I would like to edit Intermittens #7, and make it about Operation Mindfuck. I know a lot of you don't know me, so here's a little about myself and my ideas for this issue.
About Me:
I'm not another Greg Hill or Kerry Thornley. But I have edited several issues of a bulletin, assisted a professor doing research at a university, and published a couple of articles.
I've known about Eris Discordia for several years, and posted a little jake here. LMNO wanted a story for a coworker who liked Boston teams, so I wrote an "AP" article about a Sink game and posted it at http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19299.msg643972#msg643972 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19299.msg643972#msg643972). By the way, the Floating Hospital-Children in Boston is real, which made it the perfect Boston location for a game of Sink. You might think my article sucks, but anyway LMNO liked it.
So much for my mediocre credentials.
About The Issue:
I want to really open up submissions from both inside and outside PD.com, so want help notifying a lot of Discordian cabals. That can broaden the magazine, increase readership, and avoid burnout for those who've already posted in several issues.
I want to have something about the origin of Operation Mindfuck/Project Jake/etc., and even something about pre-Discordian forms of it. And obviously I want new OMs (both ones people have used and ones that are just waiting to be used), and of course OMGASM stuff. Bits about the different types of OMs (Postergasm, Bookgasm, etc.) would be great, maybe even an Operation Mindfuck Dictionary. And photos of OMs would be wonderful (I saw some for Postergasm and EggGASM/Erister Egg Hunt I'd love to use). Maybe even an interview with a major OMer.
I don't see this as being an all-fun-stuff issue, so would like something on the point of OMs. Is it important to shake up people's perceptions, to fuck with their minds, and is it even possible in today's Western world where we're bombarded with everything? And what's happening in the East with OM (I don't know if anyone here would have anything on that, but something about Eastern OMs would be great).
I'd also like short bits, quotes (ones that already exist or ones you just made up), jokes, riddles, games, puzzles, silly stuff, even if it doesn't strictly fit the theme. Lots of cool filler material. And definitely fake ads--seems a natural for an OM issue, especially if the ads seem like they could be real. And letters to the editor about Issue #5 and/or #6 (including real letters) and letters about issue #4 (fake letters about the fake issue).
So what do you spags think?
EDIT: I'm doing it. You can submit in this thread if you want. If you want to submit somewhere else, see other places you can submit at http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=User:Sheered Völva (http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=User:Sheered%20V%C3%B6lva)
EDIT: You can submit directly to isubmit@ymail.com. I'll be discontinuing the email address after the issue is done, so don't care if it's posted.
I think that's a great concept for an issue.
Sounds excellent. If I come across anything relevant I'll toss it in here
i wouldn't mid typing up a few, erm, "exposés" of some really easy, but highly effective magic tricks, a la Derren Brown. (He's such a badass.)
they're good especially for practicing persuasion techniques, as they illustrate quite well how the art of suggestion is taylored and utilized. (By the by, if anyone has any good material on cold reading, please to PM.)
Omulus: I could really use your help--you probably know most of the places I could get Omgasms!
P3nT4gR4m: I look forward to what you find!
Philly Fillet: Great! I seem to recall a Penn and Teller magic trick that's easy to do and that only works because of people's preconceived ideas.
Anybody: Share your sources here! And please spread the word! Let's let every Discordian cabal know about Intermittens!
Slightly edited from original post. See Authorization for Self Altering PD.com posts Article IX Section A Subsection 648.6
I tried to join Black Iron Prison so I could add a note about Intermittens #7 at http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Intermittens (http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Intermittens). But it's not accepting any new members.
Is there a block to stop outsiders from joining?
Is there a way I can join?
Latest Update: I've got a photographer/photo artist who really wants to do the cover, so the cover's covered (cough).
I know a lot of Discordians aren't too picky about where they grab images, but I want to keep the issue to only original art (stuff you made yourself or have permission to use), or public domain stuff. I remember Disney once sued a preschool just because they had Mickey Mouse painted on their wall. And people have gotten sued for downloading a few songs off the Internet.
But there's a lot of open territory. Every image produced by the U. S. Government is public domain, and also by some U. S. states. If anyone knows a good source for art that's copyright free or that we can get permission to use, please post it here.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 05, 2009, 11:26:18 PM
I tried to join Black Iron Prison so I could add a note about Intermittens #7 at http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Intermittens (http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Intermittens). But it's not accepting any new members.
