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Title: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 06, 2021, 09:48:08 PM
https://apnews.com/article/congress-confirm-joe-biden-78104aea082995bbd7412a6e6cd13818
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2021, 10:01:49 PM
It did help that the cops just let them in.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 06, 2021, 10:15:15 PM
Fox news flashed some kind of code shortly before they basically walked in the place. Saw footage of cops and protesters taking selfies and shit like it's a holiday. This could be a long one. If it was me I would cut the water to the block. But it's not. This is gonna be a festival.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 06, 2021, 10:54:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 06, 2021, 10:01:49 PM
It did help that the cops just let them in.

Not entirely.  At one of the other approaches, a cop shot one of the boogs in the neck.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2021, 11:46:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 06, 2021, 10:54:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 06, 2021, 10:01:49 PM
It did help that the cops just let them in.

Not entirely.  At one of the other approaches, a cop shot one of the boogs in the neck.

Well, one did, yes. However, others were also taking selfies with the people storming the Capitol Building, so....

Also I'm not sure Trump going on TV and saying "yes this election was totes stolen but maybe please calm down" is going to help.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 06, 2021, 11:49:03 PM
Twitter and FB are deleting his posts left and right.

I think his supporters in Congress may be done, too. They know this shit was all on him.

I'm actually kind of doubting they'll continue with the vote objection bullshit when they get back to it.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Junkenstein on January 06, 2021, 11:57:09 PM
I'll take that bet. It will always get funnier. Can't see any way this doesn't escalate.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 07, 2021, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 06, 2021, 11:57:09 PM
I'll take that bet. It will always get funnier. Can't see any way this doesn't escalate.

Yeah. I keep waffling back and forth on it. Are they more mad at Trump, or afraid of their constituents?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2021, 12:17:15 AM
Trump just got banned from Twitter for 12 hours, so yes...
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 07, 2021, 12:55:04 AM
QuoteA West Virginia lawmaker took video of himself and other supporters of President Donald Trump rushing into the U.S. Capitol after they breached the security perimeter.

In the video by Republican Del. Derrick Evans, later deleted from his social media page, he is shown wearing a helmet and clamoring at the door to breach the building in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday.

"We're in! Keep it moving, baby!" he said in a packed doorway amid Trump followers holding flags and complaining of being pepper sprayed. Once inside, Evans could be seen on video milling around the Capitol Rotunda, where historical paintings depict the republic's founding, and yelled, "No vandalizing!"

State House of Delegates Speaker Roger Hanshaw said Evans will need to "answer to his constituents and colleagues regarding his involvement in what has occurred today."

He said he has not spoken to Evans yet about his involvement.

The delegate from Wayne County said in a statement later on Facebook that he was heading back to West Virginia and "was simply there as an independent member of the media to film history."

https://apnews.com/article/ap-electoral-college-congress-7af85d3c702e070464d7713c42cf254a

I think this one goes all the way down to the wormy core.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 07, 2021, 04:54:46 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 06, 2021, 10:15:15 PM
Fox news flashed some kind of code shortly before they basically walked in the place. Saw footage of cops and protesters taking selfies and shit like it's a holiday. This could be a long one. If it was me I would cut the water to the block. But it's not. This is gonna be a festival.

What code?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 07, 2021, 05:02:35 AM
They just counted the Georgia votes because "after the events of the day the senators have withdrawn their objection".

:lulz:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: rong on January 07, 2021, 06:27:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR049RRe8x5_ByBM3MDsZb_O8jSb0v44O5RzIEXAKlczC73Jn712SUnO2T4&v=WWPGq0xXte8&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR049RRe8x5_ByBM3MDsZb_O8jSb0v44O5RzIEXAKlczC73Jn712SUnO2T4&v=WWPGq0xXte8&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 07, 2021, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 07, 2021, 04:54:46 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 06, 2021, 10:15:15 PM
Fox news flashed some kind of code shortly before they basically walked in the place. Saw footage of cops and protesters taking selfies and shit like it's a holiday. This could be a long one. If it was me I would cut the water to the block. But it's not. This is gonna be a festival.

What code?

I was mistaken. It happened Tuesday during a graphic display about Georgia.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/fox-news-graphic-senate-runoffs-120758698.html
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Faust on January 07, 2021, 03:21:18 PM
Has pence made a statement?
Loyal lapdog has his boss sick his mob on him
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 07, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Hello  welcome to my unfiltered garbage

Part of me really wants to believe that this will change anything for the people who were outside the building and didn't actually want to storm it. Like, I can see that faintest glimmer of a possibility that they could see how part of a protest could be calm while another one is a complete shitstorm, that they could take a step back and say "oh so some people burned buildings during BLM events but just like I didn't want to storm the capitol and do a coup maybe the BLM people aren't about rioting." And I know, I know, it's not going to happen. It's a moment that would make sense for it to happen if it could, but the MAGA cult is very resistant to enemy memes. I know.

I am sick to death of people who are whining that police hitting these chuds with teargas or killing that woman is bad somehow. No. They are my enemies and I wish them harm. Full stop. The reasons you do things matter, and these fuckos invaded the Capitol to install their beloved dictator for another 4 years. They didn't storm it to end police brutality, or to end the concentration camps, or to end the fossil fuel industry before it kills us all. They did it because they are at best gullible wannabe revolutionaries and more likely because they are racist fucks who want to return to a fictionalized version of America where their Whiteness would get them a house and wife and kids and the ability to beat the shit out of any brown people in their neighborhood, and also the wife and kids. FUCK THEM. I HOPE THEY DIE.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 07, 2021, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 07, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Hello  welcome to my unfiltered garbage

Part of me really wants to believe that this will change anything for the people who were outside the building and didn't actually want to storm it. Like, I can see that faintest glimmer of a possibility that they could see how part of a protest could be calm while another one is a complete shitstorm, that they could take a step back and say "oh so some people burned buildings during BLM events but just like I didn't want to storm the capitol and do a coup maybe the BLM people aren't about rioting." And I know, I know, it's not going to happen. It's a moment that would make sense for it to happen if it could, but the MAGA cult is very resistant to enemy memes. I know.

