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Title: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: NotPublished on August 10, 2010, 02:00:21 PM
Ok so I had this thought which is causing me distress now.

If I died and had my organs donated, and I came back to life; am I legally entitled to have my organs back?

You'd think they have a policy for this but they don't ...
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Cain on August 10, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
I'm pretty sure if you came back to life after your organs were removed, it would only be a very temporary state of affairs.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Lies on August 10, 2010, 02:06:22 PM
If you died and came back to life, you'd either be hailed as the messiah or you'd be a zombie and have your head blasted off with a 12 gauge.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: NotPublished on August 10, 2010, 02:08:37 PM
Well if I were a zombie I would like to be aware of my legal options
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nawaxo on August 10, 2010, 02:22:40 PM
Zombies are accepted only in a few countries and most of them are Haiti.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Triple Zero on August 10, 2010, 02:23:28 PM
I'd say, no. The other person(s) who has one of them now probably needs it to be alive, while you somehow manage to be miraculously alive without them.

Unless it's your eyes, that'd suck. You'd probably want those back then.

But I think you'd be out of luck, if you're a donor, your registration signs away the right to your organs after your death. I think if you want them back in the event of resurrection, you'd need an additional clause in your donor registration.

Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 10, 2010, 02:23:28 PM
I'd say, no. The other person(s) who has one of them now probably needs it to be alive, while you somehow manage to be miraculously alive without them.

Unless it's your eyes, that'd suck. You'd probably want those back then.

But I think you'd be out of luck, if you're a donor, your registration signs away the right to your organs after your death. I think if you want them back in the event of resurrection, you'd need an additional clause in your donor registration.



I would most definitely like to see that clause, and the look on the lawyer's face when he adds it!  :lulz:
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Triple Zero on August 10, 2010, 02:28:05 PM
You should DEMAND it, on religious grounds!
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:37:58 PM
I will, dammit!

Except I'm not an organ donor anyway....
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Richter on August 10, 2010, 02:42:17 PM
I agree with Cain on this.  "Donnating" doesn't exactly imply a return clause, so I think any doctor responsible for such a situation should have to furnish the repalcements to make the wrongly donated folks "Whole", as it were.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:44:24 PM
I think an easy way to deal with this is, if you strongly suspect you will be resurrecting, don't be a donor, or specify that only organs you don't need to live can be donated, just in case.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Cain on August 10, 2010, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: Richter on August 10, 2010, 02:42:17 PM
I agree with Cain on this.  "Donnating" doesn't exactly imply a return clause, so I think any doctor responsible for such a situation should have to furnish the repalcements to make the wrongly donated folks "Whole", as it were.


Actually I just pointed out if you came back to life missing several organs, you'd probably only live a few hours at best.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:44:24 PM
I think an easy way to deal with this is, if you strongly suspect you will be resurrecting, don't be a donor, or specify that only organs you don't need to live can be donated, just in case.

Donate appendix?
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
appendix, gall bladder, tonsils....
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:55:46 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
appendix, gall bladder, tonsils....

Gall bladder stays!
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Triple Zero on August 10, 2010, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:44:24 PM
I think an easy way to deal with this is, if you strongly suspect you will be resurrecting, don't be a donor, or specify that only organs you don't need to live can be donated, just in case.

Donate appendix?

I never heard of an appendix transplant, what do they use it for? :)
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 03:07:24 PM
but.... but...  :aww:
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 10, 2010, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:44:24 PM
I think an easy way to deal with this is, if you strongly suspect you will be resurrecting, don't be a donor, or specify that only organs you don't need to live can be donated, just in case.

Donate appendix?

I never heard of an appendix transplant, what do they use it for? :)

No idea, I just found the idea of donating non-vital organs funny for that reason. Like, why even go through the bother? Something like eyes ok, that's non vital, but generally the idea of donating a non-vital organ is ridiculously frivolous. I like it  :lulz:
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Richter on August 10, 2010, 03:12:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 10, 2010, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: Richter on August 10, 2010, 02:42:17 PM
I agree with Cain on this.  "Donnating" doesn't exactly imply a return clause, so I think any doctor responsible for such a situation should have to furnish the repalcements to make the wrongly donated folks "Whole", as it were.


Actually I just pointed out if you came back to life missing several organs, you'd probably only live a few hours at best.