Is there a block to stop outsiders from joining?
Is there a way I can join?
The BIP Wiki isn't an "anyone can edit" wiki because some spag would just screw it up.
I can set you up with an account. Check your PMs.
I tried to make sure all imagery in Issue 01 art and layout was public domain before I included it. Check that thread, there's a ton of good links to clip-art, borders, fill-graphics, old lino-cuts, etc, etc.
Cramulus: Thanks. I joined and posted a bit about the issue there. I thought it might be good if there was a note there about how to apply to join. Right now it looks like you can just click and join, but you can't.
Telarus: Cudos for tip on links.
Here's one I've been considering reviving, recently. Maybe you can put it up as an ad in the back or something.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=16082.msg513432#msg513432
Quote from: Risus on February 06, 2009, 07:07:40 PM
Here's one I've been considering reviving, recently. Maybe you can put it up as an ad in the back or something.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=16082.msg513432#msg513432
Cool. Looks like an easy and effective jake. With your permission, I may alter the text a bit (maybe a phone number that wouldn't cause us problems but would be amusing).
The only possible prob is the source of the photo. Cool pic, but I really want to avoid any copyright issues (yes, I'm paranoid). Do you know where the photo's from? If not, I found one that's been released I could use.
according to the image source, it's from http://www.allthepages.org/ -- you could probably head over there and e-mail the author for permission
Quote from: Cramulus on February 06, 2009, 08:45:43 PM
according to the image source, it's from http://www.allthepages.org/ -- you could probably head over there and e-mail the author for permission
Thanks I'll check it out.
I'm looking for all the parts of Operation Mindfuck (Omgasm, Erister Egg Hunt, Project Jake, etc.) and who started them and when. Please check http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19646.0 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19646.0)
i had a rekated idea that im not sure is a standalone or a good appendix for this issue
a collection of the best postergams and memebombs
The Republican-American on some Discordian internet groups (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/news/290229.txt_files/290229.htm)
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
:mittens: :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on February 11, 2009, 01:05:47 AM
The Republican-American on some Discordian internet groups (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/news/290229.txt_files/290229.htm)
:mittens: that was brilliant!
:lulz: :spittake: :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on February 11, 2009, 01:05:47 AM
The Republican-American on some Discordian internet groups (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/news/290229.txt_files/290229.htm)
Is this for real? I got to see if I can get permission to use it. Anybody know anyone involved in The Republican-American?
Quote from: NARF! on February 10, 2009, 08:58:27 AM
i had a rekated idea that im not sure is a standalone or a good appendix for this issue
a collection of the best postergams and memebombs
Our minds are on the same track! (Maybe that means we both need therapy).
Email me or post what you got! (Email at top of this thread).
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 11, 2009, 05:30:36 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 11, 2009, 01:05:47 AM
The Republican-American on some Discordian internet groups (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/news/290229.txt_files/290229.htm)
Is this for real? I got to see if I can get permission to use it. Anybody know anyone involved in The Republican-American?
It's a real web page, if that's what you're asking.
QuoteBut recently, Forrest's forum came under attack by internet trolls, hostile users attempting to decrease the signal-to-noise ratio of the internet. "I posted a picture of my son, Roy," she said, "and someone took the picture and added pterodactyls to it using MS Paint. The pterodactyls were eating my son!" Though the image was of exceptionally low quality, the graphic still disturbed her.
:spittake: :pax:
uh loki i was merely thinking of using the ones laying around here
Quote from: Philly Fillet on February 05, 2009, 08:11:31 PMi wouldn't mid typing up a few, erm, "exposés" of some really easy, but highly effective magic tricks, a la Derren Brown. (He's such a badass.)
they're good especially for practicing persuasion techniques, as they illustrate quite well how the art of suggestion is taylored and utilized. (By the by, if anyone has any good material on cold reading, please to PM.)
hell yeah, I was reading Derren Brown's book (linked somewhere here, or somewhere in Cain's old ebook-packs), and he explained this very simple coin-trick (not gonna explain it right now, but he explains the suggestions and misdirections behind its workings quite well). I practiced it twice while reading the book, tried it on my best friend the next day, and wow it worked! :) he did of course guess "you probably made it disappear by dropping it in your lap at some point", but he had to admit he couldnt see how I did it. I had to repeat the trick 3 or 4 times before he figured it out. Later, I showed it to my girlfriend, and afterwards had her perform the trick for
me, hell, even while knowing what was going on, it still could've fooled me. indeed, bad-ass.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 11, 2009, 01:05:47 AM
The Republican-American on some Discordian internet groups (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/news/290229.txt_files/290229.htm)
Critique: I'm not sure if "signal-to-noise ratio" would normally be used for an article like this, much less three separate times.