I am sick to death of people who are whining that police hitting these chuds with teargas or killing that woman is bad somehow. No. They are my enemies and I wish them harm. Full stop. The reasons you do things matter, and these fuckos invaded the Capitol to install their beloved dictator for another 4 years. They didn't storm it to end police brutality, or to end the concentration camps, or to end the fossil fuel industry before it kills us all. They did it because they are at best gullible wannabe revolutionaries and more likely because they are racist fucks who want to return to a fictionalized version of America where their Whiteness would get them a house and wife and kids and the ability to beat the shit out of any brown people in their neighborhood, and also the wife and kids. FUCK THEM. I HOPE THEY DIE.

All of this.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 07, 2021, 07:13:07 PM
They very politicians who radicalized these people are now accusing them of being Antifa false-flag agent provocateurs.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2021, 11:31:28 PM
Quote from: altered on January 07, 2021, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 07, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Hello  welcome to my unfiltered garbage

Part of me really wants to believe that this will change anything for the people who were outside the building and didn't actually want to storm it. Like, I can see that faintest glimmer of a possibility that they could see how part of a protest could be calm while another one is a complete shitstorm, that they could take a step back and say "oh so some people burned buildings during BLM events but just like I didn't want to storm the capitol and do a coup maybe the BLM people aren't about rioting." And I know, I know, it's not going to happen. It's a moment that would make sense for it to happen if it could, but the MAGA cult is very resistant to enemy memes. I know.

I am sick to death of people who are whining that police hitting these chuds with teargas or killing that woman is bad somehow. No. They are my enemies and I wish them harm. Full stop. The reasons you do things matter, and these fuckos invaded the Capitol to install their beloved dictator for another 4 years. They didn't storm it to end police brutality, or to end the concentration camps, or to end the fossil fuel industry before it kills us all. They did it because they are at best gullible wannabe revolutionaries and more likely because they are racist fucks who want to return to a fictionalized version of America where their Whiteness would get them a house and wife and kids and the ability to beat the shit out of any brown people in their neighborhood, and also the wife and kids. FUCK THEM. I HOPE THEY DIE.

All of this.

Twice.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 03:49:26 AM
BREAKING NEWS!

Man with history of throwing people under buses, throws more people under a bus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4rBlac-UE

Not a bad speech, though.  Didn't sound a whit like Trump.  I'm surprised he read it.  I wonder who wrote it.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 08, 2021, 04:46:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 03:49:26 AM
BREAKING NEWS!

Man with history of throwing people under buses, throws more people under a bus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4rBlac-UE

Not a bad speech, though.  Didn't sound a whit like Trump.  I'm surprised he read it.  I wonder who wrote it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 08, 2021, 05:45:27 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 03:49:26 AM
BREAKING NEWS!

Man with history of throwing people under buses, throws more people under a bus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4rBlac-UE

Not a bad speech, though.  Didn't sound a whit like Trump.  I'm surprised he read it.  I wonder who wrote it.

Yeah, holy shit. The whole damn thing looked like "I'm being held hostage and this script is fake," probably because he didn't want to read it but someone finally laid down the law and a metric fuckton of blackmail material.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 08, 2021, 05:52:00 AM
In other news!

For once, I actually prefer Facebook's handling of literally a single goddamn thing ever to Twitter's. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/technology/facebook-trump-ban.html

Twitter has unbanned him, though he has no more warnings left and will be banned with one more slip-up.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 08, 2021, 06:55:48 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2021, 11:31:28 PM
Quote from: altered on January 07, 2021, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 07, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Hello  welcome to my unfiltered garbage

Part of me really wants to believe that this will change anything for the people who were outside the building and didn't actually want to storm it. Like, I can see that faintest glimmer of a possibility that they could see how part of a protest could be calm while another one is a complete shitstorm, that they could take a step back and say "oh so some people burned buildings during BLM events but just like I didn't want to storm the capitol and do a coup maybe the BLM people aren't about rioting." And I know, I know, it's not going to happen. It's a moment that would make sense for it to happen if it could, but the MAGA cult is very resistant to enemy memes. I know.

I am sick to death of people who are whining that police hitting these chuds with teargas or killing that woman is bad somehow. No. They are my enemies and I wish them harm. Full stop. The reasons you do things matter, and these fuckos invaded the Capitol to install their beloved dictator for another 4 years. They didn't storm it to end police brutality, or to end the concentration camps, or to end the fossil fuel industry before it kills us all. They did it because they are at best gullible wannabe revolutionaries and more likely because they are racist fucks who want to return to a fictionalized version of America where their Whiteness would get them a house and wife and kids and the ability to beat the shit out of any brown people in their neighborhood, and also the wife and kids. FUCK THEM. I HOPE THEY DIE.

All of this.

Twice.

This is the closest thing we have to an emote reclecting my feelings on the matter. That and this little guy. :evil:
:pax:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Faust on January 08, 2021, 08:51:01 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 03:49:26 AM
BREAKING NEWS!

Man with history of throwing people under buses, throws more people under a bus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4rBlac-UE

Not a bad speech, though.  Didn't sound a whit like Trump.  I'm surprised he read it.  I wonder who wrote it.

Watching this made me very uncomfortable. Like if the camera was to pan right would we see his kids with a gun to their heads.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: TheAudience on January 08, 2021, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 08, 2021, 08:51:01 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 03:49:26 AM
BREAKING NEWS!

Man with history of throwing people under buses, throws more people under a bus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4rBlac-UE

Not a bad speech, though.  Didn't sound a whit like Trump.  I'm surprised he read it.  I wonder who wrote it.

Watching this made me very uncomfortable. Like if the camera was to pan right would we see his kids with a gun to their heads.

Anyone got an over/under on when he returns to his usual rhetoric of "We won by a landslide, I never concede"?

The pundits I tune into have been breathing a sigh of relief at this video and saying "Its finally over, he concedes". And I scream "Have You Learned Nothing!"

"Babe, I didn't mean it I swear, just come back!" says the abuser.

I give him till next Tuesday before he is back at it again.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 08, 2021, 03:02:27 PM

I dont think hes ever actually apologized before that moment... the power that forced him to do that will not banish in such a short time span.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: TheAudience on January 08, 2021, 01:37:59 PM
Anyone got an over/under on when he returns to his usual rhetoric of "We won by a landslide, I never concede"?

The pundits I tune into have been breathing a sigh of relief at this video and saying "Its finally over, he concedes". And I scream "Have You Learned Nothing!"

"Babe, I didn't mean it I swear, just come back!" says the abuser.

I give him till next Tuesday before he is back at it again.

