(Alternatively titled: Oh, this is how we're doing it? Alright, fuck it. I can do that too.)
BAWWWWWWW!!1 MY LIEF IS SO HORRIBEL! ALSO FUCK YOU BECAUSE I'M UNHAPPY WITH MY LIFE!
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:joshua:
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FUCK! HOW DID THINGS BECOME SO BAD!? HOW DID I GET HERE?!
Through your own goddamn choices, that's how. You can choose to piss and moan about it. You can choose to be a passive-aggressive drama-whore. You can even choose to take your problems out on other people, but at the end of the day none of that is going to help you. All of your choices have consequences and the consequences don't fucking care if you don't want to deal with them or if you're incapable of coping in a reasonable way.
You're a fucking adult, deal with your problems. It's nobody else's fault. YOU made the decisions that brought you to where you are. Maybe you made some bad choices. It's OK, everyone does. Welcome to reality.
Shitty things WILL happen to you. People you count on will disappoint you. People will abuse you; maybe even try to kill you. This happens to all of us. When we deal with these events in a shitty way, refuse to learn from our personal tragedies, and treat people who aren't responsible for our problems like shit, it's not going to make anything better. In fact, it's only going to create new problems.
All the little choices a person makes in a day come together to form their environment. These choices can be so seemingly insignificant that we make them without even thinking. To the person making them, they might not even realize they're making them, but the consequences know all the choices we make, no matter how insignificant they might seem.
So, you can keep on doing what you've been doing. You can keep repeating the actions that brought you to the place you're at or you can own up to it and take a hard look at who you are and the choices you've made. You can start making connections to your actions and their results. Things that might have seemed insignificant to you at the time may have had profound consequences that you didn't see before. You might even learn how to stop repeating the behaviors that got you here.
Can you control the world? Of course not. The world can, and probably will, shit on you.
If you're smart you might be able to take steps to mitigate the damage when the world does shit on you, but the only thing you can control is how you react to the world. The consequences don't give a fuck about you, but that doesn't mean they can't help you. You can learn from the consequences and you might be able to transcend your horrible little monkey. You could even become self-aware one day like one of those new drones the military uses or a furby.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 25, 2010, 11:41:37 PM
(Alternatively titled: Oh, this is how we're doing it? Alright, fuck it. I can do that too.)
BAWWWWWWW!!1 MY LIEF IS SO HORRIBEL! ALSO FUCK YOU BECAUSE I'M UNHAPPY WITH MY LIFE!
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FUCK! HOW DID THINGS BECOME SO BAD!? HOW DID I GET HERE?!
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Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 25, 2010, 11:41:37 PM
Through your own goddamn choices, that's how.
And we all know that people always know that they have complete information when they make decisions.
And nobody, anywhere has ever had an outside influence affect their lives without their consent.
Um, why are you replying to yourself?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 26, 2010, 08:28:49 PM
Um, why are you replying to yourself?
Because everyone else was ignoring him.
Squirrel of Discord disapproves
We are born into a insane universe, with insane monkeys surrounding us, jamming stupid buggy programs into our heads.
We get older and more insane monkeys blast malicious code into our heads through media ans society.
We get older still and program ourselves, based on the shitty programs already there and any serious FUCKUPS that happened to fall on our heads.
And sometimes, when we get the rare chance... We fuck ourselves in the ear.
But yea, its alll responsibility and we just need to sack up and fix ourselves...
I'll tell the computer network that the next time some computer virus starts taking out systems. Bet that will work like a charm.
:?
Nonono. I think you misunderstand. It's that when bad things happen, it's because the person they happen to did something bad, and they deserve it.
(This is how people who have privilege comfort themselves into believing that they're doing something right. It's like karma, or The Secret.)
People who are unemployed/underemployed, can't afford a nice home, don't have cars, or break up with their significant other have made bad choices, and they need to sack up and deal with it.
People are only ever annoyed or cranky with others because they're bitter about having fucked up their own lives, so there's no need to respect them.
If your life is perfect, it's because you're a better human being than other people. But other people don't really matter anyway... they're just pixels on a screen, only useful for lulz.
:lulz:
This sloppily written pile of shit (thanks for making me waste 11 minutes of my life) was created for the sole purpose to determine whether or not Nigel was genuinely contributing content or just being a passive aggressive bitch.
Looks like I got my answer. Despite this thread being troll bait, it did have a valid point: You are the sum total of your choices.
You can make all the excuses you want, like Nigel is doing right now. You can be as passive aggressive as you want and write threads that try to garner your favor. You can try to make people who are calling you out on your behavior look bad.
or
You can put all your efforts into bettering yourself. You can accept responsibility for your situation.