know what might be appropriate? since this is an OMF issue, some people might want to protect their identities. They could use an anagramic code name - like "Cramulus" could be "Muscular" for example.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 12, 2009, 03:20:14 PM
know what might be appropriate? since this is an OMF issue, some people might want to protect their identities. They could use an anagramic code name - like "Cramulus" could be "Muscular" for example.
Just how long have you been waiting for an excuse to use that?
Isn't the word "muscular" the Fnordian term for "big fake mustache?" Besides, I already referred to you earlier as Omulus. :D
But people are free to use whatever name they want--or will I regret saying that?
Advertisements. I mentioned earlier that I wanted fake ads. It didn't occur to me when I posted that people might want to put in real ads, especially for Discordian-related stuff.
I'm thinking people aren't going to want to pay real money for real ads in a magazine that, let's face it, is not likely to be seen across the world in dentist's offices. But what about putting in ads for free? They could be considered submissions just like anything else, and whoever's editing an issue could pick and choose what they felt would work for that issue.
What do you spags think?
Advertisement for Nigel's racists beads. NOW!!!
Quote from: Jason Wabash on February 12, 2009, 05:10:02 PM
Advertisement for Nigel's racists beads. NOW!!!
I'm a N00b here. These are?
beads built as a part of a elaborate troll, that got blown by a snitch, leaving Nigel with KKK swastika beads,that need a use, till the troll is put back together..
Would you be interested in a page or so of classifieds? I don't know if I could come up with a whole page on my own, but I bet with a bit of brainstorming here we could fill one up pretty fast.
WANTED: One realistic Richard Nixon mask, used OK, $20 or less please, email noxindrahcir@gmail.com
Quote from: Nigel on February 12, 2009, 06:44:18 PM
Would you be interested in a page or so of classifieds? I don't know if I could come up with a whole page on my own, but I bet with a bit of brainstorming here we could fill one up pretty fast.
WANTED: One realistic Richard Nixon mask, used OK, $20 or less please, email noxindrahcir@gmail.com
Yes! Classifed ads would be great. Anyone, feel free to post classified ads here.
I'll need a very clear definition of what you mean by classified ads, and don't copy paste or link, act like a grownup and use your words.
Regret,
Eurospag.
Quote from: Regret on March 05, 2009, 11:15:31 PM
I'll need a very clear definition of what you mean by classified ads, and don't copy paste or link, act like a grownup and use your words.
Regret,
Eurospag.
A definition from whom?
As the editor of whatever-number-this-issue-will-ultimately-have, I'll consider whatever whoever wants to submit. Can't use everything, but will check it out. :)
Fine, i'll use my own definition, stealing nigels format.
WANTED: One Secret police badge, preferably new, $2000 or less please, email janpeter.balkenende47@gmail.com
WANTED: Time. Preferably good quality, not previously used. Must be between 3 and 7 days.
Wanted: girl who fell to earth in space-pod.
Looking for guy with truck to help me pick up cute chicks on Sunday. Meet me at the feed store on 122nd; I'll be the one with the brooder.
(http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/817/batmancontestthumb.jpg) (http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmancontestthumb.jpg)
Cool stuff! Keep it coming!
In case anyone was wondering, yes, I'm still here, and yes, I still plan to do an Intermittens issue. I pretty much have everything I need, except for a couple things I'm still waiting for (if this means you, and you know who you are, please get them to me as soon as you can.)
The other thing I need, which I've been putting off, is learning how to use the Scribble program, or Scribus or whatever it's called. Triple Zero says 'READ THE MOTHERFUCKING TUTORIAL" before doing anything, which I hate doing. I prefer to jump in the water with both feet and hope I don't land on a crocodile. I like using programs, not learning how to use them. Sigh.
If anyone else is sinking like me, read the layout stuff at http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=20348.0. I guess to be a good Discordian editor I need to learn the rules. Double Sigh.
don't read the tutorial then
you need a written invitation to do what you want?
