Poll
Question:
WHO IS WINNING AT THIS MOMENT?
Option 1: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II
votes: 1
Option 2: MILTON MILLIONS ROMNEY JR.
votes: 2
Option 3: THE TERRORISTS
votes: 7
Option 4: THE MACHINE™
votes: 18
THIS JUST IN: PRESIDENT OBAMA FORFEITS DEBATE ON "I'D RATHER NOT HAVE A CONFRONTATION WITH A REPUBLICAN, CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG" GROUNDS.
What? Nuh uh, did he really? :lulz:
FUCK IT I VOTED FOR ROMNEY!
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 02:09:25 AM
FUCK IT I VOTED FOR ROMNEY!
Might as well. 15 minutes in, Romney is stomping all over Obama.
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 02:13:49 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 02:09:25 AM
FUCK IT I VOTED FOR ROMNEY!
Might as well. 15 minutes in, Romney is stomping all over Obama.
OOH it's so snappy! Actually this thread is the only reason why i'm watching this thing in the first place
If I hear "middle class Americans" one more time my ears are going to bleed.
Also, Obama is stumbling like a nervous kid at a spelling bee.
It's time to play the music / It's time to light the lights / It's time to get thing started!....
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 02:20:15 AM
If I hear "middle class Americans" one more time my ears are going to bleed.
Also, Obama is stumbling like a nervous kid at a spelling bee.
This whole thing is going to be a buzzword extravaganza
OOOOH I see now, this thread moved to Facebook...i gotcha
Okay, to be fair, Garbo is killing me.
Wow, Romney's appeal to the Free Market comes across, to me, as flat out pandering.
HE INVOKED REAGAN! :eek:
That invocation of Reagan required a blood sacrifice.
His least productive staffer has a few sad calls to make to the family of the previous least productive staffer.
Bah, I turned that shit off. Nothing but talking points and "NO U."
Quote from: Doktor D. Jennifer Phox on October 04, 2012, 03:26:21 AM
Bah, I turned that shit off. Nothing but talking points and "NO U."
Probably a good call. I might boycott all future elections until there's a candidate with enough class to wear a fucking monocle.
Quote from: Doktor D. Jennifer Phox on October 04, 2012, 03:26:21 AM
Bah, I turned that shit off. Nothing but talking points and "NO U."
BUT WHAT ABOUT BIG BIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So in summary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UplJBQi_0_w
Well, that was pretty lame. I was supposed to be taking note of their body language. Ugh.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 03:32:51 AM
So in summary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UplJBQi_0_w
Yes.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 03:35:30 AM
Well, that was pretty lame. I was supposed to be taking note of their body language. Ugh.
It must have been hard, with Romney bouncing around so much.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 03:32:51 AM
So in summary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UplJBQi_0_w
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA7B3vpIlmQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 02:46:33 AM
OOOOH I see now, this thread moved to Facebook...i gotcha
No link?
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 03:52:56 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 02:46:33 AM
OOOOH I see now, this thread moved to Facebook...i gotcha
No link?
Mostly on Roger's FB, but some on Garbo's.
In several different mini threads.
Thanks!
Quote from: Doktor D. Jennifer Phox on October 04, 2012, 03:38:19 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 03:32:51 AM
So in summary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UplJBQi_0_w
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA7B3vpIlmQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
:mittens:
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 04:48:54 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 04:10:49 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 03:52:56 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 02:46:33 AM
OOOOH I see now, this thread moved to Facebook...i gotcha
No link?
Sorry, Nigel, it just kept happening...in my feeeeed
Apparently my feed has FUN DIALED DOWN TO ZERO.
THANKS A LOT OBAMA!!!!
When Romney invoked Reagan, wasn't it to accuse Obama of trickle down? And didn't somebody pressure Ryan the other day until he admitted Romney's ecomomic plan is trickle down? IS REAGANCHRIST NOW OFFICIALLY POLITICAL POISON?
I lol'ed. Romney blinked like crazy and wiped his eye. Didn't Anne say recently that she was worried about his emotional stability if he won?
Bet he went home and KICKED THE CAT.
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on October 04, 2012, 05:11:28 AM
When Romney invoked Reagan, wasn't it to accuse Obama of trickle down? And didn't somebody pressure Ryan the other day until he admitted Romney's ecomomic plan is trickle down? IS REAGANCHRIST NOW OFFICIALLY POLITICAL POISON?
I lol'ed. Romney blinked like crazy and wiped his eye. Didn't Anne say recently that she was worried about his emotional stability if he won?
