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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:36:46 AM

Title: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
So, I've just been given a green light to bully my co-workers.

This isn't hyperbole or me miscontruing anything, btw.   I have been told this, directly.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 10, 2015, 01:00:44 AM
Green light or ordered to bully them?

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Green light.  With the explicit promise that he will run interference when they inevitably whine about it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 10, 2015, 01:28:02 AM
Be the bully you always wanted to be.
Insult their shoes. Call them nerds. Steal their quarters for milk.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:29:13 AM
I do all that stuff anyway.

I'm going to have to mug them for their lunch money, I think.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on November 10, 2015, 01:32:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
So, I've just been given a green light to bully my co-workers.

Cain! What is best in life?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 10, 2015, 01:33:27 AM
Check the shoes. Once they figure out what you're doing they'll try to hide money so they can still eat.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:36:45 AM
Quote from: President Television on November 10, 2015, 01:32:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
So, I've just been given a green light to bully my co-workers.

Cain! What is best in life?

Crush your co-workers. See them exasperated before you. Hear the lamentations of their HR reps.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 10, 2015, 02:08:46 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
So, I've just been given a green light to bully my co-workers.

This isn't hyperbole or me miscontruing anything, btw.   I have been told this, directly.

Squeeee!!!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2015, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Green light.  With the explicit promise that he will run interference when they inevitably whine about it.

Is this the guy that's ultimately in charge of all those dangerously foolish ass-hats you've been talking about? If so consider that it may be a set-up intended to get you in a bad position. I'm not saying it is so, but I've found that managers are never more dangerous than when they're "letting you do something" that shouldn't be necessary if they were competent.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2015, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2015, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Green light.  With the explicit promise that he will run interference when they inevitably whine about it.

Is this the guy that's ultimately in charge of all those dangerously foolish ass-hats you've been talking about? If so consider that it may be a set-up intended to get you in a bad position. I'm not saying it is so, but I've found that managers are never more dangerous than when they're "letting you do something" that shouldn't be necessary if they were competent.

Thought did cross my mind.

That said, the other shifts are useless.  I mean, completely and utterly useless.  Any move to get us fired would mean having to just put up with them being useless on even more shifts than they currently are.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 10, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:36:45 AM
Quote from: President Television on November 10, 2015, 01:32:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
So, I've just been given a green light to bully my co-workers.

Cain! What is best in life?

Crush your co-workers. See them exasperated before you. Hear the lamentations of their HR reps.


The rulers in city-states also tend to be more responsive to their citizens needs.  Normally because their citizens know where to find them in order to string them up, should they fuck it all up, and organizing a city-wide mob is not as hard as organizing a country-wide mob.  It's at just the right level for a lot of things when it comes to organization, economic viability, democratic governance and so on.
                       \
(http://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Conan-on-what-is-best-in-life.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 11, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2015, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Green light.  With the explicit promise that he will run interference when they inevitably whine about it.

Is this the guy that's ultimately in charge of all those dangerously foolish ass-hats you've been talking about? If so consider that it may be a set-up intended to get you in a bad position. I'm not saying it is so, but I've found that managers are never more dangerous than when they're "letting you do something" that shouldn't be necessary if they were competent.

Thought did cross my mind.

That said, the other shifts are useless.  I mean, completely and utterly useless.  Any move to get us fired would mean having to just put up with them being useless on even more shifts than they currently are.

I've found a simple workplace truth in my few years in the Laundry Services Department. It is very rarely the shitty co-worker that needs adjustment, like being berated. It is the person that allowed the behavior, knowingly and intentionally or not, that must be influenced. The only result of attempting to adjust the co-worker directly for misbehaving is thin compliance and resentment at best, at worst genuine and often veiled hostility.

I've more to say if you've an inclination to give ear.. or eye I guess, to it. My brain's just a bit far from the objective mode of thinking about anything work related ATM.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 11, 2015, 06:40:59 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 10, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:36:45 AM
Quote from: President Television on November 10, 2015, 01:32:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
So, I've just been given a green light to bully my co-workers.

Cain! What is best in life?

Crush your co-workers. See them exasperated before you. Hear the lamentations of their HR reps.


The rulers in city-states also tend to be more responsive to their citizens needs.  Normally because their citizens know where to find them in order to string them up, should they fuck it all up, and organizing a city-wide mob is not as hard as organizing a country-wide mob.  It's at just the right level for a lot of things when it comes to organization, economic viability, democratic governance and so on.
                       \
(http://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Conan-on-what-is-best-in-life.jpg)

The Cimmerians understand ACCOUNTABILITY!  :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2015, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 11, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2015, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Green light.  With the explicit promise that he will run interference when they inevitably whine about it.

Is this the guy that's ultimately in charge of all those dangerously foolish ass-hats you've been talking about? If so consider that it may be a set-up intended to get you in a bad position. I'm not saying it is so, but I've found that managers are never more dangerous than when they're "letting you do something" that shouldn't be necessary if they were competent.

Thought did cross my mind.

That said, the other shifts are useless.  I mean, completely and utterly useless.  Any move to get us fired would mean having to just put up with them being useless on even more shifts than they currently are.

I've found a simple workplace truth in my few years in the Laundry Services Department. It is very rarely the shitty co-worker that needs adjustment, like being berated. It is the person that allowed the behavior, knowingly and intentionally or not, that must be influenced. The only result of attempting to adjust the co-worker directly for misbehaving is thin compliance and resentment at best, at worst genuine and often veiled hostility.

I've more to say if you've an inclination to give ear.. or eye I guess, to it. My brain's just a bit far from the objective mode of thinking about anything work related ATM.

True...but these people are lazy as fuck.  I mean, the fridge had rotting food which expired in the summer in it, and they couldn't even be bothered to clean it out.  When I come in, I frequently find daily updated paperwork is pinned on top of the previous day's one...because someone couldn't be bothered to walk 15 feet to the bin and dispose of it.  Paperwork for the weekends, which is easy to update (you do it as people leave/arrive) is frequently so shoddy my co-worker and I spend 2 hours on our first night back on duty cross-referencing everything to make sure it's accurate, because it frequently isn't.

There's definitely a dearth of any kind of proper leadership or management here.  But it's festered to the point where it seems only 1 out of the 4 shifts is actually doing what it should be. We've shouted at management for months to fix it, but, well, you know what kind of idiots they are.  So now we'll shout at other people.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 11, 2015, 08:13:52 PM
Oh hey, i meant to post this up earlier, but i'm now in my second week of my mental health internship! Hopefully by the end of this i'll have a job in the field. Been off to a good start so far, first day they simulated what its like to have schizophrenia, so that was intense.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2015, 02:21:51 AM
Patience Gonzales just came through with the cover art for LDW3.  I am going to try to have the book up by Friday night, which means it will probably actually be available next Tuesday.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 12, 2015, 06:11:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 11, 2015, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 11, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2015, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Green light.  With the explicit promise that he will run interference when they inevitably whine about it.

Is this the guy that's ultimately in charge of all those dangerously foolish ass-hats you've been talking about? If so consider that it may be a set-up intended to get you in a bad position. I'm not saying it is so, but I've found that managers are never more dangerous than when they're "letting you do something" that shouldn't be necessary if they were competent.

Thought did cross my mind.

That said, the other shifts are useless.  I mean, completely and utterly useless.  Any move to get us fired would mean having to just put up with them being useless on even more shifts than they currently are.

I've found a simple workplace truth in my few years in the Laundry Services Department. It is very rarely the shitty co-worker that needs adjustment, like being berated. It is the person that allowed the behavior, knowingly and intentionally or not, that must be influenced. The only result of attempting to adjust the co-worker directly for misbehaving is thin compliance and resentment at best, at worst genuine and often veiled hostility.

I've more to say if you've an inclination to give ear.. or eye I guess, to it. My brain's just a bit far from the objective mode of thinking about anything work related ATM.

True...but these people are lazy as fuck.  I mean, the fridge had rotting food which expired in the summer in it, and they couldn't even be bothered to clean it out.  When I come in, I frequently find daily updated paperwork is pinned on top of the previous day's one...because someone couldn't be bothered to walk 15 feet to the bin and dispose of it.  Paperwork for the weekends, which is easy to update (you do it as people leave/arrive) is frequently so shoddy my co-worker and I spend 2 hours on our first night back on duty cross-referencing everything to make sure it's accurate, because it frequently isn't.

There's definitely a dearth of any kind of proper leadership or management here.  But it's festered to the point where it seems only 1 out of the 4 shifts is actually doing what it should be. We've shouted at management for months to fix it, but, well, you know what kind of idiots they are.  So now we'll shout at other people.

I've been the point man for picking up dirty and making deliveries to a cluster of our outlying clinics for about a year now. The last seven months of that have had me also tracking the levels of, and stocking, white doctor coats that the department now carries and distrbutes in lieu of the previous contractor. I've seen and made extensive written and photo documentation of the disregard for basic infection control procedure displayed by the staff. Coats get thrown on the floor under the clean ones or stuffed on shelves above them, dirty coats all too often get re-hung with the clean, personal items from outdoors have been hung among them, then there's the retaliation of folks messing up the racks after my reporting started to gain traction. Documentation of THAT was a major boon indeed!

I think what I'm trying to get at here is that these few bad actors are doctors and they "should" know better, but proved as intractably foolish as the worst folks in my own lowly department. I begin to suspect that disingenuous and incompetent behavior in a workplace is par for the course with a certain percentage of people no matter what they actually do. Then I got all Stoic about it and realized that if the behavior pattern was universal then it was also inevitable and getting mad was about it as helpful as shaking my fist at a stormcloud. I decided to let my anger go as much as possible and simply begin real and consistent documentation, despite it not being part of "my job", reasoning that the fuckers acted poorly so freely because they were used to "getting away with it".

Though "co-workers" my position is notably inferior to the MDs that I  attempt to service and so directly influencing their behavior on my own was not a viable option, no matter what documentation I created. So I decided that I would be as consistent about reports as I had been about being angry, every single day. I still get mildly annoyed sometimes, but the destruction of my false ideal about what folks "should" be doing in favor of analysis of what was actually happening has been an invaluable experience.

Not really sure where I'm going with this despite picking at it off and on as I could today. Might open a thread to try getting it all out.  Any of that sound useful Cain?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 12, 2015, 06:12:53 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 11, 2015, 08:13:52 PM
Oh hey, i meant to post this up earlier, but i'm now in my second week of my mental health internship! Hopefully by the end of this i'll have a job in the field. Been off to a good start so far, first day they simulated what its like to have schizophrenia, so that was intense.

Very glad to hear!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 12, 2015, 06:13:31 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2015, 02:21:51 AM
Patience Gonzales just came through with the cover art for LDW3.  I am going to try to have the book up by Friday night, which means it will probably actually be available next Tuesday.

That's awesome sir!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 06:25:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2015, 02:21:51 AM
Patience Gonzales just came through with the cover art for LDW3.  I am going to try to have the book up by Friday night, which means it will probably actually be available next Tuesday.

Kick ass!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 06:36:25 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 11, 2015, 08:13:52 PM
Oh hey, i meant to post this up earlier, but i'm now in my second week of my mental health internship! Hopefully by the end of this i'll have a job in the field. Been off to a good start so far, first day they simulated what its like to have schizophrenia, so that was intense.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on November 12, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 12, 2015, 06:11:59 AM
I begin to suspect that disingenuous and incompetent behavior in a workplace is par for the course with a certain percentage of people no matter what they actually do. Then I got all Stoic about it and realized that if the behavior pattern was universal then it was also inevitable and getting mad was about it as helpful as shaking my fist at a stormcloud. I decided to let my anger go as much as possible and simply begin real and consistent documentation, despite it not being part of "my job", reasoning that the fuckers acted poorly so freely because they were used to "getting away with it".


Sounds to me like you have hit the nail on the head there.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 12, 2015, 11:18:42 AM
I think I've had to much for tonight.

I made an AI tribute to roger that basically just insults the user.

(http://s27.postimg.org/edo2k3gxf/sorry.png)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
I took the GRE. Did not do too badly, despite taking it on short notice with almost no prep in the middle of an 18-credit term.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 12, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Well done!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 12, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Well done!

Thank you! Now I can focus on not boning my GPA: I got Cs on both of my midterms this past week. The first Cs of my life. They'll both be thrown out so it won't affect my class grade, but only if I am able to catch up and do better on the next set.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2015, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 12, 2015, 11:18:42 AM
I think I've had to much for tonight.

I made an AI tribute to roger that basically just insults the user.

(http://s27.postimg.org/edo2k3gxf/sorry.png)

This should be made available in 3rd world countries where they can't afford me.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 12, 2015, 03:53:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2015, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 12, 2015, 11:18:42 AM
I think I've had to much for tonight.

I made an AI tribute to roger that basically just insults the user.

(http://s27.postimg.org/edo2k3gxf/sorry.png)

This should be made available in 3rd world countries where they can't afford me.

Let's kick start it.
Like inspirobot, but for masochist
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2015, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 12, 2015, 11:18:42 AM
I think I've had to much for tonight.

I made an AI tribute to roger that basically just insults the user.

(http://s27.postimg.org/edo2k3gxf/sorry.png)

This should be made available in 3rd world countries where they can't afford me.

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 10:14:21 PM
I'm feeling mighty pleased with myself right now because the furnace was on the fritz and I correctly diagnosed it, Alty ordered the replacement part, which came today, and I repaired it.

It has gone from unpleasantly cold in the house to toasty warm.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 12, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Just had a fire alarm go off.

Of course, because it was this place, it was a clusterfuck.  Evacuation took about 15 minutes, for a building of 200 people.  Kept getting idiotic questions like "what is going on?"  Well, the fire alarm is going off, so I assume it's because something in the building is on fire.  Had to tell at least a dozen students they couldn't go back in to get their coat or their iPhone or their wallet, and no they couldn't just wander off to the bar, at least not until they registered at the fire evacuation point.

Best part is, I'm not even working this evening.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 12, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Just had a fire alarm go off.

Of course, because it was this place, it was a clusterfuck.  Evacuation took about 15 minutes, for a building of 200 people.  Kept getting idiotic questions like "what is going on?"  Well, the fire alarm is going off, so I assume it's because something in the building is on fire.  Had to tell at least a dozen students they couldn't go back in to get their coat or their iPhone or their wallet, and no they couldn't just wander off to the bar, at least not until they registered at the fire evacuation point.

Best part is, I'm not even working this evening.

"You want your phone? Well, the building may be on fire, but if that's how you wanna bet..."
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 12, 2015, 11:04:49 PM
I mean, I know you can't actually let them go back in, but c'mon, kids, THINK.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 12, 2015, 11:20:50 PM
Yeah.  I was also impressed by us having about 8 members of staff living in the building (most of them rent free as well) and a grand total of two of them helping, including myself.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 13, 2015, 12:28:36 AM
            HEY GUYS I FOUND MY PHONE! EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE FINE!
        /
:zombie:


:facepalm:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 02:56:38 AM
damnit, I tried to add some off roger's hating racists and nazi's and it just turned the bot into an sjw.

(http://s27.postimg.org/7xc4i10c3/welp.png)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 13, 2015, 03:11:39 AM
Yeah, that's pretty offensive.

I don't think Roger's spelling would get that bad.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 03:16:14 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 02:56:38 AM
damnit, I tried to add some off roger's hating racists and nazi's and it just turned the bot into an sjw.

(http://s27.postimg.org/7xc4i10c3/welp.png)

That's because you don't fucking listen.  You don't even listen to your own bot.

And I would not say "Check your privilege", I would say "SHUT UP."
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 03:16:40 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on November 13, 2015, 03:11:39 AM
Yeah, that's pretty offensive.

I don't think Roger's spelling would get that bad.

Not even when I take both pills.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:22:57 AM
dont drink and program guys, affects spelling, also don't stay up for 2 days and drink.
Thinking of making it 3, but eh, after 3 it goes from a buzz to an small lsd trip.
I'm already looking like a tweeker, don't want to look like a complete weirdo tommorow. Talking to army recruiters tomorrow.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 03:28:18 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:22:57 AM
dont drink and program guys, affects spelling, also don't stay up for 2 days and drink.
Thinking of making it 3, but eh, after 3 it goes from a buzz to an small lsd trip.
I'm already looking like a tweeker, don't want to look like a complete weirdo tommorow. Talking to army recruiters tomorrow.

This isn't going to end well.  Go see the Air Force instead.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:36:57 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 03:28:18 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:22:57 AM
dont drink and program guys, affects spelling, also don't stay up for 2 days and drink.
Thinking of making it 3, but eh, after 3 it goes from a buzz to an small lsd trip.
I'm already looking like a tweeker, don't want to look like a complete weirdo tommorow. Talking to army recruiters tomorrow.

This isn't going to end well.  Go see the Air Force instead.

They don't have the job i want. I'm trying to get in for paralegal, or atleast world police work.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 03:39:35 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:36:57 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 03:28:18 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:22:57 AM
dont drink and program guys, affects spelling, also don't stay up for 2 days and drink.
Thinking of making it 3, but eh, after 3 it goes from a buzz to an small lsd trip.
I'm already looking like a tweeker, don't want to look like a complete weirdo tommorow. Talking to army recruiters tomorrow.

This isn't going to end well.  Go see the Air Force instead.

They don't have the job i want. I'm trying to get in for paralegal, or atleast world police work.

I am going to tell you right now that the army is not the correct environment for you.

BUT IF YOU MUST, please update us on the horrible avalanche of failure to adapt, screaming drill sergeants, and the inevitable EPTS.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:41:40 AM
Don't the other branches have that too?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 03:49:50 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 13, 2015, 03:41:40 AM
Don't the other branches have that too?

Yes.  But every branch has it's own mentality, it's own things that it will accept.

Guys like you go in the army, they can't not do the passive-aggressive thing.  Then they get buried alive under 16 tons of horrible shit.  The air force is more prone to put up with that, but less prone to put up with brawling, etc.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
Just got my first paycheck for a full week of work. If I average 32 hours a week, I should only have to draw out about $300/mo from my 401k to make ends meet. So, assuming I don't have unexpected expenses, and my hours stay the same, I have about 2 years to live.

HUZZAH!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 13, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
Just got my first paycheck for a full week of work. If I average 32 hours a week, I should only have to draw out about $300/mo from my 401k to make ends meet. So, assuming I don't have unexpected expenses, and my hours stay the same, I have about 2 years to live.

HUZZAH!

From a strictly legal point of view, I have about 60 days.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 13, 2015, 06:57:21 PM
Though I hope it doesn't come to that, I foresee the greatest 60 days ever experienced by a human being.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2015, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 13, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
Just got my first paycheck for a full week of work. If I average 32 hours a week, I should only have to draw out about $300/mo from my 401k to make ends meet. So, assuming I don't have unexpected expenses, and my hours stay the same, I have about 2 years to live.

HUZZAH!

From a strictly legal point of view, I have about 60 days.

You having yourself declared legally dead for tax purposes? Like that guy from one of those Hitchhiker's Guide books?

I've been considering my options for an exit strategy. I'm thinking maybe a tragic yet hilarious jetpack experiment related "accident".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2015, 07:55:23 PM
A friend of mine suggested I go to an IT job fair next Thursday to try to get a job in programming. I have a Bachelor's in "Engineering Technology", and have written a little bit of code in Python and a couple of variants of C (C++, Interactive C, and whatever Arduino uses)

He thinks my chances are good that I could land a $40k -$50k job in Nashville. I'm skeptical, but it might be good for a laugh. Also, I just happen to have Thursday off.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 13, 2015, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 13, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
Just got my first paycheck for a full week of work. If I average 32 hours a week, I should only have to draw out about $300/mo from my 401k to make ends meet. So, assuming I don't have unexpected expenses, and my hours stay the same, I have about 2 years to live.

HUZZAH!

From a strictly legal point of view, I have about 60 days.

You having yourself declared legally dead for tax purposes? Like that guy from one of those Hitchhiker's Guide books?

I've been considering my options for an exit strategy. I'm thinking maybe a tragic yet hilarious jetpack experiment related "accident".

No, I mean my explainable funds run out in 60 days.  After that, things could get dodgy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2015, 11:15:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 13, 2015, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 13, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
Just got my first paycheck for a full week of work. If I average 32 hours a week, I should only have to draw out about $300/mo from my 401k to make ends meet. So, assuming I don't have unexpected expenses, and my hours stay the same, I have about 2 years to live.

HUZZAH!

From a strictly legal point of view, I have about 60 days.

You having yourself declared legally dead for tax purposes? Like that guy from one of those Hitchhiker's Guide books?

I've been considering my options for an exit strategy. I'm thinking maybe a tragic yet hilarious jetpack experiment related "accident".

No, I mean my explainable funds run out in 60 days.  After that, things could get dodgy.

Ah, I'm considering similar options, myself.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: rong on November 14, 2015, 12:15:19 AM
what about all that money you won at the casino?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2015, 12:18:47 AM
Quote from: rong on November 14, 2015, 12:15:19 AM
what about all that money you won at the casino?

That is reported to the IRS, and trackable.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on November 14, 2015, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: rong on November 14, 2015, 12:15:19 AM
what about all that money you won at the casino?

I don't need much, maybe $5-6k, and I do have a kiln, and a verified history of using said kiln to generate small amounts of income. Also, I'm capable of basic appliance repair.

My day job pays just barely enough to cover the usual monthly expenses (mortgage, utilities, Obamacare, very basic food, and gas) paying for everything else with cash (like that $100 I spent at the vet today) would probably cover most of the grey money. For anything else, there's always Craigslist. I may need another thousand or two to qualify for Obamacare, though. Fortunately, 401k withdrawals count as income for the year in which they are withdrawn.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 12:37:16 AM
I just met with the director of the lab I want to do my graduate research in and it went almost terrifyingly well. Like, I loved them and they loved me and the director was basically making plans for me before I even left. I was like "I still have to get into the program!" and the postdoc gave me her email address and told me to keep in touch, and the director told me to keep him updated.

The research they're doing is GREAT. The project I would be put on is stellar. Like, completely novel Parkinson's research unlike anything I've ever heard of before, looking at epigenetic effects and therapies that utilize transgenic methods; totally a dream come true. I hope I get into the program!

Oh, and yesterday my job told my team to each bill HR for 35 hours. Technically, we didn't work 35 hours, but that's what they had budgeted for training and that's what we're getting paid.

So, basically, everything in my life is incredibly good right now. My kids are great, and my boyfriend is ridiculously handsome, ambitious, clever, and loving.

I'm almost afraid to breathe, in case I wake up and it turns out to all be a dream.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 14, 2015, 01:02:19 AM
Normaly regular people play fallout to role play as terrible people.

But I use it to role play as a good person.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2015, 02:14:07 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 12:37:16 AM
I just met with the director of the lab I want to do my graduate research in and it went almost terrifyingly well. Like, I loved them and they loved me and the director was basically making plans for me before I even left. I was like "I still have to get into the program!" and the postdoc gave me her email address and told me to keep in touch, and the director told me to keep him updated.

The research they're doing is GREAT. The project I would be put on is stellar. Like, completely novel Parkinson's research unlike anything I've ever heard of before, looking at epigenetic effects and therapies that utilize transgenic methods; totally a dream come true. I hope I get into the program!

Oh, and yesterday my job told my team to each bill HR for 35 hours. Technically, we didn't work 35 hours, but that's what they had budgeted for training and that's what we're getting paid.

So, basically, everything in my life is incredibly good right now. My kids are great, and my boyfriend is ridiculously handsome, ambitious, clever, and loving.

I'm almost afraid to breathe, in case I wake up and it turns out to all be a dream.

I know that feeling.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 14, 2015, 06:51:33 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 12:37:16 AM
I just met with the director of the lab I want to do my graduate research in and it went almost terrifyingly well. Like, I loved them and they loved me and the director was basically making plans for me before I even left. I was like "I still have to get into the program!" and the postdoc gave me her email address and told me to keep in touch, and the director told me to keep him updated.

The research they're doing is GREAT. The project I would be put on is stellar. Like, completely novel Parkinson's research unlike anything I've ever heard of before, looking at epigenetic effects and therapies that utilize transgenic methods; totally a dream come true. I hope I get into the program!

Oh, and yesterday my job told my team to each bill HR for 35 hours. Technically, we didn't work 35 hours, but that's what they had budgeted for training and that's what we're getting paid.

So, basically, everything in my life is incredibly good right now. My kids are great, and my boyfriend is ridiculously handsome, ambitious, clever, and loving.

I'm almost afraid to breathe, in case I wake up and it turns out to all be a dream.
Congrats, Nigel, i'm happy for you!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 14, 2015, 06:57:30 AM
oh hey, does anyone remember my friend who was having problems with an internet stalker a while back? the one who wanted to avoid giving said stalker any attention lest he be encouraged? well, recent events against her and some close friends of hers, she is starting to warm up to the idea of giving these guys a taste of hell, which leads me to ask, would anyone here be interested in catfishing/doxxing/or otherwise outtrolling a couple of MRA shitnecks?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 06:59:24 AM
Thanks, Chelagoras!

While I'm under a tremendous amount of stress, it's pretty much all stress over positive things, except for the fact that aforementioned boyfriend is going to Alaska to visit his son for a week tomorrow morning at buttfuck-thirty.

I am going to miss the everloving fuck out of him.

But he'll be back in a week, so it will be fine.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 14, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 14, 2015, 06:57:30 AM
oh hey, does anyone remember my friend who was having problems with an internet stalker a while back? the one who wanted to avoid giving said stalker any attention lest he be encouraged? well, recent events against her and some close friends of hers, she is starting to warm up to the idea of giving these guys a taste of hell, which leads me to ask, would anyone here be interested in catfishing/doxxing/or otherwise outtrolling a couple of MRA shitnecks?

Can I make s.t.a.l.k.e.r refrences? Anu cheeki breeki
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2015, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 12, 2015, 06:11:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 11, 2015, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 11, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2015, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Green light.  With the explicit promise that he will run interference when they inevitably whine about it.

Is this the guy that's ultimately in charge of all those dangerously foolish ass-hats you've been talking about? If so consider that it may be a set-up intended to get you in a bad position. I'm not saying it is so, but I've found that managers are never more dangerous than when they're "letting you do something" that shouldn't be necessary if they were competent.

Thought did cross my mind.

That said, the other shifts are useless.  I mean, completely and utterly useless.  Any move to get us fired would mean having to just put up with them being useless on even more shifts than they currently are.

I've found a simple workplace truth in my few years in the Laundry Services Department. It is very rarely the shitty co-worker that needs adjustment, like being berated. It is the person that allowed the behavior, knowingly and intentionally or not, that must be influenced. The only result of attempting to adjust the co-worker directly for misbehaving is thin compliance and resentment at best, at worst genuine and often veiled hostility.

I've more to say if you've an inclination to give ear.. or eye I guess, to it. My brain's just a bit far from the objective mode of thinking about anything work related ATM.

True...but these people are lazy as fuck.  I mean, the fridge had rotting food which expired in the summer in it, and they couldn't even be bothered to clean it out.  When I come in, I frequently find daily updated paperwork is pinned on top of the previous day's one...because someone couldn't be bothered to walk 15 feet to the bin and dispose of it.  Paperwork for the weekends, which is easy to update (you do it as people leave/arrive) is frequently so shoddy my co-worker and I spend 2 hours on our first night back on duty cross-referencing everything to make sure it's accurate, because it frequently isn't.

There's definitely a dearth of any kind of proper leadership or management here.  But it's festered to the point where it seems only 1 out of the 4 shifts is actually doing what it should be. We've shouted at management for months to fix it, but, well, you know what kind of idiots they are.  So now we'll shout at other people.

I've been the point man for picking up dirty and making deliveries to a cluster of our outlying clinics for about a year now. The last seven months of that have had me also tracking the levels of, and stocking, white doctor coats that the department now carries and distrbutes in lieu of the previous contractor. I've seen and made extensive written and photo documentation of the disregard for basic infection control procedure displayed by the staff. Coats get thrown on the floor under the clean ones or stuffed on shelves above them, dirty coats all too often get re-hung with the clean, personal items from outdoors have been hung among them, then there's the retaliation of folks messing up the racks after my reporting started to gain traction. Documentation of THAT was a major boon indeed!

I think what I'm trying to get at here is that these few bad actors are doctors and they "should" know better, but proved as intractably foolish as the worst folks in my own lowly department. I begin to suspect that disingenuous and incompetent behavior in a workplace is par for the course with a certain percentage of people no matter what they actually do. Then I got all Stoic about it and realized that if the behavior pattern was universal then it was also inevitable and getting mad was about it as helpful as shaking my fist at a stormcloud. I decided to let my anger go as much as possible and simply begin real and consistent documentation, despite it not being part of "my job", reasoning that the fuckers acted poorly so freely because they were used to "getting away with it".

Though "co-workers" my position is notably inferior to the MDs that I  attempt to service and so directly influencing their behavior on my own was not a viable option, no matter what documentation I created. So I decided that I would be as consistent about reports as I had been about being angry, every single day. I still get mildly annoyed sometimes, but the destruction of my false ideal about what folks "should" be doing in favor of analysis of what was actually happening has been an invaluable experience.

Not really sure where I'm going with this despite picking at it off and on as I could today. Might open a thread to try getting it all out.  Any of that sound useful Cain?

Sort of.

It's just unfortunate, because I can accept, to an extent, people being stupid, slacking off, and not giving a fuck.