Quote from: Cramulus on May 13, 2009, 02:10:22 AM
don't read the tutorial then
you need a written invitation to do what you want?
Sure do. Of course I usually write my own. But this time, just to be different, I'm going to try following a more experienced person's advice.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on May 13, 2009, 01:40:25 AM
The other thing I need, which I've been putting off, is learning how to use the Scribble program, or Scribus or whatever it's called. Triple Zero says 'READ THE MOTHERFUCKING TUTORIAL" before doing anything, which I hate doing. I prefer to jump in the water with both feet and hope I don't land on a crocodile. I like using programs, not learning how to use them. Sigh.
If anyone else is sinking like me, read the layout stuff at http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=20348.0. I guess to be a good Discordian editor I need to learn the rules. Double Sigh.
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_confused.gif)
Intermittens #5 was made almost entirely by trial and error learning. I don't think I ever did more than glance at the manual once or twice.
> Triple Zero says 'READ THE MOTHERFUCKING TUTORIAL" before doing anything, which I hate doing.
disliking it on principle is quite arrogant. of course this is a for-fun project, so as Cram said, do whatever you like. at work I absolutely despise working with people that think they are above reading manuals, because they always end up asking me dumb questions and doing really basic things the really hard way because they never figure out the proper way to do it as explained in the manual, which all could have been prevented if they had taken the 10 minutes to step down from their autodidact hacker pedestal into the common lowly world of the n00b and read the fucking manual.
but that's in my work situation.
as I said, this is for fun, so if you get more joy out of plunging right in, go ahead and do so.
it was just some advice, the tutorial is quite short, and for me contained quite a few very useful things that I would not have figured out easily on my own
(which is IMO a design failure on Scribus' part, but intuitive user interfaces are just something that OS software doesnt seem to excel in).
Thanks for the advice.
Cainad: The problem is I haven't even gotten to the trial and error part. I'd already laid out some of the magazine in Print Shop which I then learned makes huge pdf files if you want quality. I don't know how to convert that to Scribus, so am starting all over from scratch. :x Once I loaded Scribus, the readme file told me I shouldn't have loaded it until after I loaded Ghostscript. It reminded me of the M*A*S*H episode where they were trying to defuse a bomb without knowing what they were doing. After they followed a step in the step-by-step directions, the manual said, "but first...."
Triple Zero: I didn't intend for it to sound like I'm above reading manuals. But when I try it, I tend to get confused, bored or both. Too many of them sound like they were originally written in Japanese by someone with three PhD's, and then translated into English by someone else writing at a fifth grade level. ("All your base are belong to us.") The tutorial, however, looks like it's well written and simple enough that even I can understand it. So for once I'm following the advice of someone more experienced. :)
I was originally going to have my issue come out in May 2009. But as Cramulus released a May issue, I'm holding it off. I think its good to give people time to focus on one collection of crap before we shove another one at them.
If P3nT4gR4m wants to release the Discordia in Theory and Practice before mine or after mine, either one is OK.
well it's June now!
P3nt has stated he's working at a very slow pace. I don't mean to speak for him, but I would be very surprised if he wanted you to hold off publishing until he finished. :p
I can't wait to read it, volva! I am expecting some very interesting mindfucks...
Quote from: Cramulus on June 01, 2009, 08:16:16 PM
well it's June now!
Ah, damn. Does this mean I have to admit I simply haven't finished it yet?
Quote
P3nt has stated he's working at a very slow pace. I don't mean to speak for him, but I would be very surprised if he wanted you to hold off publishing until he finished. :p
P3nT4gR4m just told me the same thing. Only he did speak for him.
Quote
I can't wait to read it, volva! I am expecting some very interesting mindfucks...
Yeah, I can't wait to read it either. Because that means I'll have finished it!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2009, 02:17:28 AM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on June 14, 2009, 01:03:56 AM
Okay. So what does [TITCM] mean?
Comes from an old FC bot that constantly said:
"Imagine, the shit flying off his cock, like a motorcycle stuck in the mud."
Then one day, TDB says, instead of "THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER", "THIS IS THE CORRECT MOTORCYCLE".
The rest is history.
Quote from: rubickspoop on June 19, 2009, 02:21:41 PM
I like to commit a random act of kindness (or on a bad day, meanness) every day
to keep from getting bogged down. [See] I get my adrenaline rushes from fucking with strangers.
