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Title: "The Number 23"
Post by: cheeseball on July 02, 2008, 07:21:50 PM
I just saw that there is a movie called, "The Number 23."  The description didn't really say much except about the repetition of the number and something about paranoia.  Has anyone seen it?  Post up a review?
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Cramulus on July 02, 2008, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on December 24, 2007, 09:16:17 PM
I finally saw the number 23. I fell asleep for about about 40 minutes somewhere in the middle. Judging from what the other people in the room said, I don't think it affected the movie for me.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 02, 2008, 07:47:27 PM
It is one of the most annoying movies I have ever seen.  If you do not pay attention you get lost and then in the end you're like fuck, I could have watched the last 30 minutes and that would have been interesting cause they just drug out for 2 hours 30 minutes of ok.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: LMNO on July 02, 2008, 08:13:11 PM
Not a good movie.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: hooplala on July 02, 2008, 08:13:55 PM
Here's my review:   :vom:
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Payne on July 02, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
Fuck Jim Carrey right in his puckered starfish.

Granted, this is not a review of the movie, it's more of an incitement to anal raep. So it goes.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 02, 2008, 09:47:29 PM
It was about on par with "The Butterfly Effect".
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Cain on July 02, 2008, 10:07:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on July 02, 2008, 09:47:29 PM
It was about on par with "The Butterfly Effect" Police Academy 7

Fixed.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on July 03, 2008, 12:11:58 AM
Quote from: Payne on July 02, 2008, 08:17:39 PM
Fuck Jim Carrey right in his puckered starfish.

Granted, this is not a review of the movie, it's more of an incitement to anal raep. So it goes.

TITCM
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 03, 2008, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 02, 2008, 10:07:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on July 02, 2008, 09:47:29 PM
It was about on par with "The Butterfly Effect" Police Academy 7

Fixed.

Wow, you're giving it a lot more credit than I did...  :lulz:

Of course, rarely have I hated a movie more than I hated "The Butterfly Effect". I don't think Pauly Shore could have done worse.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 03, 2008, 01:47:38 AM
Ive always like Virginia Madsen ever since Candyman

Personally I don't think its as bad as people here say
quick review first act is pretty good
second act little poor
third act kind of flaccid
I actually think the ending kind of works, and most peoples objections and I think its more the climax that people have a problem with
It is slow moving (which is actually not a problem with me, actually i prefer movies that slow moving)
I think the major problem lies although the number is causing all these problems but for some reason the problems themselfs seems semi-interesting, and i think it's one of those scripts that would have made a better movie if done outside of the movie studio
Like the De Vinci Code (far worse movie by the way) it's at it best when everything is coded but dull when the plot comes into play

but all in all i didn't hate myself for watching but wouldn't watch it again
if i had to rate it out of 5 i would probably give it a 2 or 3 depending on my mood at the time

then again according to many dates I have horrible tastes in movies
:sad:

Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on July 03, 2008, 03:07:10 AM
It wants to be "The Machinist" which isn't an excellent film, but decent.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Xooxe on July 03, 2008, 06:55:33 PM
I can't actually remember much of what happened in The Machinist but I remember disliking it as much as both The Number 23 and The Butterfly Effect.

Another weak example of 'head-fuck' in modern cinema is Stay. Maybe I would have hated it less if I hadn't have seen Jacob's Ladder or anything by Lynch.

It's all become one big clusterfuck of similar plot twists. "Oh dear, I seem to have been dead all along", or "so, if we're two people then which one of us is me if we exist anyway?" and plenty of variations along those lines.

Besides all that, though, I vaguely remember The Number 23 actually doing the number a bit of justice. Hazy memory of it. I'd have to watch it again to say.

PD needs a thread for films in general or else I'll suddenly start asking questions like, why did The Truman Show, Dark City and The Matrix all come out in the space of two years?
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on July 03, 2008, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 03, 2008, 06:55:33 PM
I can't actually remember much of what happened in The Machinist but I remember disliking it as much as both The Number 23 and The Butterfly Effect.

