I was talking with everybody, and we seem like we're on the same page.
So by combining our funds, we'll all buy a plot of land somewhere. (perhaps Oregon) Then we'll all move there and begin our Discordian Commune.
We each need to bring something to the table to bring in income. Then we can live bourgeois lives like big pimpin Discordians.
All I can offer is my dislike of other Discordians.
I guess a number of us could spend our time putting together books and stuff. Then we could try to sell them.
I'm positive someone would begin growing drugs, that would def. bring in some cash.
We could offer space in the commune as a mystic retreat of some sort, then dose our guests with acid and make them think they've joined an alien illuminati cult.
We all teach each other everything we know about the following:
Plumbing
Electricity
Carpentry
Landscaping
Masonry
We can hire ourselves out as a team of handyspags as well as being able to do all of this work for ourselves, thus saving the commune money.
Quote from: Cainad on August 19, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Plumbing
Electricity
Carpentry
Landscaping
Freemasonry
fixed
Also I would rather move rocks around than spend buttloads of time studying whatever theological hogwash they're all about. But that might just be me.
Question - if we want to attract dim-witted celebrities, brimming with $$$, how do we out-sex Scientology?
Quote from: Cramulus on August 19, 2009, 07:17:45 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 19, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Plumbing
Electricity
Carpentry
Landscaping
Freemasonry
fixed
Can't make money if it's fixed already.
I can help with the drug-growing. I have quite the green thumb. I am also handy with crapentry and landscaping. Money, on the other hand...
P.S. Point out the obvious spelling error for fun and prophet! It makes you seem smarter, and you get to boost your ego!
Cause what we really want is the feds on our asses.
I bet we could throw really sick parties, ala the acid tests (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_Tests).
we'd have to play up the sex cult thing for the media attention
I'm down. Here's my skillset (aside from the wit, writing, and BS, which we all got):
Roofing / weatherproofing
Metalwork (How NOT to kill yourself with power tools and fire.)
Simple Carpentry ( general hammer - swinging)
Leatherwork (Tanning, sewing, tooling)
Basic engine maintenance (gas and diesel)
Sewing (In the passable manly tradition)
Survival
Electronics (very basic)
Land / Sea navigation (triangulation / dead reaconing)
Demolition
Cooking, food preservation
Rigging / hoisting / erecting
Medium sized truck (anything smaller than an 18 -wheeler)
Boat operation (if it floats I can sail it)
Jurry rigging, improvisation, half assing, and duct tape.
Or we could run a LARP.
I have almost no practical skills.
Sounds good. I have no skills except in information reception and delivery.
I have a lot of contempt. That must be good for something.
Quote from: Kai on August 19, 2009, 08:01:28 PM
Sounds good. I have no skills except in information reception and delivery.
You could tell us which bugs are good to eat?
I can fix computers, some other basic electronics.
Assuming somebody who knows what they're doing gives me instructions I can do carpentry and light construction/landscaping etc.
I have access to knowledge on everything.
Quote from: Cain on August 19, 2009, 08:45:44 PM
I have access to knowledge on everything.
Yeah? So where are my car keys?
Where you last left them.
:crankey:
Fuckin MASTERSTROKE
:thanks:
I can sew. That way we can all have matching uniforms when guests arrive.
I can't wear my vintage blood - stained dhoti? :sad:
Quote from: Richter on August 19, 2009, 08:52:53 PM
I can't wear my vintage blood - stained dhoti? :sad:
I may just make that PART of the uniform.
Fuck commune - Discordian nomads.
This is a lot like the fantasy I was having with that church for sale in my neighborhood last year.
Also, my dad has 12.5 acres of prime farmland in Gervais, just sitting there. It's going into trust when he dies, for any of us kids to use. I say we get the jump on the rest of them, and rebuild the farmhouse into a commune! I still haven't looked into getting tax-exempt status as a church, but I'm pretty sure there are enough of us that we could pull it off.
I am skilled at:
Beadmaking
Marketing and promotion
Gardening
Small-animal husbandry
Charismatic recruitment
Sewing
Cooking
Shooting guns
Preserving food
Making random stuff
I could teach everyone to make beads, and we could dominate the glass-bead economy!
I am completely skill-less. Talentless hack, ahoy!
Well, I can bake some tasty desserts.
Why is it that this sounds like a better than my current life-arc? :cry:
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 19, 2009, 10:00:09 PM
I am completely skill-less. Talentless hack, ahoy!
Well, I can bake some tasty desserts.
Everyone needs tasty desserts.
I think setting up our own microbrewery is a given, yes?
I am The Motherfucking Messiah.
TIA.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 19, 2009, 10:00:09 PM
I am completely skill-less. Talentless hack, ahoy!
Well, I can bake some tasty desserts.
Baking is a skill! People even make money at it.
Quote from: Payne on August 19, 2009, 10:07:12 PM
I am The Motherfucking Messiah.
TIA.
Will you be joining us on the commune, or will we be forced to worship you from afar?
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 19, 2009, 10:10:07 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 19, 2009, 10:07:12 PM
I am The Motherfucking Messiah.
TIA.
Will you be joining us on the commune, or will we be forced to worship you from afar?
I'd kinda have to be there with you all, otherwise you can't crucify me just when my shit is getting good.
Gotta be crucified else I ain't no messiah.
I propose the use of hot air balloons on this compound.
I propose the reckless use of firearms, plentiful small children and mocking signs about the ATF.
I am something of a generalist, that means i am bad but not horrible at everything.
i know enough basic first aid and human anatomy to make me a slighty better healer than bedrest.
i am willing to do pretty much anything regardless of filthyness or danger (you'd be surprised how often this is useful)
as long as there is not an enforced hierarchy(read: equality is of paramount importance) i am quite capable at shaping the social structure into something relaxed and productive.
also, i learn quickly.
Oh and i know how to kill weeds and have some insight in why plants grow/die.
i am a horrible cook but am quite skilled in detoxifying potentially edible stuff.
Quote from: Cain on August 19, 2009, 10:39:37 PM
I propose the reckless use of firearms, plentiful small children and mocking signs about the ATF.
Die in a fire. :lulz:
Quote from: Regret on August 19, 2009, 10:50:01 PM
I am something of a generalist, that means i am bad but not horrible at everything.
i know enough basic first aid and human anatomy to make me a slighty better healer than bedrest.
i am willing to do pretty much anything regardless of filthyness or danger (you'd be surprised how often this is useful)
as long as there is not an enforced hierarchy(read: equality is of paramount importance) i am quite capable at shaping the social structure into something relaxed and productive.
also, i learn quickly.
Oh and i know how to kill weeds and have some insight in why plants grow/die.
i am a horrible cook but am quite skilled in detoxifying potentially edible stuff.
Oh, I didn't think to include that. I know biology and basics associated with first aid, edible and poisonous plants, mushrooms, animals, drinking water safety, cooking of various wild foods, some basics of soils, fisheries wildlife and forestry management, and what I don't know I can find out.
I can build evil vending machines.
Quote from: Cainad on August 19, 2009, 10:06:42 PM
I think setting up our own microbrewery is a given, yes?
I could swipe my parents beer recipe.
They have trophies for it.
i can judge your commune fashion sense, tell you every thing you like is boring, sleep, make sure your decorating doesnt clash, and draw your portrait.
and i have a vag so i can turn tricks if i get desperate :D
I'm learning to brew and build stills. That might come in handy.
I've always wanted a cult.
I can fix anything.
But I'm stuck in Arizona. The gravity is too high.
Surely a discordian cult would be an excellent environment to raise your children!
Bread baking
Plus I'm young so I can panhandle and get sympathy.
If we all lived in a commune, wouldn't that make us communists?
so?
We can look pink and still take their green.
i can dig
I'm useful for lots of stuffs.
no really.
Quote from: Cainad on August 19, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
We all teach each other everything we know about the following:
Plumbing
Electricity
Carpentry
Landscaping
Masonry
We can hire ourselves out as a team of handyspags as well as being able to do all of this work for ourselves, thus saving the commune money.
Don;t forget gardening, very useful on communes.
I think I was there for that conversation. I actually grew up on a commune and it has a lot to reccomend it.
Kai's got the biology, I've got the chemistry. I can do reactions, distillations, extractions, etc. I also know quite a bit about water treatment and various other forms of plumbing (chemical engineering = plumbing with style!!!) And I can drive a fork lift, which almost never comes in handy.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on August 20, 2009, 09:29:13 AM
Kai's got the biology, I've got the chemistry. I can do reactions, distillations, extractions, etc. I also know quite a bit about water treatment and various other forms of plumbing (chemical engineering = plumbing with style!!!) And I can drive a fork lift, which almost never comes in handy.
And we of course have plenty of physicists, so we can build a super collider.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 19, 2009, 11:31:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 19, 2009, 10:39:37 PM
I propose the reckless use of firearms, plentiful small children and mocking signs about the ATF.
Die in a fire. :lulz:
We should also buy lots of cyanide, for no apparent reason.
I can do planning, scheming and delegating. Also, teaching. And brewing booze. And I can manage our online mass mailing donation scam something.
However, beyond that, I kind of wonder what is the point of being Discordian if you bubble yourself off from society and go live in a commune?
First, we are *bound* to get in much worse flamefests and shit than on this forum, the community will explode or split within a month. For that is the blessing and the curse of Our Lady of Strife.