But given we have people in our care, people far away from home and in a very different culture (an experience I can empathise with), people who sometimes have issues they need help with, I find it far less excusable.  If they want to be fuckups at a supermarket, that's fine.  I don't care.  Here though, it's other people's wellbeing that will ultimately suffer.

For example, I've recently discovered a student here is clinically depressed.  No-one actually thought to tell me this, I had to go dumpster diving through administrative emails when I was off duty, to even find a reference to that.  Just two hours previously, the worker who was handing over the information we "needed" to know to do our jobs (and neglected to mention that) was whining that he deserved top marks in his job appraisal.  He can't even spell the students names right, let alone pass on actually useful information, yet he thinks he is doing a fantastic job.

It's like some sort of horrible mash up between Dunning Kruger and Donald Rumsfeld. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2015, 05:58:56 PM

It's like some sort of horrible mash up between Dunning Kruger and Donald Rumsfeld.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2015, 06:35:35 PM
The Unknown Unknowns of Not Knowing How Incompetent You Are: A Year Long Study in Social Stupidity.

That could be a paper, if I were a sociologist.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 14, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2015, 05:58:56 PM

It's like some sort of horrible mash up between Dunning Kruger and Donald Rumsfeld.

:horrormirth:

Theres a word for that: http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/

TL;DR is that higher ups intentionally put idiots in positions of middle management to act as sacrificial lambs when things go wrong. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2015, 06:35:35 PM
The Unknown Unknowns of Not Knowing How Incompetent You Are: A Year Long Study in Social Stupidity.

That could be a paper, if I were a sociologist.

It would make an excellent social psychology paper, as well.

Ages ago, I wanted to study workplace psychology. Your workplace would make an AMAZING case study.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 07:48:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

I am not sure I can stomach it right now, but I bet that when Alty gets off the plane he will want someone to take out his rage at being in Alaska on.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2015, 10:15:06 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 14, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2015, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2015, 05:58:56 PM

It's like some sort of horrible mash up between Dunning Kruger and Donald Rumsfeld.

:horrormirth:

Theres a word for that: http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/

TL;DR is that higher ups intentionally put idiots in positions of middle management to act as sacrificial lambs when things go wrong.

I'm pretty sure that's just The Dilbert Principle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilbert_principle) for people who didn't read Dilbert.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

Will look when not at work.  Ie; Monday.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on November 14, 2015, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 10, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 01:36:45 AM
Quote from: President Television on November 10, 2015, 01:32:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
So, I've just been given a green light to bully my co-workers.

Cain! What is best in life?

Crush your co-workers. See them exasperated before you. Hear the lamentations of their HR reps.


The rulers in city-states also tend to be more responsive to their citizens needs.  Normally because their citizens know where to find them in order to string them up, should they fuck it all up, and organizing a city-wide mob is not as hard as organizing a country-wide mob.  It's at just the right level for a lot of things when it comes to organization, economic viability, democratic governance and so on.
                       \
(http://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Conan-on-what-is-best-in-life.jpg)

This makes me so happy right now.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on November 14, 2015, 10:42:30 PM
I'm glad NET is not daed, also.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

Tim is a dick. 

"WHY DUNT MOOSLUMS CONDEMM ATTAKS?"

"They do."

"THEY SHOOD DO IT MORE, I WASUNT LISSENING."
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 15, 2015, 12:47:02 AM
"Muslims are responsible for my inattentiveness."

Not to mention, for anyone paying attention to a little shitfest called the SYRIAN CIVIL WAR, this is how the alliances are shaping up

Team Assad.  Allies: Iran, Hezbollah, Russia.
Team Rebels.  Allies: Kurds, America, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, USA, UK, France.
Team ISIS. Allies: nobody.

Literally every group in Syria that isn't ISIS is fighting ISIS.  So obviously, all Muslims support ISIS.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

Tim is a dick. 

"WHY DUNT MOOSLUMS CONDEMM ATTAKS?"

"They do."

"THEY SHOOD DO IT MORE, I WASUNT LISSENING."

I just left a couple more Atheist groups today, because of shit exactly like that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 01:00:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

Tim is a dick. 

"WHY DUNT MOOSLUMS CONDEMM ATTAKS?"

"They do."

"THEY SHOOD DO IT MORE, I WASUNT LISSENING."

I just left a couple more Atheist groups today, because of shit exactly like that.

The one I'm still in won't tolerate that shit.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 01:01:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 15, 2015, 12:47:02 AM
"Muslims are responsible for my inattentiveness."

Not to mention, for anyone paying attention to a little shitfest called the SYRIAN CIVIL WAR, this is how the alliances are shaping up

Team Assad.  Allies: Iran, Hezbollah, Russia.
Team Rebels.  Allies: Kurds, America, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, USA, UK, France.
Team ISIS. Allies: nobody.

Literally every group in Syria that isn't ISIS is fighting ISIS.  So obviously, all Muslims support ISIS.

:mittens:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 01:00:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

Tim is a dick. 

"WHY DUNT MOOSLUMS CONDEMM ATTAKS?"

"They do."

"THEY SHOOD DO IT MORE, I WASUNT LISSENING."

I just left a couple more Atheist groups today, because of shit exactly like that.

The one I'm still in won't tolerate that shit.

Which one is that? I think I'm in it but I can't remember the name.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 01:27:36 AM
There's this wretched piece of shit on my wall "Those People are Doing it To Themselves"ing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 01:31:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 01:00:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

Tim is a dick. 

"WHY DUNT MOOSLUMS CONDEMM ATTAKS?"

"They do."

"THEY SHOOD DO IT MORE, I WASUNT LISSENING."

I just left a couple more Atheist groups today, because of shit exactly like that.

The one I'm still in won't tolerate that shit.

Which one is that? I think I'm in it but I can't remember the name.

Butthurt Atheists of the Sea.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 01:35:43 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 01:31:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 01:00:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2015, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 14, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Hey, anyone want to fuck with a couple of dimwits on my Facebook page?

One of them's a libertarian....

https://www.facebook.com/lex.marburger

It's the link about muslims condemning the Paris attacks.  Look for Tim and Clarke's posts.

Tim is a dick. 

"WHY DUNT MOOSLUMS CONDEMM ATTAKS?"

"They do."

"THEY SHOOD DO IT MORE, I WASUNT LISSENING."

I just left a couple more Atheist groups today, because of shit exactly like that.

The one I'm still in won't tolerate that shit.

Which one is that? I think I'm in it but I can't remember the name.

Butthurt Atheists of the Sea.

:lulz: OK, nope, I was not a member of that one.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 15, 2015, 02:01:42 AM
I'm going over the stuff here for a bit, then going to fall over for an indeterminate period. Saw a poem embedded in an article Nigel put up on FB. couldn't get a straight copy, so I took a screenshot and edited it some to get just the poem and add a bit of effect from my limited app options. I'm tacking it here if anyone wants to look and maybe spread a much needed message. Source screencap also enclosed.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 07:10:17 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 15, 2015, 02:01:42 AM
I'm going over the stuff here for a bit, then going to fall over for an indeterminate period. Saw a poem embedded in an article Nigel put up on FB. couldn't get a straight copy, so I took a screenshot and edited it some to get just the poem and add a bit of effect from my limited app options. I'm tacking it here if anyone wants to look and maybe spread a much needed message. Source screencap also enclosed.

That one really stood out to me, too. I'm glad I wasn't alone in that, and thanks for editing the image to make it more shareable.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on November 15, 2015, 07:18:02 AM
I'm staying out of all the discussion on Facebook, but I do admit to feeling a bit cynical about people changing their profile pic colors as well.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 15, 2015, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 14, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 14, 2015, 06:57:30 AM
oh hey, does anyone remember my friend who was having problems with an internet stalker a while back? the one who wanted to avoid giving said stalker any attention lest he be encouraged? well, recent events against her and some close friends of hers, she is starting to warm up to the idea of giving these guys a taste of hell, which leads me to ask, would anyone here be interested in catfishing/doxxing/or otherwise outtrolling a couple of MRA shitnecks?

Can I make s.t.a.l.k.e.r refrences? Anu cheeki breeki

......i'm gonna say no. Just cuz.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
Yo brain cut this shit out. It's been a year, stop dreaming of her. It wasn't even that good, and she cheated on you anyways.
I don't know what you need to stop it, but if you keep doing this im buying you that lobotomy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Shit am I pyshic? I checked her fb and fucking first post, one hour ago. They're making fun of me.
God damn, I should of kept her blocked.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Shit am I pyshic? I checked her fb and fucking first post, one hour ago. They're making fun of me.
God damn, I should of kept her blocked.

Yes, you are pyshic.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 06:39:42 PM
Pyshic dream powers go.

I will also fuck my self as a girl and smoke a huge cigar afterwards comically . According to 2 days ago.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 06:39:42 PM
Pyshic dream powers go.

I will also fuck my self as a girl and smoke a huge cigar afterwards comically . According to 2 days ago.

I don't know what "pyshic" mean, but you go, girl.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 15, 2015, 07:36:25 PM
It means hillbillies who are really into their K-Pop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=9bZkp7q19f0&gl=GB)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 07:48:39 PM
Then idk what word my auto correct has in it, or why, but it'd make a interesting story to find out.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 07:48:39 PM
Then idk what word my auto correct has in it, or why, but it'd make a interesting story to find out.

It's a bit of a mystery. If you meant "psychic", the letters aren't even in the right order, let alone all there.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on November 15, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
Those days when you don't have enough food in the fridge for a complete meal, so you just kind of subsist on chocolate milk, a bit of sausage, and a green bell pepper.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 08:29:43 PM
Quote from: Nast on November 15, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
Those days when you don't have enough food in the fridge for a complete meal, so you just kind of subsist on chocolate milk, a bit of sausage, and a green bell pepper.

That is me every single day when there are no kids or boyfriend around to feed. I'll totally just live on tea, stale cheese curls and pudding cups if there's no one around to cook for.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 15, 2015, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nast on November 15, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
Those days when you don't have enough food in the fridge for a complete meal, so you just kind of subsist on chocolate milk, a bit of sausage, and a green bell pepper.

This is why I keep 50,000 packets and tins of soup around.

Soup is a perfectly viable breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 15, 2015, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nast on November 15, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
Those days when you don't have enough food in the fridge for a complete meal, so you just kind of subsist on chocolate milk, a bit of sausage, and a green bell pepper.

This is why I keep 50,000 packets and tins of soup around.

Soup is a perfectly viable breakfast, lunch and dinner.

For me, it's crackers and tinned fish.

This sometimes leads to gastrointestinal repercussions.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 15, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
I'm only allowed soup :(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 15, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
I'm only allowed soup :(

Whaaaat? Why?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 15, 2015, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 15, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
I'm only allowed soup :(

Whaaaat? Why?

My diet.  I could probably get away with the fish, but crackers, bread, anything like that is well out of the question.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 15, 2015, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 15, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
I'm only allowed soup :(

Whaaaat? Why?

My diet.  I could probably get away with the fish, but crackers, bread, anything like that is well out of the question.

Oh, gotcha.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on November 16, 2015, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 06:39:42 PM
Pyshic dream powers go.

I will also fuck my self as a girl and smoke a huge cigar afterwards comically . According to 2 days ago.

I don't know what "pyshic" mean, but you go, girl.

Referencing urbandictionary, he is a program written in Python that performs "the act of shitting on a Mexican illegal then proceeding to deport him only to have his 5 brothers attack you therefore leaving you wounded, while using some of your income to pay for their health care"
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 16, 2015, 02:12:33 AM
Jesus christ, how can there possibly be this many fuckers needing this much shit from Home Depot today? All you needy motherfuckers get the hell out of my store and leave me alone.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 16, 2015, 02:52:02 AM
But they need to buy supplies for fallout shelters to prepare for the incoming ISIS invasion via refugees.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on November 16, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Shit am I pyshic? I checked her fb and fucking first post, one hour ago. They're making fun of me.
God damn, I should of kept her blocked.

They are making fun of you a year on? Sounds like you lost a real catch.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 16, 2015, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 16, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Shit am I pyshic? I checked her fb and fucking first post, one hour ago. They're making fun of me.
God damn, I should of kept her blocked.

They are making fun of you a year on? Sounds like you lost a real catch.

Alternatively, he really is that bad.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on November 16, 2015, 01:32:58 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 16, 2015, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 16, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Shit am I pyshic? I checked her fb and fucking first post, one hour ago. They're making fun of me.
God damn, I should of kept her blocked.

They are making fun of you a year on? Sounds like you lost a real catch.

Alternatively, he really is that bad.

True that, maybe a bit of both.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 16, 2015, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 15, 2015, 06:39:42 PM
Pyshic dream powers go.

I will also fuck my self as a girl and smoke a huge cigar afterwards comically . According to 2 days ago.

I don't know what "pyshic" mean, but you go, girl.

Referencing urbandictionary, he is a program written in Python that performs "the act of shitting on a Mexican illegal then proceeding to deport him only to have his 5 brothers attack you therefore leaving you wounded, while using some of your income to pay for their health care"

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
It's Monday and I don't want to go to class. I'm going to, of course, but I don't want to.

I had all weekend, almost uninterrupted, to get my assigned readings done and study, but I didn't. Oh, I got a couple assignments done, but reading? Nope.

I am profoundly lacking in the motivation I need to get through the rest of my undergrad.

My goal this week while Alty is visiting the icy ass-end of the North is to write a rough draft of my personal statement. Having at least a rough draft done should put me enough closer to my grad school application being done that maybe I'll be able to focus a little on finishing this term.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2015, 03:25:21 PM
The Paris attacks and ensuing flood of racism all over the Internet isn't really helping with my state of mind.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on November 17, 2015, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2015, 08:29:43 PM
Quote from: Nast on November 15, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
Those days when you don't have enough food in the fridge for a complete meal, so you just kind of subsist on chocolate milk, a bit of sausage, and a green bell pepper.

That is me every single day when there are no kids or boyfriend around to feed. I'll totally just live on tea, stale cheese curls and pudding cups if there's no one around to cook for.

Um, I know right! If it's just myself to feed, I literally have no standards.

Quote from: Cain on November 15, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
I'm only allowed soup :(

Speaking of soup, I finally got my act together last night and went grocery shopping. I ended up making a pureed chickpea soup that sounded good in theory but ended up tasting weird.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on November 17, 2015, 03:04:26 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2015, 03:25:21 PM
The Paris attacks and ensuing flood of racism all over the Internet isn't really helping with my state of mind.

It's definitely been an upsetting couple of days on social media.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 17, 2015, 04:59:36 AM
Hey, I think I finally figured out trolling! I simply have to be sure that I'm not only right, but they won't ever agree with me, so I shouldn't bother trying! This is fun! (Check my Archer FB post to see what I'm talking about).

Cain, I love soup. I know you might not have the best resources, but hit me up if you want ideas.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 17, 2015, 06:00:16 AM
Unfortunately my soup options are limited by the company I buy them from, designed as they are to be had without vitamin supplements and as part of a weight loss program.

I have the wonderful choices of: Chilli, Vegetable, Chicken and Mushroom, Mushroom, Tomato and Basil and Potato and Leek.  And I've never liked potato and leek.  I jazz them up, with pepper, with a touch of garlic, with basil etc, but it's still pretty limited fare.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2015, 01:39:17 PM
Quote from: Nast on November 17, 2015, 03:04:26 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2015, 03:25:21 PM
The Paris attacks and ensuing flood of racism all over the Internet isn't really helping with my state of mind.

It's definitely been an upsetting couple of days on social media.

It suuuuure has. It's been very draining, and I've been having a hard time focusing on studying. I should really just stay off the social media, it's no good for me right now.

Hence waking up at 4:45 am in a state of anxiety over my readiness for my Ecology midterm tomorrow.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2015, 12:03:49 AM
So, I've finally figured out how to record things on my computer without it a) shitting all over the framerate or b) shitting all over the video quality/putting the sound out of sync/creating corrupted files etc.  I think.  Requires more testing to be 100%, but promising thus far.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 18, 2015, 05:16:54 AM
first day of interning out in the field! Today i helped people guy groceries, pick up donated goods, and find a temporary place to stay for the night. Definitely feeling some warm fuzzies.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on November 18, 2015, 05:48:03 AM
Quote from: Nast on November 17, 2015, 03:04:26 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2015, 03:25:21 PM
The Paris attacks and ensuing flood of racism all over the Internet isn't really helping with my state of mind.

It's definitely been an upsetting couple of days on social media.

I'm starting to fear that I'm echo-chambered on Facebook. I haven't seen anyone actually expressing anti-Syrian sentiments, but I know they must be out there judging by all the reactions I'm seeing. Well, that and the way Western politics generally get about this sort of thing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 18, 2015, 07:05:54 AM
You must have yourself pretty well insulated. I envy you.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 18, 2015, 07:10:35 AM
I'm not being sarcastic. I have almost 1800 motherfuckers on my friends list, mostly due to business in my old life. I'd delete them, but Facebook has made it almost impossibly time-consuming.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2015, 11:28:02 AM
I haven't seen as much, but even with only 150 odd friends, I've had Britain First videos and Youtube "documentaries" on the evils of the perfidious Moslems posted to my timeline.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 18, 2015, 12:50:41 PM
1800?  I'd NOPE the whole thing for a few weeks; I wouldn't be able to take it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 18, 2015, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

At this point, I figured you'd have enough practice you could just da'esh one off.







:asshat:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2015, 05:30:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 18, 2015, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

At this point, I figured you'd have enough practice you could just da'esh one off.







:asshat:

:walken:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2015, 05:31:23 PM
Daesh is in and of itself a terrible pun, so I'm not even sure what that makes that post.  A metaterripun?

That said, it is actually being written fairly fast.  Two pages already, and I've taken a few breaks.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:01:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 18, 2015, 12:50:41 PM
1800?  I'd NOPE the whole thing for a few weeks; I wouldn't be able to take it.

I got rid of almost 100 tonight. I think that if I make it a goal to delete 100 people a week until I'm down to just people I know I want  to talk to, it will be achievable.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:01:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

Will you be linking it here?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:08:32 AM
In the last couple of days one old friend (no college education) decided to educate me about transgenics, and another (an art major) offered me an accessible explanation of ethical and credibility issues in journal publication.


I have this feeling that no matter how far I go with my education, there will always be plenty of people who, despite knowing me and hypothetically knowing what I do, will be willing to mansplain topics that are within my area of expertise. I look forward to achieving the level of Zen that will make it possible for me to view these instances with more humor than irritation.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2015, 04:02:54 PM
Nigel, who are we kidding?  You'll just kill them, and we shall cheer you on.

Also, why is the board so fucking slow today?  I mean in terms of load times.  It's insane.  60-90 seconds per page, the rest of the internet is fine.

Also also, teh flukes are in rare form.  If you could see what I see...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2015, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:01:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

Will you be linking it here?

Yes, once it's published.  It's currently in editorial hell, being processed.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 19, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:01:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

Will you be linking it here?

Yes, once it's published.  It's currently in editorial hell, being processed.

It's not that bad, you just forget sometimes that sentences aren't 300 words long  :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2015, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 19, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:01:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

Will you be linking it here?

Yes, once it's published.  It's currently in editorial hell, being processed.

It's not that bad, you just forget sometimes that sentences aren't 300 words long  :lulz:

Well they should be.

James is also making fun of me for using double spaces at the end of the sentences that do actually end  :sad:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 19, 2015, 09:30:58 PM
The Victor Hugo (http://www.gavroche.org/vhugo/sentence.shtml) of IR, ladies and gentlemen.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
So, my testing for recording seems all good.  OBS is definitely the way to go, it records with almost no impact and with half the file size of the other methods, and because it doesn't use a variable framerate or weird encoding system it doesn't spazz out.

So, that means, before I start recording Skyrim gameplay again, I have questions; I will be using the Requiem overhaul, for more interesting gameplay.

Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 19, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
Which one is cutest?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2015, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 19, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:01:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

Will you be linking it here?

Yes, once it's published.  It's currently in editorial hell, being processed.

It's not that bad, you just forget sometimes that sentences aren't 300 words long  :lulz:

Well they should be.

James is also making fun of me for using double spaces at the end of the sentences that do actually end  :sad:

James is a heathen, and has no business monkeying with the written word.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2015, 10:15:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 19, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
Which one is cutest?

Fortunately, with Skyrim I have complete control over the appearance of my character.  Well, almost.  Fortunately, Requiem's race edits conflict with almost all the popular "models in bikini armor" mods out there.

That said, I will almost certainly play an Imperial (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SR-race-Imperial.jpg) or a Dunmer (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SR-race-Dunmer.jpg).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2015, 10:16:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2015, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on November 19, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 05:01:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2015, 04:49:31 PM
Writing a piece on ISIS.  Again.

Will you be linking it here?

Yes, once it's published.  It's currently in editorial hell, being processed.

It's not that bad, you just forget sometimes that sentences aren't 300 words long  :lulz:

Well they should be.

James is also making fun of me for using double spaces at the end of the sentences that do actually end  :sad:

James is a heathen, and has no business monkeying with the written word.

I know, right?  Look, just because double-spacing is probably a conspiracy cooked up by the paper production industry doesn't mean it's a bad idea.  Just the opposite.  Fuck trees anyway, what have they done for us lately?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 10:30:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2015, 04:02:54 PM
Nigel, who are we kidding?  You'll just kill them, and we shall cheer you on.

Also, why is the board so fucking slow today?  I mean in terms of load times.  It's insane.  60-90 seconds per page, the rest of the internet is fine.

Also also, teh flukes are in rare form.  If you could see what I see...

What does the doctor say about that?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2015, 10:30:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2015, 04:02:54 PM
Nigel, who are we kidding?  You'll just kill them, and we shall cheer you on.

Also, why is the board so fucking slow today?  I mean in terms of load times.  It's insane.  60-90 seconds per page, the rest of the internet is fine.

Also also, teh flukes are in rare form.  If you could see what I see...

What does the doctor say about that?

"It's going to come and go, but might fade after a few years."

I'm okay with this.  It beats what used to happen.  Now instead of screaming paranoia, I just get moody as fuck.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 19, 2015, 11:01:28 PM
There are apparently meds that will blunt the visual stuff to some degree, but they apparently have side effects I am unwilling to deal with, given that this really isn't that bad.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on November 19, 2015, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
So, my testing for recording seems all good.  OBS is definitely the way to go, it records with almost no impact and with half the file size of the other methods, and because it doesn't use a variable framerate or weird encoding system it doesn't spazz out.

So, that means, before I start recording Skyrim gameplay again, I have questions; I will be using the Requiem overhaul, for more interesting gameplay.

Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.

Spellblade looks most fun to watch, though nightblade could also be fun if your mods add interesting Illusion spells. I dunno about the survivalism, though. While I imagine it adds depth to gameplay, it's probably tedious to a passive viewer. Unless you can really fill time with your commentary, I think I'd advise against it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 12:13:55 AM
Requiem's Illusion spells (https://requiem.atlassian.net/wiki/display/REQ18/Illusion+Spells).  I might also use the Apocalypse Spell Package (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16225/?tab=9&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmodreadme%2F%3Fid%3D16225&pUp=1), though some of them are fairly cheesy (Hidden Cobra followed by Vanish = enemy with 1 HP).

Survivalism...eh, it depends.  I can edit some of that stuff down, and Frostfall, for example, does actually have you do things to mitigate against the cold (collect wood, build fires, pitch tents etc).  Hunterborn makes foraging, skinning and gathering ingredients more in depth without being too tedious (there are neat animations and stuff to go along with the skinning etc).  Eating and sleeping is boring, but it's also fairly easy.  Plus it's that element of danger and survivalism.  Do I take the extra potions, or wood in case of a snowstorm?  Do I kill these bandits and take their fire, or make camp somewhere safer?  Fast travel is disabled by standard in Requiem, so I'll be out in the wild a lot anyway...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on November 20, 2015, 01:01:23 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 12:13:55 AM
Requiem's Illusion spells (https://requiem.atlassian.net/wiki/display/REQ18/Illusion+Spells).  I might also use the Apocalypse Spell Package (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16225/?tab=9&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmodreadme%2F%3Fid%3D16225&pUp=1), though some of them are fairly cheesy (Hidden Cobra followed by Vanish = enemy with 1 HP).

Survivalism...eh, it depends.  I can edit some of that stuff down, and Frostfall, for example, does actually have you do things to mitigate against the cold (collect wood, build fires, pitch tents etc).  Hunterborn makes foraging, skinning and gathering ingredients more in depth without being too tedious (there are neat animations and stuff to go along with the skinning etc).  Eating and sleeping is boring, but it's also fairly easy.  Plus it's that element of danger and survivalism.  Do I take the extra potions, or wood in case of a snowstorm?  Do I kill these bandits and take their fire, or make camp somewhere safer?  Fast travel is disabled by standard in Requiem, so I'll be out in the wild a lot anyway...

Actually, you know what? I've changed my mind. It sounds fine.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 01:18:06 AM
It is a bit tedious in the early stages, but everything is tedious in early Requiem.  Getting one shot by wolves = tedious.  Gathering ingredients so you can make a healing poultice because you only have 27 hp after a wolf nearly one-shot you = tedious.  Walking everywhere = tedious.

Then somewhere between level 20-40 you turn into a demigod with endless riches.  I mean, my Assassin character still gets frequently oneshot by enemies, but I'm at the stage in the game where, with some preparation, I can take out an entire bandit camp without taking a scratch.  I have about 40k in gold, about another 20k in treasure I haven't sold off yet, and I know how to make more money easily (Requiem adds merchant chests, that hold significant inventory and stock.  Like Farengar had 15000 gold alone.  Master locks, but, well, that's not an issue for someone with 100 in lockpicking).

On the other hand, I'm sufficiently scared of Dwemer Spheres that I will sneak around them, and I doubt I could take on a Centurion.  I'm pretty sure I can't kill a dragon without help, and a dragon priest, master vampire or invisible entity would likely strangle me to death with my own entrails.  I'm also pretty sure giant slaughterfish are well beyond my skill.

Hence why I suggested the above 3 classes.  Nightblade and Spellblade have Destruction (and Conjuration in the case of the latter), which make them endgame, dragon killing viable.  Paladin has Restoration, which makes them Dawnguard viable.  May not be quite so good against dragons, but, eh, high enough restoration should make them tanky enough that, in combination with a crossbow they can whittle a dragon down.  Throw in Dawnbreaker or something and once a dragon is on the ground, they might be able to kill it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on November 20, 2015, 01:53:01 AM
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/11/19/dial-666-for-the-emergency-satanists/ (http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/11/19/dial-666-for-the-emergency-satanists/)

Minnesota Satanists!!!!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on November 20, 2015, 02:23:39 AM
A former co-worker just added me to some sort of theology group of other former co-workers who seem terrified of the muslims.

He said it needed balance.

I'm a counterweight?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 02:36:05 AM
He's saying you're fat.  Because you can counterbalance like 15 other people.

Which is pretty rude, IMO.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 20, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
There's a refugee/immigrant in my small town now.

Some libcucks adopted him, he's like 30. Thought this only happened in Sweden.

He's nice though, chill and is the fastest cashier at the gas station.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on November 20, 2015, 03:48:33 AM
I hate this forum for introducing me to the word "cucks".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2015, 04:07:00 AM
Quote from: Nast on November 20, 2015, 03:48:33 AM
I hate this forum

You could have stopped right there.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2015, 04:07:29 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 20, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
There's a refugee/immigrant in my small town now.

Some libcucks adopted him, he's like 30. Thought this only happened in Sweden.

He's nice though, chill and is the fastest cashier at the gas station.

You are a bigger cunt than Brother Nihil was.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 20, 2015, 04:12:24 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on November 20, 2015, 01:53:01 AM
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/11/19/dial-666-for-the-emergency-satanists/ (http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/11/19/dial-666-for-the-emergency-satanists/)

Minnesota Satanists!!!!

20th Century Satanists were kind of dipshits, but I have to say I'm really liking these 21st Century Satanists.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on November 20, 2015, 04:17:43 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 20, 2015, 04:07:00 AM
Quote from: Nast on November 20, 2015, 03:48:33 AM
I hate this forum

You could have stopped right there.

Sadly true.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 20, 2015, 04:26:09 AM
Quote from: Nast on November 20, 2015, 03:48:33 AM
I hate this forum for introducing me to the word "cucks".

I fucking hate how over used it is. I'm glad 4chan put a word filter on it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on November 20, 2015, 05:04:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 02:36:05 AM
He's saying you're fat.  Because you can counterbalance like 15 other people.

Which is pretty rude, IMO.


I've been trying to make a joke about Christopher Hitchens and tight pants but I can't :argh!:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 20, 2015, 06:45:30 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 20, 2015, 04:12:24 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on November 20, 2015, 01:53:01 AM
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/11/19/dial-666-for-the-emergency-satanists/ (http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/11/19/dial-666-for-the-emergency-satanists/)

Minnesota Satanists!!!!

20th Century Satanists were kind of dipshits, but I have to say I'm really liking these 21st Century Satanists.

Yes.

