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Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2005, 09:23:51 PM
Blarg!
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: chaosgraves:agentoferis on January 06, 2005, 11:59:08 PM
You Know people can be morons sometime.

I knew a guy that was going to be tried for murder.

This guy was allowed the luxery of sleeping on my bedroom floor because i kind of liked him at the time. I just wanted to point out that i'm not perfect either.


So anyways he wound up asking a guy we knew for a ride home one night. he was living up Number Two canyon road. this guy gave him a ride, pretty nice of him really.

so what wound up happening is probably unclear but to the best of our (societies)knowlege and information skills this is what happened.

He had the guy pull over and smoked some Pot with the guy for giving him a ride home. Know this guy was also high on acid ( the perp not the victim) and so we don't really understand his motives but He     talked him outside the car. ( this guy never smoked before and so the cops figured that the only reason that they would find the residue of the plant in the vehicle was because thats where the Bowl was loaded... and the resin from the smoke was very minimal so it supported everyone saying that he didn't smoke)

they smoked some more on a couch abandoned in the field. after a while the guy that asked for a ride reached behind the couch and grabbed a bat ( it had been there for quite some time as it killed the plants that it had been placed on.) he took this sports equipment in his hands( now remember some people have the crazy idea that guns kill people and I feel that a gun is as responsible for death as this bat was.) and hit this guy that gave him a ride over the head... repeatedly.

the one thing that they are unclear on is when the victim was raped. before or after he was dead.

normally I wouldn't consider it rape after the person was dead... but I definetly doin this case. I don't know why but I do.


so after he was arrested  his lawyer called several of his freinds and asked if we would be character wittnesses.

it;s amazing all the things you remember about a person when you'r asked to be a character wittness.

I remembered him " accidentily" stabing a freind in the hand ( "I don't know why but I thought you were going to hit me").

I remember helping a freind with a black eye move because he hit her ( we thought he had changed because it was a few years later and he forgave us for beating the crap out of him later that month).


so i told his lawyer that I would love to be a character wittness... the lawyer dropped me after the first interview... he asked about 9 of us to be character wittnesses... he dropped each and every one of us.

this guy turned to his freinds, those that gave him a place to sleep and gave him food to eat, and he found that we knew him better than he wanted us to.

I know this is much different from what Roger posted about... but this is what was jogged from my mind.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Zurtok Khan on January 07, 2005, 06:37:17 AM
Quote"For forcible sodomy", I said, "and violations of the Mann Act."

That has got to be one of the funniest things you've ever said Rog.  I laughed for a good 15 minutes over that.

I agree.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: on January 07, 2005, 08:01:53 AM
I smile at the thought of this guy spending at least a week in county, and probably thinking about you the whole time.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: LMNO on January 07, 2005, 01:46:55 PM
As much as it seems like Jeb was, by all accounts, an asshole, I can't help but get a funny feeling that Roger, by laughing at his misery, only added to the collective weight of misery in the world.

But maybe that's just 'cuz I'm a pussy.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: DJRubberducky on January 07, 2005, 02:46:44 PM
*skritches the pussy behind its ears*
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: LMNO on January 07, 2005, 02:56:57 PM
::purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr::
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on January 07, 2005, 04:07:35 PM
Quote from: Saint Zurtok Ah.D.
Quote"For forcible sodomy", I said, "and violations of the Mann Act."

That has got to be one of the funniest things you've ever said Rog.  I laughed for a good 15 minutes over that.

I agree.

Now the kid is going to have to get out a dictionary to know what Rog said.  That is the funny part to me.  Then it will get funnier.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on January 07, 2005, 06:52:46 PM
Heh. "Race traitor" indeed. Now this tard may learn a thing or two about race relations and how to explain the right things to the right people during his stay at the Palace. I doubt it however.

Roger is right about these sorts of people. And THEY are in the majority in this country. Anyone who has spent any time outside of the big so-called liberal cities would know that. That's why many people were shocked when Bush actually won this past election. I wasn't shocked at all. I KNOW a thing or two about this country. And I have yelled my throat hoarse at the self-professed liberals and pseudo-compassionates who do not understand the society they are living in. (When I am actually willing to yell my throat hoarse is usually a good indication that I am either finding the whole thing funny, or I have yet to find where I misplaced my tazor.)