I don't know if this goes along with your theme but I demand that the sentence "The relief you are now experiencing is made possible by a gift from Michael Zinman." appears somewhere in an upcoming issue of Intermittens.
http://underthebutton.com/2008/12/pissing-for-the-penn-fund
I did say I planned this issue for July, didn't I?
Yes, I know it's my fault I'm later than expected. I've never used Scribus (the brief tutorial covers a fraction of what I want to know and is for a much earlier version). And I'm spending a lot more time that I expected editing, finding photos that we won't get sued for using, convincing people to create new art and write new pieces for the issue, digging up great OM material that has never been published in print or online, trying to find to whom credit is due, filling in holes here and there, realizing that I have too much stuff for my issue and have to cut some really good stuff out, realizing I didn't leave enough space for something I just have to put in, etc.
But I am almost done. I'm still doing a lot of tweaking here and there, but have virtually all of it laid out. It should be done very soon. Goddess willing.
Quote from: Jason Ouabache on June 23, 2009, 11:56:10 PM
I don't know if this goes along with your theme but I demand that the sentence "The relief you are now experiencing is made possible by a gift from Michael Zinman." appears somewhere in an upcoming issue of Intermittens.
http://underthebutton.com/2008/12/pissing-for-the-penn-fund
Hey, some great filler and a mini OM. Look for it in the coming issue.
Better story and slightly better picture can be found here:
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2005/02/01/News/An.Ode.To.The.Commode-2149243.shtml
Quote from: Iason Gayle on June 27, 2009, 06:01:51 PM
Better story and slightly better picture can be found here:
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2005/02/01/News/An.Ode.To.The.Commode-2149243.shtml
We need to sign this guy up. Or maybe he's already one of us. Whoever us is.
I'd love to use one of the photos, but at this point trying to get rights to it would likely further delay getting my issue out, so likely won't. But I plan to use the dedication. Please feel free to spread "The relief you are now experiencing is made possible by a gift from Michael Zinman." everywhere.
The issue is almost done in Scribus. Now hopefully I'll be able to save it in PDF form and it will all work (I hope I hope I hope I hope).
But I could use help if someone wants to look over the issue in the next couple of days before I release it. Someone who's not afraid to say "this is confusing really totally," "don't you no how too spel," and "why does page 13 follow page 25?"
If you're interested, let me know in this thread or send me a message.
I don't know if I'd be much help but I can try! You can message me if you want.
Quote from: Miley Spears on July 03, 2009, 05:03:25 AM
I don't know if I'd be much help but I can try! You can message me if you want.
Miley,
I'd love to have your help! If anyone else wants to help out with checking my issue for errors (spelling, grammatical, facts, or just stupid stuff like wrong page numbers--whatever you want to check), let me know.
The only problem is I need help very soon, as I plan to post this issue in the next few days.
you called?
Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on July 03, 2009, 10:52:58 PM
you called?
Thanks! I should have a copy available for your perusal before the end of this weekend.
I'm really excited about this issue, well done putting the work in.
Quote from: Faust on July 04, 2009, 12:47:22 AM
I'm really excited about this issue, well done putting the work in.
Thanks. I had some fantastic contributors; I just threw it all together. I hope I did their work justice.
yeah, I really can't wait to see it!
Quite excited to see how you will execute this
I'm excited too. It's been awhile since an issue of Intermittens came out.
Just to keep things up to date, those who volunteered to point out my goofs have a working copy of the issue now. After they tell me all the stupid things I did (well, hopefully at least most of them), it will appear, Goddess willing.
It's only one issue of a fucking Discordian magazine, but I feel like I'm about to give birth to a baby.
Those who requested it should have gotten a copy of Intermittens 7 a few hours ago. Thanks for your help!
SHOULD :lulz:
Quote from: noise maker on July 04, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
SHOULD :lulz:
Hopefully by now you've seen the message I sent you, but just in case you haven't I'll talk about it here.
