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You know, each time I try to give him the benefit of the doubt, that he may just be pointing out that no one is perfect, and then you get...

I appreciate the consideration LMNO.  What gave you the "and then you get..." this time?  What he replied to the post, or something you read yourself that contradicted the information I have?

It's by no means a cut and dry issue.  I did think it was getting a bit whitewashed as "Oh, poor unions that never did a thing to deserve it are now getting punished"

So nothing to say about the Viagra incident Rev.?

That, and the unions very cozy relationship with WEA Trust.  You might want to google that.

You know, I looked it up, and WEA Trust does not finance the union in any way, other than as a health insurance company.  They are also under investigation for ripping teachers off at retirement, and the teacher's union has not lifted a finger to forestall that.

So why would you be so interested in WEA Trust?  Because they're a health insurance company, and your right wing pals have a problem with health insurance for the little people:

Sen. Alberta Darling (R-River Hills) on Monday said she pushed years ago for health insurance to be removed from collective bargaining agreements, but former Gov. Jim Doyle vetoed the move.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/126151423.html

Once again, Disco Pickle has demonstrated his pre-rich credentials, and is a fine addition to the teabagger movement, in any location or capacity.

I salute you, sir.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2012/may/21/behind-rhetoric-wea-trust-and-school-health-care-c/

That should help you see the connections you missed in whatever it was you read.

I'll ignore the cheap shots.

[need to learn about shared sacrifice]

One voter, Roberta Komor of Wauwatosa, told Reuters that she had voted for Mr Barrett when he ran in 2010, but switched her vote this time, saying unions "need to learn about shared sacrifice".

Jesus fucking Christ.  He really did it, he convinced everyone that fucking teachers are the cause of our woes.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/100108249.html

Not the teachers, their unions.  That very expensive event mentioned in the article was one of the reasons people (teachers included) wanted to limit the unions ability to do things just like that.

That, and the unions very cozy relationship with WEA Trust.  You might want to google that.

To imply they've never done anything monumentally stupid or self serving that would cause people to turn against them, at the expense of not only their own members, but tax payers as well, is disingenuous. 

People are over-analyzing this shit.

Zimmerman created and then escalated - against police advice - a dangerous and unnecessary situation with reckless disregard for life.  A life was lost.

It's a murder.

True enough.

I've just been exposed to a number of fucking morons who are trying to justify what happened as some sort of twisted self defense case to let Zimmerman go.  It's made me a bit itchy on the points of the case.

Said morons are probably rooting against Black folks. They don't get the difference between race and team sports.

And/Or they are gun nuts having a knee-jerk OH FUCK THEY'RE GONNA USE THIS TO TAKE MY GUNZ reaction.

HOW CAN WE HAVE AMERICA ^(tm) WITHOUT ARMED MORONS?

Is it wrong that I'm in a mood to round up every moron I can find and have them branded so they can be identified easily?

Just make them sew a big yellow star of David "I" to their shirts. 

Nice. 

Unfortunately, I probably would not be surprised by the number of people who would read that and still come to the conclusion that that's an ok thing to do.

Im with 000 on the goes on too long side.  Love the distortion, and it's a solid beat but 32 and 40 counts without some variations or mix ups is a bit boring, IMO.

Some people go for that sort of thing.

Good start, I'll keep this thread on ma lista.

Went looking for this thread earlier today and couldn't remember where it was.  Search just laughs at me.

So the kitten killer leveled up, at no surprise to anyone.  And the eyebrows are very MS Paint. 

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Previously unreleased pics made public.

Also, I don't consider 1" - 36" to be "distance" when shooting a gun, but maybe that's ME speak for just over point blank range (or just over close enough to burn skin or leave powder marks?)

 

Noted.  I was actually a little surprised to find something there I thought was worth sharing.

I've usually liked Einhorn though, no matter where or when he writes on financials.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-einhorn/fed-interest-rates_b_1472509.html

David Einhorn writes one of the best articles I've ever read on HuffP.

I'd quote some of it here but reading it ate up my break and I'm swamped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkZcTg1JWU

On the birth of computer sound and graphics, and the Demo.

