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"All attempted organizations and systems and consistencies, some approximating far higher than others, but all only intermediate to Order and Disorder, fail eventually because of their relations with outside forces."

Has anybody else read anything by this guy? He's fucking insane.

It seems he wrote most of his material in the 1920's, and he seems to be the epitome of a lovecraftian character. He was obsessed with unexplained phenomenon, and he did research on scientific journals of the time for over twenty years.

I just bought the Complete Books of Charles Fort today, but most of his material is public domain. Book of the Damned is available on http://www.sacred-texts.com/fort/damned/damn01.htm

When I try to imagine the relationships between opposites, between positive and negative magnetic poles, between positive and negative particles of matter, etc... it leads me to believe that this great cosmic mass is nothing more than a chaotic whirlwind of activity caused by all of these forces interacting, and that eventually there will merely be a primordial cosmic soup of very low frequency energy where nothing at all will happen. A great equilibrium, if you will.

The scientific word for this is "entropy" I believe...

Yes.

Smoking Al Capones.
I'm going to die today.
Or maybe next week.

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Calvin and Hobbes was awesome because bill watterson actually had some fucking cojones. He resisted the corporate machine for as long as he could, but eventually he had to give in (hence the calvin bumper stickers these days.)

In the old days, I also really liked Bloom County (AKA outland) and even some Doonesbury (being a huge Hunter S. Thompson fan, I ((sort of)) idolized Duke.)

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Right now, I'm reading the first one (if you call keeping it in your backpack reading).

When I'm done, I'll try and "read" the eagles gift, or the second ring of power.

I have those, and I have the power of silence, and journey to ixtlan.

That is all the castaneda I have read.

dont mock my smock.

Roman Catholic seems pretty unique for the Discordia message board. You get two points.

I wanted to start a thread where people would state their thoughts on philosophy to a certain degree, to perhaps coax people to speak about their own thoughts (and also to give myself a venue by which I can present my own). I will begin.

I've been enamored with pantheism, in some of its aspects. Pantheism is usually seen as defining the concept of god as the universe, or simply all of existence. I'm not truly theistic in this sense, because I dont literally worship anything, nor do I necessarily believe in any deity (self aware, or otherwise) as have tended humans tend to personify them.

I can best describe this through a metaphor involving numbers, although I warn you that I am not particularly brilliant when it comes to mathematics.

If you take everything that exists, and look at it as an objective whole you can say that it is One thing. Then you see anything that exists as a part of that (like an individual human) and say that it is essentially nothing more than a subdivision of that whole. You can divide one a million different ways, and you still have just one thing.

Technically the value of the universe in this case is a variable, because each of its fractions relate to each other. You have a chaotic system, but no matter what each of those fractions do you will still be able to add it all up and look at it as being an objective whole. There is a duality with that.

I'm not sure exactly where I'm going with this, but I find that I always try to distance myself from human perspective in anything. I see humans as an aspect of nature, unique in that they are self aware and can create, yet not unique in that what they do is relatively inconsequential in universal terms.

When I think about what the human race is, I look at its cities and its networks of energy transfer and intercommunication, I see a primitive neural network being built, I also see massive equivilents of many other systems that we see in the human body... or in, say, a fungus.

I think an alien entity might think that the entire human race was simply a fungus, and not intelligent at all.

I think each individual human is little more than a single cell of a gigantic fungal bloom, and whats more... they are relatively unconcious of this fact. We build our worlds around our own perceptions, and as a result we tend to be vain and self centered creatures. Each individual human tends to be concerned primarily with its own needs, or worse... its wants. We like to do things that make us feel important, and we like to convince ourselves that these are noble aspirations.

We are unique, in a weird way, at least on this planet. We are evolving very quickly, but not necessarily in a literal physical sense. Technology has eliminated survival of the fittest as a factor in evolution, and now technology is the next phase of evolution. (television, the internet, highways, etc).

I do not apply negative or positive connotations to these things. These are merely passive observations, and I feel that the very concept of "good" or "bad" are purely human in their nature, and not a part of the nature of the universe as a whole (positive and negative, on the other hand, are. No connotation, just presence and absence).

When I try to imagine the relationships between opposites, between positive and negative magnetic poles, between positive and negative particles of matter, etc... it leads me to believe that this great cosmic mass is nothing more than a chaotic whirlwind of activity caused by all of these forces interacting, and that eventually there will merely be a primordial cosmic soup of very low frequency energy where nothing at all will happen. A great equilibrium, if you will.

Right now, this is how Zahn sees things. I'd like to hear peoples opinions on my opinions, and I'd like other people to state their own opinions so we have a frame of reference. Thank you.

Also, for reference, I'd like to say that my interest in philosophy began with eastern culture/history when I was very young... and although I've evolved a lot since then, taoism is still a huge influence on my thoughts.

Positive and Negative forces are the frameworks of the Tao, and its great because you can almost literally apply it to a variety of scientific fields. It seems to me like the Tao has true merit as being the underlying force of the universe, or at least a fairly close human understanding of it.

Thanks again!

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Remember to drain the blood,
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I like those books.

I'm Re-reading the first one right now, but i'm lazy so I'll probably just go to sleep.

All in all, they're probably the most illuminating books I've read so far. (with the possible exception of The Godfather).

(this has been post FIVE FIVE FIVE, Thank you and good night)

I posted that in the wrong thread, so to punish you all, here is another random webcomic.

http://www.geocities.com/lofijunk/pop.html

Go ahead, click it.

Was I the only one who was about to click the link until I read the last line and then got to scared?
*shaking*

Boo!

Yeah, in a weird way.

All we do is make fun of him... but he is our messiah.

Well... heres what binder had to say in his defense.

For the last time:  Wake up.  Have a hard-on.  Roll over.  Went into couch.  Thought about it for a minute then thought "wow this is incredibly retarded".  Took a shower and jerked off.  

Everyone needs to fuck off and make fun of the kid that "gets so much ass" yet still feels the need to SEEK OUT A COUCH TO FUCK FOR 15 FUCKING MINUTES UNTIL HE BLOWS HIS LOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FUCK YOU ALL!!!

This is after people were trying to figure out what his nicknames were, and Couch Fucker was brought up.

Honestly, I think he has tons more nicknames.

Binderclese
Lord Bindermeyer
Bindiana Jones and the Temple of DUDE! (and/or SWEET!)
Bindocalypse Now
etc...

He defends himself by saying that even though his erect penis was in the couch, he didnt actually "fuck" the couch. Most people still mock him for this, though it occured several years ago.

On the other hand, there is another person I know who actually did go "all the way" with said couch. I wont get into that.

That sort of thing is semi-common here... at least amongst Francis Rhoe (who goes all the way).

Another person I know lit his own testicles on fire, twice! Now that I think of it, I know a lot of Jack-Asses.