They are adapting into a sleeker and more readily socially approachable form capable of exposition of a living "Satanic" philosophy without getting unduly Ryndie about it. The new "Millennial Satanists", if I may :), have little of the old stygmas to trench though and so have taken on attributes more suitable to ideological proliferation than simple memetic establishment. Why the new Millennial model even has managed to turn the tables on Fundamentalist Christianity by out Christianing them on a regular basis.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on November 20, 2015, 09:09:27 AM
Quote from: President Television on November 19, 2015, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
So, my testing for recording seems all good.  OBS is definitely the way to go, it records with almost no impact and with half the file size of the other methods, and because it doesn't use a variable framerate or weird encoding system it doesn't spazz out.

So, that means, before I start recording Skyrim gameplay again, I have questions; I will be using the Requiem overhaul, for more interesting gameplay.

Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.

Spellblade looks most fun to watch, though nightblade could also be fun if your mods add interesting Illusion spells. I dunno about the survivalism, though. While I imagine it adds depth to gameplay, it's probably tedious to a passive viewer. Unless you can really fill time with your commentary, I think I'd advise against it.

I also vote spellblade as I feel the nightblade is a much more commonly-played archetype. I would be interested in seeing how conjuration works throughout the game.

Survivalism could be interesting - like P.T. said though, as long as you can fill all the chopping/hunting/freezing to death with commentary (or edits?)

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on November 20, 2015, 09:19:26 AM
R.I.P P.T that's still a sore point for me :(

I've always been a huge fan of the Silent Hill games (even the crappier ones like downpour and homecoming) and psychological horror in general. When I heard Kojima and Del Toro were working on it I couldn't believe it, I was convinced something horrible would happen to stop it, and low and behold Konami crash upon the rocks.

[Work news/ shameless bragging]: My power plant got used day before yesterday, around 20 megawatts fed back into the grid to help with the stormy weather I guess, most of it entirely Green energy.

Its been a bit of a frustration for me, we built this thing but never got called on until now, now can actually say its been used.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on November 20, 2015, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 20, 2015, 09:19:26 AM

[Work news/ shameless bragging]: My power plant got used day before yesterday, around 20 megawatts fed back into the grid to help with the stormy weather I guess, most of it entirely Green energy.

Its been a bit of a frustration for me, we built this thing but never got called on until now, now can actually say its been used.

How is the energy generated?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on November 20, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: Xaz on November 20, 2015, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 20, 2015, 09:19:26 AM

[Work news/ shameless bragging]: My power plant got used day before yesterday, around 20 megawatts fed back into the grid to help with the stormy weather I guess, most of it entirely Green energy.

Its been a bit of a frustration for me, we built this thing but never got called on until now, now can actually say its been used.

How is the energy generated?
The non clean is generators so diesel. The clean side is demand reduction: literally turning down big loads resulting in less strain on the grid + less fossil fuels needed to prop up.

The green side of it is technically optimisation of how resources are used instead of generation, but still results in less burning emissions/increased efficiency of the supply grid.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on November 20, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.

I would say Nightblade, as I'm a sucker for the stealth classes, but if it is deemed too overused, I would go with spell blade, both since it would likely be really interesting and to remind myself to branch outside of stealth once in a while.

As for survivalism, while I am on console, so no mods for me, I am interested to see the depth it adds and its affects on the rest of gameplay, so go for it
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: Xaz on November 20, 2015, 09:09:27 AM
Quote from: President Television on November 19, 2015, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
So, my testing for recording seems all good.  OBS is definitely the way to go, it records with almost no impact and with half the file size of the other methods, and because it doesn't use a variable framerate or weird encoding system it doesn't spazz out.

So, that means, before I start recording Skyrim gameplay again, I have questions; I will be using the Requiem overhaul, for more interesting gameplay.

Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.

Spellblade looks most fun to watch, though nightblade could also be fun if your mods add interesting Illusion spells. I dunno about the survivalism, though. While I imagine it adds depth to gameplay, it's probably tedious to a passive viewer. Unless you can really fill time with your commentary, I think I'd advise against it.

I also vote spellblade as I feel the nightblade is a much more commonly-played archetype. I would be interested in seeing how conjuration works throughout the game.

Survivalism could be interesting - like P.T. said though, as long as you can fill all the chopping/hunting/freezing to death with commentary (or edits?)

To be honest, most Requiem players seem to either gravitate to full mage, or some kind of warrior (barbarian, usually.  Light armour + two handed = able to dish damage up close like nothing else, has the speed to close the gap with mages and archers), or the full on battlemage for end-game play.  There is a heavy armour set, specially added in by the mod makers, designed for battlemage classes, but it's a hell of a quest to get it all.  It involves lots of Dwemer dungeon delving, which as I have experienced, is dangerous as fuck.  The old Dragonborn patch, for 1.7.3, was basically balanced around being a level 50+ Battlemage, so end-game content was pretty effectively locked off (that version is now, unfortunately, obsolete. There is another patch but it's not as in depth or hardcore as the changes to the base game or Dawnguard DLC).  I suspect Nightblade isnt as popular because while stealth is pretty powerful against humanoid enemies, once properly levelled, it does nothing for fighting undead, dwemer or dragons, and people would rather put their perk points elsewhere.

I considered adding my own class, the Dunmer Reclamations Knight, into the mix, but I'm still figuring out some of the tweaks for that.  Because it would involve roleplaying a Dunmer crusader for the Three Good Daedra, it would mean reclaiming their artifacts.  Using the Ebony Mail and Ebony Blade would, in essence, involve creating a stealth based, heavy armour using, two handed weapon (which would also require Block) character which would likely also need Alchemy and some form of ranged attack (Destruction?  Archery?) into the mix.  In other words, a mess. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on November 20, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.

I would say Nightblade, as I'm a sucker for the stealth classes, but if it is deemed too overused, I would go with spell blade, both since it would likely be really interesting and to remind myself to branch outside of stealth once in a while.

As for survivalism, while I am on console, so no mods for me, I am interested to see the depth it adds and its affects on the rest of gameplay, so go for it

Some Youtube videos: Hunterborn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_4gj6PA8k) and Frostfall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFJ_bwIKHQ).  The Hunterborn one is quite out of date, the alchemy and equipment overhaul it provides is now quite extensive.

The idea with a Spellblade would be to use Destruction at range, Conjuration for Tanks, Alteration and Light Armor for defence, swords for melee.  Probably also a bit of alchemy and enchanting, but I have a mod, Honed Metal, which allows me to approach NPCs to do my crafting and enchanting for me, provided with the right materials and enough money (much like Morrowind). 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on November 20, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on November 20, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.

I would say Nightblade, as I'm a sucker for the stealth classes, but if it is deemed too overused, I would go with spell blade, both since it would likely be really interesting and to remind myself to branch outside of stealth once in a while.

As for survivalism, while I am on console, so no mods for me, I am interested to see the depth it adds and its affects on the rest of gameplay, so go for it

Some Youtube videos: Hunterborn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_4gj6PA8k) and Frostfall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFJ_bwIKHQ).  The Hunterborn one is quite out of date, the alchemy and equipment overhaul it provides is now quite extensive.

The idea with a Spellblade would be to use Destruction at range, Conjuration for Tanks, Alteration and Light Armor for defence, swords for melee.  Probably also a bit of alchemy and enchanting, but I have a mod, Honed Metal, which allows me to approach NPCs to do my crafting and enchanting for me, provided with the right materials and enough money (much like Morrowind).

Both of them definitely really neat, particularly Frostfall. One of these days/years I'll have to get a computer worth playing games on again. Not that it's the only thing I took away from it, but I do really like the option of being rescued and taken *somewhere* when over exposed rather than the basic die and reload.

Playing as a Spellblade does sound like it could be pretty fun/interesting, again, wanting to try to branch out from my usual character.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 08:57:31 PM
I'll probably go for a more hardcore option, but I'll see exactly what has changed in 3.0.  In the earlier versions, you could set a percentage chance to be rescued, with the variable being if you were travelling with a follower or not.  Hunterborn, while maybe not as visually flashy or fun as Frostfall, was basically built to bridge the gap between Frostfall and basic needs mods, like Realistic Needs and Diseases, or iNeed,  It provided tools and equipment to allow for hunting and cooking while in the wilds, and gave bonuses to the newly added foods to help with exposure or other negative effects from the cold.

Though playing a Spellblade or Nightblade will mean setting fire in the wilds won't be an issue :D
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
OK, the article I wrote is here (https://rebelnews.com/marcsimms/guerre-sans-frontieres-paris-attacks-could-be-isis-death-throes/).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on November 20, 2015, 11:33:50 PM
That was a great piece. People I've linked to your "History of IS" piece have really enjoyed it, too.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2015, 11:43:04 PM
Awesome, cheers.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on November 21, 2015, 01:38:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on November 20, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2015, 09:38:35 PM
Do you want to see survivalism gameplay?  Namely, hypothermia, realistic needs and hunting?  There are mods for this, but I'm waiting for the patches to be updated for the latest version, as the new Frostfall mod has significant performance improvements over the currently patched version.  This will mean the possibility of freezing to death, starving to death etc.

Secondly, what kind of character would you be interested in.  I have a couple of ideas, and I'm pretty open to any of them, as all should be end-game viable.  Basically, your choices are nightblade (stealth and magic), paladin (shiny armor and good magic) or spellblade (fire magic and conjuration and swords). I'll come up with backstories and motivations later.

I would say Nightblade, as I'm a sucker for the stealth classes, but if it is deemed too overused, I would go with spell blade, both since it would likely be really interesting and to remind myself to branch outside of stealth once in a while.

As for survivalism, while I am on console, so no mods for me, I am interested to see the depth it adds and its affects on the rest of gameplay, so go for it

Some Youtube videos: Hunterborn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_4gj6PA8k) and Frostfall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFJ_bwIKHQ).  The Hunterborn one is quite out of date, the alchemy and equipment overhaul it provides is now quite extensive.

The idea with a Spellblade would be to use Destruction at range, Conjuration for Tanks, Alteration and Light Armor for defence, swords for melee.  Probably also a bit of alchemy and enchanting, but I have a mod, Honed Metal, which allows me to approach NPCs to do my crafting and enchanting for me, provided with the right materials and enough money (much like Morrowind).

Frostfall is currently, save or don't, IIRC, and it doesn't currently seem to recognize cloaks and scarves added by other mods that it used to. It feel like it's a whole lot harder to stay warm.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2015, 01:45:00 AM
Bleh, that sucks.

I might have to stick with 2.6 in that case.  It's a bit of a resource hog, but I did some stress tests recording with it, and it wasn't impacting too badly on anything.  Although, the author of the patch I'm going to use has also patched the cloaks mods for Requiem too, so maybe he can make them work together effectively on his own. 

Still, I liked the random chance to freeze to death or be saved :(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Aucoq on November 21, 2015, 04:26:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
OK, the article I wrote is here (https://rebelnews.com/marcsimms/guerre-sans-frontieres-paris-attacks-could-be-isis-death-throes/).

Fantastic article, Cain. I'm sharing it with everyone I know.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2015, 06:08:20 AM
Quote from: Aucoq on November 21, 2015, 04:26:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
OK, the article I wrote is here (https://rebelnews.com/marcsimms/guerre-sans-frontieres-paris-attacks-could-be-isis-death-throes/).

Fantastic article, Cain. I'm sharing it with everyone I know.

Thanks, appreciated.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 21, 2015, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
OK, the article I wrote is here (https://rebelnews.com/marcsimms/guerre-sans-frontieres-paris-attacks-could-be-isis-death-throes/).

Fantastic article. I shared.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on November 21, 2015, 06:52:10 PM
Debtor's prisons: Back in style.

http://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/sheriff-calls-rutherford-countys-probation-system-a-rat-wheel
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on November 21, 2015, 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
OK, the article I wrote is here (https://rebelnews.com/marcsimms/guerre-sans-frontieres-paris-attacks-could-be-isis-death-throes/).

I quite liked it, and shared it.  :D
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 21, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
Ditto.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on November 21, 2015, 09:09:29 PM
Blackhawk finally got me my spending credit back, not much, but enough for indulging some of the things I want, in order of date published.
1) Stunt Rock's Richard Pryor LP
2) One, possibly two of those e-books recently published by he whom is to remain unnamed.

Any suggestions for that last one?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
OK, the article I wrote is here (https://rebelnews.com/marcsimms/guerre-sans-frontieres-paris-attacks-could-be-isis-death-throes/).

Excellent article, Cain. Really well done. I'm posting this on my Wall for the Facebook idiots to misunderstand and argue against.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2015, 01:13:43 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2015, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
OK, the article I wrote is here (https://rebelnews.com/marcsimms/guerre-sans-frontieres-paris-attacks-could-be-isis-death-throes/).

Excellent article, Cain. Really well done. I'm posting this on my Wall for the Facebook idiots to misunderstand and argue against.

But how can they be idiots?  They are on FB

:p
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 22, 2015, 06:43:10 AM
So, the "wolf name" thing.

I think THIS FUCKING GUY (http://gawker.com/manhattan-dentist-arrested-on-horrific-list-of-charges-1743941429) pretty much wins that whole thing forever.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2015, 04:27:38 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 22, 2015, 06:43:10 AM
So, the "wolf name" thing.

I think THIS FUCKING GUY (http://gawker.com/manhattan-dentist-arrested-on-horrific-list-of-charges-1743941429) pretty much wins that whole thing forever.

Sweet jesus

I love that his AMPHETAMINE DEALER was the one to turn him in. Like, you're pretty terrible if you're so terrible that your amphetamine dealer can't live with the idea of you being free and will put his own ass on the line over it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2015, 05:59:00 PM
Maybe he had a change of heart, from looking deep into the eyes of a Wolf.  I hear it can be a life-changing experience.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 22, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Why do people always yell faget while theyre driving away.
3rd person to do it to me while im working. Makes me want to smash in their windshields with the food trays.
But I normally settle for making an anonymous tip to the cops about how they were smoking and had a pretty big bag of weed.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Salty on November 22, 2015, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 22, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Why do people always yell faget while theyre driving away.
3rd person to do it to me while im working. Makes me want to smash in their windshields with the food trays.
But I normally settle for making an anonymous tip to the cops about how they were smoking and had a pretty big bag of weed.

As a dude who's lived with that sort of behavior most of my life: no.

You don't call the cops because someone called you a faggot. That's just pathetic.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 23, 2015, 02:54:41 AM
Quote from: OREGON on November 22, 2015, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: Meunster on November 22, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Why do people always yell faget while theyre driving away.
3rd person to do it to me while im working. Makes me want to smash in their windshields with the food trays.
But I normally settle for making an anonymous tip to the cops about how they were smoking and had a pretty big bag of weed.

As a dude who's lived with that sort of behavior most of my life: no.

You don't call the cops because someone called you a faggot. That's just pathetic.

This.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 23, 2015, 04:57:04 AM
I don't see why not.

They want to be autistic I'll show them true autism. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pergamos on November 23, 2015, 05:09:38 AM
I think Muenster should be confined to a room with Enki for a month so he can get a grasp on what Autism actually is...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 23, 2015, 06:08:14 AM
AUTISM AND IRL SHIT POSTING ARE MY SPECIALITIES. LIFE IS A SHIT POST. MEAN9ING IS MEANING LESS.
nothign mayyer ayets everyhting is full of meaning. everything is shit, yet the world is grat in cotnrast. MY ACTIONS ARENT PERSONAL INSULTS BECAUSE THE WORLD ISNT'T MEANING FUL.

life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. no hooves.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2015, 06:17:43 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 23, 2015, 06:08:14 AM
AUTISM AND IRL SHIT POSTING ARE MY SPECIALITIES. LIFE IS A SHIT POST. MEAN9ING IS MEANING LESS.
nothign mayyer ayets everyhting is full of meaning. everything is shit, yet the world is grat in cotnrast. MY ACTIONS ARENT PERSONAL INSULTS BECAUSE THE WORLD ISNT'T MEANING FUL.

life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. no hooves.

I sincerely hope you are an actual child.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 23, 2015, 06:19:39 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 23, 2015, 06:08:14 AM
AUTISM AND IRL SHIT POSTING ARE MY SPECIALITIES. LIFE IS A SHIT POST. MEAN9ING IS MEANING LESS.
nothign mayyer ayets everyhting is full of meaning. everything is shit, yet the world is grat in cotnrast. MY ACTIONS ARENT PERSONAL INSULTS BECAUSE THE WORLD ISNT'T MEANING FUL.

life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. no hooves.
Your nihilism bores me.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on November 23, 2015, 08:29:14 AM
Did I do something wrong to make people perpetually shit on the apparently persistive presencing absence of what I in turn consider and repeatedly express as meaningful?  Fuck serenity trolls, fuck them in the mauf.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2015, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 23, 2015, 06:19:39 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 23, 2015, 06:08:14 AM
AUTISM AND IRL SHIT POSTING ARE MY SPECIALITIES. LIFE IS A SHIT POST. MEAN9ING IS MEANING LESS.
nothign mayyer ayets everyhting is full of meaning. everything is shit, yet the world is grat in cotnrast. MY ACTIONS ARENT PERSONAL INSULTS BECAUSE THE WORLD ISNT'T MEANING FUL.

life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. no hooves.
Your nihilism bores me.

The affectation of jaded nihilism has been popular for teenagers across millennia.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 23, 2015, 10:13:52 PM
My google fu is weak.

I'm looking for that meme that says something like "If your business can't afford to pay someone a living wage, it's a shitty business that deserves to fail," or something like that, but better said.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 23, 2015, 10:14:57 PM
Not funny, but

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/10/7e/ab/107eab4058634f277e98ce7458c32643.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2015, 11:58:55 PM
That's a good one. And also, a point that I can't believe so many people don't understand.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 24, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
I was having a hard time understanding why I woke up feeling like I am going to die, and then I realized that I have a UTI.

It's going to be a long day.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on November 24, 2015, 06:22:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 24, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
I was having a hard time understanding why I woke up feeling like I am going to die, and then I realized that I have a UTI.

It's going to be a long day.

Oh no! That is seriously the worst. I hope you feel less like dying soon.  :(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 24, 2015, 06:53:31 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2015, 11:58:55 PM
That's a good one. And also, a point that I can't believe so many people don't understand.

Some days, it's tempting to buy into Marxist conceptions of false consciousness.

In gameplay news, I'm working on my modlist now.  I'm going to hold off for a few days and see if the Requiem Survival Experience patches for Frostfall 3.0...if not, I'll use an alternate patch and iNeed, (a lightweight alternative to Realistic Needs and Diseases) and perhaps let Hunterborn sit by the wayside, at least until it also updates to integrate Campfire better.  Backstory and character personality decided upon...my character will be Dunmer, a minor noble of House Telvanni sent to Skyrim to keep an eye on the Thalmor.  No necromancy, partly because it's OP (resurrect Lokil or Malkorn and faceroll every enemy in the game) and partly because it's against Dunmer traditions of ancestor worship (ghosts and daedra are cool, however).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on November 24, 2015, 08:00:22 PM
Wondering whether the hostage-takers in France today were planning their heist for last week but decided to wait a few days for everything to calm down.
"Nah, in a week or so everyone will be less on edge about armed men taking hostages. Wait until then for the robbery."
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 24, 2015, 09:06:23 PM
Quote from: Pæs on November 24, 2015, 08:00:22 PM
Wondering whether the hostage-takers in France today were planning their heist for last week but decided to wait a few days for everything to calm down.
"Nah, in a week or so everyone will be less on edge about armed men taking hostages. Wait until then for the robbery."

:lulz:  Once again, proving the point that criminals are rarely masterminds.  "No, trust me, they totally won't send out a small army of gendarmes after us."
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 25, 2015, 03:27:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2015, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 23, 2015, 06:19:39 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 23, 2015, 06:08:14 AM
AUTISM AND IRL SHIT POSTING ARE MY SPECIALITIES. LIFE IS A SHIT POST. MEAN9ING IS MEANING LESS.
nothign mayyer ayets everyhting is full of meaning. everything is shit, yet the world is grat in cotnrast. MY ACTIONS ARENT PERSONAL INSULTS BECAUSE THE WORLD ISNT'T MEANING FUL.

life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. no hooves.
Your nihilism bores me.

The affectation of jaded nihilism has been popular for teenagers across millennia.

Yeah... when you think about it the very fact that our culture has enough slack in it to allow the tendency to persist into the 20s, 30s, and even no small number of forty-something folks and onwards speaks volumes about how much actual spare time after subsistence needs living in the "first world" affords people.

I wonder if there's a hard mathematical function to describe it. I'd call it the Jerkoff Function. The more time that one has to read nihilo-porn and jerk off, the more of a nothing jerkoff one becomes, absent other factors.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on November 25, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Holy crap.  Has anyone explored today's XKCD?


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/

Hint: Go Right.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 25, 2015, 02:07:16 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 25, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Holy crap.  Has anyone explored today's XKCD?


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/

Hint: Go Right.

WHEEEEEEE

*entire morning disappears*
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 25, 2015, 11:59:35 PM
Quote from: Nast on November 24, 2015, 06:22:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 24, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
I was having a hard time understanding why I woke up feeling like I am going to die, and then I realized that I have a UTI.

It's going to be a long day.

Oh no! That is seriously the worst. I hope you feel less like dying soon.  :(

I feel moderately less like dying, but I definitely do not feel good. I need to make pies but I am tempted to just go to bed and stay there.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 26, 2015, 12:00:51 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 25, 2015, 03:27:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 23, 2015, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 23, 2015, 06:19:39 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 23, 2015, 06:08:14 AM
AUTISM AND IRL SHIT POSTING ARE MY SPECIALITIES. LIFE IS A SHIT POST. MEAN9ING IS MEANING LESS.
nothign mayyer ayets everyhting is full of meaning. everything is shit, yet the world is grat in cotnrast. MY ACTIONS ARENT PERSONAL INSULTS BECAUSE THE WORLD ISNT'T MEANING FUL.

life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. no hooves.
Your nihilism bores me.

The affectation of jaded nihilism has been popular for teenagers across millennia.

Yeah... when you think about it the very fact that our culture has enough slack in it to allow the tendency to persist into the 20s, 30s, and even no small number of forty-something folks and onwards speaks volumes about how much actual spare time after subsistence needs living in the "first world" affords people.

I wonder if there's a hard mathematical function to describe it. I'd call it the Jerkoff Function. The more time that one has to read nihilo-porn and jerk off, the more of a nothing jerkoff one becomes, absent other factors.

:lulz: Please turn this idea into some sort of shareable infographic. Please.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 26, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 25, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Holy crap.  Has anyone explored today's XKCD?


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/

Hint: Go Right.

404. :(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 26, 2015, 12:57:27 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 26, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 25, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Holy crap.  Has anyone explored today's XKCD?


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/

Hint: Go Right.

404. :(

Aww that's really too bad because it's the most fun ever.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on November 26, 2015, 02:07:00 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on November 26, 2015, 12:57:27 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 26, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 25, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Holy crap.  Has anyone explored today's XKCD?


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/

Hint: Go Right.

404. :(

Aww that's really too bad because it's the most fun ever.
http://xkcd.com/1608/
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2015, 02:17:56 AM
Uh oh.

I just figured out how to use ENBs while recording and preserving a watchable framerate.  Behold the power!

Bleak ENB:

(http://i.imgur.com/sBdz20o.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/4zL3ARE.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/VS2KJKl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/4IQNOdw.png)

Grim and Sombre - Hircine preset

(http://i.imgur.com/3JQ1i6s.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DVzBcvK.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/nh8nlkf.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/KuX0qt3.png)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: hooplala on November 26, 2015, 06:14:51 AM
Have I mentioned lately that I love you all?  Because I do.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2015, 07:16:10 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 26, 2015, 06:14:51 AM
Have I mentioned lately that I love you all?  Because I do.

Hoopla's been at the sauce again.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 26, 2015, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on November 26, 2015, 12:57:27 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 26, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: LMNO on November 25, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
Holy crap.  Has anyone explored today's XKCD?


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/

Hint: Go Right.

404. :(

Aww that's really too bad because it's the most fun ever.

:lulz: I found it, but then I got bored.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 26, 2015, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 26, 2015, 06:14:51 AM
Have I mentioned lately that I love you all?  Because I do.

Awwww I love you too, Hoopla! You are awesome and adorable!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2015, 08:01:33 PM
Nigel is also drunk.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 26, 2015, 08:39:59 PM
EVERYONE SUCKS AND I HATE YOU ALL EAT IT LOSERS
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2015, 08:40:41 PM
EoC, however?  STONE COLD SOBER
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 26, 2015, 09:05:10 PM
 :evil:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on November 26, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
What's the Air Force code for drunk pilots ?











        #########
####Flying Saucers#####
      ###########
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on November 26, 2015, 11:40:33 PM
I love all of you, and so does the Meathammah.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: hooplala on November 27, 2015, 01:53:56 AM
Actually I was sober when I wrote that.

NOW, I'm drunk, and I hate you all.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 27, 2015, 06:56:46 AM
I can't move.  Someone wheel me to the vomitorium.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 27, 2015, 07:33:59 AM
Can't. Fox News Building is closed this time of night.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on November 27, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
I haven't been drunk since last new year. I don't love or hate anyone anymore. I'm just numb :horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 27, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 26, 2015, 08:01:33 PM
Nigel is also drunk.

Wasn't.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 27, 2015, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 27, 2015, 06:56:46 AM
I can't move.  Someone wheel me to the vomitorium.

That's how I felt last night.

Now I am merely being punished by my digestive system for my gastronomical indiscretions.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 27, 2015, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 27, 2015, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 27, 2015, 06:56:46 AM
I can't move.  Someone wheel me to the vomitorium.

That's how I felt last night.

Now I am merely being punished by my digestive system for my gastronomical indiscretions.

DEATHBAG
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 27, 2015, 09:09:30 PM
Do you know how sometimes, you say something dumb that stays with you with a lingering sense of embarrassment and regret long after anyone who heard it has forgotten? I did that last night. I flippantly referred to my boyfriend as a "fine piece of ass" to a friend of mine I haven't seen for a while. It was supposed to be funny, but I knew immediately that it wasn't funny. She just sort of stared at me, taken aback, and I instantly wanted to retract my comment BUT THERE'S NO FIXING LOOKING LIKE AN ASSHOLE. She politely said "He seems really nice" and I was like "Yeah, he's great!" while dying inside.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 27, 2015, 09:24:03 PM
If I'd been there, I could have at least said you were drunk, as a get of jail free card.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on November 27, 2015, 09:42:34 PM
I ate half of a rather large pumpkin pie last night.  I thought this was well within my capacity.  Expelling it by fever through my pores and lacrimary ducts well, that was novel.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 27, 2015, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 27, 2015, 09:24:03 PM
If I'd been there, I could have at least said you were drunk, as a get of jail free card.

Hopefully she just assumed; I started drinking at 12:30 and this took place around 6:45.

I am also kind of hoping that she was drunk too, and doesn't remember it at all.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 27, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
Everyone is always drunk.

Except EoC, that sober son of a bitch.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 02:58:54 AM
WHY DID I GO TO A BDSM CLUB
This place is just fat 30 yr olds and skinny 50 year olds.

Every one is just making small talk and standing around. 
This is not even my fetishs anymore. REEE
Permanently scared.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 03:01:32 AM
Reee the people here are worse then highschool anime clubs.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 04:06:32 AM
I take back what I said.  Strip cards agianst humanity is fun.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 28, 2015, 04:12:52 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 02:58:54 AM
WHY DID I GO TO A BDSM CLUB
This place is just fat 30 yr olds and skinny 50 year olds.

Every one is just making small talk and standing around. 
This is not even my fetishs anymore. REEE
Permanently scared.

I gotta ask, who did you EXPECT to find there?   :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 28, 2015, 04:25:30 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 02:58:54 AM
fat 30 yr olds and skinny 50 year olds.

Every one is just making small talk and standing around. 

Sounds like a BDSM club to me.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 04:36:14 AM
I expected everything from college kids experimenting to old elitist snobs.
I did not expect the mean of those two.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 28, 2015, 04:47:18 AM
Yeah well the important thing is that like all people they're just extras in the grand play of your personal experience, filling in the gaps between your periods of deep self absorption and actual agency in the fucking world.

You dick.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 04:54:43 AM
Whoa, hold up.

You forget the person I think is the most useless and meaningless is myself. And I take no pride or superiority in hating myself. Everyone does that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 28, 2015, 06:32:35 AM
You should go away for a few minutes and don't come back until you've shut up.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 07:01:11 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 28, 2015, 06:32:35 AM
You should go away for a few minutes and don't come back until you've shut up.

Alright
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 28, 2015, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 04:36:14 AM
I expected everything from college kids experimenting to old elitist snobs.
I did not expect the mean of those two.
I dont think you quite get how means work.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on November 28, 2015, 07:57:51 PM
For Perceptrons, mean values indicate areas of generous feasability.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 28, 2015, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on November 28, 2015, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 28, 2015, 04:36:14 AM
I expected everything from college kids experimenting to old elitist snobs.
I did not expect the mean of those two.
I dont think you quite get how means work.

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 30, 2015, 06:16:49 AM
So I'm like 95% done on my modlist for the Requiem playthrough, barring RSE getting patched before next weekend.  And even that would be a simple swap and repatch.

However, I am being indecisive about lighting.  On the one hand, I could, with minimal performance impact, install something like this (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/63297/?).  It will make the game more realistically darker, which won't matter too much for us (since we won't be using stealth), but it will add to immersion, require the use of light spells/torches in dungeons and other fun stuff.  It would then be easy to add in something like Dynavision for dynamic depth of field, and the job's done.  Climates of Tamriel provides a bit of colour as well as weather support, and the game will look much better.