A week ago, I was expecting him to refuse to concede indefinitely, even after Biden's inauguration.  I don't believe Trump has changed his mind, so there must be an unknown factor at play here.  How long it takes for him to revert to form depends on the strength of that factor.

I'd bet on end-of-day Saturday, latest.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on January 08, 2021, 06:23:27 PM
I'm pretty sure he didn't concede in that speech.  He talked about a transition of power, but never actually admitted he lost.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 08, 2021, 07:17:22 PM
YOU GUYS
YOU GUYS
THE LOCAL NAZI FUCK
THE ONE WHO LIVES IN MY CITY
WE HAVE DOX OF HIM INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUILDING
MOTHERFUCKER MIGHT ACTUALLY PAY FOR SOMETHING FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE
I AM CRYING OVER HERE
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on January 08, 2021, 07:21:30 PM
Ooh!  Please keep us up-to-date on that.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 08, 2021, 08:29:26 PM
Did he taze himself in the balls?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 08, 2021, 10:30:48 PM
No but we're hollering about him and his nazi friends at city hall Sunday. The chief of police is excited.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2021, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 08, 2021, 07:17:22 PM
YOU GUYS
YOU GUYS
THE LOCAL NAZI FUCK
THE ONE WHO LIVES IN MY CITY
WE HAVE DOX OF HIM INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUILDING
MOTHERFUCKER MIGHT ACTUALLY PAY FOR SOMETHING FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE
I AM CRYING OVER HERE

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 09, 2021, 12:24:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2021, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 08, 2021, 07:17:22 PM
YOU GUYS
YOU GUYS
THE LOCAL NAZI FUCK
THE ONE WHO LIVES IN MY CITY
WE HAVE DOX OF HIM INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUILDING
MOTHERFUCKER MIGHT ACTUALLY PAY FOR SOMETHING FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE
I AM CRYING OVER HERE

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

:nuke:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 09, 2021, 07:51:22 AM
Good news from Mass. then! Let me know how it goes.



In other news, the fallout from this gets FUNNIER.

https://www.theverge.com/22218805/donald-trump-platforms-bans-facebook-twitter-youtube

Trump's banned from Twitter forever, we know that by now. But there's more laughs to go around, folks.

His team's Twitter: gone.
His digital communications director's Twitter: gone.
His fucking Shopify store: gone.

But wait! There's more!

His @POTUS posts got deleted and Twitter has said they'll keep doing it.
All the Q-morons are going down on Twitter too.

And on top of that!

The /other/ Trumpist subreddit got banned.
The Trumpist Discord server got banned.
Google removed Parler from the Play Store.
Apple's aiming to do it next, because they're demanding moderation policies, which Parler will never agree to.

There is so much butthurt going around, and with the arrests going down the far-right power base is losing the ability to coordinate anything -- everyone's gonna be too scared to do anything except the real hardliners. Who don't have the ability to coordinate effectively or the backing of numbers, and who likely are being hunted down by the filth after that little incident with Congress... Whoopsie doodle, sorta /really/ goddamn fucked the dog with that whole "storm the Capitol" thing, didn't they?

But there's one particular thing I want to leave you all with, to bring a smile, to /truly/ bless this god-forsaken wilderness with warm happiness.

Imagine Ron Paul Weed at this moment. He must be hopping fucking mad. He must be boiling the fuck over. Imagine Ron Paul Weed jumping around in a manic fit of despair and anger, shrieking, breaking his desk over his computer, then his computer over his head.

Ah, the little joys in life...
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 09, 2021, 08:29:08 AM

Very poetic that one of the people that died that day, was carrying a "Dont thread on me" flag, and got trampled.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I've been hearing reports from multiple states of the National Guards mobilizing. Seems like they're planning on not fucking around next time.

Good thing, too. The insurrectionists probably won't be either. Hopefully, they're sending some to protect weak points in the infrastructure while they're at it.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 09, 2021, 09:00:55 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I've been hearing reports from multiple states of the National Guards mobilizing. Seems like they're planning on not fucking around next time.

Good thing, too. The insurrectionists probably won't be either. Hopefully, they're sending some to protect weak points in the infrastructure while they're at it.

Maybe they'll just take pictures with them, as the critical infrastructure is on fire in the background.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 09, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I've been hearing reports from multiple states of the National Guards mobilizing. Seems like they're planning on not fucking around next time.

Good thing, too. The insurrectionists probably won't be either. Hopefully, they're sending some to protect weak points in the infrastructure while they're at it.

The problem was last time Trump wanted the National Guard to mobilise against the counter-protestors (https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1347808980786098177).

This is why certain European intelligence agencies have people who think this was a planned coup. If if it had worked, the National Guard would have secured Capitol Hill but let the Trumpists run riot inside. And while a lot of these idiots were farcical, some did come armed and with ziplocks on show - they intended to take hostages.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 09, 2021, 10:30:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I've been hearing reports from multiple states of the National Guards mobilizing. Seems like they're planning on not fucking around next time.

Good thing, too. The insurrectionists probably won't be either. Hopefully, they're sending some to protect weak points in the infrastructure while they're at it.

The problem was last time Trump wanted the National Guard to mobilise against the counter-protestors (https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1347808980786098177).

This is why certain European intelligence agencies have people who think this was a planned coup. If if it had worked, the National Guard would have secured Capitol Hill but let the Trumpists run riot inside. And while a lot of these idiots were farcical, some did come armed and with ziplocks on show - they intended to take hostages.

Even within this forum I have contradictory recollections on what side people thought the NG would take... I vaguely remember the NG enforced aggresively a curfew in urban neighbourhoods... but i also recall people here arguing that the NG are more loyal to the State and the Constitution than the President itself... and now you're saying the NG would support the coup.

I dont remember who said what, and if the narrative has changed based on how they acted in each scenario, just pointing out the contradictions.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 09, 2021, 10:54:31 PM
The chain of command gives the President and the state Governor authority over all National Guard units.

DC isn't a state, so it doesn't have a Governor, the National Guard comes under the authority of the President, as would seconded National Guard units from nearby states.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 09, 2021, 09:00:55 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I've been hearing reports from multiple states of the National Guards mobilizing. Seems like they're planning on not fucking around next time.

Good thing, too. The insurrectionists probably won't be either. Hopefully, they're sending some to protect weak points in the infrastructure while they're at it.