As far as my life is concerned (thanks for asking Nigel), it's pretty fucking good after a lot of really terrible things happened. I never complained about them. I never looked for sympathy. I just looked for solutions and after enough searching I found them. I fixed my problems. I've been in situations similar to what you've described and worse. You can fix it. You can recover.
I've been through a lot of horrific shit none of you will ever know about. I've seen things in life that would ruin a lot of people for the rest of their lives. I've lost a lot. I got through it all. I don't want anbody's sympathy or their congratulations. I just want you all to realize that the only person that can make things better for you is YOU. You will fail. Bad shit will happen. You have to keep trying or you're just going to drown.
Normally, I'd take a proper shit on you Nigel but, to be perfectly honest, I don't completely hate you. I see promise in you. I think there is more than just a passive-aggressive self-righteous bitch in you. I think you might even be able to become a decent human being, but that's not up to me: it's up to you. I don't hate you Nigel. I can't fucking stand you and I think you're an awful bitch, but I don't hate you. I hope you're able to set yourself straight and start being awesome.
This message wasn't just troll-bait aimed at Nigel though, it was for everyone who read it (and I can see that a lot of people read it, despite the lack of replies). Think seriously about what I said. Your parent(s) were right when they told you you could be anything, but becoming something takes serious fucking effort and discipline. Set goals for yourselves and work towards them every day. If you are diligent you will accomplish your goals sooner or later. Don't give up, ever.
I'm off to pursue some personal goals now so you guys probably won't be seeing me much for a while. Better Things To Do and all, but I hope that whoever reads this thread takes something from it and tries to make their situation better.
If you don't help yourself, nobody will.
The world is not out to help you, you need to help yourself.
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Bye then.
I can be anything?*
So no matter what i choose it will always be suboptimal(aka the wrong choice).
Thanks for demotivating me, asshole.
Now let's stop polarising and accept that your life is formed by internal and external influences.
like, your choices matter but so do everybody else's.
*Don't use untruthful absolutes when speaking the words your kids will remember forever.
They most likely will be gullable and take it as dogma.
You know what I thought about when I read the OP? Apart from it being obviously directed at me in part as retaliation for a thread that TTM thought was directed at him, which was inspired in part by his behavior, but was not directed at him but at a larger trend, I thought about other people here who are in a much more screwed situation than I am, and I thought about the broad brush he is painting people with who have made "bad choices" and ended up kinda fucked because they made decisions in the normal way, without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. Do they deserve to be between a rock and a hard place? Not in my opinion. Have they earned the right to vent their problems and garner normal human sympathy? Yes, in my opinion.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 27, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
:lulz:
This sloppily written pile of shit (thanks for making me waste 11 minutes of my life) was created for the sole purpose to determine whether or not Nigel was genuinely contributing content or just being a passive aggressive bitch.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 27, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
This message wasn't just troll-bait aimed at Nigel
Which is it? You can't have it being solely directed at Nigel and then try and say "also it's not just an attack at her" and pretend you were really trying to give us a motivational talk.
I'm left wondering why you're trying to justify what is clearly a personal attack, while also making a point of not caring if people think you're an asshole.
Don't think I'm siding with either one of you here, either. (Just so no response to this expects me to defend anyone else's point.)
I just think if you're going to be 'the only person calling Nigel out on whining too much' or whatever the fuck it is you're doing, that you should at least be consistent with that and not try and disguise it as "if you believe in yourself you can do ANYTHING!"
You're both correct and incorrect. External events happen, not everything is controlled by everyone. Controlling feelings is hard. Oh, sure you can suppress them easily enough, bottle it all up inside until one day you crack, but to really change the way you feel in response to a stimulus, that takes work. I can meditate to stop pain, change my heart rate, and stop the saccades of my eyes. Autonomic function control via conscious action. Yet I can't stop certain automatic thoughts I have. I can't change everything about my reactions at the flip of a switch. Sure I try, and I slowly get better, but it's taken years of work so far and I still have a damn long way to go. I've found the tools & accepted the effort it will take to change my life to be the way I want it. Not everyone has those tools, not everyone is capable of making the effort. To assume everyone can is arrogant. Even if they can many people need help, to deny it because "if you feel bad you just aren't trying" is asinine.
There's a big trend in modern society to say that everyone is equal. No one is less than anyone else, and we can all do the same things. Yeah, great, let's see a quadruple amputee run a marathon then, ok? "Oh, but that's a silly example" you say. Fine, it is silly, but so is assuming there is no difference in the control people can have over their own subconscious. Maybe not everyone can learn to control how they feel, maybe it's harder for some than others. Maybe Nigel isn't good at that (I don't know) and we should help how we can when she has trouble, because we're friends. Perhaps that would be a better path than attacking her for asking for help, for trying to vent. Maybe she doesn't want help, and if she doesn't I'm sure she can say so for herself. Attacking her for having trouble dealing with trouble is a rather asinine thing to do though.