Bet he went home and KICKED THE CAT.
When did he wipe his eye? I need that. I noted the blinking, damn, he was a blink-O-matic. Also with the shifty-footing and the borderline flapping.
Quote from: American Jackal on October 04, 2012, 05:01:34 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 04:48:54 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 04:10:49 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 03:52:56 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2012, 02:46:33 AM
OOOOH I see now, this thread moved to Facebook...i gotcha
No link?
Sorry, Nigel, it just kept happening...in my feeeeed
Apparently my feed has FUN DIALED DOWN TO ZERO.
THANKS A LOT OBAMA!!!!
BINGO!
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 05:19:20 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on October 04, 2012, 05:11:28 AM
When Romney invoked Reagan, wasn't it to accuse Obama of trickle down? And didn't somebody pressure Ryan the other day until he admitted Romney's ecomomic plan is trickle down? IS REAGANCHRIST NOW OFFICIALLY POLITICAL POISON?
I lol'ed. Romney blinked like crazy and wiped his eye. Didn't Anne say recently that she was worried about his emotional stability if he won?
Bet he went home and KICKED THE CAT.
When did he wipe his eye? I need that. I noted the blinking, damn, he was a blink-O-matic. Also with the shifty-footing and the borderline flapping.
The part where he stared right into the camera for a good minute straight gave me the heebie jeebies. It felt like a space alien in an animatronic human suit was talking to me.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 05:19:20 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on October 04, 2012, 05:11:28 AM
When Romney invoked Reagan, wasn't it to accuse Obama of trickle down? And didn't somebody pressure Ryan the other day until he admitted Romney's ecomomic plan is trickle down? IS REAGANCHRIST NOW OFFICIALLY POLITICAL POISON?
I lol'ed. Romney blinked like crazy and wiped his eye. Didn't Anne say recently that she was worried about his emotional stability if he won?
Bet he went home and KICKED THE CAT.
When did he wipe his eye? I need that. I noted the blinking, damn, he was a blink-O-matic. Also with the shifty-footing and the borderline flapping.
Just looked for a youtube link, it's not up yet. Should be by morning.
I think it might have been when they were talking about taxes, does anybody remember?
I'll level with you all.
I'm going to call this debate for Romney.
Obama had the stronger positions, but he didn't show his teeth. In fact, Obama almost never shows his teeth, but that's a different rant. Romney scored more points, and even though he was full of shit as usual, Obama failed to expose how full of shit he is in a snappy way. Yes, I said snappy, because Obama is running for President of America, not President of some country where people are smart and weight the evidence.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 04, 2012, 05:26:10 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 05:19:20 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on October 04, 2012, 05:11:28 AM
When Romney invoked Reagan, wasn't it to accuse Obama of trickle down? And didn't somebody pressure Ryan the other day until he admitted Romney's ecomomic plan is trickle down? IS REAGANCHRIST NOW OFFICIALLY POLITICAL POISON?
I lol'ed. Romney blinked like crazy and wiped his eye. Didn't Anne say recently that she was worried about his emotional stability if he won?
Bet he went home and KICKED THE CAT.
When did he wipe his eye? I need that. I noted the blinking, damn, he was a blink-O-matic. Also with the shifty-footing and the borderline flapping.
The part where he stared right into the camera for a good minute straight gave me the heebie jeebies. It felt like a space alien in an animatronic human suit was talking to me.
Oh goddamn, I missed that too!
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 05:59:09 AM
I'll level with you all.
I'm going to call this debate for Romney.
Obama had the stronger positions, but he didn't show his teeth. In fact, Obama almost never shows his teeth, but that's a different rant. Romney scored more points, and even though he was full of shit as usual, Obama failed to expose how full of shit he is in a snappy way. Yes, I said snappy, because Obama is running for President of America, not President of some country where people are smart and weight the evidence.
Romney showed his teeth a lot, but it was almost always in this weird defensive way. Obama showed less of his teeth, but almost all the time, and in a more relaxed way.
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 05:59:09 AM
I'll level with you all.
I'm going to call this debate for Romney.
Obama had the stronger positions, but he didn't show his teeth. In fact, Obama almost never shows his teeth, but that's a different rant. Romney scored more points, and even though he was full of shit as usual, Obama failed to expose how full of shit he is in a snappy way. Yes, I said snappy, because Obama is running for President of America, not President of some country where people are smart and weight the evidence.
Thing is, Romney's body language was just about screaming "I'm full of shit."
^^That.
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 05:59:09 AM
I'll level with you all.
I'm going to call this debate for Romney.
