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Or Kill Me / Re: Push the button already
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:25:06 am »
I mean, the basis of your rebuttal only has meaning within the context of a society that values our brand of technological progress and views that as the goal. Not all societies see it that way, and in fact the ones that don't tend to be more stable and much longer lasting. In the overall course of humans' existence on Earth, the trajectory of Western Civilization is more likely to be a statistical curiosity than an inevitable march toward galactic colonization or something.

Or Kill Me / Re: Push the button already
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:19:12 am »
Yeah, we have made lots of progress technologically, but what effect has that progress had on the average life? We can do things that our ancestors would see as magical, but is the average person in modern America more or less likely to see themselves as happy and fulfilled as the average pre-Columbian Native American? Or the average member of uncontacted tribe in the Amazon? My point isn't that we haven't made advances or that we don't have powers that we didn't always have, but that what we call "progress" is neither inevitable nor particularly helpful.

Or Kill Me / Re: Push the button already
« on: June 14, 2020, 11:22:19 pm »
Why did you post this here instead of scrawling it on tree bark with a pointy stone dipped in beetroot juice?
This forum is the current incarnation of that.

Or Kill Me / Push the button already
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:52:12 pm »
One of the most insidious and dangerous assumptions we have is the silly idea that human history has a direction. That in some meaningful way, life in the 21st century is fundamentally different (even "better") than life in, say, the 14th century, or the 21st century BCE for that matter. That human events follow a more or less predictable (at least in hindsight) trajectory from "primitive" to "advanced", and that it does this because of some sort of natural law that governs all kinds of progress.

This idea is pure bunk, and should be stamped out with extreme prejudice wherever you see it. It is the kernel at the center of the centrist's inaction in the face of injustice, the unfounded presupposition behind violent wars of "regime change" and "nation building", and the morally vacant justification for colonialist thinking. It is the reason we are taught that the evils of slavery and genocide are "in the past" while the forces that drive them simmer in communities around the world.

History has no arc. It is not a story about a protagonist species who learn and grow. It has never been guaranteed that tomorrow will be more just for you than today, or that the next century will bring more opportunity for your descendants than the last one had for your ancestors. This should be plain to see as we watch the entire allegedly "free" world slip farther every day into the same patterns of mistakes and collapse that have recurred time and again since anyone bothered to remember anything.

Even when disaster is averted, for all our apparent progress we have never actually made a difference in what it means to be human. Sure, we have the power to blow up the planet, the power to fling ourselves uselessly into orbit, the power to talk to each other across insurmountable distances. But so what if we can do all this, but give up the ability to feed our children, or the time to appreciate a sunset once in a while, or the courage to speak to our own neighbors? What have we gained, exactly, and why do we imagine that to be "progress"?

Apple Talk / Re: 2020 predictions
« on: June 05, 2020, 09:26:25 pm »
..... #LadyG

Aneristic Illusions / Re: So about these riots...
« on: June 04, 2020, 08:12:57 pm »
so real question... are the protests more or less bottled up and suppressed, or is there just general agreement in the media not to cover them anymore?

Aneristic Illusions / Re: So about these riots...
« on: June 04, 2020, 06:02:11 pm »
This has some of the ingredients for a nascent coup.  If congress and/or the senate act to curtail Trump, I expect things will fall apart quickly.

The same exact forces that allow destabilized developing nations to fall victim to coups instigated by outside (or inside) actors are at play here. Nothing about being the most advanced and most powerful rogue state with a precarious balance of power makes the balance any less precarious. If we didn't have 200+ years of inertia behind the current system we probably would have had 6 coups in the last 2 years. What really bugs me is that at this point I'd actually be perfectly fine with a coup, as long as it was carried out by our own military and not some mercenaries hired by whoever

Aneristic Illusions / Re: So about these riots...
« on: June 03, 2020, 12:32:25 pm »
Apparently Maryland has accepted Trump's offer of military help

Aneristic Illusions / Re: So about these riots...
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:10:41 pm »
well someone is leaving nice tidy pallets of bricks at these places far from any construction zones and I'm not prepared to believe that the officers who are out watching public spaces 24/7 are just going to let someone do that right before a protest without some kind of shady motive.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: So about these riots...
« on: June 02, 2020, 08:52:33 pm »
there's footage of cops, in full riot gear no less, protesting the murders by smashing cop cars floating around somewhere from this morning. or so i have heard, edit because i'm a sourceless bitch.