Maybe they'll just take pictures with them, as the critical infrastructure is on fire in the background.

They better bring their Polaroids.

My niece got one for Christmas. I didn't know they were even still a thing.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I've been hearing reports from multiple states of the National Guards mobilizing. Seems like they're planning on not fucking around next time.

Good thing, too. The insurrectionists probably won't be either. Hopefully, they're sending some to protect weak points in the infrastructure while they're at it.

The problem was last time Trump wanted the National Guard to mobilise against the counter-protestors (https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1347808980786098177).

This is why certain European intelligence agencies have people who think this was a planned coup. If if it had worked, the National Guard would have secured Capitol Hill but let the Trumpists run riot inside. And while a lot of these idiots were farcical, some did come armed and with ziplocks on show - they intended to take hostages.

Yeah. I definitely haven't ruled out the possibility that everything is not going to be okay. I just spent my entire stimulus check on solar panels and 2-way radios. I hope they get here before civilization ends.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 09, 2021, 11:11:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2021, 10:54:31 PM
The chain of command gives the President and the state Governor authority over all National Guard units.

DC isn't a state, so it doesn't have a Governor, the National Guard comes under the authority of the President, as would seconded National Guard units from nearby states.

I see, i was too focused computing other factors and i forgot this one.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2021, 11:15:31 PM
Quote from: altered on January 09, 2021, 07:51:22 AM

But there's one particular thing I want to leave you all with, to bring a smile, to /truly/ bless this god-forsaken wilderness with warm happiness.

Imagine Ron Paul Weed at this moment. He must be hopping fucking mad. He must be boiling the fuck over. Imagine Ron Paul Weed jumping around in a manic fit of despair and anger, shrieking, breaking his desk over his computer, then his computer over his head.

Ah, the little joys in life...

:lulz:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 09, 2021, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 09, 2021, 11:11:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2021, 10:54:31 PM
The chain of command gives the President and the state Governor authority over all National Guard units.

DC isn't a state, so it doesn't have a Governor, the National Guard comes under the authority of the President, as would seconded National Guard units from nearby states.

I see, i was too focused computing other factors and i forgot this one.

Quote from: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 09, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
I've been hearing reports from multiple states of the National Guards mobilizing. Seems like they're planning on not fucking around next time.

Good thing, too. The insurrectionists probably won't be either. Hopefully, they're sending some to protect weak points in the infrastructure while they're at it.

The problem was last time Trump wanted the National Guard to mobilise against the counter-protestors (https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1347808980786098177).

This is why certain European intelligence agencies have people who think this was a planned coup. If if it had worked, the National Guard would have secured Capitol Hill but let the Trumpists run riot inside. And while a lot of these idiots were farcical, some did come armed and with ziplocks on show - they intended to take hostages.

Yeah. I definitely haven't ruled out the possibility that everything is not going to be okay. I just spent my entire stimulus check on solar panels and 2-way radios. I hope they get here before civilization ends.

I think this is why the Pentagon initially refused to mobilise the National Guard in DC on the day. There were reports that they were asked to, but essentially responded "new administration incoming, who dis?" to the call. At the time I was speaking to an army person and their theory was that the DC Police, despite the notable failings on the day, generally are trained for deescalation and crowd control, and so could handle matters better than the National Guard. Obviously, more facts have come to light since then.

From what I'm hearing, the "failed coup attempt" angle is being taken seriously as a theory of what happened on the day by certain European agencies. How heavily planned this was, beyond "trying to strongarm Pence and Congress with the sight of an angry mob" is definitely up for debate, but that the President and those around him whipped the crowd into a frenzy is not.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on January 11, 2021, 02:15:35 PM
Not that we needed it, but always nice to hear it being said out loud. (https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1348542468434890755?s=20)
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 11, 2021, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 11, 2021, 02:15:35 PM
Not that we needed it, but always nice to hear it being said out loud. (https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1348542468434890755?s=20)

:lulz:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on January 11, 2021, 03:17:03 PM
Also, I need someone with more experience to verify this, but The White Hats have been working hard behind the scenes (https://twitter.com/Crackmacs/status/1348510605217468417?s=20) at Parler.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 11, 2021, 04:04:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 11, 2021, 03:17:03 PM
Also, I need someone with more experience to verify this, but The White Hats have been working hard behind the scenes (https://twitter.com/Crackmacs/status/1348510605217468417?s=20) at Parler.

There appears to be some confusion and/or misinformation over the exact type of the security "breach", but the exploits involved seem plausible, since they only require conventional incompetence on the part of Parler's platform developers.

The attack I find most plausible is that it was possible to scrape the entire set of Parler's posts, (and user information?), simply by sending their server requests with a sequentially incrementing ID.  It is possible this includes deleted posts.

This appears to be one of the primary sources:
https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348281459031814146

Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 12, 2021, 01:55:41 AM
Is it weird that the government is announcing/advertising the "armed protests in all 50 states"?

Wouldn't that just encourage more people to show up?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 12, 2021, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 12, 2021, 01:55:41 AM
Is it weird that the government is announcing/advertising the "armed protests in all 50 states"?

Wouldn't that just encourage more people to show up?

If you mean this: https://apnews.com/article/fbi-warns-armed-protests-next-week-ec75b26289166b4afd30c15b0dd2ded5

Then:

QuoteAn internal FBI bulletin warned, as of Sunday, that the nationwide protests may start later this week and extend through Biden's Jan. 20 inauguration, according to two law enforcement officials who read details of the memo to The Associated Press. Investigators believe some of the people are members of extremist groups, the officials said. The bulletin was first reported by ABC.

So to me its not the FBI doing this, its some "law enforcement officials" being jackasses and leaking internal memos.

It's like these particular police officials want to incite and promote this clown fiesta for some reason by casually and indirectly inviting everyone to prepare themselves for it.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 12, 2021, 04:18:30 PM
The actual uprising attempt will be next week, somewhere between the 18th and the 20th, from what I gather.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 12, 2021, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 12, 2021, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 12, 2021, 01:55:41 AM
Is it weird that the government is announcing/advertising the "armed protests in all 50 states"?

Wouldn't that just encourage more people to show up?