I laugh when people I know go off on little treks to the country, with all their silly hippyish or alternative-style clothing and neon colored hair, and then come back whining about how shitty they were treated. I laugh and say things like "You're fucking lucky that shitty treatment didn't include beatings, shootings, or any other usual things. Probably because there were too many of you together."

People, what DO you expect?
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on January 07, 2005, 07:28:45 PM
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
I laugh when people I know go off on little treks to the country, with all their silly hippyish or alternative-style clothing and neon colored hair, and then come back whining about how shitty they were treated. I laugh and say things like "You're fucking lucky that shitty treatment didn't include beatings, shootings, or any other usual things. Probably because there were too many of you together."

People, what DO you expect?

That's why I don't do weird things to my hair.  Unfortunately, coloring you hair green is like leading with your chin.  My uniform is jeans and Tshirts.  I drop my kid off at daycare, people see a married woman with her adorable child.  They don't see a subverisive freak.  They don't see a militant feminist.  Which means when I say things from a perspective other than the one I am presenting with my uniform, people sometimes listen.  They listen to the nice married mom.  They wouldn't listen to the militant or the freak.  

The fact that I am married, is like the funniest thing in the world to me.  I have got to hook my scanner up again so I can scan in my photos.  I was 5 weeks from giving birth.  Apparently there was some concern I would give birth at the Veteran's Memorial.  I think the Mayor could have handled it, but that have been a funny headline, on account of his name being Smiley and everything.  

You want to know why I got married?  I saw an episode of Dharma and Greg, no seriously.  It's the one where it comes out that her parents never married.  I never wanted my son to wonder if I loved his father enough to marry him.  I never want him to wonder if we will both be there for him.  Although I don't care if homosexuals get married or not, I don't not see why they are picking this fight.  They could have picked a better fight.  This will end up costing them a lot of the things they have managed to get so far.  Marriage is one of the silliest things humans ever came up with.  I don't mean monogamous relationships, that works for a lot of us for various reasons.  But marriage as a legal concpet is just ridiculously funny.  It does not do any of the things it was ever intended to do.  But this started out as Rog's rant, so I'll stop here.  For now...but I'll be back.... :twisted:
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 07, 2005, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: eldora_avalon
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
I laugh when people I know go off on little treks to the country, with all their silly hippyish or alternative-style clothing and neon colored hair, and then come back whining about how shitty they were treated. I laugh and say things like "You're fucking lucky that shitty treatment didn't include beatings, shootings, or any other usual things. Probably because there were too many of you together."

People, what DO you expect?

That's why I don't do weird things to my hair.  Unfortunately, coloring you hair green is like leading with your chin.  My uniform is jeans and Tshirts.  I drop my kid off at daycare, people see a married woman with her adorable child.  They don't see a subverisive freak.  They don't see a militant feminist.  Which means when I say things from a perspective other than the one I am presenting with my uniform, people sometimes listen.  They listen to the nice married mom.  They wouldn't listen to the militant or the freak.  


RAH!

I have been preaching this for years.

Keep your weirdness on the inside.  This way, your lawful prey will not see you coming.

And, yeah, they listen to you, too.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Horab Fibslager on January 08, 2005, 03:47:02 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: eldora_avalon
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
I laugh when people I know go off on little treks to the country, with all their silly hippyish or alternative-style clothing and neon colored hair, and then come back whining about how shitty they were treated. I laugh and say things like "You're fucking lucky that shitty treatment didn't include beatings, shootings, or any other usual things. Probably because there were too many of you together."

People, what DO you expect?

That's why I don't do weird things to my hair.  Unfortunately, coloring you hair green is like leading with your chin.  My uniform is jeans and Tshirts.  I drop my kid off at daycare, people see a married woman with her adorable child.  They don't see a subverisive freak.  They don't see a militant feminist.  Which means when I say things from a perspective other than the one I am presenting with my uniform, people sometimes listen.  They listen to the nice married mom.  They wouldn't listen to the militant or the freak.  