Or I could use an ENB.  I've done some testing with various ENBs around, and I can still maintain 30FPS while recording using some of the ones based off the latest binaries.  Based off testing, the two that seem most promising are Grim and Sombre - Hircine (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50501/?) or Vividian (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36067/?).  However, they are definitely more demanding, and I cannot guarantee a definite 30 FPS in certain demanding zones, like say Riften Market or the road to Whiterun's outskirts.

I'll be recording at 30 FPS regardless, as I cannot guarantee a smooth 60 FPS even without ENBs (Skyrim's engine is basically crap at multi-threading, and for some reason NPCs place a lot of demand on the system), but I thought I should ask here for thoughts.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 30, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
I was surprised to find out this guy didn't know who cthulu was.
More surprised when he didn't know what a clit was.

Work was fun.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on November 30, 2015, 10:39:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 30, 2015, 06:16:49 AM
<snip>
However, I am being indecisive about lighting.  On the one hand, I could, with minimal performance impact, install something like this (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/63297/?).  It will make the game more realistically darker, which won't matter too much for us (since we won't be using stealth), but it will add to immersion, require the use of light spells/torches in dungeons and other fun stuff.  It would then be easy to add in something like Dynavision for dynamic depth of field, and the job's done.  Climates of Tamriel provides a bit of colour as well as weather support, and the game will look much better.

Or I could use an ENB.  I've done some testing with various ENBs around, and I can still maintain 30FPS while recording using some of the ones based off the latest binaries.  Based off testing, the two that seem most promising are Grim and Sombre - Hircine (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50501/?) or Vividian (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36067/?).  However, they are definitely more demanding, and I cannot guarantee a definite 30 FPS in certain demanding zones, like say Riften Market or the road to Whiterun's outskirts.

I'll be recording at 30 FPS regardless, as I cannot guarantee a smooth 60 FPS even without ENBs (Skyrim's engine is basically crap at multi-threading, and for some reason NPCs place a lot of demand on the system), but I thought I should ask here for thoughts.

The grim and sombre ENB (from screenshots I have seen) seems to make the game very gloomy. Vividian looks better to me but from the sounds of things your first idea with the realistic lighting & Dynavision could work out even better.

Quote from: Meunster on November 30, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
I was surprised to find out this guy didn't know who cthulu was.
More surprised when he didn't know what a clit was.

Work was fun.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7d/4a/03/7d4a03bbe3897df2543fb4613b3606bd.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on November 30, 2015, 11:24:24 AM
Vividian definitely gave great performance, I was just looking over my test videos again and it was comparable with so-called "performance" ENBs like Realvision while looking at least 10x better, with the DoF and particle effects and so on.

However, it was a little bright, during the day.  In the shadows, dungeons or at night it looked good, but on a clear day, Markarth looked positively cheery.  It's possible with the CoT patch, this wouldn't be as much of an issue (my testing was done on vanilla lighting).  Edit: CoT and ELE-Lite/Relighting Skyrim looks pretty good.  Also leaves the door open to possibly having Vividian later, as it is already patched for those.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on November 30, 2015, 08:15:58 PM
So, Dan Carlin's podcast "Common Sense" has been talked about a little bit on FB today, so I wanted to bring up... the Common Sense with Dan Carlin Facebook group. It is, shall we say, a treasure trove of asshats with a few okay sorts.

What kind of people are in there? Well, let's just say they're already REALLY MAD at Roger and Nigel, they just don't know it yet.

It's kind of hilarious, because the most vocal members of the group are well below the bar set by the podcast they claim to be fans of. Carlin himself is not active in the group.

A few standouts:

Fred, who thinks about global warming every day. The kind of guy who thinks that climate change is not real because Al Gore flies in airplanes. If humanity was killed by an asteroid, Fred would be ecstatic because at least it would mean that the climate scientists were wrong about climate change being the thing that kills us.

Mat, who is the Lord Regent of Strawmania. He can strawman literally any argument you make. It's almost uncanny.

Cam, who I just discovered today is a Dawkins apologist and thinks Ahmed deserved what he got for that clock. He's super mad that people came out in support after the incident.

I'd been keeping it to myself for a while but I decided to share the fun. Being sincere and reasonable is definitely the right way to go with these guys.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on November 30, 2015, 08:54:00 PM
The memes and jokes of today are becoming the reality of tomorrow. 
I'm scared.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2015, 09:43:06 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on November 30, 2015, 08:15:58 PM
So, Dan Carlin's podcast "Common Sense" has been talked about a little bit on FB today, so I wanted to bring up... the Common Sense with Dan Carlin Facebook group. It is, shall we say, a treasure trove of asshats with a few okay sorts.

What kind of people are in there? Well, let's just say they're already REALLY MAD at Roger and Nigel, they just don't know it yet.

It's kind of hilarious, because the most vocal members of the group are well below the bar set by the podcast they claim to be fans of. Carlin himself is not active in the group.

A few standouts:

Fred, who thinks about global warming every day. The kind of guy who thinks that climate change is not real because Al Gore flies in airplanes. If humanity was killed by an asteroid, Fred would be ecstatic because at least it would mean that the climate scientists were wrong about climate change being the thing that kills us.

Mat, who is the Lord Regent of Strawmania. He can strawman literally any argument you make. It's almost uncanny.

Cam, who I just discovered today is a Dawkins apologist and thinks Ahmed deserved what he got for that clock. He's super mad that people came out in support after the incident.

I'd been keeping it to myself for a while but I decided to share the fun. Being sincere and reasonable is definitely the right way to go with these guys.

Oh my.  :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on November 30, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
I've been having a great time. Hardly got any work done today. :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 01, 2015, 04:47:19 AM
Quote from: Meunster on November 30, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
I was surprised to find out this guy didn't know who cthulu was.
More surprised when he didn't know what a clit was.

Work was fun.

Is he 17?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 01, 2015, 04:48:51 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on November 30, 2015, 08:15:58 PM
So, Dan Carlin's podcast "Common Sense" has been talked about a little bit on FB today, so I wanted to bring up... the Common Sense with Dan Carlin Facebook group. It is, shall we say, a treasure trove of asshats with a few okay sorts.

What kind of people are in there? Well, let's just say they're already REALLY MAD at Roger and Nigel, they just don't know it yet.

It's kind of hilarious, because the most vocal members of the group are well below the bar set by the podcast they claim to be fans of. Carlin himself is not active in the group.

A few standouts:

Fred, who thinks about global warming every day. The kind of guy who thinks that climate change is not real because Al Gore flies in airplanes. If humanity was killed by an asteroid, Fred would be ecstatic because at least it would mean that the climate scientists were wrong about climate change being the thing that kills us.

Mat, who is the Lord Regent of Strawmania. He can strawman literally any argument you make. It's almost uncanny.

Cam, who I just discovered today is a Dawkins apologist and thinks Ahmed deserved what he got for that clock. He's super mad that people came out in support after the incident.

I'd been keeping it to myself for a while but I decided to share the fun. Being sincere and reasonable is definitely the right way to go with these guys.

Oh wow. Winter break is coming, and I'm gonna get bored and antsy.  :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2015, 03:55:31 AM
Well, I finished Life During Wartime.  Sort of.  I have apparently left a plot hole so big you could stick Ted Cruz's lips through it.  So there's a bit of re-writing to be done, but essentially, it's done.  And everyone got what they deserved.  Good & hard.

Tales from Fat Ernie's is chugging along (and is in fact why LDW took so long).  It's become a trailer park horrorshow that makes me giggle in the wee hours.  So far, it's 16000 words of degeneracy, murder, and Elvis Paisley.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 02, 2015, 01:14:02 PM
Totally awesome.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 02, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
That's cool!

I'm basically chugging along fine. A combination of seasonal affective bullshit and 18 credits is definitely sapping my will to live, but on the other hand I get to spend the last hours of every day with Alty, who is the most delightful, handsome, and sweet man ever made of meat, so it's probably hitting me less hard than usual.

First finals are on Monday, and the other two are on Tuesday, so I won't be doing much beyond gibbering incomprehensibly between now and then.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 02, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Day 1 of "hanging around with spies while learning about the cyber-jihad and not to give my handwriting to strangers" is over.

Think I'm going to get a hamburger from room service.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 02, 2015, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Day 1 of "hanging around with spies while learning about the cyber-jihad and not to give my handwriting to strangers" is over.

Think I'm going to get a hamburger from room service.
Whoa.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 02, 2015, 04:25:09 PM
There was also an...interesting amount of Anonymous discussion.

If you had told me 10 years ago I'd be discussing "rickrolling" with private industry and national intelligence officials, I would have asked for some of your stash.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 02, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
"Mr. Cain I'm glad you could join us."

"Yes, the black bag over my head was rather convincing."

"It's best for you if you don't know where you are."

"147 Rue de-"

"Nevermind that. I'm going to show you a photograph Mr. Cain. I want you to tell me something about the photograph."

The man slides a glossy printout across the steel tabletop.

"Do you, or do any of your associates, know if this cat can haz cheezburger?"
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 02, 2015, 05:07:58 PM
I had two people, separately, mention "charging their laz0rs" to me today.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on December 02, 2015, 05:18:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2015, 05:07:58 PM
I had two people, separately, mention "charging their laz0rs" to me today.
Those are some vintage memes.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 02, 2015, 05:20:59 PM
The cybersecurity expert doing the talk did explain that rickrolling was an overused meme.

However, you have to remember, this was to a room full of people who use phrases like "terminate the target" like they are ordering a coffee.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 02, 2015, 06:06:39 PM
So what I'm getting here is that the dankness of memes is a matter of national security. We need our memes to be more dank than the terrorists.

Even if that's not true I'm going to keep believing it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 02, 2015, 06:11:38 PM
They are undecided as to whether the memes are a force multiplier or not because they do not have a means by which to classify their dankness.

Basically.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 02, 2015, 06:44:22 PM
Have any of them really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like dank memes?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2015, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on November 30, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
I've been having a great time. Hardly got any work done today. :lulz:

I am a sucker.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Charged all by himself.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 02, 2015, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2015, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on November 30, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
I've been having a great time. Hardly got any work done today. :lulz:

I am a sucker.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Charged all by himself.

Yeah I posted about it in here after going on a spree and kinda burned myself out a little. I'm still in, though.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2015, 01:20:13 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Day 1 of "hanging around with spies while learning about the cyber-jihad and not to give my handwriting to strangers" is over.

Think I'm going to get a hamburger from room service.

Your life is really, really weird, Cain.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2015, 01:22:14 AM
I started transcribing my Dev Bio notes today. Six typewritten pages, haven't really made a dent.

I can post them here when I'm done if anyone is interested. I have a hard time imagining anyone would be interested, but the offer stands.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 03, 2015, 04:50:24 AM
Anyone have tips for getting out of bed in the morning?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 03, 2015, 05:04:32 AM
challenge the negative thoughts that tie you there.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 03, 2015, 05:11:16 AM
No i mean like,  when I wake up im so comfy nothing else matters. It is the pinnacle of bliss and what heaven must feel like. I'd love to stay there all day, but I got shit to do.

Should I just get a more annoying alarm? Or set my heater to turn off at midnight? Any other tricks?

Thanks for the caring though. I should of worded it differently.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on December 03, 2015, 05:38:07 AM
Keep your alarm further away from your bed so you have to get up to turn it off. Don't get back into bed.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2015, 06:25:23 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2015, 01:20:13 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Day 1 of "hanging around with spies while learning about the cyber-jihad and not to give my handwriting to strangers" is over.

Think I'm going to get a hamburger from room service.

Your life is really, really weird, Cain.

I ended up not getting a hamburger from the room service, so it wasn't that weird.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2015, 06:25:42 AM
Quote from: Pæs on December 03, 2015, 05:38:07 AM
Keep your alarm further away from your bed so you have to get up to turn it off. Don't get back into bed.

Also correct.

Or just never sleep.  That works.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 03, 2015, 06:29:30 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 03, 2015, 06:25:42 AM
Quote from: Pæs on December 03, 2015, 05:38:07 AM
Keep your alarm further away from your bed so you have to get up to turn it off. Don't get back into bed.

Also correct.

Or just never sleep.  That works.

I try to only sleep every other day.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on December 03, 2015, 08:03:33 AM
Drink a pint of water before bed. If that doesn't work, drink two.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on December 03, 2015, 09:01:15 AM
I'm working away at the Matasano (http://cryptopals.com/) Crypto Challenges as I finish Chuck Easttom's "Modern Crypography" and work towards relevant math on Khan Academy. Once I refactor the code which cracks Vigenère ciphers (or similar), I'm starting to have the makings of a decent toolset for attacking encryption functions for security capture-the-flag competitions, which will be handy.

Some colleagues of mine and I have got one coming up at the end of next week which should be a good chance to test it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on December 03, 2015, 09:41:45 AM
Wow those look fun, I eventually hit a plateau in project Euler that I was unable to get any farther in them and wasn't enjoying them very much. Will have to give those a try out.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 03, 2015, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on December 02, 2015, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2015, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on November 30, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
I've been having a great time. Hardly got any work done today. :lulz:

I am a sucker.   :lulz:

TGRR,
Charged all by himself.

Yeah I posted about it in here after going on a spree and kinda burned myself out a little. I'm still in, though.

I'll probably join after Finals.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 03, 2015, 10:03:21 PM
Quote from: Pæs on December 03, 2015, 09:01:15 AM
I'm working away at the Matasano (http://cryptopals.com/) Crypto Challenges as I finish Chuck Easttom's "Modern Crypography" and work towards relevant math on Khan Academy. Once I refactor the code which cracks Vigenère ciphers (or similar), I'm starting to have the makings of a decent toolset for attacking encryption functions for security capture-the-flag competitions, which will be handy.

Some colleagues of mine and I have got one coming up at the end of next week which should be a good chance to test it.
Quote from: Faust on December 03, 2015, 09:41:45 AM
Wow those look fun, I eventually hit a plateau in project Euler that I was unable to get any farther in them and wasn't enjoying them very much. Will have to give those a try out.
Enticing me too.  Have no time now...  Though what if I could best Alex's time? 
[^c^c^x^z - exiting now]
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 04, 2015, 06:41:12 AM
Hey, so I'm doing some research comparing the crazy extremes of the political spectrum.

Where to find far right/left media?

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 04, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
So I learned who wrote the Underdark campaign for D&D 5th. 

Kinser(sp?) and Co. 

Have yet to stop frothing at the mouth.  There's just so much rage now, I can't stop cursing.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on December 04, 2015, 09:13:20 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 04, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
So I learned who wrote the Underdark campaign for D&D 5th. 

Kinser(sp?) and Co. 

Have yet to stop frothing at the mouth.  There's just so much rage now, I can't stop cursing.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

:?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on December 04, 2015, 01:50:42 PM
Profound-sounding bullshit generator

http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 05, 2015, 04:47:13 AM
GAY BAR
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 05, 2015, 07:23:48 AM
I have ripped audio from very hardcore bdsm gay porn. It is basically loud whip sounds and screams of terror. It is now set as my alarm clock.
If this doesn't wake me up in the morning fearing for my life. Then I have no hope for waking up on time for anything.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 05, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on December 04, 2015, 09:13:20 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 04, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
So I learned who wrote the Underdark campaign for D&D 5th. 

Kinser(sp?) and Co. 

Have yet to stop frothing at the mouth.  There's just so much rage now, I can't stop cursing.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

:?

That was the Demogorgon encounter at 3rd level thing, the underdark campaign.  Kinser and Co. are a bunch of guys who made games for 2nd ed D&D players when that went to 3rd.  They made Hackmaster, among other things.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 05, 2015, 07:39:54 AM
Also, I just made up a joke.


What do you call a mini skirt?  A booty cowl.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2015, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 05, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on December 04, 2015, 09:13:20 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 04, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
So I learned who wrote the Underdark campaign for D&D 5th. 

Kinser(sp?) and Co. 

Have yet to stop frothing at the mouth.  There's just so much rage now, I can't stop cursing.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

:?

That was the Demogorgon encounter at 3rd level thing, the underdark campaign.  Kinser and Co. are a bunch of guys who made games for 2nd ed D&D players when that went to 3rd.  They made Hackmaster, among other things.

It's just one of the most powerful demon princes of the Abyss, with a CR number larger than the population of some countries.  What's the big problem?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2015, 04:45:41 PM
Back from the Hague.  My knees are fucked and I'm having to look up months old bank transactions and emails, because the company who did my computer upgrades is now insisting I have not paid them, when I know for fucking sure that I have.

Fuckers even threatened me with legal action.  Cleared up one payment issue, but now suddenly there is a problem with another one.  Just checked and they're definitely talking bullshit.  I don't know if this is shoddy book-keeping or some kind of weird shakedown attempt, but either way I'm not impressed.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 05, 2015, 06:41:07 PM
Why are your knees fucked up?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2015, 07:04:14 PM
Oh, right.  Yeah, I tripped.  While carrying all my shit back to the airport.  It was all on my back, I fell forwards, onto concrete.  It kinda hurt.  Still does.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2015, 07:39:20 PM
My bad mood is escalating.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 05, 2015, 10:21:20 PM
Slept in today, woke up to a marvelous confusion and discombobulation of the senses: knocking stuff over on the way to the ablutionary, then somewhat missing my micturary bulls-eye, filling the bialetti pot with unground beans (lovely), and all this only to realize that the car is, still, in need of a jump, and, finally, I may not really care about missing the parade rehearsals.  Todays only going to get
better
.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Sung Low on December 05, 2015, 10:37:47 PM
My right testicle is currently swollen to the dimensions and consistency of a small baked potato.

This is potentially a mood killer...


Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on December 05, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
Evening all.

Could anyone give me a quick catch up of what I've missed / who the current idiot racists are?

The second is somewhat optional, I assume it's still the usual suspects along with anyone new?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2015, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 05, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
Evening all.

Could anyone give me a quick catch up of what I've missed / who the current idiot racists are?

The second is somewhat optional, I assume it's still the usual suspects along with anyone new?

Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 06, 2015, 12:45:33 AM
Resident shit lord reporting in.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 06, 2015, 02:08:34 AM
^worked hard for that title.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 06, 2015, 05:07:28 PM
Last day to study before FInals and my kid has a guitar recital in the middle of the afternoon. Why? Why would they do this?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2015, 05:11:39 PM
My computer company have finally stopped harassing me and have accepted that I paid for everything.  This is a culmination of two weeks of phone calls and threatening emails.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 06, 2015, 05:22:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 06, 2015, 05:11:39 PM
My computer company have finally stopped harassing me and have accepted that I paid for everything.  This is a culmination of two weeks of phone calls and threatening emails.

Jesus. It's like incompetence seeks you out.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
Some men struggle against incompetence, to only achieve an early grave.  Some men flee incompetence, only to have it swallow them whole.  And some men who embrace incompetence, and do not show their frustration.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 06, 2015, 06:23:28 PM
All I can say is that you must have the patience of a goddamn saint.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2015, 06:34:39 PM
I drink a lot and punch things.  It helps.

Not as much as punching the source of my problems, but that has an associated set of problems with it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on December 07, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 05, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on December 04, 2015, 09:13:20 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 04, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
So I learned who wrote the Underdark campaign for D&D 5th. 

Kinser(sp?) and Co. 

Have yet to stop frothing at the mouth.  There's just so much rage now, I can't stop cursing.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

:?

That was the Demogorgon encounter at 3rd level thing, the underdark campaign.  Kinser and Co. are a bunch of guys who made games for 2nd ed D&D players when that went to 3rd.  They made Hackmaster, among other things.

I know most of that, but don't get the rage.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 07, 2015, 03:16:15 PM
Nothing like a cheap bottle of wine and a Christmas card with your name spelt wrong from your boss to make you feel like a valued employee.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 07, 2015, 06:23:47 PM
Some lady in an SUV just almost ran me over while I was crossing the street. I was in the crosswalk, it was my light, and she was turning into the intersection... in fact, she saw me, stopped, and then waited until I was WELL into the street before turning, such that if I hadn't sen her and stopped right then she would have creamed me. I flipped her off while screaming "FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT COCKSUCKER!" and lunged for her passenger window, but I wasn't close enough to give it a bang. The cuntsucking piece of filth made like she was going to park so I angled in that direction, but APPARENTLY SOMETHING MADE HER CHANGE HER MIND because she drove away instead.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 07, 2015, 06:25:11 PM
It's kind of too bad because I was looking forward to scaring the everloving piss out of her entitled suburban twat, but I do feel a little bit better at hopefully making her late for something. Or possibly scared to drive downtown.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 07, 2015, 06:26:22 PM
Are you sure she wasn't trying to kill you?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 07, 2015, 06:28:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 07, 2015, 06:26:22 PM
Are you sure she wasn't trying to kill you?

I'm not totally sure, but if she was she needs to come back here right now and try to finish the job because it's been decades since I kicked somebody's ass and this a perfect week for it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 07, 2015, 06:30:26 PM
In other news, I had my first final this morning and I think it went well. I'm just boning up for the second one, which is at some point later today. I should really figure out when, I suppose.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 07, 2015, 06:36:20 PM
My schedule for the next few days is thus:
Today:
Study for Ecology final
Take Ecology final
Go home and study for Microbiology final

Tomorrow:
Take Microbiology final
Go home and finish thesis prospectus

Wednesday:
Write draft of personal statement
Go to lab meeting, get feedback on personal statement

Thursday:
Revise & submit Peru paper
Take a goddamn deep breath

Friday & Saturday:
Complete and submit grad school applications
Collapse and submit myself to Alty's tender ministrations until recovered.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 07, 2015, 08:32:34 PM
Good luck with that.

I'm at work, for the first time in 9 days.  A bunch of policies have changed.

Naturally, I'm working alone tonight.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2015, 01:47:39 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 07, 2015, 08:32:34 PM
Good luck with that.

I'm at work, for the first time in 9 days.  A bunch of policies have changed.

Naturally, I'm working alone tonight.

THEY RUN A TIGHT SHIP THERE, AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2015, 01:49:33 AM
I'm not doing a very good job of studying for micro because I no longer give a fuck.

That's not true. I care enough to be stressed, but not enough to study very effectively.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 08, 2015, 02:14:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.
Awesome, what are the details?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:15:32 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 08, 2015, 02:14:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.
Awesome, what are the details?

I'm not going to say in public until I'm on the job, on account of random assholes (Never can tell if someone like Tentasticle will come back).

I'll PM you.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 08, 2015, 06:53:32 AM
In an ironic twist, the strain of having a part time job as well as a mental health internship may compromise my mental health. I tailored my work availability around when I didn't have my internship,  but that's now blocking me from having any time to visit my therapist or destress from literally dealing with crazy people all day
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on December 08, 2015, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:15:32 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 08, 2015, 02:14:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.
Awesome, what are the details?

I'm not going to say in public until I'm on the job, on account of random assholes (Never can tell if someone like Tentasticle will come back).

I'll PM you.

Excellent work that lizard.

Glad things are going well man
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 08, 2015, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.

FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 08, 2015, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:15:32 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 08, 2015, 02:14:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.
Awesome, what are the details?

I'm not going to say in public until I'm on the job, on account of random assholes (Never can tell if someone like Tentasticle will come back).

I'll PM you.

Could I have a PM too?  Congratulations.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on December 08, 2015, 04:13:34 PM
I've turned in my gear. Now I just wait on paperwork to finally leave the Army.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 08, 2015, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.

:banana:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on December 08, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
Harvard found diacetyl in 75% of e-cig juice.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/12/popcorn-lung-seen-in-e-cigarette-smokers/
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 10:43:34 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 08, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
Harvard found diacetyl in 75% of e-cig juice.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/12/popcorn-lung-seen-in-e-cigarette-smokers/

This is why I stick to the unflavored stuff.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 08, 2015, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 05, 2015, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 05, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on December 04, 2015, 09:13:20 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 04, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
So I learned who wrote the Underdark campaign for D&D 5th. 

Kinser(sp?) and Co. 

Have yet to stop frothing at the mouth.  There's just so much rage now, I can't stop cursing.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

:?

That was the Demogorgon encounter at 3rd level thing, the underdark campaign.  Kinser and Co. are a bunch of guys who made games for 2nd ed D&D players when that went to 3rd.  They made Hackmaster, among other things.

It's just one of the most powerful demon princes of the Abyss, with a CR number larger than the population of some countries.  What's the big problem?

:crankey:

My DM told me he's the mook of demon princes this edition.  I looked.  It's true.  And we have the opportunity to meet them all.

Another group met some other demon prince at her wedding.  They killed all the guests, and then whoever it was was like "That's cute," and knocked everyone around in one round.  ALSO a 3rd level group. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 08, 2015, 11:15:39 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on December 07, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 05, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on December 04, 2015, 09:13:20 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 04, 2015, 07:47:07 AM
So I learned who wrote the Underdark campaign for D&D 5th. 

Kinser(sp?) and Co. 

Have yet to stop frothing at the mouth.  There's just so much rage now, I can't stop cursing.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

:?

That was the Demogorgon encounter at 3rd level thing, the underdark campaign.  Kinser and Co. are a bunch of guys who made games for 2nd ed D&D players when that went to 3rd.  They made Hackmaster, among other things.

I know most of that, but don't get the rage.

Neither do I really.  It just sort of happens.  It's probably more than the game, the game is just what makes the rage come out.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 08, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 06, 2015, 06:34:39 PM
I drink a lot and punch things.  It helps.


Punching things helps a lot of things, I've found.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 08, 2015, 11:18:09 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 07, 2015, 06:23:47 PM
Some lady in an SUV just almost ran me over while I was crossing the street. I was in the crosswalk, it was my light, and she was turning into the intersection... in fact, she saw me, stopped, and then waited until I was WELL into the street before turning, such that if I hadn't sen her and stopped right then she would have creamed me. I flipped her off while screaming "FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT COCKSUCKER!" and lunged for her passenger window, but I wasn't close enough to give it a bang. The cuntsucking piece of filth made like she was going to park so I angled in that direction, but APPARENTLY SOMETHING MADE HER CHANGE HER MIND because she drove away instead.

Perhaps she was looking for someone to fight, and wanted to start shit?  It sounds reasonable, given what you say here.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 08, 2015, 11:20:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.

:noodledance:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2015, 12:33:23 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 08, 2015, 11:18:09 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 07, 2015, 06:23:47 PM
Some lady in an SUV just almost ran me over while I was crossing the street. I was in the crosswalk, it was my light, and she was turning into the intersection... in fact, she saw me, stopped, and then waited until I was WELL into the street before turning, such that if I hadn't sen her and stopped right then she would have creamed me. I flipped her off while screaming "FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT COCKSUCKER!" and lunged for her passenger window, but I wasn't close enough to give it a bang. The cuntsucking piece of filth made like she was going to park so I angled in that direction, but APPARENTLY SOMETHING MADE HER CHANGE HER MIND because she drove away instead.

Perhaps she was looking for someone to fight, and wanted to start shit?  It sounds reasonable, given what you say here.

People don't really work that way here. Especially fancy suburban ladies in $80k cars who drive away all scared when somebody talks back at their shitty driving.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2015, 12:34:40 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on December 08, 2015, 04:13:34 PM
I've turned in my gear. Now I just wait on paperwork to finally leave the Army.

Congratulations! That's awesome!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2015, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 08, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
Harvard found diacetyl in 75% of e-cig juice.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/12/popcorn-lung-seen-in-e-cigarette-smokers/

QuoteTwo other related, potentially harmful compounds were also found in many of the tested flavors, which included varieties with potential appeal to young people such as cotton candy, "Fruit Squirts," and cupcake.

"Fruit squirts" is what happens to me at the beginning of every summer, before my digestive system adjusts.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 09, 2015, 01:15:07 AM
 :lulz:

Promotion by default.  As of this time next month, out of a team of 8 (positions), only 3 will be filled.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 09, 2015, 03:17:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.

Woot!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 09, 2015, 04:16:03 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.
Glad to hear that Roger. Was hoping you'd land on your feet
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2015, 04:16:33 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 09, 2015, 04:16:03 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
Who has two thumbs and got his dream job?

This guy.
Glad to hear that Roger. Was hoping you'd land on your feet

Thanks.  It's been a rough 6 months.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Aucoq on December 09, 2015, 04:58:19 AM
Congratulations Roger! That's fantastic news!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on December 09, 2015, 05:10:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2015, 10:43:34 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 08, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
Harvard found diacetyl in 75% of e-cig juice.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2015/12/popcorn-lung-seen-in-e-cigarette-smokers/

This is why I stick to the unflavored stuff.

I think I'll ask if they can do that for me next time I go to the vape store. They don't sell it, but I'm pretty sure they mix their own using an unflavored base. The coils will probably last longer, too.

Also, congrats on the new job!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 10, 2015, 07:07:19 AM
Despite having no choice over it, in some ways I enjoy not being invited to the office Xmas party.  Reason 1) the temptation to actually kill my co-workers will not be sorely tested by being around them and alcohol.  Reason 2) I get to see quite a few of my co-workers come back drunk.  And even if they pretend not to remember, they will know that I know how pathetically drunk they were. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 11, 2015, 12:07:44 AM
Done for the term! So damn happy to be done. Also so damn happy to have a job that insists on paying me for my full hours whether there was anything for me to do or not. "Oh, you read websites about writing personal statements? We'll pay you for that."