So yeah, I think choices matter. I don't think they're everything. Sometimes a metaphorical bus comes along and makes a total wreck of you. Some things can't be avoided, some can't be corrected. If you think you are in control of everything, wake up, you're not god. If you think you're in control of nothing, wake up, you're not helpless.
Also, do you really want to feel good all the time? Pain has a meaning, it has a purpose, and there are some things where it is the appropriate response. If you can turn off your emotions all the time you're probably a psychopath. Sometimes you feel pain and need to share that feeling to let it decrease. And when you feel joy, and remember distant pain, the joy becomes all the sweeter.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 27, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
for everyone who read it (and I can see that a lot of people read it, despite the lack of replies).
Obvious trollbait does not require any reply. :|
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Peregrine, I really liked your reply but I want to point out something that I've also pointed out in another thread.
My life is pretty good. I'm not a mess, and I don't need help... other than the support and love I'm already getting from my friends. I have equity in a house, three beautiful healthy bright kids and a whole lot of supportive friends, no real debt other than a modest mortgage, good credit, and a business I love which pays the bills. Barely, but in this day and age I'm lucky to have barely. I have other creative outlets that bring me a lot of satisfaction. By any objective standard, my life is not a mess; it's quite successful.
I've vented here about my divorce and written here about the majestic, depressing, hilarious travesty that is dating, but what TTM is trying to do, as a couple of other people have as well, is assert that anytime I say something snarky, irritated, or contradictory, it's because I'm divorced and bitter and my life is a wreck, so I'm taking it out on others.
It's nothing more than a way to discount my opinion. The unfortunate side effect is that it belittles other people in the process.
Back when my life was really a wreck and I wasn't talking about it, I was more hostile, more aggressive, and a great deal more emotional than I am now. I'm pretty sure I never posted about my husband throwing things at me, backing me into a corner and screaming at me, until I called the police and he spent the night in jail... which he blamed me for. There was a lot of shit I never posted about, horrible stressful embarrassing things, but I know I was angry, I was drinking too much, and I was far more abrasive and far less friendly than I am now.
Then, no one ever accused me of being a mess and taking it out on the board. No one ever accused me of saying I thought television was stupid because I was unhappy in my personal life. This armchair psychoanalist nonsense is pure condescending bullshit. "She's angry because her life is a mess" pats little divorcee on head.
How about the people who are angry and looking for someone to lash out at because they're depressed, anxious, and feel helpless? People who don't post about it because it makes them feel weak, or are afraid people will judge them... especially if they've been judgmental about other people looking for moral support here?
How ridiculous would it be to accuse everyone who disagrees with anyone else, or makes a snarky comment, of having a mental disorder or trouble at home? Better yet, what if we assumed that every comment had pointed malice behind it? That's what happens when you start making assumptions about the mental state behind people's posts. Once you make the assumption that someone is bitter and unhappy, you start viewing all their posts through that filter. I feel like some people stuck me in the "Unhappy bitter divorcee trainwreck" box, and that is the filter they insist on viewing me through, even though my anxiety over the divorce dissipated as soon as my ex and I came to a settlement, and since then I've been focused on work. I was heartbroken over Mario, now I'm over it and we're friends. I'm enjoying the hell out of Spring, meeting new people, and looking forward to the gallery opening next week.
There are things I want, like more money and a nice boyfriend, but I am pretty sure that those things will both happen in time.
I don't think TTM read that part of my post in that other thread, because it kind of pre-emptively takes the wind out of the sail of the OP in this thread. Sorry, guys, my life doesn't suck.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 26, 2010, 09:09:28 PM
Nonono. I think you misunderstand. It's that when bad things happen, it's because the person they happen to did something bad, and they deserve it.
That brain virus was totally the result of my own choices.
I mean, the doctors have no idea how you get these things, really, but TTM has cleared that up for me. All that damage in my reticular formation is actually my own fault.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 27, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
Looks like I got my answer. Despite this thread being troll bait, it did have a valid point: You are the sum total of your choices.
See?
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 27, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
I'm off to pursue some personal goals now so you guys probably won't be seeing me much for a while. Better Things To Do and all, but I hope that whoever reads this thread takes something from it and tries to make their situation better.
Aw, shit. What are we going to do without our daily dose of sociopathy?
ETA: Forgot to ask...are all of your monikers leaving, or just the one?
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 27, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
Peregrine, I really liked your reply but I want to point out something that I've also pointed out in another thread.