RAH!

I have been preaching this for years.

Keep your weirdness on the inside.  This way, your lawful prey will not see you coming.

And, yeah, they listen to you, too.

there is no need to advertise
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 08, 2005, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: horab fibslager
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: eldora_avalon
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
I laugh when people I know go off on little treks to the country, with all their silly hippyish or alternative-style clothing and neon colored hair, and then come back whining about how shitty they were treated. I laugh and say things like "You're fucking lucky that shitty treatment didn't include beatings, shootings, or any other usual things. Probably because there were too many of you together."

People, what DO you expect?

That's why I don't do weird things to my hair.  Unfortunately, coloring you hair green is like leading with your chin.  My uniform is jeans and Tshirts.  I drop my kid off at daycare, people see a married woman with her adorable child.  They don't see a subverisive freak.  They don't see a militant feminist.  Which means when I say things from a perspective other than the one I am presenting with my uniform, people sometimes listen.  They listen to the nice married mom.  They wouldn't listen to the militant or the freak.  


RAH!

I have been preaching this for years.

Keep your weirdness on the inside.  This way, your lawful prey will not see you coming.

And, yeah, they listen to you, too.

there is no need to advertise

More to the point, you do not owe your natural enemies advanced warning.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Horab Fibslager on January 08, 2005, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: horab fibslager
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: eldora_avalon
Quote from: Irreverend Hugh, KSC
I laugh when people I know go off on little treks to the country, with all their silly hippyish or alternative-style clothing and neon colored hair, and then come back whining about how shitty they were treated. I laugh and say things like "You're fucking lucky that shitty treatment didn't include beatings, shootings, or any other usual things. Probably because there were too many of you together."

People, what DO you expect?

That's why I don't do weird things to my hair.  Unfortunately, coloring you hair green is like leading with your chin.  My uniform is jeans and Tshirts.  I drop my kid off at daycare, people see a married woman with her adorable child.  They don't see a subverisive freak.  They don't see a militant feminist.  Which means when I say things from a perspective other than the one I am presenting with my uniform, people sometimes listen.  They listen to the nice married mom.  They wouldn't listen to the militant or the freak.  


RAH!

I have been preaching this for years.

Keep your weirdness on the inside.  This way, your lawful prey will not see you coming.

And, yeah, they listen to you, too.

there is no need to advertise

More to the point, you do not owe your natural enemies advanced warning.

indeed.

and mroe to the point have you ever tried to pick up chicks dressed as a walking fruitcake?

i haven't, but i'm sure it's alot like trying to fuck a keyhole with a crowbar.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Guido Finucci on January 09, 2005, 10:31:04 AM
Quote from: horab fibslagerthere is no need to advertise

... and thus, the lack of posturing on this board.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: on January 09, 2005, 10:35:16 AM
There is nothing wrong with "looking like a freak" unless you lament on either the trouble it causes you, or else embellish upon it to the point of it actually becoming irritating.

In some cases, and I'm thinking of the yakuza as I type this, it can be pretty fucking impressive.

Anyway, I find that "fitting into the system" is a useful survival mechanism... at least if you really have something to hide from... but in a way I think that attitude might be just a little bit cowardly as well. That isnt to say that I have any respect for the hot-topic demographic, I dont, I just dont think that I'd want fear of the status-quo to dominate any aspect of my life.

I know this topic of discussion often leads to the "anti-conformity is a type of conformity" argument, which I agree with. Real individuality is something that exists independent of how one portrays themselves to the rest of the world, and that may or may not be something that changes depending on attitude.

Still, of any of us were really trying to hide, would we be discussing things openly on the internet? That puts us at risk just a little bit more than having an ugly haircut.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 09, 2005, 02:56:05 PM
Quote from: Z¬?
Still, of any of us were really trying to hide, would we be discussing things openly on the internet? That puts us at risk just a little bit more than having an ugly haircut.

Risk?  The reason I say to keep it on the inside is that it makes it easier to jake, and easier to get away with it.