Now I just have to edit my personal statement and add a few details to my thesis prospectus, and I can fuck off for a few weeks until the madness starts up again in January.

I can basically spend the rest of the day shopping for a New Years Eve party dress (I'm going for purple, lots of cleavage), reading, and making lasagna. I love not being stressed out by looming deadlines.

Maybe I should buy car parts. That might be a good idea, too.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on December 11, 2015, 03:42:33 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 11, 2015, 12:07:44 AM
Done for the term! So damn happy to be done. Also so damn happy to have a job that insists on paying me for my full hours whether there was anything for me to do or not. "Oh, you read websites about writing personal statements? We'll pay you for that."

Now I just have to edit my personal statement and add a few details to my thesis prospectus, and I can fuck off for a few weeks until the madness starts up again in January.

I can basically spend the rest of the day shopping for a New Years Eve party dress (I'm going for purple, lots of cleavage), reading, and making lasagna. I love not being stressed out by looming deadlines.

Maybe I should buy car parts. That might be a good idea, too.

Awesome.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on December 11, 2015, 04:34:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.

Holy shit.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:48:27 AM
Quote from: President Television on December 11, 2015, 04:34:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.

Holy shit.

22 domes, a solar telescope (which is about the size of a naval destroyer, and is mostly underground), and 2 radio telescopes.

I am the king of the Igors.  Look upon me and despair.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 11, 2015, 05:09:46 AM
that sounds like some kind of Nerd nirvana. A Nerdvana, if you will.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 05:11:31 AM
Quote from: Chelagoras The Boulder on December 11, 2015, 05:09:46 AM
that sounds like some kind of Nerd nirvana. A Nerdvana, if you will.

It is.  My lead tech told me he's been there 38 years and he's still not over it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: East Coast Hustle on December 11, 2015, 06:25:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.


Hot damn, man. That sounds really really awesome. I'm wicked happy for you. About 60% completely altruistically, and about 40% because it gives me hope that I might be similarly fortunate again someday.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 11, 2015, 12:06:26 PM
Do you need test subjects?  I can provide test subjects.

In other news: knee still busted (it was improving....until I put all my weight on it to get into bed) and Xmas shopping is 66% complete.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: EK WAFFLR on December 11, 2015, 12:15:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.

Holy fuck! I'm glad for you, man!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Aucoq on December 11, 2015, 01:04:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.

That sounds fantastic. Congratulations again. That's wonderful.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 11, 2015, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.

You deserve it, Holy Man.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on December 11, 2015, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.

That sounds absolutely fantastic. Congratulations!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 11, 2015, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 11, 2015, 12:06:26 PM
Do you need test subjects?  I can provide test subjects.

In other news: knee still busted (it was improving....until I put all my weight on it to get into bed) and Xmas shopping is 66% complete.

Are you still on that diet? If so and you have tissue damage you might do well to suspend it temporarily or it could degenerate further.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 11, 2015, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 11, 2015, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 11, 2015, 12:06:26 PM
Do you need test subjects?  I can provide test subjects.

In other news: knee still busted (it was improving....until I put all my weight on it to get into bed) and Xmas shopping is 66% complete.

Are you still on that diet? If so and you have tissue damage you might do well to suspend it temporarily or it could degenerate further.

Oh I did temprorarily.  It is improving, it was just a really nasty fall, followed by a lot of walking which probably did further damage.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:12:46 PM
Thanks, guys.   :)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 11, 2015, 12:06:26 PM
Do you need test subjects?  I can provide test subjects.

Well, not so much, but we don't have any guardrails and it's winter up there.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 11, 2015, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 11, 2015, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 11, 2015, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 11, 2015, 12:06:26 PM
Do you need test subjects?  I can provide test subjects.

In other news: knee still busted (it was improving....until I put all my weight on it to get into bed) and Xmas shopping is 66% complete.

Are you still on that diet? If so and you have tissue damage you might do well to suspend it temporarily or it could degenerate further.

Oh I did temprorarily.  It is improving, it was just a really nasty fall, followed by a lot of walking which probably did further damage.

Probably, but if it can still bear your full weight and has full range of motion you may not need a doctor, but it will need dietary support and rest for sure. I hope for the best.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 11, 2015, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 11, 2015, 12:06:26 PM
Do you need test subjects?  I can provide test subjects.

In other news: knee still busted (it was improving....until I put all my weight on it to get into bed) and Xmas shopping is 66% complete.

That sucks ass. Do you have a brace? Even a cheap drugstore one might help keep it stable and protected.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 11, 2015, 07:21:41 PM
I have a lunch date with my ex in half an hour and totally don't feel like leaving the house. Not because I don't want to see him and catch up on how he's doing, because I do like him and he's fun to hang out with, but because it's cold outside and I just want to drink tea and browse acreage and daydream about buying 80 acres and a shipping container and hunting boar in the high desert with Alty.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on December 11, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
Just finished two days of local hacker convention. Very sleep. Grats to Nigel and Roger!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: Pæs on December 11, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
Just finished two days of local hacker convention. Very sleep. Grats to Nigel and Roger!

That sounds fun. An old friend of mine goes to those every year and it always seems like a super good time!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 02:25:06 AM
Guess which nihilistic asshole has a girlfriend now?

HINT: it's me.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 12, 2015, 04:27:20 AM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 02:25:06 AM
Guess which nihilistic asshole has a girlfriend now?

HINT: it's me.

Is she also a nihilistic asshole or should I not ready the popcorn?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on December 12, 2015, 04:40:42 AM
Quote from: Pæs on December 11, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
Just finished two days of local hacker convention. Very sleep. Grats to Nigel and Roger!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU)

Somewhat relevant.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2015, 05:09:27 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on December 12, 2015, 04:40:42 AM
Quote from: Pæs on December 11, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
Just finished two days of local hacker convention. Very sleep. Grats to Nigel and Roger!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU)

Somewhat relevant.

Why's it gotta be gooey?  It's exactly this sort of slovenly work practices that are bringing America down.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 09:09:34 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 12, 2015, 04:27:20 AM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 02:25:06 AM
Guess which nihilistic asshole has a girlfriend now?

HINT: it's me.

Is she also a nihilistic asshole or should I not ready the popcorn?

She's a double sided coin of asshole buisness lady. And a qt3.14 sub. Also she's Christian.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 12, 2015, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 11, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
So, first day on the job, a mile and half up in the air.  Talking with engineers about robots the size of sewing needles that adjust fiberoptic cables for trapping images of entire galaxies, to measure their velocity with respect to one another.  The engineers know their job and they assume I'm educated on everything unless I tell them differently, in which case they patiently explain.

My boss is a fairly brilliant scientist who enjoys the ins and outs of DOE/NASA/NSF bureaucratic wrangling.  His boss is the smartest woman I've ever met, who shares my enthusiasm for the visitor program, for getting people up the mountain to look at other stars and how exoplanets are inferred from a star's wobble, and will geek out on a moment's notice, which is fucking awesome.

My crew are all professionals who genuinely like each other, and most of them seem to have taken a shine to me.

I am in charge of - among many other things - life support.  LIFE SUPPORT.  Scotty, my scabby arse!

I changed my mind.  There is a heaven.

Ho-ho-hoooooly shit man. That's the coolest shit I've heard in a long time, hands down.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2015, 01:53:01 AM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 02:25:06 AM
Guess which nihilistic asshole has a girlfriend now?

HINT: it's me.

Congratulations, and good luck.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 13, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 09:09:34 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 12, 2015, 04:27:20 AM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 02:25:06 AM
Guess which nihilistic asshole has a girlfriend now?

HINT: it's me.

Is she also a nihilistic asshole or should I not ready the popcorn?

She's a double sided coin of asshole buisness lady. And a qt3.14 sub. Also she's Christian.

Not so sure what a qt3.14 sub is, but the rest should be interesting. If you find out she's "pimping for Jesus" just go with it until you can ask the hard questions in biblestudy.

I hope things work out well for you, but not sure it's for good reasons.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on December 13, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 13, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 09:09:34 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 12, 2015, 04:27:20 AM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2015, 02:25:06 AM
Guess which nihilistic asshole has a girlfriend now?

HINT: it's me.

Is she also a nihilistic asshole or should I not ready the popcorn?

She's a double sided coin of asshole buisness lady. And a qt3.14 sub. Also she's Christian.

Not so sure what a qt3.14 sub is, but the rest should be interesting. If you find out she's "pimping for Jesus" just go with it until you can ask the hard questions in biblestudy.

I hope things work out well for you, but not sure it's for good reasons.

qt 3.14 means "cutie pie".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 13, 2015, 09:15:09 PM
So bored at work.  Currently debating with my co-worker the merit of taking 4 or 5 hour breaks.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2015, 10:29:14 PM
Finished my grad school application. Waiting for letters of recommendation. Accidentally sent a reminder to a professor without changing the name on it to his, embarrassment. Oh god. Hopefully he will understand.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on December 14, 2015, 02:40:52 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2015, 10:29:14 PM
Finished my grad school application. Waiting for letters of recommendation. Accidentally sent a reminder to a professor without changing the name on it to his, embarrassment. Oh god. Hopefully he will understand.

Mortifying. That was one of fears when I sent out my reminders last week.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 14, 2015, 02:52:01 AM
No, mortifying is accidentally sending your professor nudes. Getting their name wrong in an email is a minor mistake.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 14, 2015, 04:03:47 AM
with the onset of /trash/ discordnism can now have a home on 4chan.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2015, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 14, 2015, 04:03:47 AM
with the onset of /trash/ discordnism can now have a home on 4chan.

Have fun with that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 15, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 14, 2015, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 14, 2015, 04:03:47 AM
with the onset of /trash/ discordnism can now have a home on 4chan.

Have fun with that.

It's basically just people checking out the holy texts and giving their opinions. Any recommendations on what to recomend?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
The four meter dome was frozen in place today.  Simple stuff, really.  Rig up a few come-alongs, apply a couple of thousands of foot pounds of force, THEN turn the motors on.  Easy.  Of course, our vehicles outside got buried by the tons of snow and ice that fell off the dome, but you can't have everything.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on December 15, 2015, 01:19:39 AM
There are jobs that I don't particularly want for any reason other than they pay more. 

I can't really say why else I want said job, just that I'd be better than the idiot that is currently there.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 15, 2015, 04:25:51 AM
Since I'll be working alone come January 6th, I'm spending a thrilling time on the "totally not self-defense weapons, just novelty items" section of Amazon.

I wonder if I can bill the company for a camping knife and tungsten steel tactical pen?  It is a work related expense...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on December 15, 2015, 10:33:19 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 15, 2015, 04:25:51 AM
tungsten steel tactical pen

For when the time comes to find out which really is mightier.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 15, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
The four meter dome was frozen in place today.  Simple stuff, really.  Rig up a few come-alongs, apply a couple of thousands of foot pounds of force, THEN turn the motors on.  Easy.  Of course, our vehicles outside got buried by the tons of snow and ice that fell off the dome, but you can't have everything.

Where did you move Tuscon to now?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 15, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: Xaz on December 15, 2015, 10:33:19 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 15, 2015, 04:25:51 AM
tungsten steel tactical pen

For when the time comes to find out which really is mightier.

Fortunately, there has been a lack of sword based crime in the area, so I should be good.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 15, 2015, 07:54:12 PM
I am really, really digging being on break. This weekend was GREAT, and today is my first day with no tasks on my to-do list (other than submit my time sheet, which is just clicking a button).

Just relaxing and puttering around and making plans for the house is something I haven't done since I have no idea when. It's marvelous. I had a moment of stress when I realized that I paid my credit cards twice (and had a third payment scheduled for next week) but then I realized that I can just buy my shit with the credit cards and it comes out even.

I think today I might read a book and do some laundry.

FUCK YEAH, BREAK!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 15, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
The four meter dome was frozen in place today.  Simple stuff, really.  Rig up a few come-alongs, apply a couple of thousands of foot pounds of force, THEN turn the motors on.  Easy.  Of course, our vehicles outside got buried by the tons of snow and ice that fell off the dome, but you can't have everything.

Where did you move Tuscon to now?

I run facilities at the Kitt Peak Observatory Complex.  It's Science Heaven, and you can freeze to death in the desert sun (20F today, with 80 MPH winds, still got a bit of sunburn).

Today, we had many cold weather breakdowns, but I am Maintenance Jesus, and me and my 15 Apostles got things going at least well enough to maintain operations for the night.  But no elevators, the astronomers can use the exercise.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 16, 2015, 03:27:43 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 15, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
The four meter dome was frozen in place today.  Simple stuff, really.  Rig up a few come-alongs, apply a couple of thousands of foot pounds of force, THEN turn the motors on.  Easy.  Of course, our vehicles outside got buried by the tons of snow and ice that fell off the dome, but you can't have everything.

Where did you move Tuscon to now?

I run facilities at the Kitt Peak Observatory Complex.  It's Science Heaven, and you can freeze to death in the desert sun (20F today, with 80 MPH winds, still got a bit of sunburn).

Today, we had many cold weather breakdowns, but I am Maintenance Jesus, and me and my 15 Apostles got things going at least well enough to maintain operations for the night.  But no elevators, the astronomers can use the exercise.

Sounds like an amazing job, but it also sounds like Arizona has the worst climate ever.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 16, 2015, 04:19:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 15, 2015, 07:54:12 PM
I am really, really digging being on break. This weekend was GREAT, and today is my first day with no tasks on my to-do list (other than submit my time sheet, which is just clicking a button).

Just relaxing and puttering around and making plans for the house is something I haven't done since I have no idea when. It's marvelous. I had a moment of stress when I realized that I paid my credit cards twice (and had a third payment scheduled for next week) but then I realized that I can just buy my shit with the credit cards and it comes out even.

I think today I might read a book and do some laundry.

FUCK YEAH, BREAK!

You of all people deserve to enjoy a break!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 16, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Roger, it occurs to me that you must have a very interesting commute. Or do you, like, stay onsite for a few days at a time?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 16, 2015, 09:37:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 15, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
The four meter dome was frozen in place today.  Simple stuff, really.  Rig up a few come-alongs, apply a couple of thousands of foot pounds of force, THEN turn the motors on.  Easy.  Of course, our vehicles outside got buried by the tons of snow and ice that fell off the dome, but you can't have everything.

Where did you move Tuscon to now?

I run facilities at the Kitt Peak Observatory Complex.  It's Science Heaven, and you can freeze to death in the desert sun (20F today, with 80 MPH winds, still got a bit of sunburn).

Today, we had many cold weather breakdowns, but I am Maintenance Jesus, and me and my 15 Apostles got things going at least well enough to maintain operations for the night.  But no elevators, the astronomers can use the exercise.

Your desert should not be colder than my New England coastal town...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 16, 2015, 09:42:39 PM
4chan community is going well. Thread has been up for a few days and there's already a few people memebombing. It's cute.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on December 16, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 16, 2015, 09:42:39 PM
4chan community is going well. Thread has been up for a few days and there's already a few people memebombing. It's cute.

That actually is kinda cute.

..It should be 'affecting' rather than 'effecting' in the OP though.  :wink:
And a pastebin of links would be good if /discg/ lasts more than one iteration.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 17, 2015, 03:34:09 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on December 16, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Roger, it occurs to me that you must have a very interesting commute. Or do you, like, stay onsite for a few days at a time?

20 minute drive to the university, get on shuttle, fall asleep for an hour and a half, and I'm at work.  Magic.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 17, 2015, 03:36:13 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 16, 2015, 09:37:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 15, 2015, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2015, 01:05:06 AM
The four meter dome was frozen in place today.  Simple stuff, really.  Rig up a few come-alongs, apply a couple of thousands of foot pounds of force, THEN turn the motors on.  Easy.  Of course, our vehicles outside got buried by the tons of snow and ice that fell off the dome, but you can't have everything.

Where did you move Tuscon to now?

I run facilities at the Kitt Peak Observatory Complex.  It's Science Heaven, and you can freeze to death in the desert sun (20F today, with 80 MPH winds, still got a bit of sunburn).

Today, we had many cold weather breakdowns, but I am Maintenance Jesus, and me and my 15 Apostles got things going at least well enough to maintain operations for the night.  But no elevators, the astronomers can use the exercise.

Your desert should not be colder than my New England coastal town...

Today I sat on a 6" wide icy gantry at the top of the solar telescope, which extends over the side of the mountain, working on a storm-damaged robot.  Between my feet, I could see the ground.  Between me and the ground, there were clouds.  It was 18F.

I later calculated that if I fell, it would take 12 seconds for me to reach the ground.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on December 17, 2015, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: Meunster on December 16, 2015, 09:42:39 PM
4chan community is going well. Thread has been up for a few days and there's already a few people memebombing. It's cute.

Link?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Brother Mythos on December 17, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: Faust on December 17, 2015, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: Meunster on December 16, 2015, 09:42:39 PM
4chan community is going well. Thread has been up for a few days and there's already a few people memebombing. It's cute.

Link?

http://boards.4chan.org/trash/thread/553476/discordianism-general
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on December 17, 2015, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 15, 2015, 04:25:51 AM
Since I'll be working alone come January 6th, I'm spending a thrilling time on the "totally not self-defense weapons, just novelty items" section of Amazon.

I wonder if I can bill the company for a camping knife and tungsten steel tactical pen?  It is a work related expense...

You Sir!

Worried about carrying a knife in London?

Know that a pen will get lost stolen in minutes?

Still need the ability to BEAT A MOTHERFUCKER if required?


Then you need to step into times where weaponry was a little more subtle. Like this:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/ra6bz8.jpg)

Simple, easily disposable and as effective as you'd like it to be.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 17, 2015, 09:36:40 PM
There's a durracell slogan joke in there somewhere
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
So, the Happy Families bubble burst today, and I am pleased to report that my employees are actually just as fucked up as everyone else.

Most of them are going on vacation next Monday, and they suddenly all decided they had to get "their side of the story" in with the new boss.  But the new boss doesn't care.  Half of them are cheating on their spouses with coworkers.  I don't care.  The other half are overly concerned about said cheating.  This also doesn't register as important.  I have seen where this goes, and it's a horrible snarl of twisted priorities, but I don't give a shit.

It's really this simple.  We fix the domes.  We get the brain-eating amoebas out of the water.  We clean up after semifunctional scientists and ancient docents.  We don't run tourists over.  It's not calculus.

I am not bitching, mind you.  I am actually quite relieved, as things seemed just a little too good to be true, and now it's way more human.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:41:33 AM
It also occurs to me that the last set of slanders I did, where people were inside or outside of the dome, was just more prophecy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on December 18, 2015, 05:31:33 AM
In a facebook group where we yammer on about religion, and this one guy is seriously obsessed in an unhealthy way about muslims.  Today he used the line "I keep an open mind I'm a scientist" about a biblical prophecy.

I was intrigued, what science?  I expected an engineer of some sort, for some reason people that claim science while spouting religion are always engineers.

He's the president of his own company.  Apparently he makes a vaping device.  Interesting.

Ph.D.  University of Calgary, Electrical Engineering.  Pow!

Science!


Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on December 18, 2015, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
So, the Happy Families bubble burst today, and I am pleased to report that my employees are actually just as fucked up as everyone else.

Most of them are going on vacation next Monday, and they suddenly all decided they had to get "their side of the story" in with the new boss.  But the new boss doesn't care.  Half of them are cheating on their spouses with coworkers.  I don't care.  The other half are overly concerned about said cheating.  This also doesn't register as important.  I have seen where this goes, and it's a horrible snarl of twisted priorities, but I don't give a shit.

It's really this simple.  We fix the domes.  We get the brain-eating amoebas out of the water.  We clean up after semifunctional scientists and ancient docents.  We don't run tourists over.  It's not calculus.

I am not bitching, mind you.  I am actually quite relieved, as things seemed just a little too good to be true, and now it's way more human.

Hank shuffled into the room. This was an office, once. Long ago, before the Roger times came. Hank remembered an office here some time last month. Now it was a labyrinth of manuals and schematics. Hank couldn't believe there was anywhere enough equipment to justify this much paper. Not in the complex. Not in the state.

He had been hesitant to come in, really. Davis had come in with a welcome and a gift basket earlier in the day and nobody had seen him since. He'd probably gone home. Must have gone home. But it didn't sit right. No, Hank hadn't wanted to come in but he felt it was morally imperative that the new boss know the score.

The room seemed empty. Gradually accepting that Roger wasn't in, Hank let his attention drift to the annotated schematics covering the floors and walls and found that he had trouble parsing them. He narrowed his eyes and moved nearer a document with renewed focus. To his surprise, the content was indecipherable. It was positively arcane and certainly nothing related to any of the equipment he'd ever seen. Paralysed by puzzlement as he was, Hank didn't see Roger emerge from a stack of books until he was upon him, pinning the puzzled engineer to the wall and disturbing the new wallpaper, sending robot pin-ups drifting to the floor.

"What is it, man? Is it the domes?"

Hank blinked and stammered, "I... I... no? What? No. The domes are..." He committed to pushing Roger from him indignantly and straightening his clothes but found this commitment didn't translate into anywhere near enough force to make the man budge. Roger's face advanced upon him and Hank became aware that the new boss was wearing a jeweller's monocle, giving an eerie, inquisitive edge to his stare.

"The domes are..? You were saying about the domes?"

Hank stared in terror. "No, I... well, that is. I thought you should know about what's going on between Laura and James and Karen." He had meant to be more tactful, but circumstances had not allowed for that. Roger released him and turned away dismissively, appearing to immediately lose interest. He took a couple of steps away before pausing and looking back "And you're certain there's nothing about the domes?" The new boss's glare was chilling. "You certainly wouldn't keep anything from me if it were about the domes?"

Hank shook his head desperately. Roger glared a moment longer then nodded his acceptance. "Very well. Back to work. There's no place like dome." His lips twitched a brief smile at the last sentence. Roger gestured to his desk, upon which a gift basket sat. "Help yourself to a little treat on your way out, for your excellent work."

Hank's blood ran cold. Not at the sight of the gift basket, but at the only other non-paper item atop the desk.

Holding down the corner of a diagram of the facility, functioning as a paperweight, were Davis's car keys.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 18, 2015, 10:04:52 AM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on December 18, 2015, 10:14:21 AM
So yesterday I visited the University of Limerick where some dudes in a basement (They have a wind tunnel! (I didn't get to play with it.)) are prototyping fibre-reinforced plastic manhole covers.

The reason I was there is that I work for the company who manufactures the liquid resin component that is combined with the glass to eventually become a solid object. I work in the Technical Service department which basically means I try to solve customer's problems if and when they encounter them.

Upon landing in Shannon (home to the world's first Duty Free!) and being picked up by the local sales manager he warned me that the timescales of academia may not be quite as fast as I have become used to in the world of work. No matter, I thought - our resin only takes half an hour to cure and we've got all day...

We made one part exactly how they'd been making all the others. Unsurprisingly it displayed the same problem. Then it was time for lunch and a walk around campus for some reason.

By the time we had returned to the lab, finished discussing the new and (hopefully) improved reinforcement stack, re-discussed it with the owner of the company sponsoring the research, who had just arrived, and loaded it in the mould it was too late to make a second part.

Then I flew home.

I will find out today whether my improvements have improved things.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on December 18, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Awesome, Is that 3d printed resin, or a cast component?

Did you get to walk around the campus much? It's been a few years since I've gotten to visit UL but I loved walking around there.

To be honest getting that much done in a day in academia here is surprising enough.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on December 18, 2015, 12:11:55 PM
It's cast thermoset resin - the liquid (polyester based) resin is initiated with a peroxide and injected into the mould cavity under pressure (hence the bolts).

The campus was nice - reminded me of Leeds and a lot of other universities built in the ~70s with those metal+glass buildings. The river that goes through campus was heavily flooded so it was fun going on the bridge and watching it rushing underneath.

It was more productive than my last trip to Ireland where I arrived at the customer to find out they'd got a mould made out of wood by one of their workers who said he knew what he was doing. He didn't.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 18, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: Pæs on December 18, 2015, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
So, the Happy Families bubble burst today, and I am pleased to report that my employees are actually just as fucked up as everyone else.

Most of them are going on vacation next Monday, and they suddenly all decided they had to get "their side of the story" in with the new boss.  But the new boss doesn't care.  Half of them are cheating on their spouses with coworkers.  I don't care.  The other half are overly concerned about said cheating.  This also doesn't register as important.  I have seen where this goes, and it's a horrible snarl of twisted priorities, but I don't give a shit.

It's really this simple.  We fix the domes.  We get the brain-eating amoebas out of the water.  We clean up after semifunctional scientists and ancient docents.  We don't run tourists over.  It's not calculus.

I am not bitching, mind you.  I am actually quite relieved, as things seemed just a little too good to be true, and now it's way more human.

Hank shuffled into the room. This was an office, once. Long ago, before the Roger times came. Hank remembered an office here some time last month. Now it was a labyrinth of manuals and schematics. Hank couldn't believe there was anywhere enough equipment to justify this much paper. Not in the complex. Not in the state.

He had been hesitant to come in, really. Davis had come in with a welcome and a gift basket earlier in the day and nobody had seen him since. He'd probably gone home. Must have gone home. But it didn't sit right. No, Hank hadn't wanted to come in but he felt it was morally imperative that the new boss know the score.

The room seemed empty. Gradually accepting that Roger wasn't in, Hank let his attention drift to the annotated schematics covering the floors and walls and found that he had trouble parsing them. He narrowed his eyes and moved nearer a document with renewed focus. To his surprise, the content was indecipherable. It was positively arcane and certainly nothing related to any of the equipment he'd ever seen. Paralysed by puzzlement as he was, Hank didn't see Roger emerge from a stack of books until he was upon him, pinning the puzzled engineer to the wall and disturbing the new wallpaper, sending robot pin-ups drifting to the floor.

"What is it, man? Is it the domes?"

Hank blinked and stammered, "I... I... no? What? No. The domes are..." He committed to pushing Roger from him indignantly and straightening his clothes but found this commitment didn't translate into anywhere near enough force to make the man budge. Roger's face advanced upon him and Hank became aware that the new boss was wearing a jeweller's monocle, giving an eerie, inquisitive edge to his stare.

"The domes are..? You were saying about the domes?"

Hank stared in terror. "No, I... well, that is. I thought you should know about what's going on between Laura and James and Karen." He had meant to be more tactful, but circumstances had not allowed for that. Roger released him and turned away dismissively, appearing to immediately lose interest. He took a couple of steps away before pausing and looking back "And you're certain there's nothing about the domes?" The new boss's glare was chilling. "You certainly wouldn't keep anything from me if it were about the domes?"

Hank shook his head desperately. Roger glared a moment longer then nodded his acceptance. "Very well. Back to work. There's no place like dome." His lips twitched a brief smile at the last sentence. Roger gestured to his desk, upon which a gift basket sat. "Help yourself to a little treat on your way out, for your excellent work."

Hank's blood ran cold. Not at the sight of the gift basket, but at the only other non-paper item atop the desk.

Holding down the corner of a diagram of the facility, functioning as a paperweight, were Davis's car keys.

:potd:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on December 18, 2015, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: Pæs on December 18, 2015, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
So, the Happy Families bubble burst today, and I am pleased to report that my employees are actually just as fucked up as everyone else.

Most of them are going on vacation next Monday, and they suddenly all decided they had to get "their side of the story" in with the new boss.  But the new boss doesn't care.  Half of them are cheating on their spouses with coworkers.  I don't care.  The other half are overly concerned about said cheating.  This also doesn't register as important.  I have seen where this goes, and it's a horrible snarl of twisted priorities, but I don't give a shit.

It's really this simple.  We fix the domes.  We get the brain-eating amoebas out of the water.  We clean up after semifunctional scientists and ancient docents.  We don't run tourists over.  It's not calculus.

I am not bitching, mind you.  I am actually quite relieved, as things seemed just a little too good to be true, and now it's way more human.

Hank shuffled into the room. This was an office, once. Long ago, before the Roger times came. Hank remembered an office here some time last month. Now it was a labyrinth of manuals and schematics. Hank couldn't believe there was anywhere enough equipment to justify this much paper. Not in the complex. Not in the state.

He had been hesitant to come in, really. Davis had come in with a welcome and a gift basket earlier in the day and nobody had seen him since. He'd probably gone home. Must have gone home. But it didn't sit right. No, Hank hadn't wanted to come in but he felt it was morally imperative that the new boss know the score.

The room seemed empty. Gradually accepting that Roger wasn't in, Hank let his attention drift to the annotated schematics covering the floors and walls and found that he had trouble parsing them. He narrowed his eyes and moved nearer a document with renewed focus. To his surprise, the content was indecipherable. It was positively arcane and certainly nothing related to any of the equipment he'd ever seen. Paralysed by puzzlement as he was, Hank didn't see Roger emerge from a stack of books until he was upon him, pinning the puzzled engineer to the wall and disturbing the new wallpaper, sending robot pin-ups drifting to the floor.

"What is it, man? Is it the domes?"

Hank blinked and stammered, "I... I... no? What? No. The domes are..." He committed to pushing Roger from him indignantly and straightening his clothes but found this commitment didn't translate into anywhere near enough force to make the man budge. Roger's face advanced upon him and Hank became aware that the new boss was wearing a jeweller's monocle, giving an eerie, inquisitive edge to his stare.

"The domes are..? You were saying about the domes?"