If you mean this: https://apnews.com/article/fbi-warns-armed-protests-next-week-ec75b26289166b4afd30c15b0dd2ded5

Then:

QuoteAn internal FBI bulletin warned, as of Sunday, that the nationwide protests may start later this week and extend through Biden's Jan. 20 inauguration, according to two law enforcement officials who read details of the memo to The Associated Press. Investigators believe some of the people are members of extremist groups, the officials said. The bulletin was first reported by ABC.

So to me its not the FBI doing this, its some "law enforcement officials" being jackasses and leaking internal memos.

It's like these particular police officials want to incite and promote this clown fiesta for some reason by casually and indirectly inviting everyone to prepare themselves for it.

Yeah. At this point, I think I'm more concerned about Trump loyalists inside law enforcement and military than I am random yahoos.

Also, as far as I can tell, they're focusing on guarding government buildings. The media are likely going to be considered prime targets as well.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 15, 2021, 05:12:24 PM
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-14/national-guard-at-capitol-authorized-to-use-lethal-force-in-aftermath-of-mob
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Junkenstein on January 16, 2021, 01:34:39 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 12, 2021, 04:18:30 PM
The actual uprising attempt will be next week, somewhere between the 18th and the 20th, from what I gather.

Is this planned bout of civil war on schedule?

Hard to see much but blood coming bidens way, regardless of his own choices. Go for the healing spiel, fuckwits continue. Go for punishment, big or small, fuckwits feel wronged and continue.

Add in guns and it's a lottery of which town gets "massacre" added to its name. To start.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 16, 2021, 02:05:11 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 16, 2021, 01:34:39 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 12, 2021, 04:18:30 PM
The actual uprising attempt will be next week, somewhere between the 18th and the 20th, from what I gather.

Is this planned bout of civil war on schedule?

Hard to see much but blood coming bidens way, regardless of his own choices. Go for the healing spiel, fuckwits continue. Go for punishment, big or small, fuckwits feel wronged and continue.

Add in guns and it's a lottery of which town gets "massacre" added to its name. To start.

"Surely we should look for a middle-ground with the fascistic domestic terrorists! That should appease them! This strategy, after all, avoided World War II and prevented 84 million deaths!" said the Democratic party for the last decade.

(source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement)
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2021, 10:50:06 AM
Over half of the Republican Party voters think Trump did nothing wrong on the day, and his overall approval rating is still at 78% within the party.

So yeah, they're gonna appease them. Not the rioters themselves, of course, just the people who think insurrection is very cool and very legal, and that the Dems literally kill and eat babies.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Junkenstein on January 16, 2021, 02:36:31 PM
So barring a heart attack or being restricted from office, in 4 years mango Mao gets to play kingmaker?

Civil war may almost be preferable.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2021, 07:30:51 PM
Well, they're very quick to drop losers, which Trump undeniably also is. I mean, look how Bush Jr, McCain/Palin and Romney disappeared down the memory hole.

But also all of those, Palin aside, didn't throw red meat to the xenophobic and racist base in the way Trump has.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Johnny on January 16, 2021, 09:39:43 PM
The problems with certain mobs, is that you can get rid of the leader, but their "attitude" persists and worsens... the Trump era is just about over, but what im worried about is who is going to replace him, whom everyone will swarm around.

Addendum: and who knows, he might still run for governor and win in some red state.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Trivial on January 18, 2021, 06:08:47 AM
https://projects.propublica.org/parler-capitol-videos/ (https://projects.propublica.org/parler-capitol-videos/)
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: ReverendJesus on January 19, 2021, 05:16:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 16, 2021, 07:30:51 PM
Well, they're very quick to drop losers, which Trump undeniably also is. I mean, look how Bush Jr, McCain/Palin and Romney disappeared down the memory hole.

But also all of those, Palin aside, didn't throw red meat to the xenophobic and racist base in the way Trump has.

Yeah, Palin appealed to them and threw out dog-whistles, but Trump just got a whistle 'cause he's too godsdamned stupid to spell "subtext."
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 20, 2021, 10:43:47 AM
So, this affidavit is interesting https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/u-s-v-thomas-edward-caldwell-donovan-ray-crowl-and-jessica-marie-watkins/d3e8cbfe-dad5-4286-91f6-6461638e1fc9/?tid=ss_tw

QuoteOn January 6, 2021, while at the Capitol, CALDWELL received the following Facebook message:
"All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in . Turn on gas".

When CALDWELL posted a Facebook message that read, "Inside," he received the following messages, among others:

"Tom take that bitch over";
"Tom all legislators are down in the Tunnels 3floors down";
"Do like we had to do when I was in the core start tearing oit florrs go from top to bottom";
and
"Go through back house chamber doors facing N left down hallway down steps."

That sounds like someone with inside knowledge giving directions to the Oath Keepers to me.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: ReverendJesus on January 20, 2021, 09:07:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2021, 10:43:47 AM
So, this affidavit is interesting https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/u-s-v-thomas-edward-caldwell-donovan-ray-crowl-and-jessica-marie-watkins/d3e8cbfe-dad5-4286-91f6-6461638e1fc9/?tid=ss_tw

QuoteOn January 6, 2021, while at the Capitol, CALDWELL received the following Facebook message:
"All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in . Turn on gas".

When CALDWELL posted a Facebook message that read, "Inside," he received the following messages, among others:

"Tom take that bitch over";
"Tom all legislators are down in the Tunnels 3floors down";
"Do like we had to do when I was in the core start tearing oit florrs go from top to bottom";
and
"Go through back house chamber doors facing N left down hallway down steps."

That sounds like someone with inside knowledge giving directions to the Oath Keepers to me.

Holy fuck, that's terrifying.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on January 20, 2021, 11:22:23 PM
I'll say one thing: at least Discordians realize their ideology is made up.

https://apple.news/Aj1YdmZAJS5qJLGV93mHdag
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 20, 2021, 11:32:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2021, 10:43:47 AM
So, this affidavit is interesting https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/u-s-v-thomas-edward-caldwell-donovan-ray-crowl-and-jessica-marie-watkins/d3e8cbfe-dad5-4286-91f6-6461638e1fc9/?tid=ss_tw

QuoteOn January 6, 2021, while at the Capitol, CALDWELL received the following Facebook message:
"All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in . Turn on gas".

When CALDWELL posted a Facebook message that read, "Inside," he received the following messages, among others:

"Tom take that bitch over";
"Tom all legislators are down in the Tunnels 3floors down";
"Do like we had to do when I was in the core start tearing oit florrs go from top to bottom";
and
"Go through back house chamber doors facing N left down hallway down steps."

