Here is the a cappella:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SVXOXZR9
Here is the lyrics written out (roughly)
hey kid
welcome to prison
you might wanna listen
to the wisdom
we're kickin in your direction
what?
youre hard-headed?
brain-deaded?
too many years of training got you misleaded?
brainwashed?
youre lost?
and it aint the tv show
this is real life shit
getting dark like sleepy hollow
we cordially invited you
if you decline we might smite you
not because we dont like you
we set the spark that ignites you
we drop habits like hippies drop acid
sharpen blades like blacksmiths
while youre armed with a matchstick
we cant go wrong
we done been there
and got the bruises to prove it
spit original legit
on demand we produce it
this aint poetry its potency
the roots that support the tree
and it aint just me
hit PD and meet the family
international
intergalactic
trans-dimensional
and when we rain we pour
its more like torrential
you can ignore it for now
we'll see how far it gets you
even a construction crew
cant dig deep enough to protect you
no illusions
we're drawing blueprints
slow and steady keep it moving
trial and error keep improving
gain momentum never losing
stay sharp never snoozing
any doubt we barstool it
the air is gettin thick
and we're in it like pollution
LMNO - lemme know if this is workable or trash
Fucking blockpages.
Can you post it to your multiply site?
yeah lemme see if i can figure out how to work that thing
LMNO: check PM
Got it.
I'll see what I can do.
i keep on trying to download and listen to the track but first i was at home and now megaupload says "all the download slots for the netherlands are taken" wtf
i tossed it on the multiply site so LMNO could grab it at work
http://lhx012.multiply.com/
this should definitely be produced with a beat and a good bassline behind it!
though i don't think this actual audio recording is suitable as raw material but it wasn't intended that way right?
(well, maybe it would work it if you'd apply a noisegate, some editing to make it match the beat closely and then VOCODER -- ultimate panacea :-D )
anyway, the lyrics are good and i can definitely hear this become something great!
Nice lyrics. Audio isn't great, but I can definitely see a beat and bass to go with it.
One question though: would anyone get pissed off if I made my own beat for this?
(and one other question: is my bpm counter right in saying this was done at around 82 bpm?)
if you can figure out how to do anything useful wiff these lyrics, i can deliver more of them
also
if you have any tips on how to make the sound quality better on my end let me know
Uber, go with it.
LHX, I messed around w/ it, I'll probably post something around 5:30 EST.
I don't mind the vocal quality, It's easy enough to play with.
Best thing that could help was what Uber alluded to-- rap over a click track & let us know what BPM it is.
just a question, out of interest -- if you "process" such a track, do you also cut-n-paste-n-shift the bits of words to have them match the rhythm exactly?
yup. I couldn't work out exactly what the BPM was, so I cut it up & arranged it so that a stressed word landed on a down, or back, beat.
It's got a pseudo-Wu Tang feel. But Canadian.
i nominate "pseudo wu-tang" for word of the day :-)
how do you do this cutting and re-arranging? sounds like a LOT of work or are there good tools for it?
you use soundforge or something?
ProTools. Non-linear editing, ftw.
ProTools.
music software envy ITT.
thats big bucks that stuff.
Also, a question, how would one go about getting audio from a cassette to a computer?
I'm still a novice at this stuff.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 31, 2007, 04:16:37 PM
ProTools.
music software envy ITT.
thats big bucks that stuff. 
Software is
free. Repeat after me -
Bit Torrent
ProTools requires specific hardware in order to run.
But there's plenty of software out there that's as good as ProTools.
For analog->digital, you need a few things:
1. an a/d - d/a card (most new computers should have one).
2. an audio input jack.
3. an RCA -> 1/9" jack cord
4. a digital audio program that can record from your input jack.
There are other ways to do it as well. I think they sell an all-in-one device that converts the analog signal, and is essentially an RCA -> USB cord, with the a/d in the middle. But the above is the cheapest.
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 04:25:31 PM
ProTools requires specific hardware in order to run.
You mean dongle? Or a recording studio or something?
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 31, 2007, 04:18:50 PMSoftware is free. Repeat after me - Bit Torrent
WHAT BUT I'M A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT AND IT'S STEALING AND MY BREAD AND I WILL BE POOR AND LIVE IN THE GUTTER AND NOBODY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO USE A COMPUTER AGAIN BECAUSE WHO'S GONNA PROGRAM IT IF THEY DON'T GET ANY -- oh wait. never mind.
we nerds program computers cause we like it hehehe *snort* too late now to convince the world we're snobby and should have coders-labels and live like kings :-/
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 31, 2007, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 04:25:31 PM
ProTools requires specific hardware in order to run.