Hank stared in terror. "No, I... well, that is. I thought you should know about what's going on between Laura and James and Karen." He had meant to be more tactful, but circumstances had not allowed for that. Roger released him and turned away dismissively, appearing to immediately lose interest. He took a couple of steps away before pausing and looking back "And you're certain there's nothing about the domes?" The new boss's glare was chilling. "You certainly wouldn't keep anything from me if it were about the domes?"

Hank shook his head desperately. Roger glared a moment longer then nodded his acceptance. "Very well. Back to work. There's no place like dome." His lips twitched a brief smile at the last sentence. Roger gestured to his desk, upon which a gift basket sat. "Help yourself to a little treat on your way out, for your excellent work."

Hank's blood ran cold. Not at the sight of the gift basket, but at the only other non-paper item atop the desk.

Holding down the corner of a diagram of the facility, functioning as a paperweight, were Davis's car keys.

:lulz: :mittens:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 18, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 18, 2015, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 17, 2015, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 15, 2015, 04:25:51 AM
Since I'll be working alone come January 6th, I'm spending a thrilling time on the "totally not self-defense weapons, just novelty items" section of Amazon.

I wonder if I can bill the company for a camping knife and tungsten steel tactical pen?  It is a work related expense...

You Sir!

Worried about carrying a knife in London?

Know that a pen will get lost stolen in minutes?

Still need the ability to BEAT A MOTHERFUCKER if required?


Then you need to step into times where weaponry was a little more subtle. Like this:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/ra6bz8.jpg)

Simple, easily disposable and as effective as you'd like it to be.

Yes, this. My recommendation is a quality silk sock and wet it if possible. Not only is it classy, but effective flailing is all about tensile strength! This actually comes up in one of my unwritten Wizard tales.

I really wish the act of writing came more easily to me. For those interested I'm going to try to get more of "The Assault on Christmas" out this weekend.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on December 18, 2015, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: Pæs on December 18, 2015, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
So, the Happy Families bubble burst today, and I am pleased to report that my employees are actually just as fucked up as everyone else.

Most of them are going on vacation next Monday, and they suddenly all decided they had to get "their side of the story" in with the new boss.  But the new boss doesn't care.  Half of them are cheating on their spouses with coworkers.  I don't care.  The other half are overly concerned about said cheating.  This also doesn't register as important.  I have seen where this goes, and it's a horrible snarl of twisted priorities, but I don't give a shit.

It's really this simple.  We fix the domes.  We get the brain-eating amoebas out of the water.  We clean up after semifunctional scientists and ancient docents.  We don't run tourists over.  It's not calculus.

I am not bitching, mind you.  I am actually quite relieved, as things seemed just a little too good to be true, and now it's way more human.

Hank shuffled into the room. This was an office, once. Long ago, before the Roger times came. Hank remembered an office here some time last month. Now it was a labyrinth of manuals and schematics. Hank couldn't believe there was anywhere enough equipment to justify this much paper. Not in the complex. Not in the state.

He had been hesitant to come in, really. Davis had come in with a welcome and a gift basket earlier in the day and nobody had seen him since. He'd probably gone home. Must have gone home. But it didn't sit right. No, Hank hadn't wanted to come in but he felt it was morally imperative that the new boss know the score.

The room seemed empty. Gradually accepting that Roger wasn't in, Hank let his attention drift to the annotated schematics covering the floors and walls and found that he had trouble parsing them. He narrowed his eyes and moved nearer a document with renewed focus. To his surprise, the content was indecipherable. It was positively arcane and certainly nothing related to any of the equipment he'd ever seen. Paralysed by puzzlement as he was, Hank didn't see Roger emerge from a stack of books until he was upon him, pinning the puzzled engineer to the wall and disturbing the new wallpaper, sending robot pin-ups drifting to the floor.

"What is it, man? Is it the domes?"

Hank blinked and stammered, "I... I... no? What? No. The domes are..." He committed to pushing Roger from him indignantly and straightening his clothes but found this commitment didn't translate into anywhere near enough force to make the man budge. Roger's face advanced upon him and Hank became aware that the new boss was wearing a jeweller's monocle, giving an eerie, inquisitive edge to his stare.

"The domes are..? You were saying about the domes?"

Hank stared in terror. "No, I... well, that is. I thought you should know about what's going on between Laura and James and Karen." He had meant to be more tactful, but circumstances had not allowed for that. Roger released him and turned away dismissively, appearing to immediately lose interest. He took a couple of steps away before pausing and looking back "And you're certain there's nothing about the domes?" The new boss's glare was chilling. "You certainly wouldn't keep anything from me if it were about the domes?"

Hank shook his head desperately. Roger glared a moment longer then nodded his acceptance. "Very well. Back to work. There's no place like dome." His lips twitched a brief smile at the last sentence. Roger gestured to his desk, upon which a gift basket sat. "Help yourself to a little treat on your way out, for your excellent work."

Hank's blood ran cold. Not at the sight of the gift basket, but at the only other non-paper item atop the desk.

Holding down the corner of a diagram of the facility, functioning as a paperweight, were Davis's car keys.

SLOW DOWN... IN THE DOME ZONE...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Aucoq on December 18, 2015, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: Pæs on December 18, 2015, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
So, the Happy Families bubble burst today, and I am pleased to report that my employees are actually just as fucked up as everyone else.

Most of them are going on vacation next Monday, and they suddenly all decided they had to get "their side of the story" in with the new boss.  But the new boss doesn't care.  Half of them are cheating on their spouses with coworkers.  I don't care.  The other half are overly concerned about said cheating.  This also doesn't register as important.  I have seen where this goes, and it's a horrible snarl of twisted priorities, but I don't give a shit.

It's really this simple.  We fix the domes.  We get the brain-eating amoebas out of the water.  We clean up after semifunctional scientists and ancient docents.  We don't run tourists over.  It's not calculus.

I am not bitching, mind you.  I am actually quite relieved, as things seemed just a little too good to be true, and now it's way more human.

Hank shuffled into the room. This was an office, once. Long ago, before the Roger times came. Hank remembered an office here some time last month. Now it was a labyrinth of manuals and schematics. Hank couldn't believe there was anywhere enough equipment to justify this much paper. Not in the complex. Not in the state.

He had been hesitant to come in, really. Davis had come in with a welcome and a gift basket earlier in the day and nobody had seen him since. He'd probably gone home. Must have gone home. But it didn't sit right. No, Hank hadn't wanted to come in but he felt it was morally imperative that the new boss know the score.

The room seemed empty. Gradually accepting that Roger wasn't in, Hank let his attention drift to the annotated schematics covering the floors and walls and found that he had trouble parsing them. He narrowed his eyes and moved nearer a document with renewed focus. To his surprise, the content was indecipherable. It was positively arcane and certainly nothing related to any of the equipment he'd ever seen. Paralysed by puzzlement as he was, Hank didn't see Roger emerge from a stack of books until he was upon him, pinning the puzzled engineer to the wall and disturbing the new wallpaper, sending robot pin-ups drifting to the floor.

"What is it, man? Is it the domes?"

Hank blinked and stammered, "I... I... no? What? No. The domes are..." He committed to pushing Roger from him indignantly and straightening his clothes but found this commitment didn't translate into anywhere near enough force to make the man budge. Roger's face advanced upon him and Hank became aware that the new boss was wearing a jeweller's monocle, giving an eerie, inquisitive edge to his stare.

"The domes are..? You were saying about the domes?"

Hank stared in terror. "No, I... well, that is. I thought you should know about what's going on between Laura and James and Karen." He had meant to be more tactful, but circumstances had not allowed for that. Roger released him and turned away dismissively, appearing to immediately lose interest. He took a couple of steps away before pausing and looking back "And you're certain there's nothing about the domes?" The new boss's glare was chilling. "You certainly wouldn't keep anything from me if it were about the domes?"

Hank shook his head desperately. Roger glared a moment longer then nodded his acceptance. "Very well. Back to work. There's no place like dome." His lips twitched a brief smile at the last sentence. Roger gestured to his desk, upon which a gift basket sat. "Help yourself to a little treat on your way out, for your excellent work."

Hank's blood ran cold. Not at the sight of the gift basket, but at the only other non-paper item atop the desk.

Holding down the corner of a diagram of the facility, functioning as a paperweight, were Davis's car keys.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 12:59:41 AM
Quote from: Pæs on December 18, 2015, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 18, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
So, the Happy Families bubble burst today, and I am pleased to report that my employees are actually just as fucked up as everyone else.

Most of them are going on vacation next Monday, and they suddenly all decided they had to get "their side of the story" in with the new boss.  But the new boss doesn't care.  Half of them are cheating on their spouses with coworkers.  I don't care.  The other half are overly concerned about said cheating.  This also doesn't register as important.  I have seen where this goes, and it's a horrible snarl of twisted priorities, but I don't give a shit.

It's really this simple.  We fix the domes.  We get the brain-eating amoebas out of the water.  We clean up after semifunctional scientists and ancient docents.  We don't run tourists over.  It's not calculus.

I am not bitching, mind you.  I am actually quite relieved, as things seemed just a little too good to be true, and now it's way more human.

Hank shuffled into the room. This was an office, once. Long ago, before the Roger times came. Hank remembered an office here some time last month. Now it was a labyrinth of manuals and schematics. Hank couldn't believe there was anywhere enough equipment to justify this much paper. Not in the complex. Not in the state.

He had been hesitant to come in, really. Davis had come in with a welcome and a gift basket earlier in the day and nobody had seen him since. He'd probably gone home. Must have gone home. But it didn't sit right. No, Hank hadn't wanted to come in but he felt it was morally imperative that the new boss know the score.

The room seemed empty. Gradually accepting that Roger wasn't in, Hank let his attention drift to the annotated schematics covering the floors and walls and found that he had trouble parsing them. He narrowed his eyes and moved nearer a document with renewed focus. To his surprise, the content was indecipherable. It was positively arcane and certainly nothing related to any of the equipment he'd ever seen. Paralysed by puzzlement as he was, Hank didn't see Roger emerge from a stack of books until he was upon him, pinning the puzzled engineer to the wall and disturbing the new wallpaper, sending robot pin-ups drifting to the floor.

"What is it, man? Is it the domes?"

Hank blinked and stammered, "I... I... no? What? No. The domes are..." He committed to pushing Roger from him indignantly and straightening his clothes but found this commitment didn't translate into anywhere near enough force to make the man budge. Roger's face advanced upon him and Hank became aware that the new boss was wearing a jeweller's monocle, giving an eerie, inquisitive edge to his stare.

"The domes are..? You were saying about the domes?"

Hank stared in terror. "No, I... well, that is. I thought you should know about what's going on between Laura and James and Karen." He had meant to be more tactful, but circumstances had not allowed for that. Roger released him and turned away dismissively, appearing to immediately lose interest. He took a couple of steps away before pausing and looking back "And you're certain there's nothing about the domes?" The new boss's glare was chilling. "You certainly wouldn't keep anything from me if it were about the domes?"

Hank shook his head desperately. Roger glared a moment longer then nodded his acceptance. "Very well. Back to work. There's no place like dome." His lips twitched a brief smile at the last sentence. Roger gestured to his desk, upon which a gift basket sat. "Help yourself to a little treat on your way out, for your excellent work."

Hank's blood ran cold. Not at the sight of the gift basket, but at the only other non-paper item atop the desk.

Holding down the corner of a diagram of the facility, functioning as a paperweight, were Davis's car keys.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Today I learned that all of our vehicles must be seconded US Government vehicles, usually pickup trucks that are too worn out for ICE to run Mexicans over with.  HOWEVER, I also learned that a weird accounting glitch means the government PAYS us $20 for each vehicle we take, and we can take M113 armored personnel carriers.  For fuck's sake.

I pointed out to acquisitions that I have 3000 acres of flat land on which to place M113s, and that the sides of the mountain are worth a few thousand more acres easy, and that we could probably take enough armored vehicles to fund us for a fiscal year.

Then, it seems, I can legally hand over any seconded vehicles to the Nation (the Tohono Od'ham).

SO.

I fund my department by taking tanks.  I then take the tanks the government paid me to take, and hand them over to the Nation, which uses them to push Whitey into the ocean.

Also, did I mention the 35 Mw laser?  That's a thing.

I'm so happy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 01:03:54 AM
Quote from: Xaz on December 18, 2015, 10:14:21 AM
So yesterday I visited the University of Limerick where some dudes in a basement (They have a wind tunnel! (I didn't get to play with it.)) are prototyping fibre-reinforced plastic manhole covers.

The reason I was there is that I work for the company who manufactures the liquid resin component that is combined with the glass to eventually become a solid object. I work in the Technical Service department which basically means I try to solve customer's problems if and when they encounter them.

Upon landing in Shannon (home to the world's first Duty Free!) and being picked up by the local sales manager he warned me that the timescales of academia may not be quite as fast as I have become used to in the world of work. No matter, I thought - our resin only takes half an hour to cure and we've got all day...

We made one part exactly how they'd been making all the others. Unsurprisingly it displayed the same problem. Then it was time for lunch and a walk around campus for some reason.

By the time we had returned to the lab, finished discussing the new and (hopefully) improved reinforcement stack, re-discussed it with the owner of the company sponsoring the research, who had just arrived, and loaded it in the mould it was too late to make a second part.

Then I flew home.

I will find out today whether my improvements have improved things.

Xaz, it's worth noting that things are different in Academia, and not for the likes of you or I to inquire too closely.  Just take the money and smile.  You will be considered a genius.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Also, growing long hair and a beard, on account of "frozen hell".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 01:49:19 AM
Quote from: Xaz on December 18, 2015, 10:14:21 AM
Upon landing in Shannon (home to the world's first Duty Free!) and being picked up by the local sales manager he warned me that the timescales of academia may not be quite as fast as I have become used to in the world of work.

This is like the understatement of all understatements.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 01:51:08 AM
Today, basically absolutely nothing happened.

It was great!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 03:29:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Also, growing long hair and a beard, on account of "frozen hell".

Probably a good call. Progressing the trend though.... you might just be enjoying relatively cool and comfortable breezes in the summer up there while all others are frying and cursing the sun.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 03:35:04 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 03:29:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Also, growing long hair and a beard, on account of "frozen hell".

Probably a good call. Progressing the trend though.... you might just be enjoying relatively cool and comfortable breezes in the summer up there while all others are frying and cursing the sun.

It's 80-100F in the summertime, I gather.  At which point I will break out the shears.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 03:37:55 AM
This is where I work.  For scale, the diagonal silo looking thing (the solar telescope) is 300 ft tall.

(http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/9901/kpno_noao_big.jpg)

I will be posting pics of my own some time next week.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 19, 2015, 03:44:47 AM
Oh holy hell. That is so beautiful.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 04:12:26 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 19, 2015, 03:44:47 AM
Oh holy hell. That is so beautiful.

Isn't it?  I spent my lunch hour looking at the sun's convection zone.  Two good sunspots, one about the size of Earth, one a bit bigger.  Each one is, of course, a "cold spot" caused by the sun's magnetic field.

My pants are full of love.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

See I can sympathize with that a bit. I had a bit of internal reconciliation to work through as I realized that I had a polyamorous nature in terms of relationships, but not particularly in a sexual context. I'm not keen AT ALL with other males around while actually getting sexual, but am also very comfortable with socializing with a partner's significant other(s) outside of active sexual context. There is a distinctive need for openness and painstaking honesty with self and others in such matters that comes very naturally to me. I do not particularly desire, and so don't seek, to be with more than 1 partner at a time in a sexual context. It's not like I think I'd mind, pretty sure I'd enjoy the challenge in fact, but it doesn't matter enough to attempt to act towards and hasn't come up otherwise. Not sure where this puts me on like a "polyamory spectrum" or something, but it's not quite "cis" for sure.

What I don't have is a sexual identity built around being "poly" or anything else for that matter other than heterosexual. I can find a male personally attractive, acknowledge physical beauty, admire ability, and love one in the brotherly sense, but I have yet to feel like I'd like to "get on that". I really don't expect that I ever will.  My sexuality is not a big part of my identity overall in fact, but an important one to be sure.

Now some folks find themselves and swiftly build an ID around their new found attributes. After much observation of identity "converts" of various sorts I've come to simply accept that the kinda teen like behavior is almost universal in the early stages. I suspect, in most unscientific fashion, that it's some sort of neurological throwback to the last time most folks "discovered themselves" around puberty. It's notably common in ideological conversion and personal discovery alike. Thing is, a sexual personal discovery is often at odds with ideology that's been loaded into the brain since childhood by parentage and various social constructs. The ideology is a 3rd+ circuit program, and a genuine personal discovery is likely a "hardwired" 1st AND 2nd circuit instinct previously suppressed by said ideology or simply unexpressed previously. A period of potentially obnoxious catharsis and social realignment is inevitable in those that wisely, healthily drop the ideology in favor of accepting who and what they are.

It's still annoying to those that have already been there, did that, and moved on. I get that for sure!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 19, 2015, 04:22:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 03:37:55 AM
This is where I work.  For scale, the diagonal silo looking thing (the solar telescope) is 300 ft tall.

(http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/9901/kpno_noao_big.jpg)

I will be posting pics of my own some time next week.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer lizard man.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:25:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 03:35:04 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 03:29:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Also, growing long hair and a beard, on account of "frozen hell".

Probably a good call. Progressing the trend though.... you might just be enjoying relatively cool and comfortable breezes in the summer up there while all others are frying and cursing the sun.

It's 80-100F in the summertime, I gather.  At which point I will break out the shears.

That pic is amazing!

How's the humidity? I see plenty of trees. In a dry spell wouldn't the height lead to a lot of lightning?

Also... could you possibly acquire milspec construction vehicles under the policy above? A crane or two might prove invaluable around those cliffs.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 04:36:00 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 19, 2015, 04:22:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 03:37:55 AM
This is where I work.  For scale, the diagonal silo looking thing (the solar telescope) is 300 ft tall.

(http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/9901/kpno_noao_big.jpg)

I will be posting pics of my own some time next week.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer lizard man.

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

See I can sympathize with that a bit. I had a bit of internal reconciliation to work through as I realized that I had a polyamorous nature in terms of relationships, but not particularly in a sexual context. I'm not keen AT ALL with other males around while actually getting sexual, but am also very comfortable with socializing with a partner's significant other(s) outside of active sexual context. There is a distinctive need for openness and painstaking honesty with self and others in such matters that comes very naturally to me. I do not particularly desire, and so don't seek, to be with more than 1 partner at a time in a sexual context. It's not like I think I'd mind, pretty sure I'd enjoy the challenge in fact, but it doesn't matter enough to attempt to act towards and hasn't come up otherwise. Not sure where this puts me on like a "polyamory spectrum" or something, but it's not quite "cis" for sure.

What I don't have is a sexual identity built around being "poly" or anything else for that matter other than heterosexual. I can find a male personally attractive, acknowledge physical beauty, admire ability, and love one in the brotherly sense, but I have yet to feel like I'd like to "get on that". I really don't expect that I ever will.  My sexuality is not a big part of my identity overall in fact, but an important one to be sure.

Now some folks find themselves and swiftly build an ID around their new found attributes. After much observation of identity "converts" of various sorts I've come to simply accept that the kinda teen like behavior is almost universal in the early stages. I suspect, in most unscientific fashion, that it's some sort of neurological throwback to the last time most folks "discovered themselves" around puberty. It's notably common in ideological conversion and personal discovery alike. Thing is, a sexual personal discovery is often at odds with ideology that's been loaded into the brain since childhood by parentage and various social constructs. The ideology is a 3rd+ circuit program, and a genuine personal discovery is likely a "hardwired" 1st AND 2nd circuit instinct previously suppressed by said ideology or simply unexpressed previously. A period of potentially obnoxious catharsis and social realignment is inevitable in those that wisely, healthily drop the ideology in favor of accepting who and what they are.

It's still annoying to those that have already been there, did that, and moved on. I get that for sure!

I can sympathize with the experience, it's the delusion that the fine details of the experience are so important to the public knowledge base that they need to blog the process-- usually while taking a sort of elder-sibling-dispensing-advice tone-- that I find ridiculous.

I got lost when you started talking about circuits with numbers... I haven't read those books because they were hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:06:02 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:25:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 03:35:04 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 03:29:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Also, growing long hair and a beard, on account of "frozen hell".

Probably a good call. Progressing the trend though.... you might just be enjoying relatively cool and comfortable breezes in the summer up there while all others are frying and cursing the sun.

It's 80-100F in the summertime, I gather.  At which point I will break out the shears.

That pic is amazing!

How's the humidity? I see plenty of trees. In a dry spell wouldn't the height lead to a lot of lightning?

Also... could you possibly acquire milspec construction vehicles under the policy above? A crane or two might prove invaluable around those cliffs.

Sorry, missed this.

At that altitude, there's about as much water as you'd get in Wisconsin.  Lighting is a thing.  It is a huge thing.  It is in fact the second worst thing in the world.

And we have about 6 cranes, but they're mostly useless, just on account of the sheer scale of everything involved.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:07:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

See I can sympathize with that a bit. I had a bit of internal reconciliation to work through as I realized that I had a polyamorous nature in terms of relationships, but not particularly in a sexual context. I'm not keen AT ALL with other males around while actually getting sexual, but am also very comfortable with socializing with a partner's significant other(s) outside of active sexual context. There is a distinctive need for openness and painstaking honesty with self and others in such matters that comes very naturally to me. I do not particularly desire, and so don't seek, to be with more than 1 partner at a time in a sexual context. It's not like I think I'd mind, pretty sure I'd enjoy the challenge in fact, but it doesn't matter enough to attempt to act towards and hasn't come up otherwise. Not sure where this puts me on like a "polyamory spectrum" or something, but it's not quite "cis" for sure.

What I don't have is a sexual identity built around being "poly" or anything else for that matter other than heterosexual. I can find a male personally attractive, acknowledge physical beauty, admire ability, and love one in the brotherly sense, but I have yet to feel like I'd like to "get on that". I really don't expect that I ever will.  My sexuality is not a big part of my identity overall in fact, but an important one to be sure.

Now some folks find themselves and swiftly build an ID around their new found attributes. After much observation of identity "converts" of various sorts I've come to simply accept that the kinda teen like behavior is almost universal in the early stages. I suspect, in most unscientific fashion, that it's some sort of neurological throwback to the last time most folks "discovered themselves" around puberty. It's notably common in ideological conversion and personal discovery alike. Thing is, a sexual personal discovery is often at odds with ideology that's been loaded into the brain since childhood by parentage and various social constructs. The ideology is a 3rd+ circuit program, and a genuine personal discovery is likely a "hardwired" 1st AND 2nd circuit instinct previously suppressed by said ideology or simply unexpressed previously. A period of potentially obnoxious catharsis and social realignment is inevitable in those that wisely, healthily drop the ideology in favor of accepting who and what they are.

It's still annoying to those that have already been there, did that, and moved on. I get that for sure!

I can sympathize with the experience, it's the delusion that the fine details of the experience are so important to the public knowledge base that they need to blog the process-- usually while taking a sort of elder-sibling-dispensing-advice tone-- that I find ridiculous.

I got lost when you started talking about circuits with numbers... I haven't read those books because they were hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.

I'll give you that on the pseudoscience and boring shit, but once understood I've found it's not a useless way to view cognition.

1st circuit is the raw survival and reproduction instincts. It's pure instinct without ANY cognitive action and informs "higher circuit" functions on a deeply unconscious level.
2nd is the territorial instinct. The point where you begin to see an organism actively, if not necessarily consciously, respond to the environment and other organisms and set boundaries.
3rd is the kind of cognition common to higher animals. That is to say concept communication and, in humans, language and names. Dogs, for example, have a weak version of this but can understand a humans commands after proper training, though grasping context is rare.

The model is unscientific to be sure, but perceiving the functions of the mind in this way is very useful for training behavior. Martial artists, salespeople, leaders, or anyone with a vested interest in understanding, anticipating, or instilling "thoughtless" reactions can make use of this QUITE ancient art. The "circuit model" is merely an attempt to scientifically describe it, but the mind and it's functions cannot be quantified objectively as far as I know. If so it will never be science, but it doesn't have to be to have effect.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:06:02 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:25:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 03:35:04 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 03:29:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Also, growing long hair and a beard, on account of "frozen hell".

Probably a good call. Progressing the trend though.... you might just be enjoying relatively cool and comfortable breezes in the summer up there while all others are frying and cursing the sun.

It's 80-100F in the summertime, I gather.  At which point I will break out the shears.

That pic is amazing!

How's the humidity? I see plenty of trees. In a dry spell wouldn't the height lead to a lot of lightning?

Also... could you possibly acquire milspec construction vehicles under the policy above? A crane or two might prove invaluable around those cliffs.

Sorry, missed this.

At that altitude, there's about as much water as you'd get in Wisconsin.  Lighting is a thing.  It is a huge thing.  It is in fact the second worst thing in the world.

And we have about 6 cranes, but they're mostly useless, just on account of the sheer scale of everything involved.

No apologies man!   :lulz: Hell I stopped expecting continuity in Internet communications a long time ago. I try not to expect the same sort of follow through that I do face to face or on the phone. Still appreciated!

Yeah, the scale of the complex hit me when I saw the pic. You don't need cranes. You need jet packs!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:19:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
Yeah, the scale of the complex hit me when I saw the pic. You don't need cranes. You need jet packs!

What I need is a better road up the mountain.  Given the political climate, I should get the money for that sometime next century.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 06:25:07 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:07:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

See I can sympathize with that a bit. I had a bit of internal reconciliation to work through as I realized that I had a polyamorous nature in terms of relationships, but not particularly in a sexual context. I'm not keen AT ALL with other males around while actually getting sexual, but am also very comfortable with socializing with a partner's significant other(s) outside of active sexual context. There is a distinctive need for openness and painstaking honesty with self and others in such matters that comes very naturally to me. I do not particularly desire, and so don't seek, to be with more than 1 partner at a time in a sexual context. It's not like I think I'd mind, pretty sure I'd enjoy the challenge in fact, but it doesn't matter enough to attempt to act towards and hasn't come up otherwise. Not sure where this puts me on like a "polyamory spectrum" or something, but it's not quite "cis" for sure.

What I don't have is a sexual identity built around being "poly" or anything else for that matter other than heterosexual. I can find a male personally attractive, acknowledge physical beauty, admire ability, and love one in the brotherly sense, but I have yet to feel like I'd like to "get on that". I really don't expect that I ever will.  My sexuality is not a big part of my identity overall in fact, but an important one to be sure.

Now some folks find themselves and swiftly build an ID around their new found attributes. After much observation of identity "converts" of various sorts I've come to simply accept that the kinda teen like behavior is almost universal in the early stages. I suspect, in most unscientific fashion, that it's some sort of neurological throwback to the last time most folks "discovered themselves" around puberty. It's notably common in ideological conversion and personal discovery alike. Thing is, a sexual personal discovery is often at odds with ideology that's been loaded into the brain since childhood by parentage and various social constructs. The ideology is a 3rd+ circuit program, and a genuine personal discovery is likely a "hardwired" 1st AND 2nd circuit instinct previously suppressed by said ideology or simply unexpressed previously. A period of potentially obnoxious catharsis and social realignment is inevitable in those that wisely, healthily drop the ideology in favor of accepting who and what they are.

It's still annoying to those that have already been there, did that, and moved on. I get that for sure!

I can sympathize with the experience, it's the delusion that the fine details of the experience are so important to the public knowledge base that they need to blog the process-- usually while taking a sort of elder-sibling-dispensing-advice tone-- that I find ridiculous.

I got lost when you started talking about circuits with numbers... I haven't read those books because they were hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.

I'll give you that on the pseudoscience and boring shit, but once understood I've found it's not a useless way to view cognition.

1st circuit is the raw survival and reproduction instincts. It's pure instinct without ANY cognitive action and informs "higher circuit" functions on a deeply unconscious level.
2nd is the territorial instinct. The point where you begin to see an organism actively, if not necessarily consciously, respond to the environment and other organisms and set boundaries.
3rd is the kind of cognition common to higher animals. That is to say concept communication and, in humans, language and names. Dogs, for example, have a weak version of this but can understand a humans commands after proper training, though grasping context is rare.

The model is unscientific to be sure, but perceiving the functions of the mind in this way is very useful for training behavior. Martial artists, salespeople, leaders, or anyone with a vested interest in understanding, anticipating, or instilling "thoughtless" reactions can make use of this QUITE ancient art. The "circuit model" is merely an attempt to scientifically describe it, but the mind and it's functions cannot be quantified objectively as far as I know. If so it will never be science, but it doesn't have to be to have effect.

Oh, no, I wasn't asking you to explain. I have no interest.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:38:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 06:25:07 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:07:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

See I can sympathize with that a bit. I had a bit of internal reconciliation to work through as I realized that I had a polyamorous nature in terms of relationships, but not particularly in a sexual context. I'm not keen AT ALL with other males around while actually getting sexual, but am also very comfortable with socializing with a partner's significant other(s) outside of active sexual context. There is a distinctive need for openness and painstaking honesty with self and others in such matters that comes very naturally to me. I do not particularly desire, and so don't seek, to be with more than 1 partner at a time in a sexual context. It's not like I think I'd mind, pretty sure I'd enjoy the challenge in fact, but it doesn't matter enough to attempt to act towards and hasn't come up otherwise. Not sure where this puts me on like a "polyamory spectrum" or something, but it's not quite "cis" for sure.