Obama had the stronger positions, but he didn't show his teeth. In fact, Obama almost never shows his teeth, but that's a different rant. Romney scored more points, and even though he was full of shit as usual, Obama failed to expose how full of shit he is in a snappy way. Yes, I said snappy, because Obama is running for President of America, not President of some country where people are smart and weight the evidence.
I think the ploy was to maybe let him get something semi-concrete out in order to try and pin his jello-ass down until election day (maybe that would be part of why Obama poked at him repeatedly for details on these plans he keeps saying he has?). Let Romney make more gaffes ("your poor"?), let him make himself look like a ginormous ass (which he did, stomping on poor Lehrer that much), let him do some sort of concrete outlining and then hold him to it.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 04, 2012, 06:03:02 AM
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 05:59:09 AM
I'll level with you all.
I'm going to call this debate for Romney.
Obama had the stronger positions, but he didn't show his teeth. In fact, Obama almost never shows his teeth, but that's a different rant. Romney scored more points, and even though he was full of shit as usual, Obama failed to expose how full of shit he is in a snappy way. Yes, I said snappy, because Obama is running for President of America, not President of some country where people are smart and weight the evidence.
Romney showed his teeth a lot, but it was almost always in this weird defensive way. Obama showed less of his teeth, but almost all the time, and in a more relaxed way.
You could be right, and my impression could be heavily filtered through my exasperation at not having an actual Liberal to vote for. But I have to question Obama's strategy of always angling for a center that keeps creeping to the right. No matter what he does he will be painted as a rabid Communist by the opposition. An opposition who, I might add, has spent at least two years running a successful campaign of running hard and fast to the right, dragging Obama close behind them, while still getting away with calling him an extreme Leftist. Obama, for his part, seems blissfully unaware of this, and is apparently more than happy to keep chasing these assholes down Crazy Street.
So when I say Romney won the debate, what I really mean to say is Obama failed to kick Romney's ass and stand up for real progressivism, and instead spent most of his time stuttering out weak apologetics for his "not quite as batshit insane" policies.
edited to fix run-on sentence
Sure; they're angling for the same market, and it ain't us.
Meh, they were both weak-sauce. It's basically a boring tennis match where each player is just trying to hold serve. I don't know why you guys subjected yourself to more than 5 minutes of that shit. You're all a bunch of sadists.
So Romney accused Obama of trickle-down government and Obama accused Romney of top-down economics.
STOP MIXING METAPHORS U GUYZ.
What pissed me off the most is both guys were spewing inaccuracies and false data all over the damn place, and none of that was addressed. If they wanted to stay on their two-minute message delivery service, they couldn't break down the other guy's argument in any substantial way. Fact checkers these days must feel like the guy in a parade who has to sweep up after the elephants.
Unlike you slackers I was at work during the debate, being productive...
...by discussing anal thermometers and vibrators that sync to your iPod.
:hammer:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 04, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
What pissed me off the most is both guys were spewing inaccuracies and false data all over the damn place, and none of that was addressed. If they wanted to stay on their two-minute message delivery service, they couldn't break down the other guy's argument in any substantial way. Fact checkers these days must feel like the guy in a parade who has to sweep up after the elephants.
True, all they're doing is blowing smoke up everybody's asses. It was fun watching Romney almost piss himself, though.
When did that happen? I admit, I only saw the last half hour, but what I saw was Romney taking cheap shots and lying his face off, and Obama pretty much eating shit and stuttering.
I never realised Kabuki theatre was so popular in America.
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2012, 02:30:24 PM
I never realised Kabuki theatre was so popular in America.
:lulz:
IS SRS BSNS.
Jim Lehrer was the American people last night.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 04, 2012, 02:40:05 PM
Jim Lehrer was the American people last night.
Agreed.
Jim Leher was a great big sissy.
I felt bad for him, the way I felt bad for my Grandfather as he tried to program the VCR.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 04, 2012, 02:59:44 PM
I felt bad for him, the way I felt bad for my Grandfather as he tried to program the VCR.
And the president's quaalude problem really has to be addressed.
Lehrer must be about 80. It's often too easy to run over an old guy like that. :sad:
Reviewing the whole thing now. "CLEAN" coal, hahaha.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7424244n
In the future they won't even pretend the debates are about anything substantive. Instead of a stage, there'll be a boxing ring. And instead of questions, they'll just have a meter to see how loud the crowd gets every time one of the candidates says something. And instead of sentences, they'll speak in slogans.
Oh wait, that isn't the future.