Plus, it's much better and useful to battle grayface and Machine from within its own ranks like a cancer than as an outside entity like a single mosquito.
I can administer fear if you serfs build me a tower
:hit:
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 20, 2009, 11:55:53 AM
I can do planning, scheming and delegating. Also, teaching. And brewing booze. And I can manage our online mass mailing donation scam something.
However, beyond that, I kind of wonder what is the point of being Discordian if you bubble yourself off from society and go live in a commune?
First, we are *bound* to get in much worse flamefests and shit than on this forum, the community will explode or split within a month. For that is the blessing and the curse of Our Lady of Strife.
Plus, it's much better and useful to battle grayface and Machine from within its own ranks like a cancer than as an outside entity like a single mosquito.
The point (to me) is threefold:
-as a group sharing a physical location, we could pull off some really cool stuff. Like throwing parties, or mass pranks, or whatever.
-I'm fucking sick of society! I'm starting to think that I'd rather live on a farm, working for people that I like, than in a city, working for business jerks.
-When Daruko shows up, and we hmmm....
murder him.... it's better (legally) if we all share the responsibility
IRL we'll probably all hate each other
also, this is a problem for any starting cult:
too many cult leaders, not enough cultists
Okay okay okay
how about a network of miniature cultmmunes
there'll be a few scattered around the country, maybe even a few in Canada
each one will be disguised as a plain vanilla white people-filled suburban cul-de-sac in a relatively out-of-the-way locale. The really weird shit will be hidden behind trees or underground
this way, there's a place to go to and stay even if IRL flamefests make it undesirable to continue living in one particular cultmmune.
Quote from: Cramulus on August 20, 2009, 01:02:25 PM
-as a group sharing a physical location, we could pull off some really cool stuff. Like throwing parties, or mass pranks, or whatever.
Quote
I think as an actual commune-ity we will either bash eachother's heads in, or turn into an ingrown-toenail type of smelly angry pissy sour grumpy wrinkly discordi hippie hipsters that also bash eachother's heads in.
Who are we gonna throw parties for? Ourselves? Won't that get old?
Somehow I see the throwing parties and mass pranks working much better if we would be a semi-co-localized group still living in society of people that are not on eachother's lip IRL every day and have a life outside of the community.
I mean, a weekly or bi-weekly meeting, like a club, with people living slightly closer together, exchanging posters and ideas, sharing stories about postering, handing out business cards and pranks, occasionally throwing the party or pulling off a larger mindfuck would seem much more productive.
Quote-I'm fucking sick of society! I'm starting to think that I'd rather live on a farm, working for people that I like, than in a city, working for business jerks.
I bet you'd hate this much, much more. And it would make you real sick, really quick.
Also, I happen to like society :) Maybe you could, um, see your current exploits and ideas for making money all sort of revolve around online business right? Selling books shirts and funny ideas. You can do that from anywhere where you got an internet connection. So go somewhere cheaper to live, simple! Except .. Chloe probably has some business in the city, no? See that's why I dont call it BIP, or Shrapnel or Network, but Tangled-up Mess.
There's this word in Dutch "ploeteren", which means something like "to drag on", "to toil" or "to barely come by" or "to just manage to keep your head above the water" and stuff like that. I have a book, I haven't actually read it but the title is "ontploeteren", which is the undoing of that verb. Like unraveling the Tangled Up Mess. "to untoil" doesnt really have the same ring.
That's what you need to do though. Untangle that shit. You can't really take a step to solve the one, because the other thing prevents you to, which you cannot solve because that other thing cannot something with the thing thing, you dig? I (still) dont know enough about your situation to tell you what to do though, but the trick is to snap the proper chewing gum strings with surgical precision for maximum effect while strengthening others and make sacrifices, but only the right ones that will get you to your goal. Which you need to pinpoint. And keep in mind. And make sure that goal is so rock-solid and uncompromising that the world shapes around it. Or something. This is extremely vague, apologies, hit me on AIM if you wanna talk about it, I don't mind listening.
this isn't the cram's stupid life thread
I just want to start a cult :argh!:
if you like society so much, go live there
me, I'm done with it
if I start to hate you jerks, I'll just lock the door on my cabana
and my monkey butler will mix me gin* and tonic** after gin* and tonic**
*read: moonshine
*read: moar moonshine
I think we should all move to Nigel's house.
She has a nectarine tree AND chickens!!
How do we minimize the potential for it to turn into "Animal Farm"? If no one has yet written a book on communal living sucess, it could be a valuable group project of this endeavor.
Quote from: Squid on August 20, 2009, 04:37:24 PM
I think we should all move to Nigel's house.
She has a nectarine tree AND chickens!!
I have a traffic cone I can bring!
I have a feeling this is going to end like Waco
If I have any say in it, yes.
Waco AND Jim Jones' compound. Lets not do ourselves a disservice here, its well within our means to do both.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 20, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: Squid on August 20, 2009, 04:37:24 PM
I think we should all move to Nigel's house.
She has a nectarine tree AND chickens!!
I have a traffic cone I can bring!
Yes!
So, Cram brings up a good point, which is that Discordia is comprised of cult leaders, not cult followers. However, I suspect that given enough space and independence, we would all get along a lot better than might be suspected. I think everyone should move to Oregon and we can buy an old convent, and run it as the first ever Discordian monastery/retreat/art center. We can make money by using the grounds for weddings and events, growing wine grapes, teaching classes, and charging minimal rent to occupants, which need not be us. Some of us could live there if we wanted to, and best of all, it would be a tax shelter.
I bet I could find one for less than $800k. Split sixteen ways, that's only $50k each, and I know two people off the top of my head who would be into this.
What do you say?
Cram, I bet we could get licensed as a distillery.
Nigel is brilliant.
Say when.
SRSLY.
Even if I could relocate and greyface job, I'd be psyched if that was the living setup I got to go home to.
I would be totally easy to live with.
None of you would ever get sick of me.
Quote from: Richter on August 20, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
SRSLY.
Even if I could relocate and greyface job, I'd be psyched if that was the living setup I got to go home to.
¿SYNTAX?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 20, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
I would be totally easy to live with.
None of you would ever get sick of me.
Until you laced our food with ipecac to make sure we got sick :sad:
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: Richter on August 20, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
SRSLY.
Even if I could relocate and greyface job, I'd be psyched if that was the living setup I got to go home to.
¿SYNTAX?
I'm on coffee # 8. My thoughts have surpassed the need for such things.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 20, 2009, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 20, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
I would be totally easy to live with.
None of you would ever get sick of me.
Until you laced our food with ipecac to make sure we got sick :sad:
How did you know about that? :lulz: I haven't talked about that in years.
DCup is a veritable font of ancient wisdom.
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:11:18 PM
DCup is a veritable font of ancient wisdom.
Also, I don't do it to make people sick. I do it to purge their systems of toxins.
:)
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FLOURIDE AND THE PRECIOUS BODILY ESSENCES!?
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:15:26 PM
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FLOURIDE AND THE PRECIOUS BODILY ESSENCES!?
Blarg. There's NOTHING wrong with ANY of you that couldn't be cured with epicac and lexapro.
I'll look into the cost of shackles.
Looks like we'll need those 5 gallon buckets of astroglide after all.
Best. Cult. EVER.
Too many leaders? Consensus decision making. Nothing gets done until everyone agrees it gets done. That ought to keep things running smoothly.
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
Looks like we'll need those 5 gallon buckets of astroglide after all.
Bah, the best lube is good ol' fashioned elbow grease.
Quote from: Nasturtiums on August 20, 2009, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
Looks like we'll need those 5 gallon buckets of astroglide after all.
Bah, the best lube is good ol' fashioned elbow grease.
Do you know how
difficult it is to milk an elbow?
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
Looks like we'll need those 5 gallon buckets of astroglide after all.
That's okay, because I'm up for
any program!
We need to be as close as possible to a Legislator's country home.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 20, 2009, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 20, 2009, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 20, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
I would be totally easy to live with.
None of you would ever get sick of me.
Until you laced our food with ipecac to make sure we got sick :sad:
How did you know about that? :lulz: I haven't talked about that in years.
I've drank enough coffee today to become prophetic.
Interestingly enough, soon it will reach levels of "I've drank enough coffee today to not need ipecac."
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Nasturtiums on August 20, 2009, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
Looks like we'll need those 5 gallon buckets of astroglide after all.
Bah, the best lube is good ol' fashioned elbow grease.
Do you know how difficult it is to milk an elbow?
Just get it drunk. It'll put out.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on August 20, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
Too many leaders? Consensus decision making. Nothing gets done until everyone agrees it gets done. That ought to keep things running smoothly.
The only thing we'll ever agree on is fapping.
And again, we return to the 5 gallon bucket of astroglide.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on August 20, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
Too many leaders? Consensus decision making. Nothing gets done until everyone agrees it gets done. That ought to keep things running smoothly.
Yeah, because NOBODY here is the kind of person who will flip the fuck out when they don't get their way. Even less when the vast majority doesn't get its way because of some jackass. Right.
I would totally spend a couple years in this place if it works btw. I don't really have practical skills, but I can maintain at least my own computer (others here are way ahead of me on networks administration) and given an Internet connection I can make money translating...