What I don't have is a sexual identity built around being "poly" or anything else for that matter other than heterosexual. I can find a male personally attractive, acknowledge physical beauty, admire ability, and love one in the brotherly sense, but I have yet to feel like I'd like to "get on that". I really don't expect that I ever will.  My sexuality is not a big part of my identity overall in fact, but an important one to be sure.

Now some folks find themselves and swiftly build an ID around their new found attributes. After much observation of identity "converts" of various sorts I've come to simply accept that the kinda teen like behavior is almost universal in the early stages. I suspect, in most unscientific fashion, that it's some sort of neurological throwback to the last time most folks "discovered themselves" around puberty. It's notably common in ideological conversion and personal discovery alike. Thing is, a sexual personal discovery is often at odds with ideology that's been loaded into the brain since childhood by parentage and various social constructs. The ideology is a 3rd+ circuit program, and a genuine personal discovery is likely a "hardwired" 1st AND 2nd circuit instinct previously suppressed by said ideology or simply unexpressed previously. A period of potentially obnoxious catharsis and social realignment is inevitable in those that wisely, healthily drop the ideology in favor of accepting who and what they are.

It's still annoying to those that have already been there, did that, and moved on. I get that for sure!

I can sympathize with the experience, it's the delusion that the fine details of the experience are so important to the public knowledge base that they need to blog the process-- usually while taking a sort of elder-sibling-dispensing-advice tone-- that I find ridiculous.

I got lost when you started talking about circuits with numbers... I haven't read those books because they were hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.

I'll give you that on the pseudoscience and boring shit, but once understood I've found it's not a useless way to view cognition.

1st circuit is the raw survival and reproduction instincts. It's pure instinct without ANY cognitive action and informs "higher circuit" functions on a deeply unconscious level.
2nd is the territorial instinct. The point where you begin to see an organism actively, if not necessarily consciously, respond to the environment and other organisms and set boundaries.
3rd is the kind of cognition common to higher animals. That is to say concept communication and, in humans, language and names. Dogs, for example, have a weak version of this but can understand a humans commands after proper training, though grasping context is rare.

The model is unscientific to be sure, but perceiving the functions of the mind in this way is very useful for training behavior. Martial artists, salespeople, leaders, or anyone with a vested interest in understanding, anticipating, or instilling "thoughtless" reactions can make use of this QUITE ancient art. The "circuit model" is merely an attempt to scientifically describe it, but the mind and it's functions cannot be quantified objectively as far as I know. If so it will never be science, but it doesn't have to be to have effect.

Oh, no, I wasn't asking you to explain. I have no interest.

Ah! See I had only explained thinking that you wished to understand what I was talking about with all that jargon. I will not presume that you want or require one unless asked in the future. Is all good. :)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:19:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
Yeah, the scale of the complex hit me when I saw the pic. You don't need cranes. You need jet packs!

What I need is a better road up the mountain.  Given the political climate, I should get the money for that sometime next century.

Any chance of the Nation giving a kick back donation for any possible milspec trucks they might turn around and sell internationally? Or would that be crossing the line into fraud?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:57:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:19:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
Yeah, the scale of the complex hit me when I saw the pic. You don't need cranes. You need jet packs!

What I need is a better road up the mountain.  Given the political climate, I should get the money for that sometime next century.

Any chance of the Nation giving a kick back donation for any possible milspec trucks they might turn around and sell internationally? Or would that be crossing the line into fraud?

That would in fact be illegal, both by federal law and the nation's laws.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 07:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:38:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 06:25:07 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:07:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

See I can sympathize with that a bit. I had a bit of internal reconciliation to work through as I realized that I had a polyamorous nature in terms of relationships, but not particularly in a sexual context. I'm not keen AT ALL with other males around while actually getting sexual, but am also very comfortable with socializing with a partner's significant other(s) outside of active sexual context. There is a distinctive need for openness and painstaking honesty with self and others in such matters that comes very naturally to me. I do not particularly desire, and so don't seek, to be with more than 1 partner at a time in a sexual context. It's not like I think I'd mind, pretty sure I'd enjoy the challenge in fact, but it doesn't matter enough to attempt to act towards and hasn't come up otherwise. Not sure where this puts me on like a "polyamory spectrum" or something, but it's not quite "cis" for sure.

What I don't have is a sexual identity built around being "poly" or anything else for that matter other than heterosexual. I can find a male personally attractive, acknowledge physical beauty, admire ability, and love one in the brotherly sense, but I have yet to feel like I'd like to "get on that". I really don't expect that I ever will.  My sexuality is not a big part of my identity overall in fact, but an important one to be sure.

Now some folks find themselves and swiftly build an ID around their new found attributes. After much observation of identity "converts" of various sorts I've come to simply accept that the kinda teen like behavior is almost universal in the early stages. I suspect, in most unscientific fashion, that it's some sort of neurological throwback to the last time most folks "discovered themselves" around puberty. It's notably common in ideological conversion and personal discovery alike. Thing is, a sexual personal discovery is often at odds with ideology that's been loaded into the brain since childhood by parentage and various social constructs. The ideology is a 3rd+ circuit program, and a genuine personal discovery is likely a "hardwired" 1st AND 2nd circuit instinct previously suppressed by said ideology or simply unexpressed previously. A period of potentially obnoxious catharsis and social realignment is inevitable in those that wisely, healthily drop the ideology in favor of accepting who and what they are.

It's still annoying to those that have already been there, did that, and moved on. I get that for sure!

I can sympathize with the experience, it's the delusion that the fine details of the experience are so important to the public knowledge base that they need to blog the process-- usually while taking a sort of elder-sibling-dispensing-advice tone-- that I find ridiculous.

I got lost when you started talking about circuits with numbers... I haven't read those books because they were hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.

I'll give you that on the pseudoscience and boring shit, but once understood I've found it's not a useless way to view cognition.

1st circuit is the raw survival and reproduction instincts. It's pure instinct without ANY cognitive action and informs "higher circuit" functions on a deeply unconscious level.
2nd is the territorial instinct. The point where you begin to see an organism actively, if not necessarily consciously, respond to the environment and other organisms and set boundaries.
3rd is the kind of cognition common to higher animals. That is to say concept communication and, in humans, language and names. Dogs, for example, have a weak version of this but can understand a humans commands after proper training, though grasping context is rare.

The model is unscientific to be sure, but perceiving the functions of the mind in this way is very useful for training behavior. Martial artists, salespeople, leaders, or anyone with a vested interest in understanding, anticipating, or instilling "thoughtless" reactions can make use of this QUITE ancient art. The "circuit model" is merely an attempt to scientifically describe it, but the mind and it's functions cannot be quantified objectively as far as I know. If so it will never be science, but it doesn't have to be to have effect.

Oh, no, I wasn't asking you to explain. I have no interest.

Ah! See I had only explained thinking that you wished to understand what I was talking about with all that jargon. I will not presume that you want or require one unless asked in the future. Is all good. :)

That is very kind! It's just that it's impossible to get around the "hopelessly boring" part of hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 07:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:38:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 06:25:07 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:07:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
The one cranky thing I kind of want to post on my Facebook wall but won't (unlike most of the cranky things I say, which go right on up there) is that I find almost all poly bloggers tedious as fuck. Like, are they seriously so totally un-self-aware that they don't realize that they aren't blogging because they have profound insights on love and life, but because they are processing their own inner conflict between what they think is expected of them and what they want?

The experiences of love and romance are deep and new and profound to the ones experiencing them, but they are very nearly universal, which is why people have been, effectively, journaling them through art and literature since those things took root as a form of human cultural transmission. Almost without fail these blogs read like the diary of a 14-year-old who has just had her first romantic experience and is still trying to sort out what all the feelings mean and whether they're OK; the detailed histories of their first meeting, the examinations of the emotional responses, the dialogue, the weighted, almost mystical importance given to mundane and trivial events.

Most of all, the sense of significance running through the whole narrative; the significance of the experience, of the writer, of the discovery of polyamory, of actually caring about and fucking more than one person at a time, and of the narration itself; the complete inability to take a step back and realize that none of these experiences are new on a human scale, none of them are groundbreaking, and that ultimately these blogs are as boring, banal, and commonplace as a teenager's angsty diary or any middle-aged adult's midlife crisis; and that essentially they are blogging instead of talking to their therapist, who would do them the favor of explaining to them that it's OK and that everything they are experiencing is normal and fine, and maybe would even suggest that they pick up a copy of the Joy of Sex, the original with the hairy hippies copulating in hand-drawn illustrations, so that they could finally understand that their parents already had this revolution and everything is going to be okay.

See I can sympathize with that a bit. I had a bit of internal reconciliation to work through as I realized that I had a polyamorous nature in terms of relationships, but not particularly in a sexual context. I'm not keen AT ALL with other males around while actually getting sexual, but am also very comfortable with socializing with a partner's significant other(s) outside of active sexual context. There is a distinctive need for openness and painstaking honesty with self and others in such matters that comes very naturally to me. I do not particularly desire, and so don't seek, to be with more than 1 partner at a time in a sexual context. It's not like I think I'd mind, pretty sure I'd enjoy the challenge in fact, but it doesn't matter enough to attempt to act towards and hasn't come up otherwise. Not sure where this puts me on like a "polyamory spectrum" or something, but it's not quite "cis" for sure.

What I don't have is a sexual identity built around being "poly" or anything else for that matter other than heterosexual. I can find a male personally attractive, acknowledge physical beauty, admire ability, and love one in the brotherly sense, but I have yet to feel like I'd like to "get on that". I really don't expect that I ever will.  My sexuality is not a big part of my identity overall in fact, but an important one to be sure.

Now some folks find themselves and swiftly build an ID around their new found attributes. After much observation of identity "converts" of various sorts I've come to simply accept that the kinda teen like behavior is almost universal in the early stages. I suspect, in most unscientific fashion, that it's some sort of neurological throwback to the last time most folks "discovered themselves" around puberty. It's notably common in ideological conversion and personal discovery alike. Thing is, a sexual personal discovery is often at odds with ideology that's been loaded into the brain since childhood by parentage and various social constructs. The ideology is a 3rd+ circuit program, and a genuine personal discovery is likely a "hardwired" 1st AND 2nd circuit instinct previously suppressed by said ideology or simply unexpressed previously. A period of potentially obnoxious catharsis and social realignment is inevitable in those that wisely, healthily drop the ideology in favor of accepting who and what they are.

It's still annoying to those that have already been there, did that, and moved on. I get that for sure!

I can sympathize with the experience, it's the delusion that the fine details of the experience are so important to the public knowledge base that they need to blog the process-- usually while taking a sort of elder-sibling-dispensing-advice tone-- that I find ridiculous.

I got lost when you started talking about circuits with numbers... I haven't read those books because they were hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.

I'll give you that on the pseudoscience and boring shit, but once understood I've found it's not a useless way to view cognition.

1st circuit is the raw survival and reproduction instincts. It's pure instinct without ANY cognitive action and informs "higher circuit" functions on a deeply unconscious level.
2nd is the territorial instinct. The point where you begin to see an organism actively, if not necessarily consciously, respond to the environment and other organisms and set boundaries.
3rd is the kind of cognition common to higher animals. That is to say concept communication and, in humans, language and names. Dogs, for example, have a weak version of this but can understand a humans commands after proper training, though grasping context is rare.

The model is unscientific to be sure, but perceiving the functions of the mind in this way is very useful for training behavior. Martial artists, salespeople, leaders, or anyone with a vested interest in understanding, anticipating, or instilling "thoughtless" reactions can make use of this QUITE ancient art. The "circuit model" is merely an attempt to scientifically describe it, but the mind and it's functions cannot be quantified objectively as far as I know. If so it will never be science, but it doesn't have to be to have effect.

Oh, no, I wasn't asking you to explain. I have no interest.

Ah! See I had only explained thinking that you wished to understand what I was talking about with all that jargon. I will not presume that you want or require one unless asked in the future. Is all good. :)

That is very kind! It's just that it's impossible to get around the "hopelessly boring" part of hopelessly boring pseudopsychology.

I may yet attempt to re-express the thought without the jargon. It's not really necessary, it was just what came to mind at the time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 07:46:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:57:29 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:55:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2015, 06:19:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on December 19, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
Yeah, the scale of the complex hit me when I saw the pic. You don't need cranes. You need jet packs!

What I need is a better road up the mountain.  Given the political climate, I should get the money for that sometime next century.

Any chance of the Nation giving a kick back donation for any possible milspec trucks they might turn around and sell internationally? Or would that be crossing the line into fraud?

That would in fact be illegal, both by federal law and the nation's laws.

:argh!: People are trying to Science dammit!!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 19, 2015, 08:00:23 AM
A guy was following me for like 10 miles today.

So I went around a round about until he lost interest.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 07:35:08 PM
Someone's trying to get into my Facebook account.

HOW ODD.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 19, 2015, 08:02:21 PM
They just tried again. Funny, someone tried to do the same thing to Alty's account a couple weeks ago.

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2015, 01:58:24 AM
I sincerely hate the whole holiday gift-giving season and all of its dreadful expectations.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 20, 2015, 10:35:41 AM




I do not save.  I do not have mercy.  It will always be as it already was, the suffering of legend.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:24:37 PM
I think I'm just going to stop trying to date for a while. Every time it ends up being that they like me more than I like them, and having to turn them down when they've got their hopes up gives anxiety. I know this potentially sounds kind of ass-hatty, since I'm the one doing the rejecting, but it still makes me feel really bad.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2015, 01:58:24 AM
I sincerely hate the whole holiday gift-giving season and all of its dreadful expectations.

So you're saying your not getting me a gift?  :argh!:

I wanted an aquarium pony.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:29:59 PM
Also, sorry men, but I just cannot date you if you address me as "home skillet".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 20, 2015, 11:07:28 PM
>dating poor people
Gross
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 20, 2015, 11:11:53 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 20, 2015, 11:07:28 PM
>dating poor people
Gross

I don't know what you're trying to insinuate.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2015, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2015, 01:58:24 AM
I sincerely hate the whole holiday gift-giving season and all of its dreadful expectations.

So you're saying your not getting me a gift?  :argh!:

I wanted an aquarium pony.

I have a stock tank full of "aquarium ponies" in the back yard, let me get a Mason jar and you can have as many as you want.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2015, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:24:37 PM
I think I'm just going to stop trying to date for a while. Every time it ends up being that they like me more than I like them, and having to turn them down when they've got their hopes up gives anxiety. I know this potentially sounds kind of ass-hatty, since I'm the one doing the rejecting, but it still makes me feel really bad.

Dating is horrible, I hate it.

I would advise you to quit dating, but you already have. So I'll move on to part 2 of my advice, which is to fill the time you used to spend trying to date instead doing something that is fun and brings you into contact with more friend-people. School or hiking or yarnbombing or volunteering or some other thing like that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
Cattle-rustling is a great way to meet new people.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2015, 07:35:40 PM
"Hey, all the kitchens are pretty fucked up. When are the cleaners coming in?"

"The cleaners have two weeks off."

"Yeah, but I mean really fucked up. Like, rotting food left out, multiple bin bags just sitting on the floor...we're talking crack den level filth here."

"The cleaners aren't back until the new year."

"I don't think you're quite understanding me. This is a literal health and safety hazard. We're talking rats, festering rotting food, risk of bacterial infection...all those delightful things. When is this going to get sorted? And don't give me the "cleaners aren't in until the new year" crap. I don't get 2 weeks off at Xmas."

"The cleaner's aren't-"

"I give up."
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2015, 07:49:40 PM
They gave then entire cleaning staff the same two weeks off?

That's insane.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
It's a holdover, from when this place was a boarding school.

Basically, the problem is one specific school within the wider corporate structure owns this building, while 3 different schools have their students here.  The owner school shuts down over Xmas, with the students leaving.  With the students gone, there is no need for the cleaning staff.

However, the other two colleges have 18+ age students, who are not required to leave.  Furthermore, many are Chinese and so are not especially concerned about going home for Xmas.

However, the cleaners are employed by the one school that closes down during the holiday period, not the two that remain open or the broader corporate parent company.  So...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 22, 2015, 12:09:51 AM
Harumph.  Anxiety poisons well on home front.
Philistines reacting the only way they know. 
Muses scattered back from whence they came. 
Litter of rats beckoning through kitchen walls
And bathroom stalls.
Yet this remains a beautiful day, insane?
Repeating all that ever was so good before
Overcoming difference, like a shit-house runt.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2015, 02:39:29 AM
Spent the day troubleshooting the potable water plant, trying to figure out why chlorine is down and tthms are up.  And why I had to shut down 2 of the older buildings' water because it had, you know, lead in it.

Realized after 4 hours that the pH meter was faulty, and that the water is way too acidic.  Not "melt your face off" acidic, just "fucking your chemistry sideways and eat your plumbing" acidic.  So I ask the water geeks why they have cheapshit equipment.  "Because we've always done it this way."

There is nothing new under the sun.  Time to do this shit all over again. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 22, 2015, 03:02:28 AM
A little lead in the water is good for you.  It's a mineral, body needs minerals to stay healthy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 22, 2015, 03:30:16 AM
Yeah, you'll be needing that lead. That high up in the clouds, man's liable to float away.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2015, 03:35:34 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 22, 2015, 03:02:28 AM
A little lead in the water is good for you.  It's a mineral, body needs minerals to stay healthy.

At least it's not all full of chemicals.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2015, 03:36:31 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 22, 2015, 03:30:16 AM
Yeah, you'll be needing that lead. That high up in the clouds, man's liable to float away.

Mostly we just lie on the ground and gasp for breath.

And then puff up and explode, like in Total Recall.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on December 22, 2015, 04:58:36 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2015, 02:39:29 AM
Spent the day troubleshooting the potable water plant, trying to figure out why chlorine is down and tthms are up.  And why I had to shut down 2 of the older buildings' water because it had, you know, lead in it.

Realized after 4 hours that the pH meter was faulty, and that the water is way too acidic.  Not "melt your face off" acidic, just "fucking your chemistry sideways and eat your plumbing" acidic.  So I ask the water geeks why they have cheapshit equipment.  "Because we've always done it this way."

There is nothing new under the sun.  Time to do this shit all over again.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 22, 2015, 05:26:40 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2015, 03:35:34 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 22, 2015, 03:02:28 AM
A little lead in the water is good for you.  It's a mineral, body needs minerals to stay healthy.

At least it's not all full of chemicals.

Foodbabe's told me about those.  I'm never taking any chemicals again.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 22, 2015, 07:39:01 AM
Aha, this solstice too has passed.  That is very good news!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 22, 2015, 04:43:00 PM
Got a call this morning that my regular hangout place and only place of human interaction, they got evicted.  At 6 am.  With apparently no notice, they had to be out of the building today.  I have been going into a downward slope thing emotionally, and had been looking forward to trying to ignore the Bad Days to come with Minecraft Realms and talking to my friend and friendly acquaintances.

Today is shaping up to be fucking fantastic, let me tell you. :kingmeh:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 22, 2015, 05:31:23 PM
That sux.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 23, 2015, 02:06:04 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 21, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
It's a holdover, from when this place was a boarding school.

Basically, the problem is one specific school within the wider corporate structure owns this building, while 3 different schools have their students here.  The owner school shuts down over Xmas, with the students leaving.  With the students gone, there is no need for the cleaning staff.

However, the other two colleges have 18+ age students, who are not required to leave.  Furthermore, many are Chinese and so are not especially concerned about going home for Xmas.

However, the cleaners are employed by the one school that closes down during the holiday period, not the two that remain open or the broader corporate parent company.  So...

What happens if you call the health department?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 23, 2015, 07:33:20 AM
Invited to do a s4s radio talk show on dicordia.

I'd be nervous if 10 mintues on s4s didn't just ruin my brain.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 24, 2015, 03:32:16 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2015, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2015, 01:58:24 AM
I sincerely hate the whole holiday gift-giving season and all of its dreadful expectations.

So you're saying your not getting me a gift?  :argh!:

I wanted an aquarium pony.

I have a stock tank full of "aquarium ponies" in the back yard, let me get a Mason jar and you can have as many as you want.

Now I'm almost afraid to ask.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 24, 2015, 03:35:24 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2015, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:24:37 PM
I think I'm just going to stop trying to date for a while. Every time it ends up being that they like me more than I like them, and having to turn them down when they've got their hopes up gives anxiety. I know this potentially sounds kind of ass-hatty, since I'm the one doing the rejecting, but it still makes me feel really bad.

Dating is horrible, I hate it.

I would advise you to quit dating, but you already have. So I'll move on to part 2 of my advice, which is to fill the time you used to spend trying to date instead doing something that is fun and brings you into contact with more friend-people. School or hiking or yarnbombing or volunteering or some other thing like that.

That is, indeed good advice. Being out of schools makes it hard for me to meet people my age, and it also doesn't help that I live in a town mostly full of wine-sipping retirees. But it will be my goal to find a like-minded interest group. Even if it doesn't lead to me finding romance, it will help with feeling so isolated here.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 24, 2015, 03:55:29 AM
Roger I forgot to mention that your defaming my character on facebook directly resulted in me reconnecting with a lovely young lady and I think she and I might be moving things forward so thanks dude.

:awesome:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 24, 2015, 04:18:13 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 24, 2015, 03:55:29 AM
Roger I forgot to mention that your defaming my character on facebook directly resulted in me reconnecting with a lovely young lady and I think she and I might be moving things forward so thanks dude.

:awesome:

This is what we Holy Men™ do.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 24, 2015, 04:18:55 AM
When we're not shitting the bed, I mean.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 24, 2015, 10:52:12 PM
Merry Christmas and Christmas Eve, you wonderful bastards, you.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 24, 2015, 10:52:12 PM
Merry Christmas and Christmas Eve, you wonderful bastards, you.

Not so merry.  You remember Charley (the guy who kept shooting Dom's character in the back?)

He died today, at age 33, of heart failure.

Between this and Hats closing up shop, this is the worst Christmas in a very long time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 25, 2015, 02:32:29 AM
Quote from: Nast on December 24, 2015, 03:35:24 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 21, 2015, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: Nast on December 20, 2015, 10:24:37 PM
I think I'm just going to stop trying to date for a while. Every time it ends up being that they like me more than I like them, and having to turn them down when they've got their hopes up gives anxiety. I know this potentially sounds kind of ass-hatty, since I'm the one doing the rejecting, but it still makes me feel really bad.

Dating is horrible, I hate it.

I would advise you to quit dating, but you already have. So I'll move on to part 2 of my advice, which is to fill the time you used to spend trying to date instead doing something that is fun and brings you into contact with more friend-people. School or hiking or yarnbombing or volunteering or some other thing like that.

That is, indeed good advice. Being out of schools makes it hard for me to meet people my age, and it also doesn't help that I live in a town mostly full of wine-sipping retirees. But it will be my goal to find a like-minded interest group. Even if it doesn't lead to me finding romance, it will help with feeling so isolated here.

Yay! Yes.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 25, 2015, 05:11:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 24, 2015, 10:52:12 PM
Merry Christmas and Christmas Eve, you wonderful bastards, you.

Not so merry.  You remember Charley (the guy who kept shooting Dom's character in the back?)

He died today, at age 33, of heart failure.

Between this and Hats closing up shop, this is the worst Christmas in a very long time.

I don't know anyone you're talking about, but you have my sympathies.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 25, 2015, 05:28:54 AM
Have a very chaotic christmas my friends.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 05:35:21 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 25, 2015, 05:11:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 24, 2015, 10:52:12 PM
Merry Christmas and Christmas Eve, you wonderful bastards, you.

Not so merry.  You remember Charley (the guy who kept shooting Dom's character in the back?)

He died today, at age 33, of heart failure.

Between this and Hats closing up shop, this is the worst Christmas in a very long time.

I don't know anyone you're talking about, but you have my sympathies.

Charley was this guy I knew from the game store who would give you the shirt off of his back, and never once in the 8 years I knew him ever got mad at anyone (that I know of).

Turns out he died on the 23rd, but I didn't hear about it until today.  He worked out for the first time in years, rehabbing from knee surgery, and apparently busted a clot loose.  Just one of those things.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: QueenThera on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 26, 2015, 01:09:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 05:35:21 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 25, 2015, 05:11:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 24, 2015, 10:52:12 PM
Merry Christmas and Christmas Eve, you wonderful bastards, you.

Not so merry.  You remember Charley (the guy who kept shooting Dom's character in the back?)

He died today, at age 33, of heart failure.

Between this and Hats closing up shop, this is the worst Christmas in a very long time.

I don't know anyone you're talking about, but you have my sympathies.

Charley was this guy I knew from the game store who would give you the shirt off of his back, and never once in the 8 years I knew him ever got mad at anyone (that I know of).

Turns out he died on the 23rd, but I didn't hear about it until today.  He worked out for the first time in years, rehabbing from knee surgery, and apparently busted a clot loose.  Just one of those things.

Was he the one with the lazy eye?That's the only Charlie I remember.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2015, 02:19:23 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 26, 2015, 01:09:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 05:35:21 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 25, 2015, 05:11:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 24, 2015, 10:52:12 PM
Merry Christmas and Christmas Eve, you wonderful bastards, you.

Not so merry.  You remember Charley (the guy who kept shooting Dom's character in the back?)

He died today, at age 33, of heart failure.

Between this and Hats closing up shop, this is the worst Christmas in a very long time.

I don't know anyone you're talking about, but you have my sympathies.

Charley was this guy I knew from the game store who would give you the shirt off of his back, and never once in the 8 years I knew him ever got mad at anyone (that I know of).

Turns out he died on the 23rd, but I didn't hear about it until today.  He worked out for the first time in years, rehabbing from knee surgery, and apparently busted a clot loose.  Just one of those things.

Was he the one with the lazy eye?That's the only Charlie I remember.

That's the one.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Richter on December 27, 2015, 02:09:35 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 05:35:21 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 25, 2015, 05:11:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 25, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on December 24, 2015, 10:52:12 PM
Merry Christmas and Christmas Eve, you wonderful bastards, you.

Not so merry.  You remember Charley (the guy who kept shooting Dom's character in the back?)

He died today, at age 33, of heart failure.

Between this and Hats closing up shop, this is the worst Christmas in a very long time.

I don't know anyone you're talking about, but you have my sympathies.

Charley was this guy I knew from the game store who would give you the shirt off of his back, and never once in the 8 years I knew him ever got mad at anyone (that I know of).

Turns out he died on the 23rd, but I didn't hear about it until today.  He worked out for the first time in years, rehabbing from knee surgery, and apparently busted a clot loose.  Just one of those things.

Damn : (
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: QueenThera on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2015, 04:01:37 PM
Had a dream last night.  I went into a machine to repair it.  But when I was done, I had to climb back out, which of course took forever, as the gears I was climbing through had begun moving slowly.  I was being passed down into the machine faster than I climbed out.  Eventually, I was miles underground, still climbing.

Let this be a lesson to you:  Even when you're dreaming, lockout/tagout procedures should be followed.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:55:50 PM
We just got back from taking the dogs for a run on the beach. It's snowing. It was idyllic as fuck, and also super gross and cold and fun.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: QueenThera on December 28, 2015, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Sorry about that. I misread the parameters of acceptable discussion in this forum. I figured orgasm mention meant that other things were allowable. I was wrong.

It's been a weird and heady mix for me recently, of euphoria and anxiety, of pride and pain. I think I'm falling in love, or am in a temporary puppy love state.

But, well, thank you for your concern for her. I was planning to just randomly vent and never talk about it ever again.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 28, 2015, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Sorry about that. I misread the parameters of acceptable discussion in this forum. I figured orgasm mention meant that other things were allowable. I was wrong.

It's been a weird and heady mix for me recently, of euphoria and anxiety, of pride and pain. I think I'm falling in love, or am in a temporary puppy love state.

But, well, thank you for your concern for her. I was planning to just randomly vent and never talk about it ever again.

Oh, anything's acceptable, really. Just, you know, socially speaking, pointless personal details of your dick's penetration of your girlfriend are pointless, gratuitous TMI and mostly seem like you're taking an opportunity to tell us details about your genitals and sex life for no real reason.

If you make it funny, though, there's a point and it's fine. But you probably wouldn't walk into a conversation where people are discussing sex in broad terms and be all, "HEY MY DICK HAS SCABS ON IT FROM FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND FOR TWO HOURS BUT SHE REALLY LIKED IT". I mean, at least I hope you wouldn't.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on December 28, 2015, 05:57:24 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 28, 2015, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Sorry about that. I misread the parameters of acceptable discussion in this forum. I figured orgasm mention meant that other things were allowable. I was wrong.

It's been a weird and heady mix for me recently, of euphoria and anxiety, of pride and pain. I think I'm falling in love, or am in a temporary puppy love state.

But, well, thank you for your concern for her. I was planning to just randomly vent and never talk about it ever again.

Oh, anything's acceptable, really. Just, you know, socially speaking, pointless personal details of your dick's penetration of your girlfriend are pointless, gratuitous TMI and mostly seem like you're taking an opportunity to tell us details about your genitals and sex life for no real reason.

If you make it funny, though, there's a point and it's fine. But you probably wouldn't walk into a conversation where people are discussing sex in broad terms and be all, "HEY MY DICK HAS SCABS ON IT FROM FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND FOR TWO HOURS BUT SHE REALLY LIKED IT". I mean, at least I hope you wouldn't.

