fill their shoes.

George Jones was pretty damn good, when he wasn't being sappy.  Much like Willie Nelson.