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on October 04, 2012, 03:09:52 PM
Lehrer must be about 80. It's often too easy to run over an old guy like that. :sad:
Reviewing the whole thing now. "CLEAN" coal, hahaha.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7424244n
I don't think it's got anything to do with age.
If you're too scrutizing, then regardless of who gets in, they'll remember how you tried to screw them over. Goodbye White House access, "off the record" talks with administration insiders and "anonymous" tipoffs. You'll be blacklisted, it's that simple.
Was it just me or did Obama seem a little under the weather?
So, let's pretend I'm just some random guy with no actual knowledge of the facts, who doesn't do any homework. You know, like 90% of Americans. All I got from this debate was "Yes you did"/"No I didn't," "Yes I did"/"No you didn't" bullshit. So, basically zero real information, just two jackasses pretending not to flirt with each other.
So the only thing I really have to go on is presentation, in that case. And here's the presentation I saw, in all honesty: Romney was smooth, on point, and persistent. Obama was timid, stuttering, and played defense the entire time. The few occasions where he went after Romney, he always used too many numbers and referred to "studies," which may or may not be accurate, since as Romney pointed out, you can find a study to back up any claim you want.
Now, since I really do know the facts, my decision isn't in question. But to someone who is just now starting to pay attention, it's pretty clear who won the debate.
There are some deluded Democrats who claim that Obama was using this debate to get Romney to talk, and then hang him with his own words later.
I mean, Romney did talk a lot of shit last night. And he got a lot of facts and numbers wrong. But just like Vex said, no one cares. Everyone just took things at face values. It's as if their attitudes were, "It must be true, it's a NUMBER!"
Huh, well, I said that earlier and I still think that's what they may have intended to do. But okay.
Did anyone else notice the three different death panels references from Mittens?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 04, 2012, 05:38:01 PM
There are some deluded Democrats who claim that Obama was using this debate to get Romney to talk, and then hang him with his own words later.
Problem: The next debate isn't about domestic policy.
Problem: He had enough to hang Romney at the beginning of the debate, and didn't use it.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 04, 2012, 05:39:46 PM
Huh, well, I said that earlier and I still think that's what they may have intended to do. But okay.
Did anyone else notice the three different death panels references from Mittens?
Yeah, but here's the thing: Debates don't sell the ideas, they sell the presence of the candidates.
True.
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 03:22:42 PM
In the future they won't even pretend the debates are about anything substantive. Instead of a stage, there'll be a boxing ring. And instead of questions, they'll just have a meter to see how loud the crowd gets every time one of the candidates says something. And instead of sentences, they'll speak in slogans.
Oh wait, that isn't the future.
If you smeeeeelllllllllllllllllll what Barack is cookin'.
Quote from: Internet Jesus on October 04, 2012, 06:06:44 PM
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 03:22:42 PM
In the future they won't even pretend the debates are about anything substantive. Instead of a stage, there'll be a boxing ring. And instead of questions, they'll just have a meter to see how loud the crowd gets every time one of the candidates says something. And instead of sentences, they'll speak in slogans.
Oh wait, that isn't the future.
If you smeeeeelllllllllllllllllll what Barack is cookin'.
*Tries to bleach Obama Scorpion King image from brain*
Quote from: Mark AmesOkay, Barry has this hilarious evil smirk that suggests he already knows the final results of the November election. I swear Putin used to smirk like that, and shit happened. Someone's giving Barry some bad information though, because he aint' Putin
Quote from: Mark AmesJust looked on twitter, liberals are shitting in their pants. They're learning for the first time that Obama is a) a technocrat, b) boring and passionless, c) a less dickish version of Romney. Not to not toot my horn, but I fucking called this in 2008. Toot! Toot!
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Mark AmesOkay, Barry has this hilarious evil smirk that suggests he already knows the final results of the November election. I swear Putin used to smirk like that, and shit happened. Someone's giving Barry some bad information though, because he aint' Putin
Quote from: Mark AmesJust looked on twitter, liberals are shitting in their pants. They're learning for the first time that Obama is a) a technocrat, b) boring and passionless, c) a less dickish version of Romney. Not to not toot my horn, but I fucking called this in 2008. Toot! Toot!
Just for shits and grins, I watched MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech last night.
Turns out Obama is actually a
shitty orator.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/sasha-obama-asks-father-why-he-was-acting-like-suc,29795/
QuoteDENVER—Following last night's nationally televised presidential debate, President Barack Obama's 11-year-old daughter Sasha reportedly asked her father why he was "acting like such a goddamned pussy up there." "Daddy, how come you were being such a little bitch?" asked the sixth-grader, who told the president she was "genuinely worried" that maybe somebody had "cut Daddy's balls off" right before he took the stage. "What happened, Dad? Were you on your period or something? Maybe the next time you're in front of the entire country for an hour and a half you should try not letting another man spank you on the ass like that." Sources added that Obama's youngest daughter then offered to help the president go "look for [his] dick, because apparently it's gone missing."