That sounds like someone with inside knowledge giving directions to the Oath Keepers to me.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2021, 03:03:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2021, 10:43:47 AM
So, this affidavit is interesting https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/u-s-v-thomas-edward-caldwell-donovan-ray-crowl-and-jessica-marie-watkins/d3e8cbfe-dad5-4286-91f6-6461638e1fc9/?tid=ss_tw

QuoteOn January 6, 2021, while at the Capitol, CALDWELL received the following Facebook message:
"All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in . Turn on gas".

When CALDWELL posted a Facebook message that read, "Inside," he received the following messages, among others:

"Tom take that bitch over";
"Tom all legislators are down in the Tunnels 3floors down";
"Do like we had to do when I was in the core start tearing oit florrs go from top to bottom";
and
"Go through back house chamber doors facing N left down hallway down steps."

That sounds like someone with inside knowledge giving directions to the Oath Keepers to me.

"When I was in the core"?  :lulz:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Galerson on January 21, 2021, 04:42:24 AM
At least no violence at the inauguration!
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2021, 02:08:43 PM
Quote from: Galerson on January 21, 2021, 04:42:24 AM
At least no violence at the inauguration!

:tgrr:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 21, 2021, 02:27:17 PM
A question for Cain:

Given what we've been seeing, how compromised does it look like the US government is?

The three things I'm thinking of here --
The all but outright admission a couple years back that some GOP senators are believed /by their own party/ to be on a Russian payroll.
The boogs getting inside info while storming the Capitol.
The absolute stonewalling that Biden's transition team is getting, particularly from the Pentagon.

Beyond that, we also have some general worry that the militia movement and Q loonies have foreign money behind them.

I'm currently inclined to say that everyone not coming in with Biden is basically as good as confirmed to be in service to a state actor. I'm almost thinking that it might be worth putting out some sort of clemency program -- admit to taking Russian money to undermine the US, and you'll be given a quiet retirement package, train a replacement with the oversight of some intelligence folks, and the whole thing will be considered over, no prosecution. Then you root out any hardliners and smash them for not taking the out when they had it.  The reasoning being, basically, there's too many compromised people to smash them all without destroying the ability of the government to function long-term.

How paranoid is this?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cramulus on January 21, 2021, 03:32:11 PM
I have a friend who works in cybersecurity and gives trainings to alphabet soup agencies about emerging tech.

He once told me about how he was conducting a training in an FBI building, and was demonstrating how to link up wifi signals with physical devices... after matching up each wifi signal with each physical device, there was one Dell server left over which nobody could find.. turned out that it was a raspberry pi hidden inside a drop ceiling, disguising itself as a server. But it was actually just scraping network data. Very hard to find, you'd really have to be looking for this specific trick in order to locate it.

My buddy told me that the rule-of-thumb assumption is that 1 out of 100 people in a crowd is actually a foreign actor. Based on that, assume that several backpacks entered the capitol building for the purposes of espionage. They'll spend the next few months combing over the capitol building's networks with a fine tooth comb -- but right now, they assume the network is compromised.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 21, 2021, 04:15:01 PM
I was thinking HUMINT compromised, not so much SIGINT (because I know for an absolute /fact/ that is).
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2021, 04:16:00 PM
Generally the idea in any kind of intelligence operation is to reduce it to as few key people as possible - the more involved, the greater the chance of a leak. So I doubt more than a handful of people would be involved knowingly with a foreign state actor.

I'd also like to think that Russian intelligence - if they were directing people - would have had better targets in mind than "Pelosi's laptop used for slideshows". In particular they would have targeted the House and Senate Intelligence, military and foreign affairs related computers first and foremost. Targets like Pelosi is pure American right psychosis and doesn't really serve any credible intelligence objective.

What's more worrying is whatever was going on with the Pentagon, National Guard command, the White House and Capitol Hill on the day, which seems to be entirely an internal affair and one I'm still struggling to make a cohesive picture out of. European intelligence agencies believe the National Guard would be used to lockdown the area - but not take on Trump supporters, who would be left free to roam and cause as much damage as possible. But Congress did ask for National Guard assistance, at one point during the day. So why did the Pentagon initially refuse in both cases, only mobilising well after the event? Perhaps even more pointedly, where were senior DC police officers? More than one report has a significant number of command figures essentially going AWOL on the day - no-one knew where they were or how to contact them. It's a very murky picture, but as far as I can tell it's an American one. The Russians mostly stand by the sides and fan the flames - being too overt will backfire on them and they know it.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 21, 2021, 04:26:56 PM
Oh, yeah, I'm mostly thinking in the military/police apparatus and in the right wing political sphere. Goals would be more along the lines of complete sabotage than intelligence acquisition; Russian goals right now seem to be to cause the US to implode, leaving Russia and China as the only world superpowers while America Balkanizes and devolves into in-fighting. Literally the 50s-60s NATO Cold War strategy, but flipped around to target the US.

And yeah, you increase the surface area and someone's going to end up evaporating off and blowing the whole op. My feeling was that these people are not working together, or even towards the same goals necessarily, probably with totally disconnected handlers, most of whom don't necessarily work for the Russian state per se (oligarchs, etc). The risks remain, but the damage someone flaking can cause is greatly reduced.

But I trust your judgement on the matter more than my own, and if you say it seems like an American problem, I can accept that.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2021, 05:33:19 PM
Yeah, the outsourcing of certain parts of the Russian intelligence appartus does certainly complicate matters, when it comes to attribution. Especially since some of them have their own complicated relationship with the Russian state.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2021, 05:35:20 PM
Also it turns out Mike Flynn's brother (https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1352104146871181312) was the one who turned down the Capitol Police
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 21, 2021, 05:58:27 PM
Jesus Christ.

This whole Jan 6th thing is looking more and more like actual planned insurrection.

I'm not a LAWNORDA type normally, but I kinda hope everyone involved goes the fuck down. Hard. Jailing all these major political figures for /literal attempted overthrow of the US/ will kind of fuck up their messaging, and maybe they'll have to pivot away from being the Nazi Party 2.0. Yes, yes, laugh all you want, I'm allowed to be optimistic once a month goddamnit.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2021, 06:36:13 PM
What is LAWNORDA?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 21, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Say it out loud with an absurdly strong southern accent.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2021, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Say it out loud with an absurdly strong southern accent.