Actually, the one practical skill I could really contribute is running (chairing, moderating, Roberts' Rules style) democratic meetings, if we do those to avoid conflict. I have experience at it and I'm told I'm pretty good at it. Also other bureaucratic shit really, but I can kinda see how that kind of stuff won't really work for many of us.
Quote from: LMNO on August 20, 2009, 08:15:26 PM
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FLOURIDE AND THE PRECIOUS BODILY ESSENCES!?
Ice cream. LMNO! Children's Ice Cream!
I say we subvert an existing commune with all our wit and charm and natural abilities of persuasion, e.g. Alpha Farm (http://members.pioneer.net/~alpha/index.htm) looks nice, and there's a list of some more here:
http://nica.ic.org/iclist/
It would be a lot cheaper, and it also solves the problem of too many cult-leaders, and not enough cultists.
i would never actually join a commune with you spags btw :lol:
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on August 20, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
Too many leaders? Consensus decision making. Nothing gets done until everyone agrees it gets done. That ought to keep things running smoothly.
I know you meant this humorously, but I have to strongly urge against democratic voting in the commune, except for minor disputes and petty squabbles. Allowing majority rule would turn a Discordian Autonomous Zone into a U.S. microcosm.
I am on my 4th pot of coffee, so that's enough whining from the rest of you.
Quote from: ✡ Rabbi ✡ Fred ✡ on August 20, 2009, 10:05:20 PM
i would never actually join a commune with you spags btw :lol:
I would as long as I didn't have to share a bathroom.
Quote from: ✡ Rabbi ✡ Fred ✡ on August 20, 2009, 10:05:20 PM
i would never actually join a commune with you spags btw :lol:
That's good. If you and I had to share a house, the sheer concentration of sechsay would level the neighborhood.
Plus, you'd kill my ass in less than a day.
I'd totally join. I dunno about the dropping out of society thing, but I'm gonna have to pay rent/morgatge no matter where I go, so pitching in financially isn't that annoying.
Oh yeah, added to my skills, I used to do laundry professionally for a hotel.
I can make jewellery (sterling silver and gemstone stuff) chop vast amounts of veg without whinging. also have experience of cooking for loads of people (up to 30) and have helped build a round house.. Also dont mind helping in gardens and doing other useful shit.
Quote from: fictionpuss on August 20, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
I say we subvert an existing commune with all our wit and charm and natural abilities of persuasion, e.g. Alpha Farm (http://members.pioneer.net/~alpha/index.htm) looks nice, and there's a list of some more here:
http://nica.ic.org/iclist/
It would be a lot cheaper, and it also solves the problem of too many cult-leaders, and not enough cultists.
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: fictionpuss on August 20, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
I say we subvert an existing commune with all our wit and charm and natural abilities of persuasion, e.g. Alpha Farm (http://members.pioneer.net/~alpha/index.htm) looks nice, and there's a list of some more here:
http://nica.ic.org/iclist/
It would be a lot cheaper, and it also solves the problem of too many cult-leaders, and not enough cultists.
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
:mittens:
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: fictionpuss on August 20, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
I say we subvert an existing commune with all our wit and charm and natural abilities of persuasion, e.g. Alpha Farm (http://members.pioneer.net/~alpha/index.htm) looks nice, and there's a list of some more here:
http://nica.ic.org/iclist/
It would be a lot cheaper, and it also solves the problem of too many cult-leaders, and not enough cultists.
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
Even better.
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
same here.
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
And you know how well that normally ends.
8)
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: fictionpuss on August 20, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
I say we subvert an existing commune with all our wit and charm and natural abilities of persuasion, e.g. Alpha Farm (http://members.pioneer.net/~alpha/index.htm) looks nice, and there's a list of some more here:
http://nica.ic.org/iclist/
It would be a lot cheaper, and it also solves the problem of too many cult-leaders, and not enough cultists.
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
It's ON.
Seriously though, if I ever have enough money/backers I'm going to start a church or monastery.
Burns will piss in their compost piles!!
AND VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN!!!!
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: fictionpuss on August 20, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
I say we subvert an existing commune with all our wit and charm and natural abilities of persuasion, e.g. Alpha Farm (http://members.pioneer.net/~alpha/index.htm) looks nice, and there's a list of some more here:
http://nica.ic.org/iclist/
It would be a lot cheaper, and it also solves the problem of too many cult-leaders, and not enough cultists.
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
Thinking too small, again. First off, we want to become a cult, without all the associated ATF shoot-outs and mass suicides, which is just lame.
Now we're talking about invading communes instead of micro-countries. Tuvalu has a population of 12,000, and so long as all relevant interested parties got what they wanted (ie banks, organised crime, selling the .tv domain and letting Japan buy your whaling vote) I doubt anyone would give a shit.
And it is a
sovereign nation, with all the rights that entails. Ie; diplomatic immunity.
Oh, and Fiji and Samoa are nearby. AKA Oceanic coup central.
Of course we all have to have our race changed first because otherwise someone might think we're colonising them!
Can we pave the road/driveway leading to our commune in bones?
also I want a tavern made of bones and I will drink blood out of a skull
Buchenwald Lampshades?
Quote from: [uV*] on August 21, 2009, 08:40:41 AM
Of course we all have to have our race changed first because otherwise someone might think we're colonising them!
I don't! Haha!
Tuvalu is sinking, so I think we might need a long-term plan.
Or maybe taking over a sinking nation IS the long-term plan.
Shit floats, and we're full of it. We'll be fine.
Quote from: [uV*] on August 21, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
Shit floats, and we're full of it. We'll be fine.
Hell, by that standard, I am an aircraft carrier.
You can all live on my floating carcass, and use my back hair for lumber.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 21, 2009, 04:19:55 PM
Tuvalu is sinking, so I think we might need a long-term plan.
Or maybe taking over a sinking nation IS the long-term plan.
We us Tuvalu as a base to undermine Fiji. And from there, we move onto the next big prize - Samoa.
Before you know it, a fledgling Discordian empire will be spread across the South Pacific, stretching from Papua New Guinea to the Galapogos. We shall call it the South Pacific Co-Prosperity Sphere.
We begin memebombing in five minutes.
Fuck memebombing, gimme a gun.
after reading this thread, I've decided there's no way I'm joining a cult with you spags, especially if it requires me to contribute my skills and live with you all.
however...
as you will all be very clearly fucked if you actually try to do this without proper guidance, my services as a consultant and general expert shall be made available for the low low price of free room and board and daily access to the stash of cult concubines. To make things even easier for you, I'm already moving to Oregon.
That said, cain's idea FTW. Nice beaches are nice.
i would suggest joining a pre-existing commune, then getting everyone really drunk and stoned and once they are passed out ( if some stay standing MAKE THEM PASS OUT ) draw a picture of the starbucks symbol inside-out on their nipples.
then you convince them that theyve all been brainwashed by eviil aliens and have also been infected with highly contagious cancer zombie syndrome,
then giving you an excuse to convince them all to jump down a well
hey-presto free commune free buildings SORTED! :|
but then again now i think about it...
do us a favor.
stop trying to be funny until you figure out how to be successful at it.
oh im sorry is my suggestion not good enough for you
No. It sucked actually.
hmm i think it would work better if i just pushed them down a well tho, im to lazy for all the other bits and parties are expensive
Quote from: StoneCrowUK on August 23, 2009, 10:35:50 PM
hmm i think it would work better if i just pushed them down a well tho, im to lazy for all the other bits and parties are expensive
Are you any good at digging holes?
im better with holes someone else dug,
Well, unfortunately, no hole is deep enough.
You can now add shitty (but ambidextrous!) blacksmithing to my list of skills.
I know enough chemistry and computers to assist those more talented. Also reasonably skilled at carpentry, but I learned woodworking at a stage crew for a theatre company - I can make things that look like comfortable pieces of furniture from the front row if your main attention is on the singing dancing people. Also, good at digging trenches - useful for irrigation systems?
Other than that my main skills are customer service (you'd be surprised how much holding your their customers in contempt helps,) data entry... and working with young children. I can cook bread given a bread machine.
I wouldn't want to join a commune full-time, but it would be an interesting thing to do while college is out for the summer. Wouldn't have any money, though.
Forget being a licensed brewery - we could be a licensed daycare center! "Discordian Daycare - Sharing is For Sissies"
DAYCARE.
YES.
LETS DO THAT!
But I hate kids.
YEAH. YOU HEARD ME.
I fail to see how that precludes us from running a daycare. Or, for that matter, why being a daycare should stop us from also being licensed brewers.
It'd work.
Kids love stomping grapes.
I couldnt live in the same commune as payne.. my liver would divorce me. :lulz:
carpentry, brewing, botanical science (specialising in Entheogenics), carpentry, metalwork, electronics, art, theatre, etc, etc. Am a Stage Manager, so a bit of a Jack of all trades, anything I don't know, I know a guy who does. Also, that British charm.
I think that if the commune should become a Micronation, then build a wall around the outside and perpetuate myths of hyperdrugs and ultrasex to raise intreague.
Actually, I see it ending up like the Creedish in Survivor. With all of us dead and the land being a Porno disposal site.
Say...what is this...ultrasex you speak of? *tweaks moustache*
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
We gonna dump truckloads of photographs on their farm?
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 24, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
We gonna dump truckloads of photographs on their farm?
No. Goatse crop circles.
