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Discordian Recipes / East Coast Hustle:
« on: June 05, 2008, 04:10:19 am »
As a chef, what is your professional opinion of Gordon Ramsay?
News:
Already planning a hunger strike against the inhumane draconian right winger/neoliberal gun bans. Gun control is also one of the worst forms of torture. Without guns/weapons its like merely existing and not living.
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Principia Discussion / "Goddess" ... Just Sexist Bullshit?
« on: May 26, 2008, 01:38:08 pm »
On the weekend I used the common term "OH MY GOD", and a friend (somewhat new to Discordianism) jokingly asked if I had meant "OH MY GODDESS"... I told him no, mostly because I like to say "oh my god" the way I imagine Ignatius J. Reilly saying it, with plenty of emphasis on the "god"...
...but I would have said it the same way even if I WERE referring to Eris because I find the term "goddess" to be a sexist term.
Isn't "God" good enough for deities of both gender?
I have always personally loathed terms like "actress" or "commedienne", and "goddess" irks me just as much.
Any opinions?
BVH
-always here to wonder about the really really important shit
...but I would have said it the same way even if I WERE referring to Eris because I find the term "goddess" to be a sexist term.
Isn't "God" good enough for deities of both gender?
I have always personally loathed terms like "actress" or "commedienne", and "goddess" irks me just as much.
Any opinions?
BVH
-always here to wonder about the really really important shit
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Discordian Recipes / ECH:
« on: May 13, 2008, 02:04:10 am »
Is there a reasonable way to cook a steak in a frying pan or skillet?
BVH
-finally using this forum for something!
BVH
-finally using this forum for something!
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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Catching Up
« on: May 13, 2008, 02:02:04 am »
I haven't had a chance to sit down and read a lot of the more serious tuff lately, but am now ready . . . can anyone give me some advice on what some of the better threads are at the moment?
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Literate Chaotic / The Appendix of a Novel: Why?
« on: May 01, 2008, 07:40:25 pm »
Novels with appendices... are they necessary? If the material is truly important, it should be in the actual story, no?
Opinions?
Opinions?
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Apple Talk / Re: President Bush
« on: April 22, 2008, 12:38:44 pm »
WEEEEeeeeeeEEEEeeeEEEeEEEeeEeEeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEE
Another troll TROLLing PD.com!! - HOW WILL WE SURVIVE??!!??!
OMG!!
Another troll TROLLing PD.com!! - HOW WILL WE SURVIVE??!!??!
OMG!!
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Discordian Recipes / Is This Forum Necessary?
« on: April 11, 2008, 02:27:08 pm »
Really? Do people use it that often?
Why not a Movies Forum? Or a Shitting Forum?
Or a Breathing Forum?
Sleeping Forum anyone?
What about a Forum Forum? Or is that the Meta Forum?
Why not a Movies Forum? Or a Shitting Forum?
Or a Breathing Forum?
Sleeping Forum anyone?
What about a Forum Forum? Or is that the Meta Forum?
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Principia Discussion / Concerning Illuminatus Material
« on: March 26, 2008, 12:24:56 pm »
This is in response to Nigel's last reply in the "Cain Contra Robert Anton Wilson" thread . . .
I can only speak from personal experience, and cannot speak for others, but personally any material from Illuminatus I've ever "used" were almost always topics I was already interested in BEFORE reading anything Discordian: I had been a JFK assassination buff since my early teens, a friend in high school was a huge John Dillinger nut, I loved Bugs Bunny since I was child... blah blah blah and yadda yadda yadda...
I prefer Bugs Bunny (an Illuminatus Discordian idea) to Mickey Mouse (a PD Discordian idea) simply because Bugs seems more discordian to me... Mickey was sort of a putz, except for very early cartoons like Steamboat Willy... now, do I use Bugs Bunny very often? No. I think I used him once in a blog (From John Dillinger to Bugs Bunny In 5 Easy Steps)... and instead usually use Alfred E Neuman, or my own discordian mascots like Fudgio Montobono or whoever . . .
