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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 28, 2013, 09:41:30 PM

Title: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 28, 2013, 09:41:30 PM
America has developed possibly the most perfect business scheme ever... private, for-profit prisons. But with a declining crime rate, wherever will we get enough prisoners to make this stay lucrative?

Oh.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/11/11876/corrections-corporation-america-used-drug-sweeps-public-school-students

(link courtesy of TGRR)
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 28, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
OH YES, LET'S DO TALK ABOUT THIS.

LOOK! THE NETHERLANDS IS CLOSING MORE PRISONS! (http://www.omg-facts.com/Other/The-Netherlands-Is-Closing-8-Prisons-Due/51396)

WHAT'S THEIR SECRET?

Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 28, 2013, 09:53:10 PM
Quote from: stelz on March 28, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
OH YES, LET'S DO TALK ABOUT THIS.

LOOK! THE NETHERLANDS IS CLOSING MORE PRISONS! (http://www.omg-facts.com/Other/The-Netherlands-Is-Closing-8-Prisons-Due/51396)

WHAT'S THEIR SECRET?

Communism and sodomy.
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 28, 2013, 10:00:17 PM
Some people don't think there's a problem, but the ACLU seems to.

http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/school-prison-pipeline

So, it seems, do an awful lot of other people:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/denver-school-to-prison-pipeline_n_2725816.html
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/07/1682141/texas-chief-justice-stop-over-criminalizing-misbehaving-students/
http://www.naacpldf.org/case/school-prison-pipeline

Here's a classic; a six-year-old now has a criminal record for having a meltdown in class:
http://dignityinschools.org/blog/school-based-arrests-criminalize-students-and-feed-school-prison-pipeline

Yep, nothing wrong with the system!
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Yep.  And this is what makes "diversion" even more horrifying.

Okay, so the kid is middle class enough to get diversion, right?  HE'S STILL FUCKING BRANDED, marked for life with the brand of the system.

So he didn't do time this time.  Next time he sneezes, he's fucked.  But it lets people think the system isn't the horror show that it is.

Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 28, 2013, 10:18:40 PM
I wonder who writes and supports all these bills that push for increased policing of schools and criminalization of children for what was formerly simply considered misconduct?

Oh.

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_%26_Privatization
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2013, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 28, 2013, 10:18:40 PM
I wonder who writes and supports all these bills that push for increased policing of schools and criminalization of children for what was formerly simply considered misconduct?

Oh.

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_%26_Privatization

AND WHAT COMPANIES ARE REPRESENTED ON THE BOARD OF ALEC?

HO HO HO!
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 28, 2013, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Yep.  And this is what makes "diversion" even more horrifying.

Okay, so the kid is middle class enough to get diversion, right?  HE'S STILL FUCKING BRANDED, marked for life with the brand of the system.

So he didn't do time this time.  Next time he sneezes, he's fucked.  But it lets people think the system isn't the horror show that it is.

Yep.

A tantrum in class when he was six means that if he's caught with a joint when he's 15, it won't be a first offense.

Hey, I wonder who's behind all these tough-on-crime laws?

Oh.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Corrections_Corporation_of_America

Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 28, 2013, 10:37:02 PM
I WONDER IF THEY HAVE A WEBSITE? LET'S GO LOOK!
http://www.cca.com/

WOW, THEY HAVE A BIG SECTION ON "SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY"!
THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER!

AND THEY STARTED IN 1983!

"JUST SAY NO", KIDS!
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 29, 2013, 02:31:58 AM
Because once you've been "diverted" you can never act freely again.

Wanna go to a protest? You better be out of there before the civil disobedience starts, or your ass is going away.
Wanna run for office? Sorry, dude, this is TOTALLY coming out during your campaign. Best to support some Good CitizenTM that doesn't have a record.
Wanna teach? You'll be lucky if you get accepted, and just wait until the parents find out!
Wanna do anything online? You'd best watch your ass, because everything online is a felony if we say so, and we already let you go once!
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: navkat on March 29, 2013, 07:27:38 AM
I've been railing about this for a few years now. This topic fills me with a case of the monkeys.  :argh!:

#3 growth industry in the country!
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on April 07, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Yep.  And this is what makes "diversion" even more horrifying.

Okay, so the kid is middle class enough to get diversion, right?  HE'S STILL FUCKING BRANDED, marked for life with the brand of the system.

So he didn't do time this time.  Next time he sneezes, he's fucked.  But it lets people think the system isn't the horror show that it is.