My life is pretty good. I'm not a mess, and I don't need help... other than the support and love I'm already getting from my friends. I have equity in a house, three beautiful healthy bright kids and a whole lot of supportive friends, no real debt other than a modest mortgage, good credit, and a business I love which pays the bills. Barely, but in this day and age I'm lucky to have barely. I have other creative outlets that bring me a lot of satisfaction. By any objective standard, my life is not a mess; it's quite successful.
I've vented here about my divorce and written here about the majestic, depressing, hilarious travesty that is dating, but what TTM is trying to do, as a couple of other people have as well, is assert that anytime I say something snarky, irritated, or contradictory, it's because I'm divorced and bitter and my life is a wreck, so I'm taking it out on others.
It's nothing more than a way to discount my opinion. The unfortunate side effect is that it belittles other people in the process.
Back when my life was really a wreck and I wasn't talking about it, I was more hostile, more aggressive, and a great deal more emotional than I am now. I'm pretty sure I never posted about my husband throwing things at me, backing me into a corner and screaming at me, until I called the police and he spent the night in jail... which he blamed me for. There was a lot of shit I never posted about, horrible stressful embarrassing things, but I know I was angry, I was drinking too much, and I was far more abrasive and far less friendly than I am now.
Then, no one ever accused me of being a mess and taking it out on the board. No one ever accused me of saying I thought television was stupid because I was unhappy in my personal life. This armchair psychoanalist nonsense is pure condescending bullshit. "She's angry because her life is a mess" pats little divorcee on head.
How about the people who are angry and looking for someone to lash out at because they're depressed, anxious, and feel helpless? People who don't post about it because it makes them feel weak, or are afraid people will judge them... especially if they've been judgmental about other people looking for moral support here?
How ridiculous would it be to accuse everyone who disagrees with anyone else, or makes a snarky comment, of having a mental disorder or trouble at home? Better yet, what if we assumed that every comment had pointed malice behind it? That's what happens when you start making assumptions about the mental state behind people's posts. Once you make the assumption that someone is bitter and unhappy, you start viewing all their posts through that filter. I feel like some people stuck me in the "Unhappy bitter divorcee trainwreck" box, and that is the filter they insist on viewing me through, even though my anxiety over the divorce dissipated as soon as my ex and I came to a settlement, and since then I've been focused on work. I was heartbroken over Mario, now I'm over it and we're friends. I'm enjoying the hell out of Spring, meeting new people, and looking forward to the gallery opening next week.
There are things I want, like more money and a nice boyfriend, but I am pretty sure that those things will both happen in time.
I don't think TTM read that part of my post in that other thread, because it kind of pre-emptively takes the wind out of the sail of the OP in this thread. Sorry, guys, my life doesn't suck.
Excellent point. Whatever state your life is in is not the problem, nor a target to be attacked.
For the record my beef with you is limited to this: Attacking people and then back peddling when the heat gets too much for you.
Your personal life/gender/culture in no way matters to me only the above does.
Quote from: Faust on March 27, 2010, 11:31:50 PM
Excellent point. Whatever state your life is in is not the problem, nor a target to be attacked.
For the record my beef with you is limited to this: Attacking people and then back peddling when the heat gets too much for you.
Your personal life/gender/culture in no way matters to me only the above does.
I appreciate that you don't attack my personal life when you have a problem with me. However, I also think that you're reading my posts through a different filter, one that assumes malice, because when I said "I hate all alignment charts..." wasn't an attack on anyone. It was an idle comment about alignment charts, which led to a three-person pileon by people who
assumed I was being spiteful, for reasons unknown since I have never previously had a problem with TTM. At least, not one that I remember.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 27, 2010, 11:56:29 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 27, 2010, 11:31:50 PM
Excellent point. Whatever state your life is in is not the problem, nor a target to be attacked.
For the record my beef with you is limited to this: Attacking people and then back peddling when the heat gets too much for you.
Your personal life/gender/culture in no way matters to me only the above does.
I appreciate that you don't attack my personal life when you have a problem with me. However, I also think that you're reading my posts through a different filter, one that assumes malice, because when I said "I hate all alignment charts..." wasn't an attack on anyone. It was an idle comment about alignment charts, which led to a three-person pileon by people who assumed I was being spiteful, for reasons unknown since I have never previously had a problem with TTM. At least, not one that I remember.
So you deny attacking anyone else over the space of the last two months. What do you think caused the dogpile, even if you're intent was harmless?
Also, FTR, I don't backpedal. If anything, I escalate. And when I'm wrong, I apologize. However, I am not going to apologize for calling the people who decided to jump my shit for saying I hate all alignment charts because they're all based on TV and video games "two-legged smeg trucks" because A. I wasn't wrong, and B. that was a damn good line.