Quote from: Payne on August 24, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 24, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
We gonna dump truckloads of photographs on their farm?
No. Goatse crop circles.
Or we could just bring pent and get them very drunk. That would ruin everyone.
goatse crop circles would be funny also.
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 24, 2009, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 24, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 24, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
We gonna dump truckloads of photographs on their farm?
No. Goatse crop circles.
Or we could just bring pent and get them very drunk. That would ruin everyone.
goatse crop circles would be funny also.
Rev. Uncle BadTouch would fit right in.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 24, 2009, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 24, 2009, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 24, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 24, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
We gonna dump truckloads of photographs on their farm?
No. Goatse crop circles.
Or we could just bring pent and get them very drunk. That would ruin everyone.
goatse crop circles would be funny also.
Rev. Uncle BadTouch would fit right in.
wut
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2009, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 24, 2009, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 24, 2009, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 24, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 24, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: Risus on August 21, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 21, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Fuck yeah, we could take over Zendik farm in an afternoon.
I can only picture this as a real life mass boarding of another forum.
And you know how well that normally ends.
We gonna dump truckloads of photographs on their farm?
No. Goatse crop circles.
Or we could just bring pent and get them very drunk. That would ruin everyone.
goatse crop circles would be funny also.
Rev. Uncle BadTouch would fit right in.
wut
http://community.livejournal.com/zendik/1678.html
QuoteHmmm. My sister was lured into the lovely little Zendik Farm cult when she was barely 17 years old. Some guys from the farm met her at a concert in Dallas and pursuaded her to leave with them THAT NIGHT, claiming she didn't need to tell our parents, she could call them later once they got to the farm (about five hours away from us). Through some quick detective work, we found out she'd gone to this place and found a phone number from someone else who'd been approached that night. By the time we called her, they'd already brainwashed her into thinking THEY were her family and life would be so pleasant there on their little "farm" where some old fart named Wulf sat around having sex with underage girls while everyone else slave-labored outside or in the kitchen. It's a freakin' commune! Why do you think they keep moving?!
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/archive/index.php/t-4937-p-2.html
Quoteearlier in the thread a seemingly intellegent enough sincere male wrote a number of emails with no response. then a 16 year old girl wrote one and got a very enthusiastic "come on out, this is the place for you" response within an hour. although part of the journey to spiritual freedom is to remove our attachments to possesions, the demand of all of them when you join, and the apparently random booting out of people. the slave labor and oriental despotism in the leadership of this cultmune, the intimidating coercive approach to get underage trouble girls to submit to sex with more established members of the cult.
Okay, Jerry, you ruined the joke.
Yay for you.
Oh well. Nothing lasts forever.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 25, 2009, 04:25:14 AM
Oh well. Nothing lasts forever.
No, because there's always some fuckwit who thinks he's funny.
Ass burgers ITT.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 03:02:48 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on August 25, 2009, 04:25:14 AM
Oh well. Nothing lasts forever.
No, because there's always some fuckwit who thinks he's funny.
Ass burgers ITT.
Now I want a bacon cheeseburger.
I had this really good one a while back with mushrooms and onions and the bacon was cracked black pepper bacon and it was so goddamn delicious...
STOP TALKING ABOUT BURGERS
Every citizen shall have the right to a burger....in the future South Pacific Co-Prosperity Sphere.
FREEDOM! DEMOCRACY! AND FRIES WITH THAT!
Quote from: Cain on August 25, 2009, 03:10:24 PM
Every citizen shall have the right to a burger....in the future South Pacific Co-Prosperity Sphere.
FREEDOM! DEMOCRACY! AND FRIES WITH THAT!
SUPERSIZE ME, O GLORIOUS LEADER!
Obama: "Americans look to their leaders for change, a direction they can beleive in, and cheezburgrs. Americans, I say to you, YOU. CAN. HAS."
[/LOLCATOBAMA]
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I seriously expected Obama to say that throughout the campaign.
Also: Have we considered old factory space for this commune thing? It'd be a toss up as far as start up cost whether it would be more / less than some old country joint, and being in a city / industrial area would mess with self - sufficiency. "Artist's collectives" get us all kinds of slack and subsidized rent from cities that want to artifically inflate their culture penis. (Usually in one of the not - so good areas of town.) From there we just need to show product, put on stuff, and paint everything with shitty murals. Bitching about low carbon footprint, greenhouse, and doing as much as possible out of "Make" or "Instructables" couldn't hurt either.
Quote from: Richter on August 25, 2009, 04:04:29 PM
I seriously expected Obama to say that throughout the campaign.
Also: Have we considered old factory space for this commune thing? It'd be a toss up as far as start up cost whether it would be more / less than some old country joint, and being in a city / industrial area would mess with self - sufficiency. "Artist's collectives" get us all kinds of slack and subsidized rent from cities that want to artifically inflate their culture penis. (Usually in one of the not - so good areas of town.) From there we just need to show product, put on stuff, and paint everything with shitty murals. Bitching about low carbon footprint, greenhouse, and doing as much as possible out of "Make" or "Instructables" couldn't hurt either.
And then we lead an army of bums, crazies, drunks, ex-politicians, transients and everyone else who has dropped or is dropping off the bottom rung of society on an epic jihad against the entire city, claiming city hall within a day or two and electing everyone mayor (they'll get a card to prove it) thus creating the very first fully Discordian city in history?
Take pics cause then it's
ART.
Exactly, but we need to incorporate more intellecutal prolapse.
Just more prolapse, full stop.
It isn't Discordian without an over reliance on prolapse.
Oh, I just found out what you mean by intellectual prolapse from reading the relevant thread.
Yes, we do need more of that. Perhaps a post-revolution interrogation technique that crushes peoples minds with memebombs until the mind inverts itself out of their ears?
It's an unexplored field, the possibilities are wide open and flaccidly hanging out of relevant openings.
Anything from a carpet bombing approach to memes to trying to pass off inverted anus - print bedskirts as a trendy thign to have could go.
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 04:21:27 PM
Oh, I just found out what you mean by intellectual prolapse from reading the relevant thread.
Yes, we do need more of that. Perhaps a post-revolution interrogation technique that crushes peoples minds with memebombs until the mind inverts itself out of their ears?
yes.. this is WIN.
maybe a commune is too much maybe first a discordian block of flats somewhere, and then the profits could pay towards it?
Quote from: StoneCrowUK on August 25, 2009, 06:06:18 PM
maybe a commune is too much maybe first a discordian block of flats somewhere, and then the profits could pay towards it?
Your rationality has no place here. If we're doing, we're doing the whole nine yards (probably up our collective butts, no less).
Crazy? THIS IS PEEDEE.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:12:33 PM
Quote from: StoneCrowUK on August 25, 2009, 06:06:18 PM
maybe a commune is too much maybe first a discordian block of flats somewhere, and then the profits could pay towards it?
Your rationality has no place here. If we're doing, we're doing the whole nine yards (probably up our collective butts, no less).
Crazy? THIS IS PEEDEE.
Essentially:
Homer "Max Power" Simpson: There are three ways to things; The RIGHT way, The WRONG way and the MAX POWER way!
Bart: Isn't that the same as the wrong way?
Homer: Yes, but
faster.
Doing something in any way that is not BATSHIT INSANE is boring.
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:12:33 PM
Quote from: StoneCrowUK on August 25, 2009, 06:06:18 PM
maybe a commune is too much maybe first a discordian block of flats somewhere, and then the profits could pay towards it?
Your rationality has no place here. If we're doing, we're doing the whole nine yards (probably up our collective butts, no less).
Crazy? THIS IS PEEDEE.
Essentially:
Homer "Max Power" Simpson: There are three ways to things; The RIGHT way, The WRONG way and the MAX POWER way!
Bart: Isn't that the same as the wrong way?
Homer: Yes, but faster.
:sotw:
I'll bring the rum and some serious smoking kit, lets start early. :lulz:
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 25, 2009, 07:20:12 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:12:33 PM
Quote from: StoneCrowUK on August 25, 2009, 06:06:18 PM
maybe a commune is too much maybe first a discordian block of flats somewhere, and then the profits could pay towards it?
Your rationality has no place here. If we're doing, we're doing the whole nine yards (probably up our collective butts, no less).
Crazy? THIS IS PEEDEE.
Essentially:
Homer "Max Power" Simpson: There are three ways to things; The RIGHT way, The WRONG way and the MAX POWER way!
Bart: Isn't that the same as the wrong way?
Homer: Yes, but faster.
:sotw:
I'll bring the rum and some serious smoking kit, lets start early. :lulz:
I'll just stand outside looking in the window, like Dondi.
:argh!:
there used to be a compound on the edge of salt lake city that the poligamists abandoned, it had a lot of buildings and all the houses had secret tunnels and hidden rooms already built in, i wonder if its still for sale?
Quote from: fomenter on August 25, 2009, 07:23:17 PM
there used to be a compound on the edge of salt lake city that the poligamists abandoned, it had a lot of buildings and all the houses had secret tunnels and hidden rooms already built in, i wonder if its still for sale?
It'll be haunted by Mormons.
Try again.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:21:23 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 25, 2009, 07:20:12 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:12:33 PM
Quote from: StoneCrowUK on August 25, 2009, 06:06:18 PM
maybe a commune is too much maybe first a discordian block of flats somewhere, and then the profits could pay towards it?