Oh no. I'm not falling for that one again. Last time I evoked half of the Lesser Key and had a dickens of a time sorting everything out on a bus without getting arrested or any untoward agreements being made.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 21, 2021, 07:37:12 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Say it out loud with an absurdly strong southern accent.

Since this is my default, I'm just confused as to why you momentarily stopped typing in that weird accent.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 21, 2021, 07:58:35 PM
Wheel, ah rek'n 'at's a-coss ah en't from dan sath. Ah'm wunna 'ehm NORTHUN fokes.

(side note, I haven't figured out a good way to type out the softened "th" so I just omitted it which means this is like, one of the BAD British accents meets Alabama and I apologize to both Alabama and Britain for this)
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 21, 2021, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2021, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Say it out loud with an absurdly strong southern accent.

Oh no. I'm not falling for that one again. Last time I evoked half of the Lesser Key and had a dickens of a time sorting everything out on a bus without getting arrested or any untoward agreements being made.
You needn't worry about it causing any eldritch entanglements.

I mean, sure, you'll trigger every person of Chaotic alignment within earshot, and some of them might take a swing at you -- I clenched my teeth just reading it -- but you're not likely to summon anything from Outside.

Unless you mangle the pronunciation.

Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2021, 08:48:26 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 07:58:35 PM
Wheel, ah rek'n 'at's a-coss ah en't from dan sath. Ah'm wunna 'ehm NORTHUN fokes.

(side note, I haven't figured out a good way to type out the softened "th" so I just omitted it which means this is like, one of the BAD British accents meets Alabama and I apologize to both Alabama and Britain for this)

So, Australian?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2021, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 21, 2021, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2021, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Say it out loud with an absurdly strong southern accent.

Oh no. I'm not falling for that one again. Last time I evoked half of the Lesser Key and had a dickens of a time sorting everything out on a bus without getting arrested or any untoward agreements being made.
You needn't worry about it causing any eldritch entanglements.

I mean, sure, you'll trigger every person of Chaotic alignment within earshot, and some of them might take a swing at you -- I clenched my teeth just reading it -- but you're not likely to summon anything from Outside.

Unless you mangle the pronunciation.

On the other hand, are you willing to risk your soul on a vowel point?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2021, 09:03:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2021, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 21, 2021, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2021, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Say it out loud with an absurdly strong southern accent.

Oh no. I'm not falling for that one again. Last time I evoked half of the Lesser Key and had a dickens of a time sorting everything out on a bus without getting arrested or any untoward agreements being made.
You needn't worry about it causing any eldritch entanglements.

I mean, sure, you'll trigger every person of Chaotic alignment within earshot, and some of them might take a swing at you -- I clenched my teeth just reading it -- but you're not likely to summon anything from Outside.

Unless you mangle the pronunciation.

On the other hand, are you willing to risk your soul on a vowel point?

That's what I'm saying man.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 21, 2021, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 07:58:35 PM
Wheel, ah rek'n 'at's a-coss ah en't from dan sath. Ah'm wunna 'ehm NORTHUN fokes.

(side note, I haven't figured out a good way to type out the softened "th" so I just omitted it which means this is like, one of the BAD British accents meets Alabama and I apologize to both Alabama and Britain for this)

I'm not quite that far south. Tennessee, which is a little less Foghorn Leghorn. If you ever wanted to hear my specific dialect, just listen to Scott Baio's wife. I went to elementary school with her.

Also, "Zombie Farmer" on youtube. Those guys are everywhere around here, and they all drive the biggest white truck they can get their hands on.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on January 22, 2021, 12:30:05 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 21, 2021, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2021, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: altered on January 21, 2021, 06:49:36 PM
Say it out loud with an absurdly strong southern accent.

Oh no. I'm not falling for that one again. Last time I evoked half of the Lesser Key and had a dickens of a time sorting everything out on a bus without getting arrested or any untoward agreements being made.
You needn't worry about it causing any eldritch entanglements.

I mean, sure, you'll trigger every person of Chaotic alignment within earshot, and some of them might take a swing at you -- I clenched my teeth just reading it -- but you're not likely to summon anything from Outside.

Unless you mangle the pronunciation.

I am glad to know that I have maintained the use of Power Word Pain despite being years out of practice.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2021, 04:51:07 PM
This is bad. Very, very bad. Tucker Carlson is defending and promoting Qanon (https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1353873669437665280).
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: ReverendJesus on January 26, 2021, 04:55:37 PM
Seems about par for the course, really. I don't get why everyone's acting all fuckin' surprised; FFS idiots like me have been screaming about this happening since Fox called the election.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2021, 08:44:42 PM
The failure of Qanon predictions regarding the election is a wake up call for those still in the cult. By creating positive reinforcement for it, Carlson is now actively calling for support of a group who do not accept Biden's legitimacy and are increasingly willing to use violence to make their point.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 26, 2021, 08:57:42 PM
When faced with a crisis (like the failure of a major prophecy), cults can become more extreme, rather than dissolving.

The more moderate members of the cult leave, but the more extreme elements remain.  With the reduction in moderating influences (and the increase in cognitive dissonance required to weather the failure), the group as a whole shifts even further into madness.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on January 26, 2021, 09:01:11 PM
I think Elizer called it "The Evaporation Cooling Effect"
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 29, 2021, 06:28:17 AM
This thing with Reddit and Gamestop kind of seems to me to be a second major attack on "the establishment" by an angry mob in a matter of just a few weeks. I wonder when and where the next one will take place. I have a feeling it's going to be a continuing theme this year.

I bet even that brood of cicadas due to emerge in a few months will be, like, super aggressive. Maul some raccoons and shit, or whatever eats cicadas, I dunno.


ETA: Also, the WTB group may have been goaded into the attack by wealthy demagogues looking to use their anger to furthur their own self-interests. If so, that could be another aspect of the pattern.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 29, 2021, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2021, 11:31:28 PM
Quote from: altered on January 07, 2021, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 07, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Hello  welcome to my unfiltered garbage

Part of me really wants to believe that this will change anything for the people who were outside the building and didn't actually want to storm it. Like, I can see that faintest glimmer of a possibility that they could see how part of a protest could be calm while another one is a complete shitstorm, that they could take a step back and say "oh so some people burned buildings during BLM events but just like I didn't want to storm the capitol and do a coup maybe the BLM people aren't about rioting." And I know, I know, it's not going to happen. It's a moment that would make sense for it to happen if it could, but the MAGA cult is very resistant to enemy memes. I know.

I am sick to death of people who are whining that police hitting these chuds with teargas or killing that woman is bad somehow. No. They are my enemies and I wish them harm. Full stop. The reasons you do things matter, and these fuckos invaded the Capitol to install their beloved dictator for another 4 years. They didn't storm it to end police brutality, or to end the concentration camps, or to end the fossil fuel industry before it kills us all. They did it because they are at best gullible wannabe revolutionaries and more likely because they are racist fucks who want to return to a fictionalized version of America where their Whiteness would get them a house and wife and kids and the ability to beat the shit out of any brown people in their neighborhood, and also the wife and kids. FUCK THEM. I HOPE THEY DIE.

All of this.

Twice.

Thrice. Soz, late to the party but it's been motherfucking busy as a motherfucker this end
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 29, 2021, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 03:49:26 AM
BREAKING NEWS!

Man with history of throwing people under buses, throws more people under a bus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4rBlac-UE

Not a bad speech, though.  Didn't sound a whit like Trump.  I'm surprised he read it.  I wonder who wrote it.

That has got to be one of the most piss poor uses of deepfake tech I've seen since since Faceswap came out on iphone and I had to look at nothing but on my insta feed for the best part of six months. I mean even disney's Luke job at the end of Mandalorian S02 was more convincing than that and that's currently getting slagged off left right and center by pretty much anyone who charges money for the same vfx pass and a bunch of the hobbyists to boot.

I can just picture the scene - the old guy in the bad suit is currently off his tits on 21st century quaalude and lying in a puddle of his own drool, in the oval office, pants round his ankles, gibbering incoherently about turtle power and "Shredder wouldn't stand for this shit". Meanwhile the guys in charge of keeping this trainwreck profitable and their own heads off the chopping block know that it's not really feasible, right this minute, even for an arch villain character like Cartman, not to make some kind of rambling statement along the lines of "Not all people with antlers on their heads are bad people" or whatever the fuck.

Tension is mounting amongst all the arses on a seat of power which is fast looking like more of an electric chair for anyone caught sitting on it. Suddenly some aide who's facebook posts for the last 6 months have been tiktok clips of her starring in everything from Titanic to Harry Met Sally pulls her iphone out and relives her favourite - plucky kid from the typing pool saves earth from the asteroid - moment from that movie where the plucky kid from the typing pool saved the earth from the asteroid. The same one that got her 20 likes from her pals on FB and a bunch of "You're so tech savvy, you're wasted as an assistant to one of the assistants to someone important in the Whitehouse." - type comments when she chopped her face over it.

And some fucking desperate high ranking communications official actually decided that was their best option right then and greenlit the fucker :lulz:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Galerson on January 30, 2021, 11:20:32 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 29, 2021, 06:28:17 AM
This thing with Reddit and Gamestop kind of seems to me to be a second major attack on "the establishment" by an angry mob in a matter of just a few weeks. I wonder when and where the next one will take place. I have a feeling it's going to be a continuing theme this year.

Mess with Gamestock stock, and you'll win the presidential election!

Please let me know the next stock that's going through the roof so I can buy it now!  :fnord:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: rong on January 31, 2021, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: Bruno on January 29, 2021, 06:28:17 AM
I bet even that brood of cicadas due to emerge in a few months will be, like, super aggressive. Maul some raccoons and shit, or whatever eats cicadas, I dunno.

MURDER HORNETS CICADAS!!!!
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on January 31, 2021, 02:51:42 AM
Quote from: rong on January 31, 2021, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: Bruno on January 29, 2021, 06:28:17 AM
I bet even that brood of cicadas due to emerge in a few months will be, like, super aggressive. Maul some raccoons and shit, or whatever eats cicadas, I dunno.

MURDER HORNETS CICADAS!!!!

Here's an idea:

Make a recording of the cicadas.
Run it through a talk box.
Have "the swarm" deliver demands, threats, and/or prophecy.
Play it back through really big speakers.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on February 01, 2021, 02:03:18 PM
Get me a decent recording, and I'll do what I can
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on February 01, 2021, 05:46:26 PM
I'll look around and see what I can find. Most of the recordings sound like a cross between a tire with a bad leak and the dialup noise.

I'm thinking any complex message is going to be unintelligible. Might work best if it just repeats a single word.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on February 01, 2021, 06:06:49 PM
Just need to source tone, we can play around with it from there
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on February 01, 2021, 06:22:36 PM
This one seems to be better than most.

https://www.cicadamania.com/cicadas/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/T-resonans-calling-Joe-Green.mp3

Also, I've started a thread in OMF since this is really just super off topic and has no relation to the capitol building being raided by dollar store knockoff Nazis.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2021, 01:34:42 AM
Marjorie Greene just got tossed off of her committees and did the best blubber since Big Ed Muskie.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: altered on February 05, 2021, 01:39:33 AM
 :lulz: Oh gooodie. I've been /waiting/ for this one.
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on February 05, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
Didn't she also get, like, a standing ovation for apologising though and saying she was sorry she believed in crazy stuff (that she nevertheless will not disavow)?
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on February 05, 2021, 12:55:29 PM
From what I recall, she didn't really apologize, and then tried to blame Facebook for showing her the Qanon information
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cain on February 05, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
The party of personal responsibility!
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: LMNO on February 05, 2021, 02:28:50 PM
And now the GOP is going after AOC over her instagram vid where she described what happened to her.

https://www.vox.com/2021/2/4/22266869/nancy-mace-aoc-insurrection-hallways

And McCarthy, boy wonder, went from decrying Qanon in the GOP to now saying he doesn't even know what a Qanon is, even though he's been speaking about it for months.

https://www.vox.com/2021/2/4/22266193/kevin-mccarthy-qanon-marjorie-taylor-greene
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2021, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 05, 2021, 12:55:29 PM
From what I recall, she didn't really apologize, and then tried to blame Facebook for showing her the Qanon information
"I was allowed to be shown false information."

:lulz:
Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Cramulus on February 05, 2021, 06:55:50 PM
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Title: Re: Boogs storm the capitol building
Post by: Bruno on February 13, 2021, 09:18:06 PM
McConnell during the vote: "Not Guilty"

McConnell after the vote: "He's totally guilty"