I clicked on your profile, and your email address is hidden. If you'll message me your email address, I'll be happy to send it your way!
nothin really jumps out at first read, i think its still :aaa:
pxs for the printed edition could the odd pages had an extra inch margin line on the left (even pages otherside)
choice of goverment poster was ok, i would have used that al-WUTa postergasm that got all the :mittens:
example poster they can photocopy > low pixal government propandga with a haiku rant
Quote from: Sheered Völva on July 04, 2009, 01:53:29 AM
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 13, 2009, 04:50:16 AM
Quote from: Cainad on February 13, 2009, 04:36:27 AM
There's a whole big internet out there. If we aren't interesting for you, something better is just a Google search away. To persist in interacting with a bunch of lowlife, illiterate, anti-intellectual morons like us is really just a waste of your time, and, frankly, an incredibly stupid one considering the bewildering array of options available to you. (Partial Quote)
Can I use this as a quote for Intermittens 7? I think this would be fun to use as "Advice to the Reader" or something. I don't intend to use it in context and won't mention who it's referring to, but think it could apply to anyone who doesn't like Intermittens, Discordians, etc.
Again, if the editor of Issue 5 (Hoopla/Bahweed/?????) wants to use it instead of it being in issue 7, go for it. As far as I'm concerned, you always have first choice of anything in this thread. This is your thread, after all.
I still love this quote, and really wanted to use it. But sadly, it never quite fit any of the holes I had to fill for my issue. It really deserves to be used, though.
quote would fit sideways somewhere im sure going from top to bottom page. Cyclopedia might work best and close up some of that white
noise maker: Thanks for your suggestions here and in my message box. I didn't expect so much feedback so quickly, and really appreciate it.
There will be extra space on the edge in the printed version--other than the cover page, all pages are designed a quarter inch less wide and tall than the paper (part if this is because you never know exactly how much the printer will cut off, regardless of what they tell you.)
When I was working on figuring the layout, I checked several professional magazines. Even the top circulation ones end up with more space on one side of the page than the other, and the amount of space isn't always consistent from one page to another. So if it's good enough for them....
As for the white space, a friend of mine who knows a lot more about layout than me said one of the most important things to remember is "DO NOT be afraid of white space." Said it gives the eye and the brain a little rest, and makes it easier to keep reading. Again, I noticed that professional magazines tend to have lots of white space.
I still love the quote, but it wasn't just a matter of finding space to stick it in, it was a matter of finding a place where it worked. But you may have given me an idea of a spot I could use it, so I'll try to see if I can still use it...thanks.
By the way, I think your sending me messages probably works best. Posting them here will make people wonder, "What the hell are you talking about?" Of course that can be fun, too.
THE WRONG VERSION WAS POSTED
Due to a communication mixup (my fault), a not-final version of issue 7 that was presented for review got posted. It's incomplete, and has several errors that have since been corrected. Please ignore it.
I just sent the "final" version to be posted, so it should be up soon. So in the meantime, have fun reading issues 1 to 6.
It was Eris, she likes to hit the "publish" button. I think it's because she keeps misreading it as Pubbish and hopes that if it gets clicked, we'll leave the computer and go drink.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 06, 2009, 10:37:52 PM
It was Eris, she likes to hit the "publish" button. I think it's because she keeps misreading it as Pubbish and hopes that if it gets clicked, we'll leave the computer and go drink.
And I thought she misread it as "pubic," hoping that if it got clicked, we'd leave the computer and....
THE RIGHT VERSION WAS POSTED
(thanks Ratatosk!)
At least I guess it is.
In any case, the version that had lots of mistakes we caught is down. Now you can see the version that has lots of mistakes we didn't catch! (Feel free to let me know of ones you find before we post the print version).
I was fortunate to have some great contributors, with most contents listed below.
Things that have never been published anywhere, even online, are marked with *
'Operation Mindfuck Cyclopedia' by various
*'Dear Rev. Charles Stanley' by
Kerry Thornley'More Exercises to Mindfuck Yourself' by various
'Rant For / Against OM' by
KunDa and
Bmearns'Mutton Chops' by
Nigel*'Shamlicht Kids Club' by
Captain 'Sesame Seed' Rogers and
Sister Hooter*'An Interview with original Erisian Richard Marshall' by
Pope Hilde'The Original H2O Jake' by
Terrorists For Truth'The Jake That Changed A World' by
Professor Mu-Chao and others
*'Con the Cons' collected by the editor
'I Wonder What She'd Say' by
RatatoskPlus classic and original artwork by several great people.
WARNING: In the tradition began by the first issue, some parts may be considered
NSFW.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on July 06, 2009, 11:00:16 PM
THE RIGHT VERSION WAS POSTED
At least I guess it is.