Math heads will very much enjoy this.

It's long.  Hour and a half, so set aside some time.

He's got his panties in a wad because NBC edited an audio that millions of people have ALREADY HEARD in its entirety. Like it's 1960 or something and there's three TV stations and most peoples' antennas only pull in NBC.

lol, millions of people with the internets, (forgetting that "millions" is not a majority on the planet, right?) capable and willing to go and find the REAL audio, even after they heard what they were told by N FUCKING B C.

Fucking lol. 

It's the "NEW" bias, assuming anyone who doesn't go and find the REAL news (the one posted on the "good" news websites) is just not doing their due diligence. 

That's too fucking funny.

I gotta admit, I don't understand the whole "Zimmerman is obviously a racist" narrative given that he's not even white.

That said, he doesn't need to have been racially motivated in the least for what he did to be inexcusable and he should be charged with murder.

He can still be racist.  I'll admit though, the noise they're making about the racism issue keeps making me think he's white, instead of hispanic.

So even though he isn't white, it could still have been racially motivated.  But maybe it wasn't.  Either way, it's awful and sad.

Don't worry, hispanics will be the majority within the next 30-40 years, get in your prejudices now and beat the rush. 


It's the race bating being fed by the media and mirrored here by people I expect to know better that is bothering me.

but an unarmed black guy was killed by an "white" guy with a gun.  It's racist until proven otherwise. 

He was probably a republican and NRA member too.   

I don't see how the potential for Latinos to be a majority in the US is relevant to the conversation at all.

I also don't see how the race-baiting in the media makes it OK for Zimmerman to have murdered an unarmed kid after being clearly told not to follow or confront him by the actual police (or what passes for them in Florida).

potential for latinos to be a majority (reality, really, if you consider census stats and barring some catastrophe) was just a bait to Freeky and anyone else riding the "majority violence against a minority is always racism" train.  Forgetting that "majority" being used strictly to denote race is racism at it's most delicious. 

Saw your reply post, but will also say that no, it's not ok for him to have murdered an unarmed kid.   It doesn't even matter that he was told not to follow the person, he should not have shot him.  Given the history of the neighborhood, I can't say with certainty that I would not have had a gun on me were I in his place.   He should have never left his vehicle.  If he hadn't, 2 lives would not now be ruined. 

That being said, people should always be able to call 911 when they suspect someone in their neighborhood shouldn't be there or might be there with intentions to commit a crime, regardless of their skin color, without being labled racists.

Even if they are REALLY real for realz racists.

I gotta admit, I don't understand the whole "Zimmerman is obviously a racist" narrative given that he's not even white.

That said, he doesn't need to have been racially motivated in the least for what he did to be inexcusable and he should be charged with murder.

I agree with you completely on this.

I gotta admit, I don't understand the whole "Zimmerman is obviously a racist" narrative given that he's not even white.

That said, he doesn't need to have been racially motivated in the least for what he did to be inexcusable and he should be charged with murder.

He can still be racist.  I'll admit though, the noise they're making about the racism issue keeps making me think he's white, instead of hispanic.

So even though he isn't white, it could still have been racially motivated.  But maybe it wasn't.  Either way, it's awful and sad.

Don't worry, hispanics will be the majority within the next 30-40 years, get in your prejudices now and beat the rush. 


It's the race bating being fed by the media and mirrored here by people I expect to know better that is bothering me.

but an unarmed black guy was killed by an "white" guy with a gun.  It's racist until proven otherwise. 

He was probably a republican and NRA member too.   

Guys, it's Disco Pickle.  That's really all there needs to be said.  You may as well get mad at the sun for rising.

Point. 

Seriously.  Whenever DP starts getting like this, just ignore him.  It is the internet equivalent of a rolled up newspaper.  But everyone has to do it, or it's like gramma giving a kid candy when mom sent him to timeout.

But that only works for assholes who want to be right.  For people such as Ben Mack 2.0, don't show any emotion, and only say "Go away.  We don't want you here."  Anything other than a neutral response like the one above will give him what he wants, which is stuff to jack off to.

You've contributed exactly nothing to this discussion.  I expected nothing more.