The plot was pretty much on the same level, maybe a bit better, but I thought the cinematography in The Machinist was better. Also Christian Bale actually starved his ass to get to unhealthy levels of skinny, which helped sell the insanity.

It helps to not be completely sober when watching either film though - they're not spectacular films or anything.

The Butterfly Effect was much worse than The Number 23 or The Machinist IMO.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Cain on July 03, 2008, 09:30:41 PM
Police Academy 7 was worse than all of them.  Put together.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on July 06, 2008, 09:35:09 AM
this movie?

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/364437274_05ee242ef1.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on July 07, 2008, 07:15:05 PM
Butterfly effect fucking pwns!  :argh!:

number23 was monkeywank

Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: AFK on July 07, 2008, 08:24:19 PM
Wasn't that Ashton Kutcher's "serious" movie? 
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 07, 2008, 08:50:39 PM
At the end of it I was left with the moral that it would have been better if the movie had never been made.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: AFK on July 07, 2008, 08:54:07 PM
"Dude, What's My Line?"

eh, it sounded funny in my head. 
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Voodoo on July 08, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
Wow.  if # 23 is this bad, I'll have to go rent it!
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Iason Ouabache on July 09, 2008, 03:30:48 AM
Quote from: Rev. Voodoo on July 08, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
Wow.  if # 23 is this bad, I'll have to go rent it!

(http://www.pop-arena.com/articles/akbar/akbar1.jpg)
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on July 09, 2008, 06:34:18 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 03, 2008, 06:55:33 PM

It's all become one big clusterfuck of similar plot twists. "Oh dear, I seem to have been dead all along", or "so, if we're two people then which one of us is me if we exist anyway?" and plenty of variations along those lines.

Precisely why I hate the majority of the movies coming out these days.  They take the style of plot twist that worked good in Fight Club and maybe a few other earlier movies (I'm sure there may be others but I can't think off the top of my head) and have just beat it to death. 

So sure, I liked The Number 23 until about 10 minutes in when I realized "Oh hey! This movie's gonna end with the same stupid twist that every other movie is leeching off of!! Can't wait!"
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: LMNO on July 09, 2008, 06:50:30 PM
"No, Jim Carey, YOU are the killer."

And Jim Carey was the killer.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 10, 2008, 12:15:08 AM
Yes. Yes, exactly.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Voodoo on July 10, 2008, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on July 09, 2008, 03:30:48 AM
Quote from: Rev. Voodoo on July 08, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
Wow.  if # 23 is this bad, I'll have to go rent it!

(http://www.pop-arena.com/articles/akbar/akbar1.jpg)

I love how quickly the internets twist sayings...

I looked at this and was like, how is the # 23 a tarp?
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 10, 2008, 07:42:31 PM
Quote from: Rev. Voodoo on July 10, 2008, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on July 09, 2008, 03:30:48 AM
Quote from: Rev. Voodoo on July 08, 2008, 02:53:22 PM
Wow.  if # 23 is this bad, I'll have to go rent it!

(http://www.pop-arena.com/articles/akbar/akbar1.jpg)

I love how quickly the internets twist sayings...

I looked at this and was like, how is the # 23 a tarp?

OK, this actually made me chuckle aloud.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Xooxe on July 13, 2008, 01:50:18 AM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 09, 2008, 06:34:18 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 03, 2008, 06:55:33 PM

It's all become one big clusterfuck of similar plot twists. "Oh dear, I seem to have been dead all along", or "so, if we're two people then which one of us is me if we exist anyway?" and plenty of variations along those lines.

Precisely why I hate the majority of the movies coming out these days.  They take the style of plot twist that worked good in Fight Club and maybe a few other earlier movies (I'm sure there may be others but I can't think off the top of my head) and have just beat it to death. 

The plot twist at the end of Fight Club was blatantly inspired by Persona which was made back in 1966 I think.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 14, 2008, 05:58:03 AM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 13, 2008, 01:50:18 AM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 09, 2008, 06:34:18 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 03, 2008, 06:55:33 PM

It's all become one big clusterfuck of similar plot twists. "Oh dear, I seem to have been dead all along", or "so, if we're two people then which one of us is me if we exist anyway?" and plenty of variations along those lines.