"Right" is such a subjective term....
Quote from: Cramulus on July 04, 2009, 02:34:48 AM
yeah, I really can't wait to see it!
Quite excited to see how you will execute this
me too :D
(downloading...)
Quote from: Sheered Völva on July 06, 2009, 01:56:29 AM
As for the white space, a friend of mine who knows a lot more about layout than me said one of the most important things to remember is "DO NOT be afraid of white space." Said it gives the eye and the brain a little rest, and makes it easier to keep reading. Again, I noticed that professional magazines tend to have lots of white space.
Quoted for Truth.
(this is not a remark about IM7 cause I havent read it yet, but)
Add to this advice a tiny bit of grid layout / designing with grids (google it), and IMO that's a huge step from amateur to pro.
anyone thinking grid layouts are too restrictive or rigid for their chaotic discordian minds, should give it a go anyway, even just once. cause the other rule (that I like a lot) is "you gotta know the rules, before you can break the rules" ;-)
happy layouting!
I just quickly scanned through it, will read it in more detail later, but: GREAT JOB :mittens:
SO much mittens
in fact,
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/forum/INTERMITTENSNOMINATION.png)
:mittens: Great job!
:mittens:
Uploaded to Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/17154992
Thanks for the mittens. Of course the vast majority of the credit goes to the contributors--I was very fortunate in being given some great stuff.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on July 07, 2009, 07:13:40 AM
Uploaded to Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/17154992
Thanks a lot for doing that, that's great.
I do have a question, though. I noticed that several of the fonts in headings were changed--it looks like it put everything in Courier, Times New Roman or Arial except for the fonts I saved as image files. I'm showing my ignorance here, but I thought once something was saved in pdf, it wouldn't change. Can anybody tell me how and why this happens? Thanks!
EDIT: Part of the same question, but where it changed the font in headings, it also changed the spacing between letters.
I loved helping but really I didn't do very much. But thanks for using my definitions!
Quote from: Miley Spears on July 07, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
I loved helping but really I didn't do very much. But thanks for using my definitions!
Thank you for writing them!
And sometimes it's help on the little things that you need most, because those are the things you're most likely to miss.
Holy fuck, I'm halfway through it and it's GREAT! It's really exciting to see materials I haven't read, submitted by people I don't know! Its really inspiring me to put out a call for submissions for my Discordian Parenting book, and have it be a group effort rather than trying to do it on my own.
ONE
MILLION
MITTENS
:mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens:
:mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens:
:mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens:
:mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens:
:mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens::mittens:
okay I can't actually fit that many in a post, have a few of the super technicolor mittens instead: (http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5774/mittens2xi0.gif) (http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5774/mittens2xi0.gif) (http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5774/mittens2xi0.gif)
Is wonderful. :mrgreen:
Quote from: Nigel on July 08, 2009, 03:33:36 AM
Holy fuck, I'm halfway through it and it's GREAT! It's really exciting to see materials I haven't read, submitted by people I don't know! Its really inspiring me to put out a call for submissions for my Discordian Parenting book, and have it be a group effort rather than trying to do it on my own.
In my opinion, Discordianism is half about thinking for yourself in a large group. You really should consider making it a group effort. I know I'd be willing to help (though I'm not a parent, but I was my sister's primary guardian).
As for the new issue: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens:
I'm pretty sure I didn't contribute to this in any significant way (maybe it's one of those chaos theory, butterfly flaps its wings sort of connections) despite the message I got telling me that something I submitted was used. I do have a tendency to forget most of the most profound, poetic, and/or funny things I say, so it is entirely possible. That being said, I'm going to proceed to read ever word and take credit for the part I like most.
Quote from: Nigel on July 08, 2009, 03:33:36 AM
Holy fuck, I'm halfway through it and it's GREAT! It's really exciting to see materials I haven't read, submitted by people I don't know! Its really inspiring me to put out a call for submissions for my Discordian Parenting book, and have it be a group effort rather than trying to do it on my own.
One of the best MFs in this issue is realizing halfway through Nigel's entry that most people won't know that 'Nigel' is technically female.
