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#91
Cool article! Really makes me question the efficacy of neurofeedback as treatment.

Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 17, 2013, 10:43:17 PM

QuoteDr. John Krystal, Editor of Biological Psychiatry commented, "These data shed interesting light into the drive to achieve social status, a basic social process. It would make sense that people who had higher levels of D2 receptors, i.e., were more highly motivated and engaged by social situations, would be high achievers and would have higher levels of social support."

WHOA WHOA WHOA SAY WHAT? Back that train up! Did this guy really just attribute cause and effect to this correlation? And worse, did he really just make a statement which implies that there is a biological basis for poverty?

FUCK NO.

But he did. He said that.

This. Everything I've read about neurofeedback, including stuff in medical journals makes this leap concerning correlation and cause. Most of the ADD studies are basically: Well, we see an excess of theta waves and less than normal beta waves on EEG in ADHD patients. We'll just train their brain to produce more beta and less theta then they'll be cured. No more ADHD.

Despite the fact that all they have is correlation and we still don't know what else the different wave forms could mean. When you get into amatuers attempting to do neurofeedback they jump to conclusions even quicker. There may be a place for neurofeedback in therapy but no one really knows for sure and the implications haven't been studied enough. Also most of the papers published on neurofeedback are from the doctors who are charging money for it. Reminds me of the grasshoppers with no legs can't hear joke.

Super cool articles and very relevant to my interests.
#92
If I'm not mistaken the pool on the roof was first referenced in the Code of Urukagina a Sumerian stone fragment dating back to 2400 BC.  It is a law code from the City-State of Lagash shortly before they lost a border skirmish with Uruk.

The pool is mentioned briefly right before 'the rich must use silver when purchasing from the poor' but after the proper instructions for ritual food and drink libations.

I hope this helps.
#93
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 17, 2013, 06:45:11 PM
What is fascinating to me about this game, and all games of its ilk, is that it is totally entertaining mostly because it triggers the hoarding urge. NEED TO MAKE MORE COOKIES. MORE MORE MORE. Even though there is literally zero benefit from any of this.

It would be interesting if they added a game mechanic that showed what the consequences of such exponential hoarding were. Showing scorched earth cityscapes and the lower quality of life of the grandmas as the cookie industrial complex expands.

It reminds me of another game called Oiligarchy, which puts the player in the role of an oil tycoon. Your job is to exploit the oil to gain money to make more oil while keeping your shareholders happy. This is easy at the beginning but by the end as the oil runs out more it forces the player to do progressively more morally wrong things. Bribing politicians, squelching protests, destroying the environment, and creating unrest in third world countries are all things that the player is forced to do if you want to win. It's a pretty fun game but also illustrates a good point.

http://www.molleindustria.org/en/oiligarchy/
#94
Quote from: Pæs on August 17, 2013, 11:12:50 AM
You have a knack for these.

I suggest checking out http://animalstalkinginallcaps.tumblr.com/ for a curated collection of animals seeming to DO things.

I'll definitely check that out.

Quote from: Triple Zero on August 17, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 17, 2013, 02:05:06 AMI did make a couple more. I actually took some heat on facebook for the Anne Frank one. I thought to myself, I can totally make one more offensive than that one.

How is the Anne Frank image offensive, at all?

I mean the DBZ Goku/time travel/Anne Frank slashfic, that was offensive. And IIRC it was consensual. Um, Anyway,

this pic is pretty straight to the point, it asks two questions, Did Anne Frank have nothing to hide? And if so, did she have nothing to fear?

the only offensive thing here is the situation that allows for this comparison.

Yeah it seemed to drive the point home for me. I was a little surprised that people got upset. The nothing to hide argument for me has always been flawed by the unspoken premise that our overlords are benevolent and perfect.

It really only was a couple people and they weren't too upset. The stance they took was that I was using a tragic story to further political ideology. I disagree with this and pointed out they didn't say a damn thing about Alan Turing. I think the holocaust is just a touchy FB subject. I also suspect that what they were really upset about is that it made a valid point against against the nothing to hide argument, which they both adhere to.

But then again, I have a rather wide cross section of politics and religions among my FB friends. It's one of the reasons I go there to rant and put these up, because I think it's a good thing to have an audience where some of them disagree with you. It's made me think about things from time to time and hopefully I've made them think.
#95
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
August 17, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
I can now personally attest that Moo Cluck Moo is pretty awesome.