Your rationality has no place here. If we're doing, we're doing the whole nine yards (probably up our collective butts, no less).
Crazy? THIS IS PEEDEE.
Essentially:
Homer "Max Power" Simpson: There are three ways to things; The RIGHT way, The WRONG way and the MAX POWER way!
Bart: Isn't that the same as the wrong way?
Homer: Yes, but faster.
:sotw:
I'll bring the rum and some serious smoking kit, lets start early. :lulz:
I'll just stand outside looking in the window, like Dondi.
:argh!:
No you won't, you'll be throwing frozen bricks of shit through the window, then a molotov cocktail.
You'll be naked except for a fluorescent green tutu and a weed-spraying style backpack filled with unspeakable lubricants.
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
No you won't, you'll be throwing frozen bricks of shit through the window, then a molotov cocktail.
You'll be naked except for a fluorescent green tutu and a weed-spraying style backpack filled with unspeakable lubricants.
Yeah, well...yeah.
i think we should think bigger and go for an entire fucking village somewhere, therefore those who want to stick apart can, and the village pub would be propped up by P3nt.
also if we had to house share occasionally you could move someone into another house for the lulz.
Come home from the pub, find someone has moved you into a house with PAYNE!
also-
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
No you won't, you'll be throwing frozen bricks of shit through the window, then a molotov cocktail.
You'll be naked except for a fluorescent green tutu and a weed-spraying style backpack filled with unspeakable lubricants.
Yeah, well...yeah.
l :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
No you won't, you'll be throwing frozen bricks of shit through the window, then a molotov cocktail.
You'll be naked except for a fluorescent green tutu and a weed-spraying style backpack filled with unspeakable lubricants.
Yeah, well...yeah.
That's TGRR-ese for "standing outside looking in the window."
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
No you won't, you'll be throwing frozen bricks of shit through the window, then a molotov cocktail.
You'll be naked except for a fluorescent green tutu and a weed-spraying style backpack filled with unspeakable lubricants.
Yeah, well...yeah.
That's TGRR-ese for "standing outside looking in the window."
You can tell it's me, because it looks like a green tutu over a hairball your cat sicked up. Only with a bald head.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
No you won't, you'll be throwing frozen bricks of shit through the window, then a molotov cocktail.
You'll be naked except for a fluorescent green tutu and a weed-spraying style backpack filled with unspeakable lubricants.
Yeah, well...yeah.
That's TGRR-ese for "standing outside looking in the window."
You can tell it's me, because it looks like a green tutu over a hairball your cat sicked up. Only with a bald head.
The great thing about you is that whether we stand you on your feet or on your head, there's a bald asshole giving us the evil eye.
I respect a person with that kind of capacity for providing different approaches to solving a problem.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
The great thing about you is that whether we stand you on your feet or on your head, there's a bald asshole giving us the evil eye.
Incorrect. If I'm standing on my head, you have the Captain from Tintin giving you the evil eye.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
The great thing about you is that whether we stand you on your feet or on your head, there's a bald asshole giving us the evil eye.
Incorrect. If I'm standing on my head, you have the Captain from Tintin giving you the evil eye.
:x
I just had to think about Roger's Captain Haddock!
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
The great thing about you is that whether we stand you on your feet or on your head, there's a bald asshole giving us the evil eye.
Incorrect. If I'm standing on my head, you have the Captain from Tintin giving you the evil eye.
:x
I just had to think about Roger's Captain Haddock!
I'm fairly certain that means I win.
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
The great thing about you is that whether we stand you on your feet or on your head, there's a bald asshole giving us the evil eye.
Incorrect. If I'm standing on my head, you have the Captain from Tintin giving you the evil eye.
:x
I just had to think about Roger's Captain Haddock!
That means you got scrod. :rimshot:
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 25, 2009, 07:39:37 PM
The great thing about you is that whether we stand you on your feet or on your head, there's a bald asshole giving us the evil eye.
Incorrect. If I'm standing on my head, you have the Captain from Tintin giving you the evil eye.
:x
I just had to think about Roger's Captain Haddock!
poor Payne... :lulz:
A few hours ago we were here:
Quote from: Cain on August 25, 2009, 03:16:18 PM
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How much farther have we gone?
Have we fallen?
Is there a difference?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
Quote from: fomenter on August 25, 2009, 07:23:17 PM
there used to be a compound on the edge of salt lake city that the poligamists abandoned, it had a lot of buildings and all the houses had secret tunnels and hidden rooms already built in, i wonder if its still for sale?
It'll be haunted by Mormons.
Try again.
Yeah, but the Mormons will have to put up with seeing us having fun. Forever.
Quote from: Cain on August 25, 2009, 09:03:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
Quote from: fomenter on August 25, 2009, 07:23:17 PM
there used to be a compound on the edge of salt lake city that the poligamists abandoned, it had a lot of buildings and all the houses had secret tunnels and hidden rooms already built in, i wonder if its still for sale?
It'll be haunted by Mormons.
Try again.
Yeah, but the Mormons will have to put up with seeing us having fun. Forever.
But every time you try to sleep, the fuckers will knock on the door.
Mormon Ghosts? I have cats, preent and past, who love missionaries. Like Roger says, they'd never be able to eat a whole one though.
Quote from: Cain on August 25, 2009, 09:03:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 25, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
Quote from: fomenter on August 25, 2009, 07:23:17 PM
there used to be a compound on the edge of salt lake city that the poligamists abandoned, it had a lot of buildings and all the houses had secret tunnels and hidden rooms already built in, i wonder if its still for sale?
It'll be haunted by Mormons.
Try again.
Yeah, but the Mormons will have to put up with seeing us having fun. Forever.
we should have badge look into it, if i remember correctly it was an entire subdivision with dozens of large houses a school/community buildings of some sort, a park with a play ground for kids etc it looked like a cool setup and it had a typical American neighbourhood look to it not the weird cult look you would expect it to have
the missionary's might be a down side but they might be fun to mess with to (they only hit my house once a year when i lived in Utah )
Where's it at? Salt Lake City's a pretty big place.
Quote from: Payne on August 25, 2009, 04:17:38 PM
Just more prolapse, full stop.
It isn't Discordian without an over reliance on prolapse.
:fap:
I'd just like to remind everyone of the time a cult bought Antelope, Oregon.
They're already used to it, we could go take over where the Rajneeshis left off.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on August 25, 2009, 09:41:33 PM
Where's it at? Salt Lake City's a pretty big place.
i dont know it could be up against the mountains in some valley somewhere possibly on the south part of salt lake, but i really dont know, i remember it being in the news, and it being in some 48 hours type show where they walked around the empty compound/neighborhood with cameras and looked into the secret extra wife hiding rooms and escape tunnels, on the outside it just looked like a ordinary subdivision, i cant remember which polig group but it was a smaller one and they ended up leaving the place when their shit hit the fan
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 25, 2009, 07:31:32 PM
i think we should think bigger and go for an entire fucking village somewhere, therefore those who want to stick apart can, and the village pub P3nt would be propped up by P3nt the village pub.
Fixt for troof.
Currently Otis, Oregon is for sale for $3 million.
No housing in it though (according to wiki) so it might be easier to start with cheaper land.
The mormon compound is only an option if we make beer on it, to keep the ghosts away.
Quote from: Reverend Smeg the Kilted on August 25, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 25, 2009, 07:31:32 PM
i think we should think bigger and go for an entire fucking village somewhere, therefore those who want to stick apart can, and the village pub P3nt would be propped up by P3nt the village pub.
Fixt for troof.
it was funnier the first way around, because it implied that the pub would fall down without P3nt.
Hey, guys! I bet we could totally get cheap real estate in Detroit.
:horrormirth:
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on August 26, 2009, 05:38:38 AM
Hey, guys! I bet we could totally get cheap real estate in Detroit.
:horrormirth:
/me doubles Cain's proposal for total gun ownership.
That is actually a good plan. Buy a shitload of guns and move to Detroit. As the city progressively collapses we can grow and eventually rename the city to something silly that suits our fancy.
:fap:
Quote from: VERBtr on August 26, 2009, 10:22:43 AM
That is actually a good plan. Buy a shitload of guns and move to Detroit. As the city progressively collapses we can grow and eventually rename the city to something silly that suits our fancy.
:fap:
Retroit.
Bartertown.
The City.
Or we could rename all the streets either "14th" or "Minna".
(Oh Wont You Take Me To) Funkytown!
That is the full name, of course.
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 11:00:31 AM
(Oh Wont You Take Me To) Funkytown!
That is the full name, of course.
would our city limits say "Welcome, please enjoy (Oh Wont You Take Me To) Funkytown!, Don't forget to bring a towel."
Quote from: Richter on August 25, 2009, 04:04:29 PM
I seriously expected Obama to say that throughout the campaign.
Also: Have we considered old factory space for this commune thing? It'd be a toss up as far as start up cost whether it would be more / less than some old country joint, and being in a city / industrial area would mess with self - sufficiency. "Artist's collectives" get us all kinds of slack and subsidized rent from cities that want to artifically inflate their culture penis. (Usually in one of the not - so good areas of town.) From there we just need to show product, put on stuff, and paint everything with shitty murals. Bitching about low carbon footprint, greenhouse, and doing as much as possible out of "Make" or "Instructables" couldn't hurt either.