Look like Joe Normal, and let the visible freaks take the blame.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 09, 2005, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Z¬?
Still, of any of us were really trying to hide, would we be discussing things openly on the internet? That puts us at risk just a little bit more than having an ugly haircut.

speaking of that, as of my joining this board/spewing post-election hatred for all to see, the TSA has determined that I am now on the "yellow" list, and am subject to inch-by-inch scrutiny anytime I go through an airport security checkpoint for the rest of my life.

Quote from: faceless TSA screenerSay hello to Mr. Jellyfinger!

8)
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 09, 2005, 03:42:14 PM
Quote from: That Communist Bastard
Quote from: Z¬?
Still, of any of us were really trying to hide, would we be discussing things openly on the internet? That puts us at risk just a little bit more than having an ugly haircut.

speaking of that, as of my joining this board/spewing post-election hatred for all to see, the TSA has determined that I am now on the "yellow" list, and am subject to inch-by-inch scrutiny anytime I go through an airport security checkpoint for the rest of my life.

Quote from: faceless TSA screenerSay hello to Mr. Jellyfinger!

8)

That'll teach you.  I, for one, am glad to see that the government is finally putting the arm on degenerates like you.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 09, 2005, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
That'll teach you.  I, for one, am glad to see that the government is finally putting the arm in degenerates like you.

I told you, they didn't go quite that far...

8)
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on January 09, 2005, 07:28:46 PM
I never said there was anything "wrong" with looking like a freak, but there are consequences.  I would not dye my hair purple, but I would paint my nails purple.  I do not look like Molly Homemaker and I get a lot of my tshirts, boots, nail polish, bras and underwear from Hot Topic.  

Quote from: tshirtPeople like you are the reason people like me need medication
This one gets a lot of attention from other people that look quite normal.  I always make a point of telling them if they get it, the slogan does not apply to them.  

Quote from: tshirtYou laugh because I'm different, I laugh because you're all the same.
This is one I got for myself and my niece.  My sister did such a good job of raising her that she does not understand her now.

I like to be comfortable, that is why I wear jeans and tshirts, it is a comfortable uniform.  Plus, I don't have to dress up for work, so I have very little in the way of dress clothes.  I think part of the trick is to be able to fit in many environments, not just your particular comfort zone.  I can fit in with working class people in general, bikers in particular, intellectuals, snotty business people, parents in general, moms in particular, computer geeks, hippies, stoners, 12 step people, professors, and probably more, but that is enough to make my point.  I have also found, when I was working as a bartender that "suits" are more obnoxious when they get drunk than bikers are.

I don't think of myself as cowardly, althought I might be.  If I am hiding, I am hiding in plain site.  You can say a lot of things to people and get them to accept them by doing it that way.  One topic that has been discussed ad nauseum is the whole pagan symbols in Xmas.  If you tell Xian that the Xmas tree is pagan, you will have a fight.  If you tell them it is an old symbol that predates christianity, they are more likely to listen.  Ask yourself, do you want to inform or start a fight.  Personally I like to freak people out sometimes, but make them go HUH?!? a lot.  If I look like something out of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, they will not take me seriously ever, so I will never make a point.  