I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to pick and choose what I want to use from something else without being called a bobbie. If I was parroting EVERY single idea RAW or Illuminatus ever spouted, fine. But to avoid everything someone wrote so to NOT be a bobbie is sort of bobbie behaviour, is it not?
Need I quote the holy words of Vexati0n? "Doing everything exactly opposite from "The Mainstream" is the same thing as doing everything exactly like "The Mainstream." You're still using What Everyone Else is Doing as your primary point of reference. It's the same kind of stupid that is practiced by Satanists who worship the Christian Devil."
Oh, wait . . . I used someone else's words . . . I must be a bobbie.
I can only speak from personal experience, and cannot speak for others, but personally any material from Illuminatus I've ever "used" were almost always topics I was already interested in BEFORE reading anything Discordian: I had been a JFK assassination buff since my early teens, a friend in high school was a huge John Dillinger nut, I loved Bugs Bunny since I was child... blah blah blah and yadda yadda yadda...
I prefer Bugs Bunny (an Illuminatus Discordian idea) to Mickey Mouse (a PD Discordian idea) simply because Bugs seems more discordian to me... Mickey was sort of a putz, except for very early cartoons like Steamboat Willy... now, do I use Bugs Bunny very often? No. I think I used him once in a blog (From John Dillinger to Bugs Bunny In 5 Easy Steps)... and instead usually use Alfred E Neuman, or my own discordian mascots like Fudgio Montobono or whoever . . .
I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to pick and choose what I want to use from something else without being called a bobbie. If I was parroting EVERY single idea RAW or Illuminatus ever spouted, fine. But to avoid everything someone wrote so to NOT be a bobbie is sort of bobbie behaviour, is it not?
Need I quote the holy words of Vexati0n? "Doing everything exactly opposite from "The Mainstream" is the same thing as doing everything exactly like "The Mainstream." You're still using What Everyone Else is Doing as your primary point of reference. It's the same kind of stupid that is practiced by Satanists who worship the Christian Devil."
Oh, wait . . . I used someone else's words . . . I must be a bobbie.
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Principia Discussion / STRIFE or CHAOS?????
« on: February 25, 2008, 09:34:26 pm »
In all my research on Eris I have never seen an ancient reference about her makinf any reference to Chaos, only Strife.
Did Hill and Thornley just make the Chaos aspect up?
And if so, why not just use Chaos (or Kaos) the goddess?
Did Hill and Thornley just make the Chaos aspect up?
And if so, why not just use Chaos (or Kaos) the goddess?
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Principia Discussion / Illuminati End Of The World Projects
« on: February 14, 2008, 04:28:44 am »
FROM: Ramses Colossus,
Quinti-Primi Illuminati, Hermes Trismegistus Cabal
TO: Baron von Hoopla,
Esoteric Order Of Eris, Kaufman Kabal
Hoopla:
As we discussed at the zoo the other day, our plans for bringing about the End Of The World have been in motion for many years now. As I'm sure you are aware there are two lessons to any story, the obvious exoteric lesson, and the less obvious esoteric lesson. In regards to the End Of The World idea, consider the esoteric idea underneath the obvious, and it will become more clear. I'm talking about Revolution Of The Mind, Hoops. Of course, nothing of the sort has happened yet, but we're making progress.
You will -of course- remember in an earlier memo when I mentioned that we had been printing books blank, well that was simply the whipped cream on the pumpkin pie that mama made which nobody wants to eat because its so perfect it looks like it should be in magazine ad . . . in other words, nothing.
Here's some of what we've been working on:
-In 1963 we completely altered all sex education courses in North America, deleting any references to how noses and eyebrows also grow at puberty. This small change has resulted in more anti-social behavior than violent TV, video games or hip hop music combined. So far nobody has put it together.