...and the "diverters" (diversionists?) are often private, too. And boy do they lobby!
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: MMIX on December 04, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
http://blog.blacknews.com/2013/05/judge-mark-ciavarella-sentenced-selling-kids-prison-system101.html#.Up8pDMRdU0O

OK, its just one push back against an unholy tide of shit. But that is something? Right?
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Reginald Ret on December 04, 2013, 02:24:15 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *WHEEEZE* *COUGH* *PUKE*
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Junkenstein on December 04, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: MMIX on December 04, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
http://blog.blacknews.com/2013/05/judge-mark-ciavarella-sentenced-selling-kids-prison-system101.html#.Up8pDMRdU0O

OK, its just one push back against an unholy tide of shit. But that is something? Right?

QuoteThe Pennsylvania Supreme Court has overturned some 4,000 convictions issued by him between 2003 and 2008, claiming he violated the constitutional rights of the juveniles – including the right to legal counsel and the right to intelligently enter a plea. Some of the juveniles he sentenced were as young as 10-years old.

That's one judge, and at least 4000 kids lives ruined. Restitution of $1.2 million.

That's $ 300/ Kid, split equally. I assume the logic here is that is a lot of money to a ten year old so it's appropriate.

Another angle is that this gives an indication of the scale of the horror. Assume 1 judge with similar sentencing attitudes per state. Be generous and assume there's no corruption.

That's a scary number, and that's being totally optimistic.
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: MMIX on December 04, 2013, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 04, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: MMIX on December 04, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
http://blog.blacknews.com/2013/05/judge-mark-ciavarella-sentenced-selling-kids-prison-system101.html#.Up8pDMRdU0O

OK, its just one push back against an unholy tide of shit. But that is something? Right?

QuoteThe Pennsylvania Supreme Court has overturned some 4,000 convictions issued by him between 2003 and 2008, claiming he violated the constitutional rights of the juveniles – including the right to legal counsel and the right to intelligently enter a plea. Some of the juveniles he sentenced were as young as 10-years old.

That's one judge, and at least 4000 kids lives ruined. Restitution of $1.2 million.

That's $ 300/ Kid, split equally. I assume the logic here is that is a lot of money to a ten year old so it's appropriate.

Another angle is that this gives an indication of the scale of the horror. Assume 1 judge with similar sentencing attitudes per state. Be generous and assume there's no corruption.

That's a scary number, and that's being totally optimistic.

<sigh> Yeah that was pretty much my reaction too.
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 04, 2013, 04:31:05 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 04, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: MMIX on December 04, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
http://blog.blacknews.com/2013/05/judge-mark-ciavarella-sentenced-selling-kids-prison-system101.html#.Up8pDMRdU0O

OK, its just one push back against an unholy tide of shit. But that is something? Right?

QuoteThe Pennsylvania Supreme Court has overturned some 4,000 convictions issued by him between 2003 and 2008, claiming he violated the constitutional rights of the juveniles – including the right to legal counsel and the right to intelligently enter a plea. Some of the juveniles he sentenced were as young as 10-years old.

That's one judge, and at least 4000 kids lives ruined. Restitution of $1.2 million.

That's $ 300/ Kid, split equally. I assume the logic here is that is a lot of money to a ten year old so it's appropriate.

Another angle is that this gives an indication of the scale of the horror. Assume 1 judge with similar sentencing attitudes per state. Be generous and assume there's no corruption.

That's a scary number, and that's being totally optimistic.

Hmmm this is an interesting development, because at least two other judges have been caught doing the same thing (in Oregon and New York) but neither of them have been sentenced. Yet.
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 04, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
What's even more interesting is that I dug a little deeper and this sentencing occurred in 2011. It looks like he appealed, and lost the appeal in July this year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mark-ciavarella-jr_n_924324.html
http://rollingout.com/criminal-behavior/judge-must-serve-28-years-after-making-2-million-for-sending-children-to-jail/

So now I'm wondering why this is popping up just now?
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 04, 2013, 04:40:54 PM
Also interesting is that he's news, but for some reason his partner in crime isn't? http://citizensvoice.com/boss-conahan-sentenced-to-17-years-1.1207996
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Wisa1 on December 06, 2013, 11:44:05 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 04, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: MMIX on December 04, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
http://blog.blacknews.com/2013/05/judge-mark-ciavarella-sentenced-selling-kids-prison-system101.html#.Up8pDMRdU0O

OK, its just one push back against an unholy tide of shit. But that is something? Right?

QuoteThe Pennsylvania Supreme Court has overturned some 4,000 convictions issued by him between 2003 and 2008, claiming he violated the constitutional rights of the juveniles – including the right to legal counsel and the right to intelligently enter a plea. Some of the juveniles he sentenced were as young as 10-years old.

That's one judge, and at least 4000 kids lives ruined. Restitution of $1.2 million.

That's $ 300/ Kid, split equally. I assume the logic here is that is a lot of money to a ten year old so it's appropriate.

Another angle is that this gives an indication of the scale of the horror. Assume 1 judge with similar sentencing attitudes per state. Be generous and assume there's no corruption.

That's a scary number, and that's being totally optimistic.