Precisely why I hate the majority of the movies coming out these days.  They take the style of plot twist that worked good in Fight Club and maybe a few other earlier movies (I'm sure there may be others but I can't think off the top of my head) and have just beat it to death. 

The plot twist at the end of Fight Club was blatantly inspired by Persona which was made back in 1966 I think.

The plot twist at the end of Fight Club was blatantly inspired by every other suspense movie ever made.

"No, Edward. You are Tyler Durden"
And then Edward was a zombie.

The difference in Fight Club is that it wasn't obvious 1/4 through the movie.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Xooxe on July 14, 2008, 06:29:57 AM
I didn't mean it in a bad way. It just seemed obvious to me, and I think it was done on purpose maybe.

Edit, because I think I misread your post due to the imaginary tone of voice in my head. Yay.

I haven't seen every other suspense movie ever made.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on July 14, 2008, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on July 14, 2008, 05:58:03 AM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 13, 2008, 01:50:18 AM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 09, 2008, 06:34:18 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 03, 2008, 06:55:33 PM

It's all become one big clusterfuck of similar plot twists. "Oh dear, I seem to have been dead all along", or "so, if we're two people then which one of us is me if we exist anyway?" and plenty of variations along those lines.

Precisely why I hate the majority of the movies coming out these days.  They take the style of plot twist that worked good in Fight Club and maybe a few other earlier movies (I'm sure there may be others but I can't think off the top of my head) and have just beat it to death. 

The plot twist at the end of Fight Club was blatantly inspired by Persona which was made back in 1966 I think.

The plot twist at the end of Fight Club was blatantly inspired by every other suspense movie ever made.

"No, Edward. You are Tyler Durden"
And then Edward was a zombie.

The difference in Fight Club is that it wasn't obvious 1/4 through the movie.

Yea, I figured Fight Club may not have been the first, but it was the first I saw with that type of ending and more importantly, as Nigel said it wasn't blatantly obvious. Regardless, the tons of other movies using that same plot twist have completely killed it, by just being so completely stupid and obvious about it.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Voodoo on July 14, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
e.g., "a beautiful mind"  I saw a preview and told my wife i bet Ed Harris' character isn't real.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: LMNO on July 15, 2008, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 13, 2008, 01:50:18 AM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 09, 2008, 06:34:18 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on July 03, 2008, 06:55:33 PM

It's all become one big clusterfuck of similar plot twists. "Oh dear, I seem to have been dead all along", or "so, if we're two people then which one of us is me if we exist anyway?" and plenty of variations along those lines.

Precisely why I hate the majority of the movies coming out these days.  They take the style of plot twist that worked good in Fight Club and maybe a few other earlier movies (I'm sure there may be others but I can't think off the top of my head) and have just beat it to death. 

The plot twist at the end of Fight Club was blatantly inspired by the book Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: Xooxe on July 15, 2008, 07:27:32 PM
Alright then. It seems blatant to me that Fight Club by Palahniuk was partially inspired by Persona. Fight Club is virtually the same story anyway as far as book to film conversions go.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: LMNO on July 15, 2008, 08:07:47 PM
I have to disagree; that would be like saying The Good The Bad and The Ugly is the same as The Magnificent Seven because they're both westerns.

While the theme of personal duality is common to both, the purposes of the split, and the resuting actions are wildly different, not the least being the method of resolving the split.

Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: hooplala on July 15, 2008, 11:49:14 PM
Fight Club is a blatant rip off of Beautiful Losers, by Leonard Cohen... right down to the soap.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: LMNO on July 16, 2008, 01:23:09 PM
"Beautiful Losers" was a blatant rip off of "St Alfonso's Pancake Breakfast" by Zappa.
Title: Re: "The Number 23"
Post by: hooplala on July 16, 2008, 01:58:19 PM
Snap!