That was the part I was agreeing with.  I also think that there should be a clause that Benny Hill music must be played when the offending Doctor finds out he's fucked.  
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 03:07:24 PM
but.... but...  :aww:

Don't give me the puppy dog eyes. My gall bladder ain't going anywhere!
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 03:22:40 PM
when I was thinking nonessential organs I was more thinking 1 kidney, 1 eye, part of a liver... perhaps some blood vessels or  :?
but it's funnier your way.

Also, damn it, you don't need that gall bladder!  :argh!:
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Kai on August 10, 2010, 03:38:21 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 03:22:40 PM
when I was thinking nonessential organs I was more thinking 1 kidney, 1 eye, part of a liver... perhaps some blood vessels or  :?
but it's funnier your way.

Also, damn it, you don't need that gall bladder!  :argh!:

I guess you must really like being fat and unable to process lipids then.

I'm sure my girlfriend would love to have her gall bladder back.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 05:05:43 PM
see! so your gf can benefit from this non-essential organ donation scheme! perfect!
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 05:05:43 PM
see! so your gf can benefit from this non-essential organ donation scheme! perfect!

She can get it from someone else. I'll need that shit when I rise from the grave.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 05:34:14 PM
what, are you expecting to process lipids and store bile while resurrected? i doubt you'll need to eat. besides, what if you get cremated, or they make your grave face the wrong direction? those things can have terrible effects on potential resurrection.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Adios on August 10, 2010, 05:34:52 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 05:34:14 PM
what, are you expecting to process lipids and store bile while resurrected? i doubt you'll need to eat. besides, what if you get cremated, or they make your grave face the wrong direction? those things can have terrible effects on potential resurrection.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: AFK on August 10, 2010, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 10, 2010, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:44:24 PM
I think an easy way to deal with this is, if you strongly suspect you will be resurrecting, don't be a donor, or specify that only organs you don't need to live can be donated, just in case.

Donate appendix?

I never heard of an appendix transplant, what do they use it for? :)

I think they use that for extra supporting tissues that are important, but they take up too much room to be in the main body, but they're there when you need to use them. 
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 05:34:14 PM
what, are you expecting to process lipids and store bile while resurrected? i doubt you'll need to eat. besides, what if you get cremated, or they make your grave face the wrong direction? those things can have terrible effects on potential resurrection.

Do you know how much fat a human body in America contains? Of course I'll need to process lipids when I return. I'm going to have to go through a lot of adipose tissue in my food before I get to the good stuff! No cremation, per my specific request. I'll also be put in a glass chamber standing up so I won't have to go through the trouble of pulling myself up.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 07:04:48 PM
how are you doing to get them to preserve your body? pretty much all the chemicals they use would kill things if they weren't already dead, making your tissues unfit for life... additionally, if you went for the vacuum pack preservation method in your glass chamber, how would you breathe when resurrected? if you don't need to breath, why would you need to eat?

So many things to work out before you can assure us that you'll need your gall bladder later!  :D
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 07:04:48 PM
how are you doing to get them to preserve your body? pretty much all the chemicals they use would kill things if they weren't already dead, making your tissues unfit for life... additionally, if you went for the vacuum pack preservation method in your glass chamber, how would you breathe when resurrected? if you don't need to breath, why would you need to eat?

So many things to work out before you can assure us that you'll need your gall bladder later!  :D

Are you questioning Jesus' magical powers?
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 07:19:53 PM
YES, YES I AM!! Jesus was just in a coma. He got better.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Reginald Ret on August 10, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
Information from an iffy source(IE i can't remember):
Your appendix is where your gut bacteria go to hide whenever you have a massive case of diahrea... dieareauise... diary... diaphragm...  THE SHITS.
It is why having the shits doesn't always kill you.
(i hear your intestines have several of these hiding places, so don't get your panties in a bunch over appendectomies(sp?))
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 07:19:53 PM
YES, YES I AM!! Jesus was just in a coma. He got better.

Right then, I'll get the auto-de-fe ready. HERETIC!!!! BURN THE HERETIC!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 11:01:57 PM
if i let you burn me can i have your gall bladder?

Akara:
Invulnerable to flames due to heretic status.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 11:26:40 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 11:01:57 PM
if i let you burn me can i have your gall bladder?

Akara:
Invulnerable to flames due to heretic status.