It doesn't have a drive thu window and its more like a diner in that regard but you can still get some good food in less than 5 minutes. I had a Moo burger with bacon and a Fat Cow Milkshake. Both were pretty good although you're right, it's about comparable to a local coney island burger or other diner, which is still fairly tastier than McDonalds. (although that's not a high bar)

They also use only nonantibiotic nongrowthhormone milk, beef, and chicken. When possible they buy from local michigan farmers/suppliers. All their soda comes from the Northwoods Soda company based in northern Michigan and uses natural cane. They even bake their own buns each day.

http://www.moocluckmoo.com/#!food/cfbl
QuoteAll Natural Berkshire Bacon:​
Our superior bacon comes from Eden Farms  acorn fed, 100% Berkshire heirloom pork.  Eden Farms is owned by 30 Midwest farm families committed to practicing humane, ecological and sustainable farming practices. Pigs are raised in open, unconfined spaces, fed a 100% vegetarian diet and are never given antibiotics or hormones for growth.

The workers that I spoke with confirmed that they do indeed get started at $12 an hour. It's also not in a very ritzy area. Telegraph road is kinda like 8 mile rd only without so many strip clubs. The food was reasonably priced. They have a limited menu but most things are $3-$6 (actually $3 not this $2.99 BS) They also deliver, although I'm way out of their area.

The owner/manager who was working their explained it to me like this: "People vote with their dollar. If we do the right things we give people something good to vote for and we stay in business and everybody wins."

It seems a little silly to rave about the place like this, but I've tried to find a cynical angle for this place and can't find one. It really does seem pretty awesome. I hope it catches on.

#97
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
August 17, 2013, 04:44:55 AM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 16, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
This could just be a marketing gimmick. If so, its working. I'm planning to go eat there tomorrow.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/08/06/fast-food-joint-pays-workers-12-an-hour-and-lives-to-tell-the-tale/

I'm always leary of posting news that have video from work because I can't see the video. Hopefully its not just 12 minutes of a guy screaming ethnic slurs. I'm just assuming its not.

That's pretty awesome, actually.

Sure seems that way. I'm driving right by there tomorrow. I'll let you know how the food is.
#98
This is absolutely delightful.

All hail the Mighty Glow Cloud!
#100
0 minutes- Man, what a silly game. Some people will play anything.

1 minutes- Heh, it's kind of neat.

2 minutes- Whoah I can buy stuff.

3 minutes- Need to go to the bathroom but that can wait. Gotta get that factory.

20 minutes- MY COOKIES WILL DARKEN THE SKIES THEMSELVES!!! SEE MY INDUSTRIAL MIGHT AND DESPAIR!!!
#101
Oh and feel free to make your own and post them here. The more the merrier.
#102
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 16, 2013, 09:56:08 PM
The Turing one is great. Thread in general is top notch. Sisyphusssy. Class.

Mcgrupp, you taking requests? If so: Ghandi, Petreaus and MLK give you any ideas? For those 3 you did with actual people, maybe go for accepted popular icons and divert from there?

Idi Amin always gets laughs too.

The Turing one is my favorite of the nothing to hide ones. I actually think I'm done with them for now though. I'm trying to come up with ones more like the dolphin one or the circular reasoning from a book one. Reason being is that I'm not sure the nothing to hide ones really help change anyone's minds, with the exception of the Turing one as it encourages people to look him up.

I figure if people are resistant to idea C then the best way to get them there is a A points to B image that might make them get to C on their own. That way they think it's their idea.

I did make a couple more. I actually took some heat on facebook for the Anne Frank one. I thought to myself, I can totally make one more offensive than that one.



and one that is nonsensical


#104
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
August 16, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
This could just be a marketing gimmick. If so, its working. I'm planning to go eat there tomorrow.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/08/06/fast-food-joint-pays-workers-12-an-hour-and-lives-to-tell-the-tale/

I'm always leary of posting news that have video from work because I can't see the video. Hopefully its not just 12 minutes of a guy screaming ethnic slurs. I'm just assuming its not.
#105
This has weakened my soulbond to Burger Time for the Atari 2600. I am further from Mr Egg than ever before.

I find this to be a rather eloquent defense of juggalos. Never looked at it that way.