Quote from: Faust on March 27, 2010, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 27, 2010, 11:56:29 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 27, 2010, 11:31:50 PM
Excellent point. Whatever state your life is in is not the problem, nor a target to be attacked.
For the record my beef with you is limited to this: Attacking people and then back peddling when the heat gets too much for you.
Your personal life/gender/culture in no way matters to me only the above does.
I appreciate that you don't attack my personal life when you have a problem with me. However, I also think that you're reading my posts through a different filter, one that assumes malice, because when I said "I hate all alignment charts..." wasn't an attack on anyone. It was an idle comment about alignment charts, which led to a three-person pileon by people who assumed I was being spiteful, for reasons unknown since I have never previously had a problem with TTM. At least, not one that I remember.
So you deny attacking anyone else over the space of the last two months. What do you think caused the dogpile, even if you're intent was harmless?
I may well have attacked someone, without provokation, or used abrasive language in the last two months. I'm not going to deny it because I've been in arguments here, as have we all. I also recall apologizing to a person or two, so I must have thought I was in the wrong.
I am saying that in this particular case, I got my shit jumped over an assumption about what I meant by my comment. Obviously, tempers were flaring over the recent brouhaha. I responded in kind.
If you want a comparison of my overall level of abrasiveness now vs, say, two years ago, read my replies in the other "reponsibility" thread that I just bumped. I read them, and honestly, I am a much kinder gentler Nigel now.
:lulz:
Ok, I'll accept that, but please stick with it. I don't want this whole thing to flare up again, I don't have the energy for it.
Stick with what? :? I'm never going to be caterpillar bunny unicorns farting rainbows and kittens. I'm probably also never going to be quite as much of an abrasive asshole as I was when I first got here.
No one is saying you have to be sweetness and light, no one here is, but protracted arguments that spill across the forum are unnecessary and at this stage tiring.
Quote from: Faust on March 28, 2010, 02:03:16 AM
No one is saying you have to be sweetness and light, no one here is, but protracted arguments that spill across the forum are unnecessary and at this stage tiring.
Shut your goddamn whore mouth, I'm a fucking fairy princess.
:argh!:
Quote from: Nast on March 28, 2010, 02:04:29 AM
Quote from: Faust on March 28, 2010, 02:03:16 AM
No one is saying you have to be sweetness and light, no one here is, but protracted arguments that spill across the forum are unnecessary and at this stage tiring.
Shut your goddamn whore mouth, I'm a fucking fairy princess.
:argh!:
ah yes, very good.
Quote from: Nast on March 28, 2010, 02:04:29 AM
Quote from: Faust on March 28, 2010, 02:03:16 AM
No one is saying you have to be sweetness and light, no one here is, but protracted arguments that spill across the forum are unnecessary and at this stage tiring.
Shut your goddamn whore mouth, I'm a fucking fairy princess.
:argh!:
You go girl!
Quote from: NotPublished on March 28, 2010, 03:17:27 AM
Quote from: Nast on March 28, 2010, 02:04:29 AM
Quote from: Faust on March 28, 2010, 02:03:16 AM
No one is saying you have to be sweetness and light, no one here is, but protracted arguments that spill across the forum are unnecessary and at this stage tiring.
Shut your goddamn whore mouth, I'm a fucking fairy princess.
:argh!:
You go girl!
:lulz:
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 28, 2010, 12:01:37 AM
Also, FTR, I don't backpedal. If anything, I escalate. And when I'm wrong, I apologize. However, I am not going to apologize for calling the people who decided to jump my shit for saying I hate all alignment charts because they're all based on TV and video games "two-legged smeg trucks" because A. I wasn't wrong, and B. that was a damn good line.
Except that nobody jumped your shit before you completely lost your shit.
I just pointed out you had been saying "I dont like this thread/discussion" in quite a bunch of different threads, which doesnt add anything to the discussion, except a good possibility to derail them into a shitfest. Your excuse for this was OCD which you said was not our problem. To which I replied that if it causes you to derail threads into arguments about their validity, then yes, it is our problem. And THEN you were all like "Hey you know what, Fuck You" and lost your shit and started calling people smeg trucks or whatever.
So yeah, twist what you want but this is bullshit. It might not have been your intention to pick fights and cause arguments with those very inconstructive remarks, but that is why I asked nicely.
Btw sorry for protracting the argument, but I did NOT "jump her shit", so I'm not having her use that as a justification (I'm not saying backpedalling, oh noo) for her "escalating" and indeed once more derailing the entire thread into a stupid argument.
