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Really boards with nails?
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Show posts MenuQuote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on October 09, 2011, 06:02:15 PM
When I first started hearing about objections to the Occupy protests, the imediatly reminded me of that fallacious argument Dawkins used at that conference to belittle a woman harassed at night in an elevator.
I think, because I'm seeing this everywhere, it needs a name, so I'm going to start calling it the argumentum ad oblitum, or more simply the Dawkins Fallacy.
The Dawkins fallacy is when a problem of larger scope is used as a foil to dismantle protest over a problem seemingly of smaller scope. The smaller scope argument superficially seems to disappear under the larger scope, but it is actually only dismissed or belittled, not refuted.
The lowest level and least insidious version of this is the child who argues about eating their poorly cooked vegetables and the parent uses children starving in Africa to quiet them. The worst offenders use the foil of international problems to keep individuals from seeking to improve their lives, they should be content with what they have because others have it worse off. Don't like your shitty job? At least you HAVE a shitty job, tones of people don't, so you should be content with it. Don't like getting harrassed in the workplace? Why are you complaining about workplace harassement when women in the middle east have to wear burkhas and get raped daily?
It may be cognitive bias, but I'm starting to see Dawkins Fallacy everywhere.
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2011, 05:37:38 PM
Perhaps suggestions from random strangers is exactly what he would have wanted, in which case, here's mine:
Go to the park on the anniversary of his death and eat a hot dog in the rain.
Quote from: Alty on October 27, 2011, 06:08:38 AM
Ah HELL no!
I think that the Occupy movement had brought out a lot of interesting sides to people, a lot of different perspectives. Generally I think this thing might be getting bigger than most individuals can wrap their heads around. I'm definitely one of those people. This thing confuses the fuck out me and this is (one of) my attempts to untangle the knots in my head.
If that's the impression I gave off I am heading in the wrong direction.
Quote from: Nigel on October 31, 2011, 08:02:45 PM
If that was an elk, not a horse, I think people would react differently. They might even think it was hot... remember the people fucking on a bear?
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 31, 2011, 03:07:49 PMQuote from: Brian Fnord on October 31, 2011, 06:32:30 AM
So will the frozen air just thaw or
Why would it? Wikipedia says its average surface temp is between 30 and 56 degrees K and its perihelion is 37.77 AU. In other words, fucking cold and fucking far.