Does this mean that we'd get tax cuts/subsidies for postergasm?
Do you think they'd let us put up memebombs on one of the big scrolly screens?
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on August 26, 2009, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: Richter on August 25, 2009, 04:04:29 PM
I seriously expected Obama to say that throughout the campaign.
Also: Have we considered old factory space for this commune thing? It'd be a toss up as far as start up cost whether it would be more / less than some old country joint, and being in a city / industrial area would mess with self - sufficiency. "Artist's collectives" get us all kinds of slack and subsidized rent from cities that want to artifically inflate their culture penis. (Usually in one of the not - so good areas of town.) From there we just need to show product, put on stuff, and paint everything with shitty murals. Bitching about low carbon footprint, greenhouse, and doing as much as possible out of "Make" or "Instructables" couldn't hurt either.
Does this mean that we'd get tax cuts/subsidies for postergasm?
Do you think they'd let us put up memebombs on one of the big scrolly screens?
actually if its a big enough space with some outdoors, we could be partially self sufficient as growing food in urban areas is acheiveable, just takes a bit more planning. there are ways to take a 12ft square and make it produce food all year round pretty much., get enough space for about 10 of those, or planters and stuff, well its feasable to be able to grow some food.
And some of us would really benefit from the studio space, however in urban areas with all this cool stuff going on we would need plenty of security.
I need electricity, and plenty of it, if "DISCORDIAN SOUND LABS" is going to be able to function.
Silversmithing space would be groovy, also, but im pretty sure I could share a space with Nigel and her glass bead making.
I like the concept of an urban warehouse/factory type space. "Artist communes" or whatever can generally get tax sheltering and all kinds of neat things.
Food would be an issue--we could do a combination of food and any number of part-time employment set-ups to help fund things. For example, I could work part time at a grocery store, so as to bring in some money, but then also be the designated grocery purchaser so that my discount would make things that we couldn't produce on our own more affordable (milk, flour, etc). Someone else might work at Home Depot or some such. By working something like 20 hours per week, we can get some income, a discount to take advantage of, and, depending on the place, health benefits (I like health care).
Then again, I just happen to like urban living.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 26, 2009, 03:50:23 PM
I like the concept of an urban warehouse/factory type space. "Artist communes" or whatever can generally get tax sheltering and all kinds of neat things.
Food would be an issue--we could do a combination of food and any number of part-time employment set-ups to help fund things. For example, I could work part time at a grocery store, so as to bring in some money, but then also be the designated grocery purchaser so that my discount would make things that we couldn't produce on our own more affordable (milk, flour, etc). Someone else might work at Home Depot or some such. By working something like 20 hours per week, we can get some income, a discount to take advantage of, and, depending on the place, health benefits (I like health care).
Then again, I just happen to like urban living.
income could be had from running parties and events also, as well as craft workshops.
Aside from writing, political analysis, basic housekeeping, basic cooking, sleeping, hitting people, setting up/bypassing physical security systems, lying, cheating, stealing and general paranoia I have no useful skills.
Urban would have the advantages of easier access to stuff, services, etc., which could make up for the loss of a open land / wooded buffer zone between the Discordian folks and anyone else who may care. (Which an old factory building could provide too.)
The extra work is also the correct idea, it would help keep income and health care around, beyond the employee discount idea.
Setting up inside unused warehouses and factories also opens the possibility of repeating the same pattern in many major cities where manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas (read: a lot of them).
Essentially, Discordians could take over the Rust Belt regions of multiple states.
Also, following up on the Detroit idea specifically because Iason was kidding: http://www.loopnet.com/property/14726566/4423-Humbolt/
45,745 square feet for $150,000 :lulz: What's wrong with it, you ask? "Needs lots of work including electrical, plumbing, and roof work." I'll bet!
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 26, 2009, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 26, 2009, 03:50:23 PM
I like the concept of an urban warehouse/factory type space. "Artist communes" or whatever can generally get tax sheltering and all kinds of neat things.
Food would be an issue--we could do a combination of food and any number of part-time employment set-ups to help fund things. For example, I could work part time at a grocery store, so as to bring in some money, but then also be the designated grocery purchaser so that my discount would make things that we couldn't produce on our own more affordable (milk, flour, etc). Someone else might work at Home Depot or some such. By working something like 20 hours per week, we can get some income, a discount to take advantage of, and, depending on the place, health benefits (I like health care).
Then again, I just happen to like urban living.
income could be had from running parties and events also, as well as craft workshops.
Oh yes! That could be fun.
OMG. Could you imagine having a giant hall type thing, like a big central room, where people could basically host events? Like wedding receptions, or big corporate meetings or whatever. We'd provide food (everything is better with cupcakes and boozecookies), the decor would be whatever weird shit we're churning out at the time... We could totally market it as some sort of hippy dippy thing.
Okay, there has GOT to be a struggling urban area with old mills/warehouses/factories/whatever that we could obtain that would be interested in "a vibrant up-and-coming artist collective"...
I mean, other than Lowell. There's got to be one that doesn't suck.
this is getting serious, but good ! its a brilliant idea.
( my suggestion for making money would be to create small plastic accessory products (for fishing ect.) because with the equipment these things can be made for pennies and then sold for a relatively large profit. ) i know this is boring but it could provide a backbone.
Quote from: Cainad on August 26, 2009, 04:03:48 PM
Also, following up on the Detroit idea specifically because Iason was kidding: http://www.loopnet.com/property/14726566/4423-Humbolt/
it says # Lot Size:21,852 SF now what does that mean , is that the carpark??
Quote from: StoneCrowUK on August 26, 2009, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 26, 2009, 04:03:48 PM
Also, following up on the Detroit idea specifically because Iason was kidding: http://www.loopnet.com/property/14726566/4423-Humbolt/
it says # Lot Size:21,852 SF now what does that mean , is that the carpark??
That would presumably include the carpark, yes. That's the area of land upon which the property is built.
Seperating living space and public space might prove tricksy...
anyone here with any construction skills? Or will we just have tents indoors?
Also I have mad scrounging and trashpicking skills.
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 26, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
Seperating living space and public space might prove tricksy...
anyone here with any construction skills? Or will we just have tents indoors?
Richter has some skillz, and I've been an assistant to a fair few carpentry/building projects. Also, duct tape, tarps, plywood, and nails ftw.
I'm generally inclined to be helpful with such projects, and do research on urban food growing, and having done 3 weeks on a Permaculture site I have helped build this (http://greenguysglobal.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/p1040603.JPG) and have lots of friends who know loads more on this sort of thing.
the edible roof garden is cool also.
I am now suspicious that you're all actually a bunch of smelly hippies.
I just like to play with power tools.
I'm not saying I've got skills with 'em, but I like to collect them and then see what otherwise innocent tasks I can perform with them.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 26, 2009, 04:33:21 PM
I just like to play with power tools.
I'm not saying I've got skills with 'em, but I like to collect them and then see what otherwise innocent tasks I can perform with them.
Where have you been all my life? :fap:
Quote from: LMNO on August 26, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
I am now suspicious that you're all actually a bunch of smelly hippies.
Worse - we're not, but we
want to be.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 26, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 26, 2009, 04:33:21 PM
I just like to play with power tools.
I'm not saying I've got skills with 'em, but I like to collect them and then see what otherwise innocent tasks I can perform with them.
Where have you been all my life? :fap:
Very busy seeing if limbs can be severed using the sanding attachment on a Dremel.
PRO-TIP: Yes, they can, but you have to keep changing the head because it wears down pretty quickly.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 26, 2009, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 26, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 26, 2009, 04:33:21 PM
I just like to play with power tools.
I'm not saying I've got skills with 'em, but I like to collect them and then see what otherwise innocent tasks I can perform with them.
Where have you been all my life? :fap:
Very busy seeing if limbs can be severed using the sanding attachment on a Dremel.
PRO-TIP: Yes, they can, but you have to keep changing the head because it wears down pretty quickly.
PROTIP: Use a router. You can scallop the edges of the stump.
It's very decorative, and looks nice at the holidays.
Cainad and myself have both been on hand for a fair bit of contracting / contructions work, so we could suss most of it out.
The mental image I'm getting from this, (mashed up with my own prexisting ideas) would basically be part of the building paritioned off into rooms with sheetrock, plywood, and insulation for living / cooking / bathrooms. This would be the only part we both to run liveable heat, electricity, or plumbing to, which would keep costs down. Even if the roof of the place leaks to all hell, we could still roof, gutter, and waterproof inside as needed.
If we found a place with a corrugated metal roof, we can patch and replace sections as needed to get it solid. While we could ALMOST do the same with a gravel + asphalt roof, at some point they shit the bed and you need to rip out the whole works. (It's a BITCH, and expensive.)
The rest of the space could be converted and equipped as needed for whatever crafts, performance areas, or storage we need, as needed. (Stage, studios, forge, etc.)
If we're in Detroit, having Cain for extra paranoia and cross training us in human dissasembly would be a good idea.
Scroungers would def. be key too. The re - used / re - purposed / re - cycled vibe would be to our advantage. (Even if we're secretly eating McDonalds and deep frying whoel pigs in the back.)
Not moving to Michigan. They're not gun-friendly enough.
Quote from: LMNO on August 26, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
I am now suspicious that you're all actually a bunch of smelly hippies.