Of course, one would only know this if they had interacted with her before because the article DOESN'T MENTION IT AT ALL. :lulz:
Quote from: Sheered Völva on July 07, 2009, 11:12:10 PM
I do have a question, though. I noticed that several of the fonts in headings were changed--it looks like it put everything in Courier, Times New Roman or Arial except for the fonts I saved as image files. I'm showing my ignorance here, but I thought once something was saved in pdf, it wouldn't change. Can anybody tell me how and why this happens? Thanks!
EDIT: Part of the same question, but where it changed the font in headings, it also changed the spacing between letters.
I'm not
positive I have an answer, but here's what I think:
When you export the PDF, notice there's a Fonts tab? It could be that the fonts you chose are not actually embedded in the document. If you click Embed All and re-export it, there might be fonts?
Scribd gets a little bit weird with fonts (and transparency) sometimes. It's kind of erratic and I haven't figured it out yet.
I must say that whatever problems you experienced, the layout is fantastic.
:mittens:, just :mittens:.
I posted a link to this over on something awful in that thread "tell me about discordianism"
I'll accept the mittens on behalf of the people who made some great contributions and helped me tremendously. This issue would literally be nothing without them!
Honestly, I think you kicked it up to a new level of intermittens. You did a great job of incorporating a broader discordiana. Pope Hilde's interview kicked ass. And some new stuff from Kerry Thornley? That's Bad Ass Texas. It's a good read for both newcomers or long-time disciples. Most impressive.
bullshit does make the flowers grow
Quote from: Cetaphobia on July 08, 2009, 04:34:06 AM
Quote from: Nigel on July 08, 2009, 03:33:36 AM
Holy fuck, I'm halfway through it and it's GREAT! It's really exciting to see materials I haven't read, submitted by people I don't know! Its really inspiring me to put out a call for submissions for my Discordian Parenting book, and have it be a group effort rather than trying to do it on my own.
In my opinion, Discordianism is half about thinking for yourself in a large group. You really should consider making it a group effort. I know I'd be willing to help (though I'm not a parent, but I was my sister's primary guardian).
That absolutely counts as parenting! I'll start a thread.
Quote from: Telarus on July 08, 2009, 05:41:28 AM
Quote from: Nigel on July 08, 2009, 03:33:36 AM
Holy fuck, I'm halfway through it and it's GREAT! It's really exciting to see materials I haven't read, submitted by people I don't know! Its really inspiring me to put out a call for submissions for my Discordian Parenting book, and have it be a group effort rather than trying to do it on my own.
One of the best MFs in this issue is realizing halfway through Nigel's entry that most people won't know that 'Nigel' is technically female.
Of course, one would only know this if they had interacted with her before because the article DOESN'T MENTION IT AT ALL. :lulz:
:lulz: Hilariously, I never thought about that! That's great.
Quote from: Cramulus on July 08, 2009, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: Sheered Völva on July 07, 2009, 11:12:10 PM
I do have a question, though. I noticed that several of the fonts in headings were changed--it looks like it put everything in Courier, Times New Roman or Arial except for the fonts I saved as image files. I'm showing my ignorance here, but I thought once something was saved in pdf, it wouldn't change. Can anybody tell me how and why this happens? Thanks!
EDIT: Part of the same question, but where it changed the font in headings, it also changed the spacing between letters.
I'm not positive I have an answer, but here's what I think:
When you export the PDF, notice there's a Fonts tab? It could be that the fonts you chose are not actually embedded in the document. If you click Embed All and re-export it, there might be fonts?
Scribd gets a little bit weird with fonts (and transparency) sometimes. It's kind of erratic and I haven't figured it out yet.
No, I didn't try that, but will. Thanks!
Love the layout on this, SV. If it was printed out on glossy, it would look like a professional magazine. Just excellent.
Great job putting this all together. Excellent selections and kudos for tracking down permissions and whatnot.
Personally, I think your layout and typography is quite hideous but I can see past that and enjoy the quality content.
You clearly put a lot of work into the parts of this that matter most.
:mittens:
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on July 27, 2009, 06:24:17 AM
Great job putting this all together. Excellent selections and kudos for tracking down permissions and whatnot.
Personally, I think your layout and typography is quite hideous but I can see past that and enjoy the quality content.
You clearly put a lot of work into the parts of this that matter most.
:mittens:
Thanks for the first comment here on the issue after I was outed. And by the way, do you know which version you saw? One of them got the format changed and I still have to fix it. If you have specific advice for me on things you think could be improved with the layout, I'd love to hear them here or in a private message. There's always room for improvement! :)