Except that I had only said something along the lines of "I don't like this thread" twice: Once in Kel's Taco Bell thread where other people were attacking the thread and I said, hey, I don't like this thread either but I don't think there's anything wrong with it, everyone likes some threads and has no interest in others, and the alignment chart thread, which got started right after that, where I said, "Does anyone really like this thread? Because I like Kel's Taco Bell thread better." If that's not blatantly tongue-in-cheek I don't know WTF is.
Later in the alignment chart thread, I said I hate all alignment charts because they're all based on stupid TV shows and video games. That's a comment on alignment charts, which was on-topic, to which Enki immediately produced an alignment chart based on classical art, which made me laugh and I said "Thanks, that's better!" Then Fred was all "You know what? If you don't like this thread don't read it" and I replied with "You know what?" Fuck off" and you and some other guy jumped in.
For some reason "My OCD is not your problem" was really inflammatory too. But it is the reason why I click on every single thread. And it's not your problem, so you don't have to tell me how I should be doin' it.
I don't know when "Fuck off" became TOO HOT TO HANDLE around here. It seems to me like half the forum has their panties wedged too far up their delicate little cracks right now. "ZOMG A SWAR WORD! MUST JOIN ARGUMENT!"
"Two legged smeg trucks" is still funny, though.
Also, 000, you are a master at escalating trivial elements to thread-derailing arguments, so hey, pot, kettle, etc.
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2010, 03:06:53 PM
Except that nobody jumped your shit before you completely lost your shit.
I can't get mad about that. I lost my shit worse.
But why are we still worrying about what happened in February? Between the endless bickering and the hostility toward people who post "fluff" threads, traffic is dropping. Not just "fluff" traffic, either. Anything resembling content is vanishing even faster.
I'd like to suggest that everyone knock it off.
On one hand, I'm reminded of the story where everyone's arguing and someone says, "WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?" "DISCORD!" etc
On the other hand,
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 28, 2010, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2010, 03:06:53 PM
Except that nobody jumped your shit before you completely lost your shit.
I can't get mad about that. I lost my shit worse.
But why are we still worrying about what happened in February? Between the endless bickering and the hostility toward people who post "fluff" threads, traffic is dropping. Not just "fluff" traffic, either. Anything resembling content is vanishing even faster.
I'd like to suggest that everyone knock it off.
For you, I will drop it.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 28, 2010, 04:55:33 PM
Except that I had only said something along the lines of "I don't like this thread" twice: Once in Kel's Taco Bell thread where other people were attacking the thread and I said, hey, I don't like this thread either but I don't think there's anything wrong with it, everyone likes some threads and has no interest in others, and the alignment chart thread, which got started right after that, where I said, "Does anyone really like this thread? Because I like Kel's Taco Bell thread better." If that's not blatantly tongue-in-cheek I don't know WTF is.
Later in the alignment chart thread, I said I hate all alignment charts because they're all based on stupid TV shows and video games. That's a comment on alignment charts, which was on-topic, to which Enki immediately produced an alignment chart based on classical art, which made me laugh and I said "Thanks, that's better!" Then Fred was all "You know what? If you don't like this thread don't read it" and I replied with "You know what?" Fuck off" and you and some other guy jumped in.
For some reason "My OCD is not your problem" was really inflammatory too. But it is the reason why I click on every single thread. And it's not your problem, so you don't have to tell me how I should be doin' it.
I don't know when "Fuck off" became TOO HOT TO HANDLE around here. It seems to me like half the forum has their panties wedged too far up their delicate little cracks right now. "ZOMG A SWAR WORD! MUST JOIN ARGUMENT!"
Ahhh, okay. Then we are in agreement. If you're cool I'm cool.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 28, 2010, 05:19:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 28, 2010, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on March 28, 2010, 03:06:53 PM
Except that nobody jumped your shit before you completely lost your shit.
I can't get mad about that. I lost my shit worse.
But why are we still worrying about what happened in February? Between the endless bickering and the hostility toward people who post "fluff" threads, traffic is dropping. Not just "fluff" traffic, either. Anything resembling content is vanishing even faster.
I'd like to suggest that everyone knock it off.
For you, I will drop it.
:)
This post got me the information I wanted. I'm willing to let this incident go now.
Response-provoking intent of this post aside, I did mean what I said in the OP and it applies to everybody.
Yes, you're going to face adversity but you're just going to keep getting shat on if you don't do something about it. People have more control over their lives than they think and every minute a person spends feeling bad for themselves or otherwise not actively working to solve the problems they encounter is just another shovel-load of horseshit.
It's easy to get discouraged or depressed and it's easy to seek sympathy from others, but these things don't fix problems.
Climbing out of a shit-hole is challenging at best, but god damnit, it's worth it and it's not impossible.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 28, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
This post got me the information I wanted. I'm willing to let this incident go now.