Please to see Dante's Inferno. Not invulnerable. Just not consumed. And no. I'm gunna break down those lipids dammit! Use your own gall bladder!
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 11:33:15 PM
i was planning on selling it to kai's GF!

some like it hot... I grew up in NM, hell can't be much worse.  :p
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 11:40:49 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 11:33:15 PM
i was planning on selling it to kai's GF!

some like it hot... I grew up in NM, hell can't be much worse.  :p

In the event of my untimely demise, I would be willing to give my gall bladder to Kai's gf for free, simply because he's feckin' cool. Sorry boss. No C-note for you.

I can top New Mexico:
Surface of Venus
Core of Jupiter
Betelgeuse

Oh yeah, NM is nothing.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 10, 2010, 11:47:14 PM
are you telling me you've been to those places... impressive!!

also, I thought you weren't getting rid of your gall bladder no matter what! cause of the resurrection thing!  :argh!:
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Iron Sulfide on August 10, 2010, 11:50:16 PM
i think they do this if you come back to life and want your organs back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl9Nvg4yuus
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: NotPublished on August 10, 2010, 11:53:28 PM
 :x :x :x
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 11, 2010, 12:06:14 AM
that just made me really want to watch that movie. it looks silly, but good.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Adios on August 11, 2010, 12:09:44 AM
On a serious states are beginning to make the donor box a legal contract in order to prevent interfering family from blocking the donors wishes.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Iron Sulfide on August 11, 2010, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: Akara on August 11, 2010, 12:06:14 AM
that just made me really want to watch that movie. it looks silly, but good.
Totally not worth your time. I forced myself to watch it. The acting is sub-campy, the music is pretentious as well as generic, and the pay-off is more of a facial on the audience. Which pisses me off, because that's a brilliant idea for a story.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Iron Sulfide on August 11, 2010, 12:11:50 AM
if you want "silly but good" watch this instead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctC-V50RLN8
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2010, 12:12:06 AM
Quote from: Iron Sulfide on August 11, 2010, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: Akara on August 11, 2010, 12:06:14 AM
that just made me really want to watch that movie. it looks silly, but good.
Totally not worth your time. I forced myself to watch it. The acting is sub-campy, the music is pretentious as well as generic, and the pay-off is more of a facial on the audience. Which pisses me off, because that's a brilliant idea for a story.

From the sound of it, they couldn't decide whether they wanted it to be a satire, or just a gross comedy.  And like you say, that is sad, because as satire material, it has real potential.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 11, 2010, 12:18:07 AM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 11:47:14 PM
are you telling me you've been to those places... impressive!!

also, I thought you weren't getting rid of your gall bladder no matter what! cause of the resurrection thing!  :argh!:

To part one:
:shiftyeyes: Totally. So kwitcherbichin.

To part two:
Kai's cool. Only exception. Otherwise, hands off.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 11, 2010, 12:31:32 AM
awwwww it's nice that you'd give up resurrection for kai. how special.

Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Requia ☣ on August 11, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Iron Sulfide on August 11, 2010, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: Akara on August 11, 2010, 12:06:14 AM
that just made me really want to watch that movie. it looks silly, but good.
Totally not worth your time. I forced myself to watch it. The acting is sub-campy, the music is pretentious as well as generic, and the pay-off is more of a facial on the audience. Which pisses me off, because that's a brilliant idea for a story.

I loved it.  And how is the music pretentious?
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 11, 2010, 04:19:19 AM
Quote from: Akara on August 11, 2010, 12:31:32 AM
awwwww it's nice that you'd give up resurrection for kai. how special.



Not giving up resurrection, just skinny resurrection.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Akara on August 11, 2010, 05:24:40 AM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: BabylonHoruv on August 11, 2010, 08:25:13 AM
Considering organ donor is a yes/no question, I am not sure just how they'd react to wishing to put stipulations on it.  I may ask them next time I am on if I can get them back if i am ressurected.  I don't drive, so it's just a state ID, if they choose to make it last forever getting it, well, not that big a deal.
Title: Re: Who legally owns the body parts!!!
Post by: Triple Zero on August 11, 2010, 11:08:32 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 10, 2010, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 10, 2010, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 10, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: Akara on August 10, 2010, 02:44:24 PM
I think an easy way to deal with this is, if you strongly suspect you will be resurrecting, don't be a donor, or specify that only organs you don't need to live can be donated, just in case.

Donate appendix?

I never heard of an appendix transplant, what do they use it for? :)

I think they use that for extra supporting tissues that are important, but they take up too much room to be in the main body, but they're there when you need to use them. 

I think we're on the same page here. Did you hear about the time they used an appendix transplant to give a guy a new index finger? It really fucked up his headings.