There's plenty of cops doing property damage, but they're not protesting shit. They're intentionally making a bad situation worse by instigating violence to give themselves and excuse to use excessive force. There's also footage of cops delivering pallets of bricks to planned protest sites to encourage protesters to throw them, for the same reason. Absolutely zero people wearing a badge (or hiding it under plain clothes) are your friends. There are no exceptions. All cops are shit-eating pigs who deserve everything bad in life.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: So about these riots...
« on: June 01, 2020, 02:03:39 am »
The protests are already well past the point where most protests (even widespread ones) get in the US, and there doesn't seem to be much sign of them slowing down. In fact tonight is the first night that I've heard constant sirens (it's only 9PM right now) and seen helicopters, so based on my admittedly limited and anecdotal evidence, it seems like the protests are spreading, not shrinking. It's also clear based on statements from law enforcement and government officials that state governments are just about at the limit of their patience. Problem is, if the protesters don't pack it up and go home on their own, and especially if the protests stay as intense as they are or get even moreso, there's really only one way to force the cat back into the bag (hint: it's a Schrodinger's kind of bag except without any mystery).

I am assuming that at some point in the next few days, law enforcement will actually succeed in stamping out most of the public demonstrations (jury's still out on just how bloody that will be but my money isn't on "not at all"). The real question after a widespread uprising like this is how governments will go about ensuring there are no recurrences. Given that the people the government actually listens to have already made it clear that they're not very keen on state-enforced measures to keep public activity to a minimum, I'd expect the emphasis to be on flagrant and more or less open racial profiling and over-policing of low-income areas.

What I don't know is how likely it is that such tactics will inspire more ... creative protests. I tend to think the level of anger and frustration out there is probably not going to drive a lot of people to just flat-out throw large masses of themselves at live rounds. But is there the will, the expertise, and the opportunity for a more underground and long-term insurgent type of movement? Are we looking at, effectively, a police state situation focused on minorities (I mean, even more than usual, which is already a lot), and are people getting to the point of organizing any kind of direct action against that?

Aneristic Illusions / Re: So about these riots...
« on: May 30, 2020, 01:40:18 pm »
I'm just glad almost all the protesters I've seen are wearing masks

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
« on: May 08, 2020, 12:18:54 am »
There's nothing I like about it either but the choices remain the same
  • Uprising and change the system - The logical and sane choice, therefore wont happen
  • Not just vote for Biden but promote Biden because as a lame duck he's not going to do it on his own, especially not when the only thing anyone hears about is the allegations
  • Resign to have already lost, remain morally intact, through another four years of Trump.

There is a fourth option nobody seems to even consider: organize and do the things you wish the government would do instead of waiting for Biden or whoever to climb down off their shitty poll numbers and lend a hand. The government is, after all, just a big fat organization of human beings. There's no natural law that says we're only allowed to have one.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
« on: May 08, 2020, 12:16:28 am »
OK I've been thinking about this, ever since Dimo's thread.
And its something I feel is morally grey and horrible, and if anyone dislikes it, they need to understand I feel the same way:

I don't think the grudging "I guess I have no choice but to vote biden" is going to work

When the perceived choice is:
The lefts old boring and perceived  lame duck
The rights golden boy and or Troll Entertainment Factory

Biden has a snowballs chance in hell of winning.

He is going to lose the election because his supporters have to do it in spite of dull, tired persona, the weird out of touch comments and of course, the rape allegations.
Those same allegations when levelled at Mr "Grab them by the pussy", inexplicably increase trumps support, not reduce it.

If Biden is going to win, if there is any chance at all, everyone who wants trump out is going to have to focus on whatever few positives he has going. I say this because the only active discussions I am seeing of him at the moment from either side, is on the sexual assault stuff.

It means putting that discussion aside (at least in wider quarters than here), it can wait until day one of his presidency, but it will have to wait or he will lose.

I understand if moral integrity don't allow for that. The preferable option would be to break the system that makes shit float to the top, but apathy and being literally unable to congregate makes that a pipe dream.

Or maybe that is exactly how the con wins: forced to silence complaints about the lesser of two evils.

The fact is that no matter what kind of clown faces we paint on, everyone is well aware that Joe Biden is the "at least he isn't Trump" candidate. If that isn't enough to carry him over the line, then it isn't going to matter how happy everybody pretends to be about him. He's already fighting the dynamic where Democrats do well when they feel like they're voting for something (as opposed to against something).

And while people who ought to be supporting Biden might damage his chances by shit talking him instead, I will always be amazed that it's the rank and file citizens who get the shit end of everybody's "goddammit be better" hate, and not the party bosses who put an asshole like Biden on the ballot in the first place. Why is it my responsibility to shut up and smile and do my duty, but it's never the Pelosi Wing's job to stop cramming horseshit down our throats?

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UNLIMITED 2020 THREAD
« on: May 07, 2020, 10:49:21 pm »
[It's incumbent upon each of us, to whatever degree we reasonably can, to take some kind of direct action and not simply throw up our hands and leave it at voting.

The next time that happens will be the first time since The Battle of Blair Mountain.

Which was 100 years ago.

Yeah. Which is why I am voting for Biden, and also why I'm not happy about it and reserve the right to say so.

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