-Bendy Straws. Not a single one has worked since 1982. This of course renders the straw completely useless. This one is subtle, but has profound effects. Have you noticed the rising state of anger in children during the last decade or so? Blame the straws. Of course, this is currently nothing. There's always a second act - wait until 2010 when ONLY bendy straws will be manufactured.
-We introduced Family Fued in late 1976 in an attempt to push the idea of herd mentality over the cliff, but even we were surprised by the zeal the public showed in attempting to be just like everyone else. In retrospect, this could be because we went with our softer title, which encouraged competition, instead of our original choice which we eventually deemed too obvious: "Be Like Me". Live and learn.
-Since the invention of the bikini bathing suit in 1946 we have been changing the way doctors are taught to cut umbilical cords, thereby subtly deforming the appearance of the average belly button over time in North America. Grotesque bellybuttons undermine a society's sense of self worth, but of course only if they are always visible, so once belly button esthetics reached an all-time low we introduced the fad of the bellytop. Self esteem and IQ levels plummeted across the continent - but wait until 2009, when the male bellytop fad is introduced. PANDEMONIUM!
There's more of course, but I'm pressed for time, being a very busy man. I can't say much about the project I am currently working on, but I can say that it involves the S Club 7 and Outer Space. Chew on that!
TTFN,
Ramses
PS: Concerning that Christopher Lee comment I happen to think I look more like Frank Langella, and sound more like Orson Welles.
Quinti-Primi Illuminati, Hermes Trismegistus Cabal
TO: Baron von Hoopla,
Esoteric Order Of Eris, Kaufman Kabal
Hoopla:
As we discussed at the zoo the other day, our plans for bringing about the End Of The World have been in motion for many years now. As I'm sure you are aware there are two lessons to any story, the obvious exoteric lesson, and the less obvious esoteric lesson. In regards to the End Of The World idea, consider the esoteric idea underneath the obvious, and it will become more clear. I'm talking about Revolution Of The Mind, Hoops. Of course, nothing of the sort has happened yet, but we're making progress.
You will -of course- remember in an earlier memo when I mentioned that we had been printing books blank, well that was simply the whipped cream on the pumpkin pie that mama made which nobody wants to eat because its so perfect it looks like it should be in magazine ad . . . in other words, nothing.
Here's some of what we've been working on:
-In 1963 we completely altered all sex education courses in North America, deleting any references to how noses and eyebrows also grow at puberty. This small change has resulted in more anti-social behavior than violent TV, video games or hip hop music combined. So far nobody has put it together.
-Bendy Straws. Not a single one has worked since 1982. This of course renders the straw completely useless. This one is subtle, but has profound effects. Have you noticed the rising state of anger in children during the last decade or so? Blame the straws. Of course, this is currently nothing. There's always a second act - wait until 2010 when ONLY bendy straws will be manufactured.
-We introduced Family Fued in late 1976 in an attempt to push the idea of herd mentality over the cliff, but even we were surprised by the zeal the public showed in attempting to be just like everyone else. In retrospect, this could be because we went with our softer title, which encouraged competition, instead of our original choice which we eventually deemed too obvious: "Be Like Me". Live and learn.
-Since the invention of the bikini bathing suit in 1946 we have been changing the way doctors are taught to cut umbilical cords, thereby subtly deforming the appearance of the average belly button over time in North America. Grotesque bellybuttons undermine a society's sense of self worth, but of course only if they are always visible, so once belly button esthetics reached an all-time low we introduced the fad of the bellytop. Self esteem and IQ levels plummeted across the continent - but wait until 2009, when the male bellytop fad is introduced. PANDEMONIUM!
There's more of course, but I'm pressed for time, being a very busy man. I can't say much about the project I am currently working on, but I can say that it involves the S Club 7 and Outer Space. Chew on that!
TTFN,
Ramses
PS: Concerning that Christopher Lee comment I happen to think I look more like Frank Langella, and sound more like Orson Welles.