You mean dongle? Or a recording studio or something?
Like a Digirack, or an M box, or another piece of Digidesign hardware.
I've never stolen  piece of software that resulted in someone starving to death. Or, if I have, then it was either him or me.
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 31, 2007, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 04:25:31 PM
ProTools requires specific hardware in order to run.
You mean dongle? Or a recording studio or something?
Like a Digirack, or an M box, or another piece of Digidesign hardware.
If all it's doing is checking these things are there then it's crackable but if it doesn't do anything without these then theres obviously no point.
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 31, 2007, 04:38:02 PMI've never stolen  piece of software that resulted in someone starving to death. Or, if I have, then it was either him or me.
:lol:
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 31, 2007, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 31, 2007, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 04:25:31 PM
ProTools requires specific hardware in order to run.
You mean dongle? Or a recording studio or something?
Like a Digirack, or an M box, or another piece of Digidesign hardware.
If all it's doing is checking these things are there then it's crackable but if it doesn't do anything without these then theres obviously no point.
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 04:25:31 PM
ProTools requires specific hardware in order to run.
But there's plenty of software out there that's as good as ProTools.
For analog->digital, you need a few things:
1. an a/d - d/a card (most new computers should have one).
2. an audio input jack.
3. an RCA -> 1/9" jack cord
4. a digital audio program that can record from your input jack.
There are other ways to do it as well.  I think they sell an all-in-one device that converts the analog signal, and is essentially an RCA -> USB cord, with the a/d in the middle.  But the above is the cheapest.
Thanks, seems relatively simple. All I need is the cord then I guess, are those fairly easy to find? For example would a place like Best Buy or RadioShack have such a thing or do I need to look in more specialized places?
First off, it's RCA-> 1/8" jack. Whoops.
Second, RadioShack for the cable, online for the program (try MusicMatch for a free one), and if you don't have the card or audio input, SOL.
For the all-in-one device, I saw one at Microcenter. CompUSA might have one, even Best Buy, maybe.
Cool, I already have the software I just wasn't too sure how to go about it. Eventually I want to totally computerize my recording studio but for now the 4-track will have to do.
Well, a few things to watch out for...
Some programs don't recognize the analog audio in jack on the computer, and watch out for the input level clipping or being inaudible.
Also, some can't handle a very long input time, and will glitch the recording. Other than that, send the signal (RCA side) out the amp/receiver, and into the jack.
Okay, another audiophyle question then. Basically, I write most of my music on keyboard and guitar. I know I can do a midi keyboard to the computer, though I seem to get a slight lag between the keyboard and the music program which is very annyoing.
Anyway, I'd love to be able to just somehow feed the guitar right to the computer into my music recording software. What kind of interface(s) does one need in order to do that?
Same principle as the cassete deck, you just need a 1/4" -> 1/8" cable to go from the amplifier to the audio input.
Quote from: triple zero on January 31, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
i nominate "pseudo wu-tang" for word of the day :-)
how do you do this cutting and re-arranging? sounds like a LOT of work or are there good tools for it?
you use soundforge or something?
I use Acid (which works in pretty much the exact same way as Soundforge), and it's pretty good for chopping and editing (though it takes a hella long time to get it right.)
If it helps, the human ear can't really distinguish any difference below 10ms.
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 03:44:02 PM
yup.  I couldn't work out exactly what the BPM was, so I cut it up & arranged it so that a stressed word landed on a down, or back, beat.
*loves that idea*
It helps that LHX has a pretty loose & languid flow to begin with.
*really curious as to how it will turn out*
Are you paying attention?
Check the "propoganda" baby section in "O:M".
i just logged on, heading there right now :-)
Before you say anything, yes, the vocals are too loud.
IT'S FUCKING AWESOME MAN
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/05136/megamittens.png)
you DO love you the reverb don't you? ;-)
i don't think the vocals are too loud, i'd cut a bit on the reverb cause it makes the words hard to distinguish -- for me at least. (and since i'm a littlebit deaf when there's background noise, it annoys me)
love the way you made the intro text sound like a jamaican ragga voice somehow btw :-)
Reverb = imperfection corrector.