Response-provoking intent of this post aside, I did mean what I said in the OP and it applies to everybody.
Yes, you're going to face adversity but you're just going to keep getting shat on if you don't do something about it. People have more control over their lives than they think and every minute a person spends feeling bad for themselves or otherwise not actively working to solve the problems they encounter is just another shovel-load of horseshit.
It's easy to get discouraged or depressed and it's easy to seek sympathy from others, but these things don't fix problems.
Climbing out of a shit-hole is challenging at best, but god damnit, it's worth it and it's not impossible.
Agreed 110%. I was stuck in a hole a few years back. It would've been easy to curl up in a ball and just hope shit turns out, but I had to finally buckle down and get shit done. With a little perseverance shit can be navigated. It's never easy. But it does feel nice when you work it out yourself.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 28, 2010, 11:20:11 PM
1) Nigel started shit with me and a lot of posters I like. She's a big girl and she can stick up for herself. You're the one who's always taking about pills like they're fucking candy.
2) I stop posting funny shit because I have things I need to take care of IRL and you throw 8 shit-fits about how I stabbed everyone in the back. I post some funny shit in response and you throw 8 more shit-fits about how I stabbed you in the back. Get over it man.
Hey TTM, I was wondering if you would mind sharing your list of people it's OK to shit on for "fun"? Just so that nobody ever accidentally tells anyone on your personal white knight list to fuck off. It'll save you so much energy, in the long run.
By the way, PMing to say things you're too chickenshit to say in public is for cowards. Never PM me again, from any of your alts, you disgusting hypocrite.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 29, 2010, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 28, 2010, 11:20:11 PM
1) Nigel started shit with me and a lot of posters I like. She's a big girl and she can stick up for herself. You're the one who's always taking about pills like they're fucking candy.
2) I stop posting funny shit because I have things I need to take care of IRL and you throw 8 shit-fits about how I stabbed everyone in the back. I post some funny shit in response and you throw 8 more shit-fits about how I stabbed you in the back. Get over it man.
Hey TTM, I was wondering if you would mind sharing your list of people it's OK to shit on for "fun"? Just so that nobody ever accidentally tells anyone on your personal white knight list to fuck off. It'll save you so much energy, in the long run.
By the way, PMing to say things you're too chickenshit to say in public is for cowards. Never PM me again, from any of your alts, you disgusting hypocrite.
Oh, we can drag this out into the open if you really want to. I considered posting it here but decided to PM it instead. I haven't sent you anything from any account but this one, nice attempt at insinuating I'm hiding behind alts though.
I was trying to let the drama die down but you obviously want it to continue. So go right ahead. Let everyone see how bat-shit insane you are. Call me a misogynist because I called you out on your bullshit. Tell me I'm a liar because... why not?
This is what I sent via PM:
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 28, 2010, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 27, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
I don't think TTM read that part of my post in that other thread, because it kind of pre-emptively takes the wind out of the sail of the OP in this thread. Sorry, guys, my life doesn't suck.
I don't think you realize I'm not talking about your choices IRL or your shitty divorce or any of that when I called you out on stirring shit and being a passive-aggressive bitch on the boards. I'm sorry you've had problems IRL and I'm sorry you had a bad marriage but frankly, I don't really care about your personal life. I don't know you and I don't even really like your online persona half the time. I try not to read your threads because the majority of the ones I've seen are you complaining or writing poetry and they don't entertain me (which is the only reason I come here). I deal with peoples' enough problems in real life, I don't want to see them here so I tend to ignore threads that are full of drama. If you want to post that sort of shit though, I'm not going to stop you.
However, when you start stirring shit with me or with posters I think are alright (like 000, Faust, Noodle, and Net) I'm going to jump down your throat. You can call me a sexist or a chauvinist or whatever other hysterical ad-hominem attacks (indirect or otherwise) you want to fling but it's not going to stop me. If you think I'm going to cut you any more slack than a male poster pulling the same shit, you're not only wrong but you're the one who's a sexist.
Now, I'm going to leave this alone but if you start up with this shit again I'm going to start acting like an asshole towards you again. For the record, I haven't been that much of a dick yet as far as I'm concerned. I try not to tear into people like I used to and you're not all bad but that doesn't mean I won't take a shit on you if you start shitting on me or people I like for no good reason.
So, I'm willing to consider all this water under the bridge now. If you've got legitimate beef with someone, that's one thing but if you're going to just stir shit you should probably do it to people who Have It Coming.
Wow. Look at all the horrible things I said. Damn Nigel, you want some ointment for all those sick burns?
I can't believe I even said that shit. Ouch.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go oppress some women and tell everyone how great I am because I'm a man.
EDIT: Wow, keep sending PMs you crazy bitch. Be sure to publicly complain about it later.