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Principia Discussion / Eris' Nose-thumbing
« on: February 13, 2008, 05:11:33 am »
Anyone ever notice in this classic image of Eris (seen below) that she seems to be thumbing her nose, in that "NYAH NYAH" sort of way, like Karl Rove is illustrating even farther below?
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Or Kill Me / The Pental and the Pomal
« on: December 28, 2007, 04:16:40 pm »
The Sacred Chao represents everything in the Universe, of course. On one side we have a representation of a Pentagon which represents ORDER, and on the other side there is a representation of the Apple of Eris, which represents DISORDER. Neither is "true" and neither dominates: Elementary Discordianism.
But, like all things, the Sacred Chao reveals even more upon deeper reflection . . .
The Hairless Ape mind has (at least) two components: The Pental, and the Pomal.
PENTAL: The Pental is very observant, very quick, and likes to compartmentalize everything it witnesses; the Pental is also extremely arrogant. The Pental isn't usually aware of the Pomal, and when it is aware of its existence is very jealous and manipulative. The Pental believes itself to be the entire universe, and in a sense it is correct. The Pental IS the entire universe, at least for each of us. Everything I see is part of the Pental, everything I think about is part of the Pental, and my Pental tells me how to see and think about things. When I look at a "tree" I only "know" it is a "tree" because my Pental tells me. The Pental would have you believe that it is the only thing which exists.
POMAL: On the other hand, the Pomal has none of those qualities, in fact, to even attempt to describe the Pomal is doing it a grave disservice . . . any description or definition I gave would only be my Pental's idea of the Pomal anyway, and would therefor be useless. The closest I will come to pinning anything on the Pomal would be to compare it with the "Tao" . . . but even that is off. The Pomal is the Pomal, and thats really all there is to say about it. Don't let the lack of a definition trick you into believing the Pomal is lesser than the Pental however, that's just your Pental whispering to you. The Pomal rules dreams, intuition, synchronicity, tarot, the I-Ching, and magick - perhaps even quantum physics. Anytime the Pomal pops itself into your "normal world" the Pental will immediately pounce on it, and dominate it, to show you that it is boss, in this way the Pental shows that its power is over everything, and at the same time saves itself from destruction (despite what it believes, the Pental is very fragile, and can be disrupted easily by extreme emotional jolts, heavy drugs, meditation and yoga). The Pomal's influence on the world of the Pental is subtle, but profound.
Looking at the Sacred Chao again, with this in mind, will reveal that the image of the Chao also represents the Pental and the Pomal of the mind. The Pentagon -representing ORDER- also represents the Pental, which spreads its grid of knowledge over everything it sees and hears and simultaneously imposes its notion of "order" onto what is primal chaos in essence. The Apple of Eris -representing DISORDER- also represents the Pomal, and the vastly unnamable qualities it symbolizes.
The Sacred Chao, obviously, also represents everything else you can think of as well, from Bingo to Symphony Orchestras, but my Pental and Pomal felt like talking about themselves today.
But, like all things, the Sacred Chao reveals even more upon deeper reflection . . .
The Hairless Ape mind has (at least) two components: The Pental, and the Pomal.
PENTAL: The Pental is very observant, very quick, and likes to compartmentalize everything it witnesses; the Pental is also extremely arrogant. The Pental isn't usually aware of the Pomal, and when it is aware of its existence is very jealous and manipulative. The Pental believes itself to be the entire universe, and in a sense it is correct. The Pental IS the entire universe, at least for each of us. Everything I see is part of the Pental, everything I think about is part of the Pental, and my Pental tells me how to see and think about things. When I look at a "tree" I only "know" it is a "tree" because my Pental tells me. The Pental would have you believe that it is the only thing which exists.