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 04, 2012, 10:11:50 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/sasha-obama-asks-father-why-he-was-acting-like-suc,29795/
QuoteDENVER—Following last night's nationally televised presidential debate, President Barack Obama's 11-year-old daughter Sasha reportedly asked her father why he was "acting like such a goddamned pussy up there." "Daddy, how come you were being such a little bitch?" asked the sixth-grader, who told the president she was "genuinely worried" that maybe somebody had "cut Daddy's balls off" right before he took the stage. "What happened, Dad? Were you on your period or something? Maybe the next time you're in front of the entire country for an hour and a half you should try not letting another man spank you on the ass like that." Sources added that Obama's youngest daughter then offered to help the president go "look for [his] dick, because apparently it's gone missing."
:lulz:
Hmm, I wonder if Obama knew this was coming: http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/05/14240541-unemployment-rate-falls-to-78-as-economy-creates-114000-jobs?lite
Busted. :lulz:
"Close up of Mitt Romney cheating during the debate on October 3rd 2012.
"No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Mark AmesOkay, Barry has this hilarious evil smirk that suggests he already knows the final results of the November election. I swear Putin used to smirk like that, and shit happened. Someone's giving Barry some bad information though, because he aint' Putin
Quote from: Mark AmesJust looked on twitter, liberals are shitting in their pants. They're learning for the first time that Obama is a) a technocrat, b) boring and passionless, c) a less dickish version of Romney. Not to not toot my horn, but I fucking called this in 2008. Toot! Toot!
Just for shits and grins, I watched MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech last night.
Turns out Obama is actually a shitty orator.
Yep. The last good orator in the White House was Mr. Clinton.
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on October 05, 2012, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Mark AmesOkay, Barry has this hilarious evil smirk that suggests he already knows the final results of the November election. I swear Putin used to smirk like that, and shit happened. Someone's giving Barry some bad information though, because he aint' Putin
Quote from: Mark AmesJust looked on twitter, liberals are shitting in their pants. They're learning for the first time that Obama is a) a technocrat, b) boring and passionless, c) a less dickish version of Romney. Not to not toot my horn, but I fucking called this in 2008. Toot! Toot!
Just for shits and grins, I watched MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech last night.
Turns out Obama is actually a shitty orator.
Yep. The last good orator in the White House was Mr. Clinton.
Nowhere near MLK, though. I don't think we've ever had one like that.
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on October 05, 2012, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on October 05, 2012, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Mark AmesOkay, Barry has this hilarious evil smirk that suggests he already knows the final results of the November election. I swear Putin used to smirk like that, and shit happened. Someone's giving Barry some bad information though, because he aint' Putin
Quote from: Mark AmesJust looked on twitter, liberals are shitting in their pants. They're learning for the first time that Obama is a) a technocrat, b) boring and passionless, c) a less dickish version of Romney. Not to not toot my horn, but I fucking called this in 2008. Toot! Toot!
Just for shits and grins, I watched MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech last night.
Turns out Obama is actually a shitty orator.
Yep. The last good orator in the White House was Mr. Clinton.
Nowhere near MLK, though. I don't think we've ever had one like that.
It's hard to tell directly, because most of the presidents were never video recorded.
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on October 06, 2012, 01:20:26 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on October 05, 2012, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on October 05, 2012, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: vȝx on October 04, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Mark AmesOkay, Barry has this hilarious evil smirk that suggests he already knows the final results of the November election. I swear Putin used to smirk like that, and shit happened. Someone's giving Barry some bad information though, because he aint' Putin
Quote from: Mark AmesJust looked on twitter, liberals are shitting in their pants. They're learning for the first time that Obama is a) a technocrat, b) boring and passionless, c) a less dickish version of Romney. Not to not toot my horn, but I fucking called this in 2008. Toot! Toot!
Just for shits and grins, I watched MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech last night.
Turns out Obama is actually a shitty orator.
Yep. The last good orator in the White House was Mr. Clinton.
Nowhere near MLK, though. I don't think we've ever had one like that.
It's hard to tell directly, because most of the presidents were never video recorded.
We've got audio going back to Harrison. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU4gGEL5c8g
Before that is anybody's guess.