I currently work with a very Christian young woman.  An actual Christian, who believes in tolerance and love for her fellow man and all that.  I can be pretty honest with her and have taught her a lot.  Over on Scorch's board someone told me I would spend an eternity in hell.  I told her about this and she laughed and asked me what I had done.  I said it wasn't so much that I explained the story of Lilith, it was the way I put it.  Saying that Lilith was my hero for telling Adam and god to go fuck themselves was what put them over the edge.  She laughed.  She was also pissed that someone else would take it upon themselves to tell me I was going to hell, that that was for god to decide.  I told her the story of Lilith a long time ago.  She and I have had a lot of talks about the bible.  We have talked about how the OT is the basis of xianity, judaism and islam.  I had to convince her, we had to look things up on the internet.  And more than once I had to walk away because I was about to laugh at her fury.  She was much more closed minded when I first met her.  These are the kinds of people I can reach by looking normal enough to fit.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: EraPassing on January 09, 2005, 08:47:40 PM
Hm.
I own one pair of jeans, one pair of tennis shoes, and both of these are meant more for working in the yard or doing something that I don't want to ruin my good clothes for, than for actually being seen in public.  I'm a terribly elitest sartorial snob.  In public, I wear suits, blazers, blouses, pants, skirts, pretty shoes.   My clothing is also predominantly black, with a little red tossed in, and my jewelry is often "inappropriately" bold.  That's what's comfortable, to me.
I don't look like a professional, I don't look Goth, I don't look like any one group at all.  I have my own style - I don't look like a "freak," but I don't really look like anyone else, either.  Call my style "Eddie Bauer meets Hot Topic" and that's close enough.  And because I'm perfectly comfortable in what I'm wearing, the suits will notice, but not dare to protest, that the figures carved in my ring are actually having sex, and the Goths or the hiphop crowd isn't protesting that my clothing is more appropriate to the business office.
Whatever group I happen to be in will look at me, and most likely react in a manner that says, "OK, she doesn't look like us, but she's cool, anyway."  
If I dyed my hair purple, I would fit in.
If I wore beige and no jewelry, I would fit in.
I fit in because I don't allow anyone to tell me that I don't fit in.
The only times I do not fit in is when I do not wish to be there.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: on January 09, 2005, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Z¬?
Still, of any of us were really trying to hide, would we be discussing things openly on the internet? That puts us at risk just a little bit more than having an ugly haircut.

Risk?  The reason I say to keep it on the inside is that it makes it easier to jake, and easier to get away with it.

Look like Joe Normal, and let the visible freaks take the blame.

Point taken, there is value to camoflage.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Uncle Spam on January 09, 2005, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: Z¬?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Z¬?
Still, of any of us were really trying to hide, would we be discussing things openly on the internet? That puts us at risk just a little bit more than having an ugly haircut.

Risk?  The reason I say to keep it on the inside is that it makes it easier to jake, and easier to get away with it.

Look like Joe Normal, and let the visible freaks take the blame.

Point taken, there is value to camoflage.

Damn straight.  A freak murders another man and gets life in prison.  A soldier slaughters a town and gets a medal.
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Yalkara on January 10, 2005, 02:08:58 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Z¬?
Still, of any of us were really trying to hide, would we be discussing things openly on the internet? That puts us at risk just a little bit more than having an ugly haircut.

Risk?  The reason I say to keep it on the inside is that it makes it easier to jake, and easier to get away with it.

Look like Joe Normal, and let the visible freaks take the blame.

HA! I could teach a few of you ameteurs a thing or two about invisibility. Thanks to my father's heritage I look more continental european than anything else, and this helps immensely when you're always travelling everywhere. Maybe it's the whole 'whore on terror' thing but for some reason the people in Casablanca are more friendly when you speak italian rather than english slowly and loudly at the top of your lungs. I don't have a home anywhere and when you're prancing around with a notebook and a camera people tend to think you're a reporter, I've actually managed to get into all sorts of official functions all over the place based on this.

The sad thing is, when I go home sometimes (like recently at christmas) I was down the street with some old friends and some skinhead saucepan comes over and tells me to go crawl back under the sand, or similar to it. Now, aside from the fact I was in a bar, with a bunch of other women, drinking, no men in sight, I thought it was pretty obvious I was from where I was from. But looking down at my tinted skin and the tan I'd somehow managed to keep in russia (only $30 a bottle) and I put on my thickest accent and said to him: 'ere, it's just around the corner, wot, dya wanna shag?
It's so nice to see a skinny kid with a shaven head turn bright red,
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on January 13, 2005, 06:54:05 AM
Fucking skinheads!

skinheads=tazor targets
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: EraPassing on January 15, 2005, 12:40:58 AM
*pounces on Rog and chomps on his head*
Title: Rev Roger: Hard Times in Fat City, part 3
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on January 28, 2005, 09:57:43 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
That'll teach you.  I, for one, am glad to see that the government is finally putting the arm on degenerates like you.

I agree. It makes my job so much more easier.