I washed daily and wore deodorant when living in hippy central, thank you! :argh!:
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 26, 2009, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 26, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
I am now suspicious that you're all actually a bunch of smelly hippies.
I washed daily and wore deodorant when living in hippy central, thank you! :argh!:
Doin' it wrong.
Rog, I've been Doing It Wrong tm since 5th Feb, 1980.
To quote payne doing an English Accent.. It's mah Fing, innit.
QuoteIt's mah Fing, innit.
That phrase only really works if you're wearing a tracksuit and smoking a fag, though
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
QuoteIt's mah Fing, innit.
That phrase only really works if you're wearing a tracksuit and smoking a fag, though
People still wear tracksuits there? :lulz:
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 26, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
Rog, I've been Doing It Wrong tm since 5th Feb, 1980.
To quote payne doing an English Accent.. It's mah Fing, innit.
Goddamn, I'm old. :(
TGRR,
Being doin' it wrong since Lyndon Johnson was president.
Its mah thing, innit?
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Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 05:02:58 PM
Its mah thing, innit?
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Once there was a country called Britain...
The search string of horror
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=chav+tracksuit&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 05:08:14 PM
The search string of horror
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=chav+tracksuit&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
So can a Furby:
(http://www.freewebs.com/outcrowduk/chav.jpg)
I bet Winston Churchhill, somewhere, is sorry he won the war...
(http://www.freewebs.com/carbrainyoungtroops/neds.jpg)
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
QuoteIt's mah Fing, innit.
That phrase only really works if you're wearing a tracksuit and smoking a fag, though
Its funnier when Payne does it.
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 26, 2009, 05:15:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
QuoteIt's mah Fing, innit.
That phrase only really works if you're wearing a tracksuit and smoking a fag, though
Its funnier when Payne does it.
Yes, in my obviously moar Scottish accent while wearing a non-track suit, it is.
We could build out of cob. It's a mixture of clay, hay, water, and sand that can be packed together and dries adobe-like. I've seen a very sturdy structure built from it at an ecovillage.
And permaclture for the motherfucking win.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on August 26, 2009, 09:38:16 PM
We could build out of cob. It's a mixture of clay, hay, water, and sand that can be packed together and dries adobe-like. I've seen a very sturdy structure built from it at an ecovillage.
And permaclture for the motherfucking win.
:thanks:
discordian Permaculturists! thats very very epic win.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on August 26, 2009, 09:38:16 PM
We could build out of cob. It's a mixture of clay, hay, water, and sand that can be packed together and dries adobe-like. I've seen a very sturdy structure built from it at an ecovillage.
And permaclture for the motherfucking win.
:crankey:
WTF is this shit? Will we have to eat lentils, too?
But they're good for you and Mother Earth
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I vote for poomp houses.
http://www.travelpod.com/travel-photo/cthrasher/rtw_2006-2007/1161429000/pictures37_065.jpg/tpod.html
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 26, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
Separating living space and public space might prove tricksy...
anyone here with any construction skills? Or will we just have tents indoors?
Also I have mad scrounging and trashpicking skills.
I've done construction at this level, non support structure walls. Pretty simple, frame, sheetrock, smooth and paint. The one tricksy part is doing the electrical work and not having a building inspector shut the place down later on. Something that should be looked at is either home renovation rules (IE, is it possible to do it for yourself without a license) and the possibility of getting people on track for licensed electrical/plumbing/general contracting for a given possible area.
Also what cities have mixed zoning where we could live in a factory without having the city harass us more than usual?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 26, 2009, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 26, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
Separating living space and public space might prove tricksy...
anyone here with any construction skills? Or will we just have tents indoors?
Also I have mad scrounging and trashpicking skills.
I've done construction at this level, non support structure walls. Pretty simple, frame, sheetrock, smooth and paint. The one tricksy part is doing the electrical work and not having a building inspector shut the place down later on. Something that should be looked at is either home renovation rules (IE, is it possible to do it for yourself without a license) and the possibility of getting people on track for licensed electrical/plumbing/general contracting for a given possible area.
Also what cities have mixed zoning where we could live in a factory without having the city harass us more than usual?
yes these regs would be something that local authorities if they took a dislike would use against such a plan.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 26, 2009, 10:32:13 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on August 26, 2009, 09:38:16 PM
We could build out of cob. It's a mixture of clay, hay, water, and sand that can be packed together and dries adobe-like. I've seen a very sturdy structure built from it at an ecovillage.
And permaclture for the motherfucking win.
:crankey:
WTF is this shit? Will we have to eat lentils, too?
God I hope not. They're so tasteless.
I vote for Northeastern Native American-style agriculture: corn, beans, squash. Then we can have baked beans, corn on the cob (and other delicious corn-based things), and throw the squash away unless someone knows a few really good squash recipes.
And no goddamn zucchini! :argh!:
I vote for growing whatever is easiest in the climate and can be turned into alcohol, then selling the booze for grocery money.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on August 26, 2009, 11:25:34 PM
I vote for growing whatever is easiest in the climate and can be turned into alcohol, then selling the booze for grocery money.
TITCM.
I wonder if anyone would actually buy squash booze...
Of course they would.
The question is whether or not they'd buy it a second time.
Also, I say scrap all previous ideas and convert the whole planet to Discordianism to make it one giant Discordian commune.
Hell no, I like this religion the way it is The other monkeys would ruin it. :argh!:
No no no, I forgot to mention the second part of the plan:
once Discordianism takes over as the major world religion we all secretly relocate to a different label and become the rebellion against the obnoxious theocracy we created
it'll be fun!
Quote from: Cainad on August 27, 2009, 01:25:13 AM
No no no, I forgot to mention the second part of the plan:
once Discordianism takes over as the major world religion we all secretly relocate to a different label and become the rebellion against the obnoxious theocracy we created
it'll be fun!
We can call it the No-Discordian Club.
Some people say making Discordianism go mainstream would be a bad thing. I disagree. We could become wealthy and, when we tire of the joke, tear it all down from the inside out. Win-win-mittens-win situation as far as I'm concerned.
That plan will backfire, and not being a really will Discordian will be punishable by death. I know it.
Even funnier! :lulz:
Quote from: Payne on August 26, 2009, 10:43:12 AM
Quote from: VERBtr on August 26, 2009, 10:22:43 AM
That is actually a good plan. Buy a shitload of guns and move to Detroit. As the city progressively collapses we can grow and eventually rename the city to something silly that suits our fancy.
:fap:
Retroit.
when we're done with it, it'll be a combo of "Discordia" and "Detroit", so ... "Distroit" :)
But what about the poor lentils?
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lentils aren't so bad in stews with some chicken. I hated em whilst living in the permaculture camp, cos nae fucker soaked em properly. :horrormirth: So much so something revolting gave me Lentil Face (eat lentils, make extreme revulsion face) for months until I found someone who can cook. And add meat. :lulz:
And the reson most communes are mostly veggie/vegan? Its fucking cheap to live on. £10 per head for three weeks.
Altho keeping chickens for eggs and the occasional bird for the table is a smart move.
Also I am used to cooking food for shit loads of people and can cook the range from omnivore to stinking vegan, and am not adverse to finding solutions to big differences in diet.
Quote from: LMNO on August 27, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
But what about the poor lentils?
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Ah, someone else with a knowledge of sick UK comedy! :lulz:
"Ugh.... Mike, what's the best thing for a hangover?"
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"Drinking heavily the night before."
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Rik Mayall was amazing, my mum used to let me watch it when I was about 6. :lulz: :lulz:
Wanna know how to avoid a hangover?
Don't stop drinking.
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"THE DOORBELL JUST BLEW UP!"
\ "VYVYAN!"
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VYVYAN, VYVYAN, VYVYAN.... Everytime something explodes in this house, IT'S ALWAYS BLOODY VYVYAN!"
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Quote from: LMNO on August 27, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
But what about the poor lentils?
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This is EXACTLY what I was picturing when Lentils were mentioned - love the Young Ones!
Quote from: That One Guy on August 27, 2009, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 27, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
But what about the poor lentils?
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This is EXACTLY what I was picturing when Lentils were mentioned - love the Young Ones!
The Young Ones was the
best ONLY GOOD show on TV. Ever.
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 27, 2009, 03:25:21 PM
Altho keeping chickens for eggs and the occasional bird for the table is a smart move.
from personal experience if you can get chickens to work youll get alot of eggs and with every batch of chicks you get you'll get 50% cockerels, so plenty of tasty chicken and after each batch of chicks ( unless you eat them all ) youll have to change the cockerel so more meat!
Detroit used to have a program where property that had been abandoned as urban blight would be sold for just about nothing so that it could be back on the city tax rolls.
I remember seeing an old brewery building for sale for an almost inconceivably low price, like under 20 grand.
or, put another way, a grand each from 20 of us.
Also, if this ever comes anywhere near fruition, count me in. You'll need someone who knows how to cook ANYTHING with ANYTHING, and you'll need connections to the "unofficial economy".
You guys should get started ASAP. I'll hop on over when I have my degree in 2011. :D
Bye mom, I'm moving into an abandoned factory in Detroit! BTW, can you make sure my body isn't buried in Michigan?
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on August 31, 2009, 04:53:04 AM
or, put another way, a grand each from 20 of us.
Which would be harder? 20x $1,000 or 20,000x $1 ?