But yeah, it's a bit heavy handed.
I was thinking of the way the beastie boys sounded on almost the entirety of "Ill Communication" and "Hello Nasty", all distorted and delayed.
Essentially, that's the pure vox through an amp emulator, with a little distortion, some reverb, and echo.
I didn't think it was that bad, though I didn't turn it up too much not wanting to attract unwanted attention. And I didn't have the commitment to go through the 12 minutes of Mang's thing but I'll check it out at home tonite.
I also checked out a couple of Empties tunes. good stuff.
Heh.  I do what I say.  Sometimes.
(Ripping off Silly, ITT>)
Quote from: LMNO on February 01, 2007, 07:31:12 PMvocoder = imperfection corrector.
fix'd ;-)
you can wet/dry mix a vocoder as well, you know that, just to not make it sounds totally robotic.
QuoteI was thinking of the way the beastie boys sounded on almost the entirety of "Ill Communication" and "Hello Nasty", all distorted and delayed.
Essentially, that's the pure vox through an amp emulator, with a little distortion, some reverb, and echo.
it's the echo that makes it hard to distinguish (i guess -- have to try it out to make sure of course) cause you get delayed syllables getting in the way of eachother... i think.
i coded a vocoder once. it sucked.
i made a VST effect once, it was pretty cool, a combination of a bitcrusher, waveshaper and lowpass.
the problem with me coding audio effects is that i never get anywhere because as soon as something cool comes out, i can play for hours tweaking the parameters and enjoying all the squeaky/noisy/bassy/plain weird/ringmodulated goodness :)
that, and my knowledge is mosly limited to a theoretical understanding of DSP, and i either don't have the experience (never played an instrument unfortuantely) or perhaps the talent to make a decent tune.
drums, i could kind of make those.
this is the only "song" i made once: http://download.yousendit.com/F5D853146C08E037 (hope your winamp can play .ogg files?)
it's programmed into about 1200 bytes (!) of assembly code. all squeeks bleeps and crushing noises were handcrafted from scratch by yours truly. the notes (chord?) from which i put together the "melody" were suggested by a friend.
if you think this is interesting, i've got a few more projects, which were "random music generators" (something, despite my lack of musical knowledge, which has always interested me, the algorithmic generation of music .. some of the random tracks it generates are actually better than the one i linked above hahaha)
You sound like a perfect candidate for Cubase.
never worked with it.
do you know "Buzz"? i thought it was quite interesting, hypermodular, just plug everthing together. although i just wanted a few buzzmachines sum, multiply, unit-delay in order to build the filters from scratch ;-)
Wait... it wasn't cubase... damn. I can't think of it. It's an open souce, completely programmable tone generator, from MIT... almost pure additive synth.
Dammit. It's totally what you'd be into. Fuck. I can't remember what it's called.
sure it wasn't Buzz?
maybe Stomper? though that's for drums/percussion sounds mostly.
something more generative like JMAX or NATO? (hellooo netochka nezvanova are you out there?)
but additive is boring, you need low pass resonance filters. 303 FTW ;-)
though FM synthesis can make interesting sounds, but that's also not quite additive.
problem with additive is, where do you get all the frequencies from, you have to put them in one by one, they can't spontaneously 'emerge' like they do with more non-linear operations.
Like most open source thinsg, there are pre-sets, but you can fuck with them immensely.
Dammit, I wish I could remember what the name was.
for the moment the only audio toy i'm playing with is Traktor DJ Studio 2.5 .. trying to get some practice and a setlist together for playing some funky electro, chemical beats/breaks (and perhaps a littlebit of ebm/industrial *if* i can pull it off in the mix) for a party i'm organising with some friends in about one month.
and yes i know mixing from vinyl pwns all, but the end-result for the crowd is also important, and this i've done before (with success).
Quote from: triple zero on February 01, 2007, 08:01:41 PM
never worked with it.
do you know "Buzz"? i thought it was quite interesting, hypermodular, just plug everthing together. although i just wanted a few buzzmachines sum, multiply, unit-delay in order to build the filters from scratch ;-)
Buzz was awesome. Problem was I kept overloading my poor pentium 2 processor with patches so I dumped it. The, a couple years later, it showed up as a plugin for cakewalk (or maybe magix or something similar)
wait.. LMNO, you weren't talking about fruityloops right?
(or reactor, or reason)
Fruityloops! That was it - it has buzz built in :-D