On the bright side maybe the overturned judgements and the media attention will sufficiently piss off his backers to make the 28 years stint a lot less comfortable than it might have been... Then again probably not.
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Wisa1 on December 06, 2013, 11:54:14 AM
"The system was not corrupt, I was corrupt," Conahan said. "I did not perform my duties as I should. I did not have integrity."
haha he's clearly angling for a 5-star cell
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 16, 2013, 12:22:53 AM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 04, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
What's even more interesting is that I dug a little deeper and this sentencing occurred in 2011. It looks like he appealed, and lost the appeal in July this year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mark-ciavarella-jr_n_924324.html
http://rollingout.com/criminal-behavior/judge-must-serve-28-years-after-making-2-million-for-sending-children-to-jail/

So now I'm wondering why this is popping up just now?

Does anybody have an idea?
When I posted the story on facebook, some asshole was all "Why are are you posting this now, it's old"  :x
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: MMIX on December 16, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on December 16, 2013, 12:22:53 AM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 04, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
What's even more interesting is that I dug a little deeper and this sentencing occurred in 2011. It looks like he appealed, and lost the appeal in July this year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mark-ciavarella-jr_n_924324.html
http://rollingout.com/criminal-behavior/judge-must-serve-28-years-after-making-2-million-for-sending-children-to-jail/

So now I'm wondering why this is popping up just now?

Does anybody have an idea?
When I posted the story on facebook, some asshole was all "Why are are you posting this now, it's old"  :x

Well,
QuoteCiavarella appealed to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia to have his 28-year sentence overturned. On July 25, the court denied his request.

Ciavarella's attorneys may attempt to appeal the case before the U.S. Supreme Court.
my emphasis.

So a few thoughts
1]  the case may not be finished yet
2] there are a couple of books out about the case, there may have been some publicity about them or
3] maybe one is due to go into paperback
4] THIS WILL NEVER GET OLD FFS it should be shouted from the rooftops everyday until everyone grasps the fact that the legal system is a] corrupt and b] racist

Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on May 26, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Bump.

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/education-uprising/where-dignity-is-part-of-the-school-day

QuoteA UC Berkeley Law study found [Restorative Justice for Oakland Youth] RJOY's 2007 middle school pilot eliminated violence and expulsions, while reducing school suspension rates by 87 percent. After two years of training and participation in RJ practices, whenever conflict arose, RJOY middle school students knew how to respond by coming to the RJ room to ask for a talking piece and space to facilitate a circle. Today, at one of the RJOY school sites, student suspensions decreased 74 percent after two years and referrals for violence fell 77 percent after one year. Racial disparity in discipline was eliminated. Graduation rates and test scores increased.
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: whenhellfreezes on May 26, 2014, 08:13:16 PM
Quote from: Net (+ 1 Hidden) on May 26, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Bump.

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/education-uprising/where-dignity-is-part-of-the-school-day

QuoteA UC Berkeley Law study found [Restorative Justice for Oakland Youth] RJOY's 2007 middle school pilot eliminated violence and expulsions, while reducing school suspension rates by 87 percent. After two years of training and participation in RJ practices, whenever conflict arose, RJOY middle school students knew how to respond by coming to the RJ room to ask for a talking piece and space to facilitate a circle. Today, at one of the RJOY school sites, student suspensions decreased 74 percent after two years and referrals for violence fell 77 percent after one year. Racial disparity in discipline was eliminated. Graduation rates and test scores increased.

Interesting side note from the article is that it seems as though the Center for Disease Control funded some studies on violence. Are they treating violence as a spreadable disease? Seems like an interesting thought.
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
Looks like they are referring to this paper http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/protective/pdf/connectedness.pdf

A bit too heavy on the graphics for my liking, but I guess if that's what it takes to get the kids and policy makers reading it these days...
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: LMNO on March 13, 2019, 04:10:24 PM
I was not expecting this, but I'll take it.


After years of targeted actions by everyday activists and concerned shareholders, JPMorgan Chase announced early this morning that they will stop financing [private prison companies] GEO Group and CoreCivic. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/morgansimon/2019/03/05/jpmorgan-chase-is-done-with-private-prisons/#5fadc51b690d)
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: Telarus on March 13, 2019, 09:12:10 PM
Whoa, that's interesting....
Title: Re: Let's talk about THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE!
Post by: altered on March 13, 2019, 10:18:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 13, 2019, 04:10:24 PM
I was not expecting this, but I'll take it.


After years of targeted actions by everyday activists and concerned shareholders, JPMorgan Chase announced early this morning that they will stop financing [private prison companies] GEO Group and CoreCivic. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/morgansimon/2019/03/05/jpmorgan-chase-is-done-with-private-prisons/#5fadc51b690d)

Good news for once? By god, it's a Christmas miracle and it isn't even Christmas.