Cause I'm now thinking Commune Timeshare. Advertise the Real Discordian
TM experience (you know: free love, cheech and chong movie marathons, elvis look-a-like competitions, rant workshops, etc). How hard is it to out-sex Scientology? I'm sure you could get more people interested in securing their place than who would actually show up.
For example, if in any year, you assume 10% turnout for any 5-day slot, that's only about 25-30 guests at a time. If you up the investment to $5, then you're down to a more manageable 5-6 guests. Plus on top of that you have a yearly "maintenance fee", charge "guest fees" for bringing along
recruits friends, invest all that into new infrastructure and it's the perfect
scam business plan.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on August 31, 2009, 04:53:04 AM
you'll need connections to the "unofficial economy".
Watching me attempt to deal with the unofficial economy in America would be hilarious.
By which I mean "likely fatal".
Strolling through Detroit with my quasi-upper class British accent is just a recipe for disaster waiting to happen.
Quote from: fictionpuss on August 31, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on August 31, 2009, 04:53:04 AM
or, put another way, a grand each from 20 of us.
Which would be harder? 20x $1,000 or 20,000x $1 ?
Cause I'm now thinking Commune Timeshare. Advertise the Real DiscordianTM experience (you know: free love, cheech and chong movie marathons, elvis look-a-like competitions, rant workshops, etc). How hard is it to out-sex Scientology? I'm sure you could get more people interested in securing their place than who would actually show up.
For example, if in any year, you assume 10% turnout for any 5-day slot, that's only about 25-30 guests at a time. If you up the investment to $5, then you're down to a more manageable 5-6 guests. Plus on top of that you have a yearly "maintenance fee", charge "guest fees" for bringing along recruits friends, invest all that into new infrastructure and it's the perfect scam business plan.
So, we'd be catering to tourists? As lucrative as that may be, I can't see us being as successful as the hawaiians or amish, and probably will have equally irritating 'guests'.
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on August 31, 2009, 03:36:01 PM
So, we'd be catering to tourists? As lucrative as that may be, I can't see us being as successful as the hawaiians or amish, and probably will have equally irritating 'guests'.
Each of the satellite communes could pretend to be the Real Discordian Commune, but the real discordian commune would be the one which had priority access to the 'evaluation questionnaire' results, photos, and thus no irritating unwanted 'guests'. Just like any cult - people could schmooze their way to the top if they're 'interesting' enough.
Bottom line is - we need cultists to balance out the cult-leaders, but the best cultists are those who can go back to their boring 9-5 after their annual pilgrimage and spread the word in the real world.
I've been considering buying some property in Detroit just to have it, actually... and urban farming is my specialty! Except for the fact that I refuse to move from Portland, that would be a great idea.
For that matter, we could make it an artists retreat, and charge something like $600 for two weeks of workshops and instruction.
I command $350 a head for a two-day class, so $600 for two weeks, including room and board, is a bargain. I'm sure we have some other artists in our midst who would be able to teach workshops in their mediums.
If I could get Space Cowboy on board, he could teach ceramics.
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on August 31, 2009, 03:36:01 PM
So, we'd be catering to tourists? As lucrative as that may be, I can't see us being as successful as the hawaiians or amish, and probably will have equally irritating 'guests'.
Then we shamelessly mess with, inconveniece, or firehose them in the name of giving them a more "Authentic" Discordian experience.
Quote from: Richter on August 31, 2009, 05:14:07 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on August 31, 2009, 03:36:01 PM
So, we'd be catering to tourists? As lucrative as that may be, I can't see us being as successful as the hawaiians or amish, and probably will have equally irritating 'guests'.
Then we shamelessly mess with, inconveniece, or firehose them in the name of giving them a more "Authentic" Discordian experience.
It has the authentic Discordian experience
or and it gets the hose again.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 31, 2009, 04:41:33 PM
I've been considering buying some property in Detroit just to have it, actually... and urban farming is my specialty! Except for the fact that I refuse to move from Portland, that would be a great idea.
don't move to detroit!
you'll just start raping people
srsly though, don't move to detroit
Quote from: Gramulus on August 31, 2009, 07:01:20 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 31, 2009, 04:41:33 PM
I've been considering buying some property in Detroit just to have it, actually... and urban farming is my specialty! Except for the fact that I refuse to move from Portland, that would be a great idea.
don't move to detroit!
you'll just start raping people
srsly though, don't move to detroit
I was just going to buy a bunch of properties and watch them decay. I mean, shit, have you checked out property values in Detroit? It's practically free.
Yeah, but there's still the in - Detroit - ness to deal with.
Granted, playing clubhouse with enough of you glorious wackos WOULD place us in a fantastic quantum state of in detroit yet not, but walk out the door, and it would collapse back to Detroit
Quote from: Richter on August 31, 2009, 07:28:02 PM
Yeah, but there's still the in - Detroit - ness to deal with.
Granted, playing clubhouse with enough of you glorious wackos WOULD place us in a fantastic quantum state of in detroit yet not, but walk out the door, and it would collapse back to Detroit
Close.
Detroit collapses YOU.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 31, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: Richter on August 31, 2009, 07:28:02 PM
Yeah, but there's still the in - Detroit - ness to deal with.
Granted, playing clubhouse with enough of you glorious wackos WOULD place us in a fantastic quantum state of in detroit yet not, but walk out the door, and it would collapse back to Detroit
Close.
Detroit prolapses YOU.
Srsly.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on August 31, 2009, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 31, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: Richter on August 31, 2009, 07:28:02 PM
Yeah, but there's still the in - Detroit - ness to deal with.
Granted, playing clubhouse with enough of you glorious wackos WOULD place us in a fantastic quantum state of in detroit yet not, but walk out the door, and it would collapse back to Detroit
Close.
Detroit prolapses YOU.
Srsly.
That, too. I blame Windsor.
We all blame Windsor.
Except for Windsor itself, which blames Chatham.
Quote from: Hoopla on August 31, 2009, 07:39:34 PM
We all blame Windsor.
Except for Windsor itself, which blames Chatham.
Don't get me started on THOSE bastards.
Amen to that. :horrormirth:
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 31, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
For that matter, we could make it an artists retreat, and charge something like $600 for two weeks of workshops and instruction.
I command $350 a head for a two-day class, so $600 for two weeks, including room and board, is a bargain. I'm sure we have some other artists in our midst who would be able to teach workshops in their mediums.
If I could get Space Cowboy on board, he could teach ceramics.
Silversmithing here.
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 31, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 31, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
For that matter, we could make it an artists retreat, and charge something like $600 for two weeks of workshops and instruction.
I command $350 a head for a two-day class, so $600 for two weeks, including room and board, is a bargain. I'm sure we have some other artists in our midst who would be able to teach workshops in their mediums.
If I could get Space Cowboy on board, he could teach ceramics.
Silversmithing here.
Skills I bring to the table:
1 and 3 phase electrical.
Mechanical (any, but don't do cars).
Hate.
Rage.
Random violence when forced to deal with primates.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 31, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 31, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 31, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
For that matter, we could make it an artists retreat, and charge something like $600 for two weeks of workshops and instruction.
I command $350 a head for a two-day class, so $600 for two weeks, including room and board, is a bargain. I'm sure we have some other artists in our midst who would be able to teach workshops in their mediums.
If I could get Space Cowboy on board, he could teach ceramics.
Silversmithing here.
Skills I bring to the table:
1 and 3 phase electrical.
Mechanical (any, but don't do cars).
Hate.
Rage.
Random violence when forced to deal with primates.
I think we have an official Greeter Of Salesmen.
Quote from: Regret on August 31, 2009, 08:42:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 31, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 31, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 31, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
For that matter, we could make it an artists retreat, and charge something like $600 for two weeks of workshops and instruction.
I command $350 a head for a two-day class, so $600 for two weeks, including room and board, is a bargain. I'm sure we have some other artists in our midst who would be able to teach workshops in their mediums.
If I could get Space Cowboy on board, he could teach ceramics.
Silversmithing here.
Skills I bring to the table:
1 and 3 phase electrical.
Mechanical (any, but don't do cars).
Hate.
Rage.
Random violence when forced to deal with primates.
I think we have an official Greeter Of Salesmen.
Oh, yes. Door-to-door salesmen and telemarketers are an untapped source of humor.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 31, 2009, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: Regret on August 31, 2009, 08:42:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 31, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 31, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on August 31, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
For that matter, we could make it an artists retreat, and charge something like $600 for two weeks of workshops and instruction.
I command $350 a head for a two-day class, so $600 for two weeks, including room and board, is a bargain. I'm sure we have some other artists in our midst who would be able to teach workshops in their mediums.
If I could get Space Cowboy on board, he could teach ceramics.
Silversmithing here.
Skills I bring to the table:
1 and 3 phase electrical.
Mechanical (any, but don't do cars).
Hate.
Rage.
Random violence when forced to deal with primates.
I think we have an official Greeter Of Salesmen.
Oh, yes. Door-to-door salesmen and telemarketers are an untapped source of humor.
:lulz:
I'd hate to be a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness calling on our commune...
We could have so much fun.
One of usssss....
One of Usssss......
Did you know Jehova is a girl and his name is Eris?
Quote from: Gramulus on August 31, 2009, 08:56:44 PM
Did you know Jehova is a girl and his name am Eris?
Fixed for great justice.
:lulz: