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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: The Wizard Joseph on October 19, 2016, 11:55:06 PM

Title: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on October 19, 2016, 11:55:06 PM
https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol (https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol)

Your car will one day produce your drink from the exhaust and drive FOR you just about anywhere you please. WOW! Maybe this could even make "carbon capture" technology not just a viable expense, but a means to retain a valuable by-product. This is a Game Changer.
Title: Re: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2016, 01:27:18 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 19, 2016, 11:55:06 PM
https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol (https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol)

Your car will one day produce your drink from the exhaust and drive FOR you just about anywhere you please. WOW! Maybe this could even make "carbon capture" technology not just a viable expense, but a means to retain a valuable by-product. This is a Game Changer.

Don't get too excited just yet.  For every actual game-changer, there's an Alcubierre Drive.
Title: Re: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on October 20, 2016, 04:49:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2016, 01:27:18 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 19, 2016, 11:55:06 PM
https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol (https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol)

Your car will one day produce your drink from the exhaust and drive FOR you just about anywhere you please. WOW! Maybe this could even make "carbon capture" technology not just a viable expense, but a means to retain a valuable by-product. This is a Game Changer.

Don't get too excited just yet.  For every actual game-changer, there's an Alcubierre Drive.

Is that in Tucson?  :?

I get giddy man. The tech must flow. Why they be stopping the flow Roger?

I'm getting all upset!  :argh!: We have the TECH!
Title: Re: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 21, 2016, 12:21:53 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 20, 2016, 04:49:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2016, 01:27:18 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 19, 2016, 11:55:06 PM
https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol (https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol)

Your car will one day produce your drink from the exhaust and drive FOR you just about anywhere you please. WOW! Maybe this could even make "carbon capture" technology not just a viable expense, but a means to retain a valuable by-product. This is a Game Changer.

Don't get too excited just yet.  For every actual game-changer, there's an Alcubierre Drive.

Is that in Tucson?  :?

I get giddy man. The tech must flow. Why they be stopping the flow Roger?

I'm getting all upset!  :argh!: We have the TECH!

we used it to make smart watches.
Title: Re: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on October 21, 2016, 04:38:34 AM
Market forces are the worst forces. Most things just perturb mass and energy, but the marketers and financiers manipulate the possible configurations. That is to say human passions, the very least scientific of the things on the planet. It's a superstition engine, no better than an "alchemy" scam in any way but sophistication, upon which the rest of the science was widely founded.

That was all well and good at first, I think. Everyone else doing Science was still mired in various superstition for a long, long time. As those stripped away, and as The Enlightenment got under way in earnest we discovered nothing but HORRORS under the superstition that had been so well accepted. Shit got hard to sell to "the masses" as a good thing, True or not, and the Opposition happy to capitalize, as ever they have. It seems to me somewhere along the line Science conceded to a very reasonable, but still ultimately irrational, sort of "pragmatism" about dissemination of the truth. Certain myths became acceptable, and today that's most evident in the way we economy because those myths have barely changed while most other fields have had to take their medicine, and like it!
Title: Re: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 19, 2016, 11:55:06 PM
https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol (https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol)

Your car will one day produce your drink from the exhaust and drive FOR you just about anywhere you please. WOW! Maybe this could even make "carbon capture" technology not just a viable expense, but a means to retain a valuable by-product. This is a Game Changer.

I don't think this has implications for powering vehicles; it's more about storing excess electrical energy.
Title: Re: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on October 22, 2016, 06:48:46 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 19, 2016, 11:55:06 PM
https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol (https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol)

Your car will one day produce your drink from the exhaust and drive FOR you just about anywhere you please. WOW! Maybe this could even make "carbon capture" technology not just a viable expense, but a means to retain a valuable by-product. This is a Game Changer.

I don't think this has implications for powering vehicles; it's more about storing excess electrical energy.

Yeah. I was just musing about the potential to turn the CO2 from exhaust into ethanol. Even with such a function, there's not much market for booze that tastes like copper, iron, and a nastier version of everclear.

Still the yield could be a remarkable fuel source many... less fanciful applications. I liked the idea of using photoelectric stations in a manner not unlike plant photosynthesis!
Title: Re: 63% electro-catalytic yield of Ethanol from CO2/H2O solution!!
Post by: minuspace on October 22, 2016, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 21, 2016, 04:38:34 AM
Market forces are the worst forces. Most things just perturb mass and energy, but the marketers and financiers manipulate the possible configurations. That is to say human passions, the very least scientific of the things on the planet. It's a superstition engine, no better than an "alchemy" scam in any way but sophistication, upon which the rest of the science was widely founded.

That was all well and good at first, I think. Everyone else doing Science was still mired in various superstition for a long, long time. As those stripped away, and as The Enlightenment got under way in earnest we discovered nothing but HORRORS under the superstition that had been so well accepted. Shit got hard to sell to "the masses" as a good thing, True or not, and the Opposition happy to capitalize, as ever they have. It seems to me somewhere along the line Science conceded to a very reasonable, but still ultimately irrational, sort of "pragmatism" about dissemination of the truth. Certain myths became acceptable, and today that's most evident in the way we economy because those myths have barely changed while most other fields have had to take their medicine, and like it!
:lulz:
Superstitious is to deny superstition.