POMAL: On the other hand, the Pomal has none of those qualities, in fact, to even attempt to describe the Pomal is doing it a grave disservice . . . any description or definition I gave would only be my Pental's idea of the Pomal anyway, and would therefor be useless. The closest I will come to pinning anything on the Pomal would be to compare it with the "Tao" . . . but even that is off. The Pomal is the Pomal, and thats really all there is to say about it. Don't let the lack of a definition trick you into believing the Pomal is lesser than the Pental however, that's just your Pental whispering to you. The Pomal rules dreams, intuition, synchronicity, tarot, the I-Ching, and magick - perhaps even quantum physics. Anytime the Pomal pops itself into your "normal world" the Pental will immediately pounce on it, and dominate it, to show you that it is boss, in this way the Pental shows that its power is over everything, and at the same time saves itself from destruction (despite what it believes, the Pental is very fragile, and can be disrupted easily by extreme emotional jolts, heavy drugs, meditation and yoga). The Pomal's influence on the world of the Pental is subtle, but profound.
Looking at the Sacred Chao again, with this in mind, will reveal that the image of the Chao also represents the Pental and the Pomal of the mind. The Pentagon -representing ORDER- also represents the Pental, which spreads its grid of knowledge over everything it sees and hears and simultaneously imposes its notion of "order" onto what is primal chaos in essence. The Apple of Eris -representing DISORDER- also represents the Pomal, and the vastly unnamable qualities it symbolizes.
The Sacred Chao, obviously, also represents everything else you can think of as well, from Bingo to Symphony Orchestras, but my Pental and Pomal felt like talking about themselves today.
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Or Kill Me / On The Subway
« on: October 31, 2007, 11:25:21 am »
While on the subway surrounded by dog-faced boys and urine-smelling women it occurred to me that I do indeed live on the Planet Of The Apes. Packed back to back and ham to ham people sweated as they picked their noses burping and hiccuping while dreaming of who would get kicked off American Idol and wondering why it was so much more fulfilling than Canadian Idol.
An elbow in the ear and supposedly turn the other cheek is the answer when slicing the same cheek would be so much more fulfilling. Bleach blonde babes check their reflections in the dark doors as flickering lights fly by in the background . . . the hair is green and brittle at the ends, the lighting would make Johansen look like George Arliss.
Grinding teeth is not a suitable substitute for quick and hard jabs to the kidneys.
Children hang from poles like strippers missing legs banging into thick full coats filled with sweat and hate. Necks so thin and frail a simple Tura Satana chop could take the whole thing off, bounce bounce bouncing down the aisle people feigning horror and fright while secretly screaming WHOOP in the basements of their heads.
Sometimes in crowds such as these the only suitable answer is a chain-saw.
An elbow in the ear and supposedly turn the other cheek is the answer when slicing the same cheek would be so much more fulfilling. Bleach blonde babes check their reflections in the dark doors as flickering lights fly by in the background . . . the hair is green and brittle at the ends, the lighting would make Johansen look like George Arliss.
Grinding teeth is not a suitable substitute for quick and hard jabs to the kidneys.
Children hang from poles like strippers missing legs banging into thick full coats filled with sweat and hate. Necks so thin and frail a simple Tura Satana chop could take the whole thing off, bounce bounce bouncing down the aisle people feigning horror and fright while secretly screaming WHOOP in the basements of their heads.
Sometimes in crowds such as these the only suitable answer is a chain-saw.
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Principia Discussion / Discordian Dates, Etc.
« on: October 16, 2007, 11:03:00 pm »
I've been noticing that almost every Discordian site uses the standard Discordian dating system - is this not sort of missing the point of Discordianism?
I made up my own calendar over a year ago, nothing special, but I can say its mine.
Thoughts?
I made up my own calendar over a year ago, nothing special, but I can say its mine.
Thoughts?
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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / I Have A Suspect For The "Concordia Movement" Guy . . .
« on: March 15, 2007, 12:35:09 pm »
Anyone wanna take a guess?
Need a hint?
http://concordiamovement.blogspot.com/2007/03/black-iron-prison.html
Need a hint?
http://concordiamovement.blogspot.com/2007/03/black-iron-prison.html