AND YA DON'T STOP!
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Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 25, 2010, 11:41:37 PM
(Alternatively titled: Oh, this is how we're doing it? Alright, fuck it. I can do that too.)
BAWWWWWWW!!1 MY LIEF IS SO HORRIBEL! ALSO FUCK YOU BECAUSE I'M UNHAPPY WITH MY LIFE!
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FUCK! HOW DID THINGS BECOME SO BAD!? HOW DID I GET HERE?!
Through your own goddamn choices, that's how. You can choose to piss and moan about it. You can choose to be a passive-aggressive drama-whore. You can even choose to take your problems out on other people, but at the end of the day none of that is going to help you. All of your choices have consequences and the consequences don't fucking care if you don't want to deal with them or if you're incapable of coping in a reasonable way.
You're a fucking adult, deal with your problems. It's nobody else's fault. YOU made the decisions that brought you to where you are. Maybe you made some bad choices. It's OK, everyone does. Welcome to reality.
Shitty things WILL happen to you. People you count on will disappoint you. People will abuse you; maybe even try to kill you. This happens to all of us. When we deal with these events in a shitty way, refuse to learn from our personal tragedies, and treat people who aren't responsible for our problems like shit, it's not going to make anything better. In fact, it's only going to create new problems.
All the little choices a person makes in a day come together to form their environment. These choices can be so seemingly insignificant that we make them without even thinking. To the person making them, they might not even realize they're making them, but the consequences know all the choices we make, no matter how insignificant they might seem.
So, you can keep on doing what you've been doing. You can keep repeating the actions that brought you to the place you're at or you can own up to it and take a hard look at who you are and the choices you've made. You can start making connections to your actions and their results. Things that might have seemed insignificant to you at the time may have had profound consequences that you didn't see before. You might even learn how to stop repeating the behaviors that got you here.
Can you control the world? Of course not. The world can, and probably will, shit on you.
If you're smart you might be able to take steps to mitigate the damage when the world does shit on you, but the only thing you can control is how you react to the world. The consequences don't give a fuck about you, but that doesn't mean they can't help you. You can learn from the consequences and you might be able to transcend your horrible little monkey. You could even become self-aware one day like one of those new drones the military uses or a furby.
Damn good post. Thank you for the reminder.
:thanks:
It's an easy thing to forget when shit is hitting the fan.
TTM, I told Roger that I was letting it drop. Letting it drop doesn't include keeping it up in PM. Interestingly, you don't ACTUALLY have to say everything you think.
Great then let it drop. Stop sending me PMs. Stop bothering me. Stop stirring shit.
I'll say what I think if I want to. Nobody is going to stop me from doing that, especially not you.
You started the PMs. I asked you to stop. All it takes.
Imma gonna PM puns to both of you. The ones that I thought were too awful to post here.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNEDED!!!!
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 31, 2010, 01:13:15 AM
Imma gonna PM puns to both of you. The ones that I thought were too awful to post here.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNEDED!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOO! :x Anything but that! :aww:
Don't make me turn this thread around!
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 31, 2010, 01:11:21 AM
You started the PMs. I asked you to stop. All it takes.
Then fuck off already, Christ.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 31, 2010, 01:13:15 AM
Imma gonna PM puns to both of you. The ones that I thought were too awful to post here.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNEDED!!!!
If I stop, will you PM them anyways?
Nah, I ain't got nothing. I could send you some of my son's diapers. He craps like a champ!
Suuuuuure, here's my mailing address:
Glenn Beck
Glenn Beck Program
1133 Avenue of the Americas
Floor 34
New York, NY 10036
USA
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 31, 2010, 01:17:32 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 31, 2010, 01:11:21 AM
You started the PMs. I asked you to stop. All it takes.
Then fuck off already, Christ.
:? Off where? It's not like I've been PMing you.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on March 31, 2010, 01:26:00 AM
Suuuuuure, here's my mailing address:
Glenn Beck
Glenn Beck Program
1133 Avenue of the Americas
Floor 34
New York, NY 10036
USA
Oh, dear. I hope that doesn't fall into the wrong hands.
Dok,
The wrong hands.
This seems like an appropriate thread to throw this into:
Magnets Can Manipulate Morality
Magnetic fields targeting the moral center of the brain could scramble our sense of right and wrong.
http://news.discovery.com/tech/magnet-brain-morality.html
1: Cool article.
2: The Can/Could language in the Title/Subtitle made me :lail:
That is incredibly interesting, and makes me wonder about magnetic effects on people who work regularly near high-powered magnets and also those who are, through necessity, subjected to frequent MRIs. As an aside, one of the most empathetic friends I have works in the MRI department at a local hospital.