FUCK YUO NIGEL MY MOTHER DIED FROM SCABS ON HER DICK
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: QueenThera on December 28, 2015, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 28, 2015, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Sorry about that. I misread the parameters of acceptable discussion in this forum. I figured orgasm mention meant that other things were allowable. I was wrong.

It's been a weird and heady mix for me recently, of euphoria and anxiety, of pride and pain. I think I'm falling in love, or am in a temporary puppy love state.

But, well, thank you for your concern for her. I was planning to just randomly vent and never talk about it ever again.

Oh, anything's acceptable, really. Just, you know, socially speaking, pointless personal details of your dick's penetration of your girlfriend are pointless, gratuitous TMI and mostly seem like you're taking an opportunity to tell us details about your genitals and sex life for no real reason.

If you make it funny, though, there's a point and it's fine. But you probably wouldn't walk into a conversation where people are discussing sex in broad terms and be all, "HEY MY DICK HAS SCABS ON IT FROM FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND FOR TWO HOURS BUT SHE REALLY LIKED IT". I mean, at least I hope you wouldn't.
I hope I wouldn't either. I am awkward as fuck, though. :lulz:

I've said worse things in real life.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2015, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: Nast on December 28, 2015, 05:57:24 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 28, 2015, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Sorry about that. I misread the parameters of acceptable discussion in this forum. I figured orgasm mention meant that other things were allowable. I was wrong.

It's been a weird and heady mix for me recently, of euphoria and anxiety, of pride and pain. I think I'm falling in love, or am in a temporary puppy love state.

But, well, thank you for your concern for her. I was planning to just randomly vent and never talk about it ever again.

Oh, anything's acceptable, really. Just, you know, socially speaking, pointless personal details of your dick's penetration of your girlfriend are pointless, gratuitous TMI and mostly seem like you're taking an opportunity to tell us details about your genitals and sex life for no real reason.

If you make it funny, though, there's a point and it's fine. But you probably wouldn't walk into a conversation where people are discussing sex in broad terms and be all, "HEY MY DICK HAS SCABS ON IT FROM FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND FOR TWO HOURS BUT SHE REALLY LIKED IT". I mean, at least I hope you wouldn't.

FUCK YUO NIGEL MY MOTHER DIED FROM SCABS ON HER DICK

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 28, 2015, 08:58:21 PM
:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pergamos on December 29, 2015, 05:30:29 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 28, 2015, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Sorry about that. I misread the parameters of acceptable discussion in this forum. I figured orgasm mention meant that other things were allowable. I was wrong.

It's been a weird and heady mix for me recently, of euphoria and anxiety, of pride and pain. I think I'm falling in love, or am in a temporary puppy love state.

But, well, thank you for your concern for her. I was planning to just randomly vent and never talk about it ever again.

Oh, anything's acceptable, really. Just, you know, socially speaking, pointless personal details of your dick's penetration of your girlfriend are pointless, gratuitous TMI and mostly seem like you're taking an opportunity to tell us details about your genitals and sex life for no real reason.

If you make it funny, though, there's a point and it's fine. But you probably wouldn't walk into a conversation where people are discussing sex in broad terms and be all, "HEY MY DICK HAS SCABS ON IT FROM FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND FOR TWO HOURS BUT SHE REALLY LIKED IT". I mean, at least I hope you wouldn't.

Depends on your social circle.  "My girlfriend always gets tired of it by the time I can come" has always been an acceptable topic in my circle.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pergamos on December 29, 2015, 05:35:21 AM
So I went to get my ID and failed, since I need to bring my birth certificate.  Now I am drunk on Whiskey and enjoying it. Happy not quite New Years everyone.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 29, 2015, 09:46:16 AM
20 days to live life.

What do?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on December 29, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
As in bucket list or holidays?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on December 29, 2015, 06:24:54 PM
This morning I noticed I was down to 2 Benadryl.  Still groggy, and trying to get some sleep, I told myself not to worry about it, I'd just go into creative mode and get a stack of bottles.

And then I realized this is real life, not Minecraft.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 29, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on December 29, 2015, 05:30:29 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 28, 2015, 01:44:52 AM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 28, 2015, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 27, 2015, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 27, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 26, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on December 25, 2015, 10:55:47 PM
Sex. What the fuck is up with it?

Like, seriously. I'm having fun with it, with my Rockfriend, and yet...

I'm not accomplishing what I'm expected to do.

What. The. Fuck.

She's not having orgasms?

She needs to figure out that orgasms are taken, not given. She has to step up to the plate, use her hands, give you directions, etc.

It's a harder thing for some women to figure out than others, especially if they are not frequent masturbators, but it's definitely in her best interest to work that out.
Would you believe that my problem was literally the opposite? I managed to finally overcome that obstacle last night.

Now the only problem is the chafing that has built up over the hours spent pounding away to her great pleasure!

TMI, dude. TMI.
Sorry about that. I misread the parameters of acceptable discussion in this forum. I figured orgasm mention meant that other things were allowable. I was wrong.

It's been a weird and heady mix for me recently, of euphoria and anxiety, of pride and pain. I think I'm falling in love, or am in a temporary puppy love state.

But, well, thank you for your concern for her. I was planning to just randomly vent and never talk about it ever again.

Oh, anything's acceptable, really. Just, you know, socially speaking, pointless personal details of your dick's penetration of your girlfriend are pointless, gratuitous TMI and mostly seem like you're taking an opportunity to tell us details about your genitals and sex life for no real reason.

If you make it funny, though, there's a point and it's fine. But you probably wouldn't walk into a conversation where people are discussing sex in broad terms and be all, "HEY MY DICK HAS SCABS ON IT FROM FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND FOR TWO HOURS BUT SHE REALLY LIKED IT". I mean, at least I hope you wouldn't.

Depends on your social circle.  "My girlfriend always gets tired of it by the time I can come" has always been an acceptable topic in my circle.

All I really have to say to that is "know your audience".

Context is everything.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 29, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
In my social circle, even mentioning you have a significant other is off limits.  Let alone what gender they are. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 29, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Check your significant other privilege, spaglord.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on December 29, 2015, 09:27:21 PM
My circle is square
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Mzv4evcCh2hkA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2015, 01:15:43 AM
In my social circles the only acceptable form of communication is slowly sipping your whiskey and staring grimly into the distance.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: QueenThera on December 30, 2015, 02:35:00 AM
In my social circles, you must offer up one item of blackmail material (minimum) to gain entrance, in addition to demonstrating one obsessive interest with a universe of your own devising.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on December 30, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 29, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
As in bucket list or holidays?

A spiritual bucket list to be my chaotic, nihilistic, assholey self, before I go and get values like loyalty, honor, and honesty installed in my hard drive.

20 days till basic training. I know it won't change who I am completely, but it's going to change some of my core values so I want to give this me a good send off, before a better person steps up and takes his place.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 30, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 29, 2015, 09:46:16 AM
20 days to live life.

What do?
Quote from: Meunster on December 30, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 29, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
As in bucket list or holidays?

A spiritual bucket list to be my chaotic, nihilistic, assholey self, before I go and get values like loyalty, honor, and honesty installed in my hard drive.

20 days till basic training. I know it won't change who I am completely, but it's going to change some of my core values so I want to give this me a good send off, before a better person steps up and takes his place.

Be compassionate to others, leave a place or person better than when you found it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 30, 2015, 09:38:07 PM
In my social circles, we do nothing.  Because we all froze to death.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 30, 2015, 09:39:30 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 30, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 29, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
As in bucket list or holidays?

A spiritual bucket list to be my chaotic, nihilistic, assholey self, before I go and get values like loyalty, honor, and honesty installed in my hard drive.

20 days till basic training. I know it won't change who I am completely, but it's going to change some of my core values so I want to give this me a good send off, before a better person steps up and takes his place.

It will change who you are more than you think, if you stick it out.  Not because it changes your methods of approaching things, but because your priorities change entirely.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 01:17:13 AM
I am in the mood for some alien abduction.

I'm gonna grab one of those little grey freaks and give it a probin'.

That's right, fuckers.  I have your "galactic space brotherhood" right here.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 31, 2015, 01:58:26 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2015, 01:15:43 AM
In my social circles the only acceptable form of communication is slowly sipping your whiskey and staring grimly into the distance.

:fap:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 03:43:19 PM
Got up the mountain this morning.  Everyone's still frozen stiff.  Am ordering spacesuits for the crew.

We are down to eating the sled dogs.  If this journal is found, please tell my family that science is a trick on White people, and that the Nation has been laughing at us since 1958.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 31, 2015, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 03:43:19 PM
Got up the mountain this morning.  Everyone's still frozen stiff.  Am ordering spacesuits for the crew.

We are down to eating the sled dogs.  If this journal is found, please tell my family that science is a trick on White people, and that the Nation has been laughing at us since 1958.

You really should have armed them with tanks when you had the chance. They may have made it quicker.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 04:48:50 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 31, 2015, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 03:43:19 PM
Got up the mountain this morning.  Everyone's still frozen stiff.  Am ordering spacesuits for the crew.

We are down to eating the sled dogs.  If this journal is found, please tell my family that science is a trick on White people, and that the Nation has been laughing at us since 1958.

You really should have armed them with tanks when you had the chance. They may have made it quicker.

No, no, the one thing the Nation agrees on is that they do love their jokes.  From the maintenance bays, I can see Baboquivari Peak, and when things are quiet, I can hear I'itoli laughing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 05:18:42 PM
Anyway, Zenpatista is supposed to get here in a couple of hours.  I'll be giving him and his offspring a tour of the joint.  I'll be using an SUV out of the motor pool, on account of I don't want them turning blue from anoxia walking up to the 4 meter dome.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 05:35:53 PM
It's worth noting that on July 12,2008, the EISCAT high powered space transmitter on Svalbard used its array of radars to send a Doritos ad to a solar system 42 light years away.  So, when people talk about getting rid of the NES and the NSF and then funding science privately, just remind them that in 2050, some aliens are going to feel very, very let down over the whole "first contact" thing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 31, 2015, 05:40:36 PM
To be honest, if I was sent to Svalbard for my job, I'd want to fuck over the rest of humanity and another sentient species entirely into the bargain.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 31, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 31, 2015, 05:40:36 PM
To be honest, if I was sent to Svalbard for my job, I'd want to fuck over the rest of humanity and another sentient species entirely into the bargain.

I concur, and where I am is nowhere near as bad.

Thing that makes me laugh is that the old expression, "It is suicidal to yell in the jungle" is now obsolete, on account of we're walking through said jungle with a boom box on our shoulder, blasting out ads for inedible shit in air-packed bags.

We're just asking for it, really.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 31, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 30, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 29, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
As in bucket list or holidays?

A spiritual bucket list to be my chaotic, nihilistic, assholey self, before I go and get values like loyalty, honor, and honesty installed in my hard drive.

20 days till basic training. I know it won't change who I am completely, but it's going to change some of my core values so I want to give this me a good send off, before a better person steps up and takes his place.

Good luck with that, I hope it teaches you how to accomplish what you want to accomplish and how to become the person you want to become.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 31, 2015, 07:54:52 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 31, 2015, 01:58:26 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 30, 2015, 01:15:43 AM
In my social circles the only acceptable form of communication is slowly sipping your whiskey and staring grimly into the distance.

:fap:

It's definitely working for us.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 31, 2015, 07:56:06 PM
I'm supposed to be getting paid for writing stuff, so I should be writing. Instead, I'm eating cheese and procrastinating going to the bathroom.

Ahhhh, winter break!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on December 31, 2015, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Wet mop not required on December 31, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 31, 2015, 05:40:36 PM
To be honest, if I was sent to Svalbard for my job, I'd want to fuck over the rest of humanity and another sentient species entirely into the bargain.

I concur, and where I am is nowhere near as bad.

Thing that makes me laugh is that the old expression, "It is suicidal to yell in the jungle" is now obsolete, on account of we're walking through said jungle with a boom box on our shoulder, blasting out ads for inedible shit in air-packed bags.

We're just asking for it, really.

It'll be alright.

When they invade and realize they'll be fighting a military that has willing given weapons to Meunster, they will reconsider.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on December 31, 2015, 11:19:41 PM
OSNAP
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 01, 2016, 12:31:06 AM
If anyone's super bored and staying in this New Year's Eve, I threw up six new videos on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/user/scarabandaris/videos).  Also starting recording my Requiem playthrough tonight...videos should start appearing from tomorrow sometimes.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 01, 2016, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 31, 2015, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Wet mop not required on December 31, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 31, 2015, 05:40:36 PM
To be honest, if I was sent to Svalbard for my job, I'd want to fuck over the rest of humanity and another sentient species entirely into the bargain.

I concur, and where I am is nowhere near as bad.

Thing that makes me laugh is that the old expression, "It is suicidal to yell in the jungle" is now obsolete, on account of we're walking through said jungle with a boom box on our shoulder, blasting out ads for inedible shit in air-packed bags.

We're just asking for it, really.

It'll be alright.

When they invade and realize they'll be fighting a military that has willing given weapons to Meunster, they will reconsider.

:lulz:
A superpower's got to keep the other nations on their toes, but at what price? Weaponized Meunster is both cheap and effective!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on January 01, 2016, 07:12:54 PM
Well, I going in for more of a paper work job, but letting me into a beuracracy is probably just as terrifying.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 12:52:00 AM
Alright, started the Requiem playthrough.  Finally overcome my inertia and done some recording.  Just an intro up for now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV16s5VyeR8), but more on the way.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 12:44:15 PM
Shop talk from the office: a student who has been staying here for the last 3 months had a persecutory/somatic psychotic break in front of arriving students and parents. Was convinced someone was performing surgery on him in his room at night. Luckily it occured during a shift change, so two members of staff were present, but this is yet another case where someone's medical condition has not been disclosed to us while putting them under our care. It's also at least the 6th student in the last 12 months with serious mental health concerns.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 02, 2016, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 02, 2016, 12:44:15 PM
Shop talk from the office: a student who has been staying here for the last 3 months had a persecutory/somatic psychotic break in front of arriving students and parents. Was convinced someone was performing surgery on him in his room at night. Luckily it occured during a shift change, so two members of staff were present, but this is yet another case where someone's medical condition has not been disclosed to us while putting them under our care. It's also at least the 6th student in the last 12 months with serious mental health concerns.

Isn't that illegal?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 02, 2016, 05:13:11 PM
Not telling staff about a student's serious mental illness issues, I m ean?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 05:19:28 PM
Possibly.  The colleges will no doubt claim since all our students are of adult age (they stick them in here as soon as they turn 18.  As in, on their birthday) and that they (most likely) advertise the building as independent accommodation, that the students in question are not strictly speaking under our direct care, and thus it would be a violation of their privacy to inform us of their medical conditions.  This is ridiculous on a number of levels, not least that I'm the designated first aider on my shift and thus I should know simply for the purposes of emergency treatment about ongoing medical conditions.

The colleges may also claim they were not informed by the student or their parents.  This is occasionally the case, with certain cultures and individuals, but if they are being treated in the UK, the chance that the college doesn't know about it (because of the impact it would have on their studies) is perishingly low.

Furthermore, it's a matter of record, from our line manager, that we are "House Parents" to all students in this building, and thus have a duty of care.

I know for certain that we had a student somewhere on the autistic spectrum, which the college was aware of, but they did not inform us.  So I wouldn't be surprised if they neglected to inform us of many, many other things we should know.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
I know when I was House Master, in Switzerland, my assistants were not informed of any specific diagnosis of the students, beyond allergies.

However, I made sure that they were to inform me ASAP if certain students displayed certain symptoms.  None of my assistant HPs were idiots, so that was as good as telling them, in some cases, but ensured their care was being prioritised.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 02, 2016, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 02, 2016, 05:19:28 PM
Possibly.  The colleges will no doubt claim since all our students are of adult age (they stick them in here as soon as they turn 18.  As in, on their birthday) and that they (most likely) advertise the building as independent accommodation, that the students in question are not strictly speaking under our direct care, and thus it would be a violation of their privacy to inform us of their medical conditions.  This is ridiculous on a number of levels, not least that I'm the designated first aider on my shift and thus I should know simply for the purposes of emergency treatment about ongoing medical conditions.

The colleges may also claim they were not informed by the student or their parents.  This is occasionally the case, with certain cultures and individuals, but if they are being treated in the UK, the chance that the college doesn't know about it (because of the impact it would have on their studies) is perishingly low.

Furthermore, it's a matter of record, from our line manager, that we are "House Parents" to all students in this building, and thus have a duty of care.

I know for certain that we had a student somewhere on the autistic spectrum, which the college was aware of, but they did not inform us.  So I wouldn't be surprised if they neglected to inform us of many, many other things we should know.

Oh, christ. Wow. Your employer sounds like a... remarkable... establishment. To say the least.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 06:34:04 PM
Oh yes, well generally they are.

However, strictly speaking, these aren't the people who pay my bills.  At least, not directly.  In essence, you have the company which hired me.  They run one college, for students of actual school age.  They pay my bills, have the contract for the building, provide the cleaning staff and management etc.

But then you have their parent company, the larger, educational group.  They own two other colleges, for university age students.  It's those two colleges which failed to relay the information on, to the best of my knowledge (it's also possible they told our management, since we are not trusted to have any contact with those colleges, and our management failed to pass it on.  More likely it's just the colleges themselves, but it's something I cannot rule out).

My employer...I can access certain amounts of information via our internal network.  A good 90% of the time I don't have permission to access student medical information, but I see the nurse often enough that if something comes up, we can share information.  With the others, though....nothing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 03, 2016, 01:59:25 AM
Installed an ass sprayer on the toilet today, and how my cooter's so clean you could serve hors d'ouvres on it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on January 05, 2016, 03:44:23 AM
Welp 4chan colony 404'd from bump limit.

Time to make a new thread. Any helpful links you guys would reccomend?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 05, 2016, 09:52:49 AM
Quote from: Meunster on January 05, 2016, 03:44:23 AM
Welp 4chan colony 404'd from bump limit.

Time to make a new thread. Any helpful links you guys would reccomend?

Here's a pretty complete (I think?) collection of Discordian works: http://nmrk2359.wix.com/dolmmm#!links_to_books/c23m4 (http://nmrk2359.wix.com/dolmmm#!links_to_books/c23m4)



Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2016, 08:59:32 PM
I've been shitty about uploading videos.  So two Skyrim videos tonight, nearly 2 hours worth, are on their way.  More will be recorded, though I might save some to put up later, since I'm at work the next 3 nights...

Edit: Part 1 up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IavuWg2qZZI).  Watch me get gloriously felled in one swoop by a Stormcloak noob, and be over-encumbered all the time.

Edit again: Part 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JtJqJJPurc), also.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 04:31:41 PM
Back to work tonight.

Brace yourself for a shitstorm of stupidity (them) and profanity (me).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 06, 2016, 04:36:27 PM
Eagerly awaiting your missives.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 04:37:57 PM
May take some time, as I'm the only person on shift tonight.  And tomorrow night.  Basically the whole month, I'm working on my own, at night.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 06, 2016, 05:11:38 PM
Management is on the ball as ever, I see.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 06:12:49 PM
Well, 50% of the department did quit last month.

But, of course, they did nothing in the meantime to try and fill the massive holes in the shift rota.  In fact, the senior manager was already on holiday by that point, and my supervisor went on leave shortly after, and won't be back until Friday (how convenient).  It's amazing, how management are always on holiday at the start and the end of term. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 06, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Do they hire management staff from Roger's old job or something?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 07:52:31 PM
Hah, that would imply they hire people here.  They just shift their duties onto another, already existing member of staff.

Incidentally, 40 minutes in: arrival that we have no paperwork for.  Her paperwork is all correct, but I wasn't given arrival details or a room for her to go in.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 08:51:56 PM
No paperwork or access card for student who has been here all day.  Had to induct her myself while leaving the reception unattended.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 08:57:10 PM
Just had 3 students leave via the gate exit, which is only for emergencies.  Can't go after them as I'm stuck in reception.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 10:37:49 PM
Two unexpected arrivals.  No paperwork for either, except the confirmation letters from the college.

Student locked out of her room due to the lock battery dying.  Someone has taken the key for the room where we store the batteries.  Had to steal half a dozen batteries from unoccupied rooms until I found a working one...then I had to call out maintenance anyway because I didnt have the tools to get the lock mechanism open.

Someone blew all the fuses in their room.

Half the paperwork has incorrect information or is out of date.

I've spent more time running around the building than I have in the office thus far.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: axod on January 06, 2016, 11:23:20 PM
Got a new car battery and drove to work through sheets of torrential rain.  Forgot about how the radio was not working, because system reset.  Suddenly, it appears the only road/drive to destination is shut down due to flooding.  I pull my window down to enquire when access may be expected again.  Bad move.  Vehicle decides it must be in the shop or something and refuses to raise driver side window again.  Me now very wet.  Oh, and then, back at the garage, it decides it's cool to let me put the window back up again.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2016, 11:30:27 PM
Holy fucking shit.

If every night is going to be like this, then I'm going to quit.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2016, 01:25:50 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 06, 2016, 10:37:49 PM
Two unexpected arrivals.  No paperwork for either, except the confirmation letters from the college.

Student locked out of her room due to the lock battery dying.  Someone has taken the key for the room where we store the batteries.  Had to steal half a dozen batteries from unoccupied rooms until I found a working one...then I had to call out maintenance anyway because I didnt have the tools to get the lock mechanism open.

Someone blew all the fuses in their room.

Half the paperwork has incorrect information or is out of date.

I've spent more time running around the building than I have in the office thus far.


Jesus F Christ.  :lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz: :horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2016, 01:28:54 AM
My only adventure today is that nobody ever showed up to let me into the lab, and my neurophysiology professor for some reason only uses his own website, not D2L, so I found out today that I am, indeed, supposed to have a textbook for this class. Not a big deal, it's a $90 textbook but I can rent it for $20. BUT WAIT, my debit card expires 1/31/2016, and for reasons unknown, Amazon interprets that as expiring on the FIRST DAY of January. My bank doesn't think it expires until the END of January, so I haven't received a replacement yet.

No textbook for me.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2016, 01:30:43 AM
My new laptop is out for delivery. I want to go get pizza and wine, but I can't until they deliver my laptop.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2016, 01:44:00 AM
Surely in the Land Of Opportunity there is a pizza and wine delivery service? 

I just sent two emails to my bosses.  First was detailing how our new (lack of a) sign in system means it's impossible to do our jobs and makes us do even more work, and how being understaffed is going to fucking kill us all.

I then sent a second email to my boss detailing the night I had and telling him if I have to put up with this for a month I'm going to end up being burnt out.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 07, 2016, 05:45:25 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2016, 01:44:00 AM
Surely in the Land Of Opportunity there is a pizza and wine delivery service? 

I just sent two emails to my bosses.  First was detailing how our new (lack of a) sign in system means it's impossible to do our jobs and makes us do even more work, and how being understaffed is going to fucking kill us all.

I then sent a second email to my boss detailing the night I had and telling him if I have to put up with this for a month I'm going to end up being burnt out.

Not at college student prices! Papa Murphy's Take & Bake had a 50% off code so I got 2 family-size pizzas for $13, and Whole Foods has $3 chardonnay. Living large up in here. And my computer came.

Do you think they'll care about the emails at all? Or just blow you off?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2016, 05:16:52 PM
I did consider that, though I also wondered if America had some weird law about takeaway alcohol.  I think certain Swiss canton do, so it wouldn't entirely surprise me.

I doubt I'll get listened to.  I believe other staff have also voiced similar concerns.  However, when I'm literally too burnt out to work, I'll at least have covered myself.  In numerous ways actually, since I also mentioned not getting a good nights sleep at the front of the building. 

The whole company is possibly falling apart though.  Lots of resignations at the senior level.  Might not even be an issue in 6 months time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
Requiem adventures part 3 is up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOn5A7WgFuk).  We kill things in this video.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2016, 07:28:28 PM
So, amazingly, my boss's boss would like to have a meeting.

Maybe he's just panicking though, because he now has 3 staff left here and none of them are feeling so great.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 07, 2016, 07:58:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
Requiem adventures part 3 is up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOn5A7WgFuk).  We kill things in this video.

Incidentally, I've been watching these when I work from home.  Just so you know someone's watching.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2016, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 07, 2016, 07:58:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
Requiem adventures part 3 is up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOn5A7WgFuk).  We kill things in this video.

Incidentally, I've been watching these when I work from home.  Just so you know someone's watching.

Thanks.  Always feel free to leave a comment on the video, if you want.

Unfortunately, I didn't record as many videos as I wanted the other day, so there won't be any updates until at least Saturday, possibly Sunday.  But I'll try and record plenty more this time, so there's at least one episode for each day I'm working.

It'll also be slow in the start, because we can't do fun stuff without getting rekt.  Mages College quests scale in difficulty very quickly...the first quest is a draugr crypt (moderately hard), the second is a lot of neromancers and conjurers (much harder...they keep resurrecting each other), the third is a Dwemer ruin (legit scary) and the finale is....well, it's the single most dangerous ruin in the game, and probably in the top 3 scariest locations in Requiem.

So before that we're going to do some mercenary work.  Wander the land.  Make some money.  Kill bandits.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 07, 2016, 08:46:16 PM
I kind of like in the mines, you set a bandit on fire, and they're all, "You'll pay for that!" rather than "HOLY FUCKING SHIT I'M ON FIRE PUTITPUT PUTITOUTPUTITOUT"
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2016, 08:55:23 PM
It's even funnier when you're taking off their heads and they yell "is that all you've got?" or similar.

Bandits: not very smart.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on January 08, 2016, 06:10:59 AM
Stephan universe fandom is at it agian.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 08, 2016, 07:47:41 PM
Quote from:  Cain, from the original FB So, I see I have been shortlisted for an internal job interview.

The day after I finish 3 nights of overnight shifts.

Ah, never change, work.     

It probably won't ever change until the misbegotten sham that is their "business" practices inevitably catch up or a major change of leadership occurs, like probably on an ownership level. Possibly both.

If they offer you a management spot or something go ahead and promise the moon on your ability to implement an effective system with a "reasobably streamlined" workforce. Do not settle for less than, indeed demand, 5 times what you're currently being paid as salary and a performance bonus when you turn things around "after due effort". Feel free to romance them down from there on salary or bonus value, but insist on the promise of such a bonus without setting a concrete time frame if possible. Take a fifth of your new salary and divert it to the purchase of concrete items for supporting your new empire and it's employees/serfs/Standard Operating Procedure agreement contract signatories.

Should you somehow fail to impress or by some twist meet with outright failures, or they be cheapskates, the bonus being removed should act as a sandbag against getting canned outright in the event of the worst.

I know you absolutely don't require my advisement, but I thought I'd share my musings anyway and wish you well whatever the actual outcome. Then it ran a bit long for FB so I brought it here.

Cheers and good fortune sir!

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Sung Low on January 08, 2016, 09:26:19 PM
Yo Joseph! The mansplaining thread is relevant.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 08, 2016, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: Sung Low on January 08, 2016, 09:26:19 PM
Yo Joseph! The mansplaining thread is relevant.

I haven't dug into it yet. Guessing I ought to.  :?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 08, 2016, 07:47:41 PM
Quote from:  Cain, from the original FB So, I see I have been shortlisted for an internal job interview.

The day after I finish 3 nights of overnight shifts.

Ah, never change, work.     

It probably won't ever change until the misbegotten sham that is their "business" practices inevitably catch up or a major change of leadership occurs, like probably on an ownership level. Possibly both.

If they offer you a management spot or something go ahead and promise the moon on your ability to implement an effective system with a "reasobably streamlined" workforce. Do not settle for less than, indeed demand, 5 times what you're currently being paid as salary and a performance bonus when you turn things around "after due effort". Feel free to romance them down from there on salary or bonus value, but insist on the promise of such a bonus without setting a concrete time frame if possible. Take a fifth of your new salary and divert it to the purchase of concrete items for supporting your new empire and it's employees/serfs/Standard Operating Procedure agreement contract signatories.

Should you somehow fail to impress or by some twist meet with outright failures, or they be cheapskates, the bonus being removed should act as a sandbag against getting canned outright in the event of the worst.

I know you absolutely don't require my advisement, but I thought I'd share my musings anyway and wish you well whatever the actual outcome. Then it ran a bit long for FB so I brought it here.

Cheers and good fortune sir!

Oh, they have no plans to bump me up to management, not now or ever.

I'm already more qualified (academically) and more experienced (in a boarding environment) than my boss, or his boss.

As it is, I'll take the shift supervisor role, or a role with another company, until I dissertate, then I'll split.

Incidentally, Requiem video 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuVBNE5i9Gk) is up.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2016, 02:03:18 AM
I'll only be putting up one video a day, so you wont see these for a couple of days yet...but damn there are some good videos coming up.  Actual fights against multiple human enemies, almost freezing to death, a suicide bomber ghost wolf, decent treasure....all this and more await.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on January 11, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
You have a very relaxing voice
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2016, 02:40:33 PM
Thanks.  I won't be relaxed in the next episode, though (the one after today's, which just went up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RP-czj_eFM)).  Or indeed the one I'm just about to record.  There will be frustration and pain.  Also possibly running away and crying.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
And...episode 6 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_uul3CWJE).  In which we achieve ULTIMATE POWAH (not really). 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 12, 2016, 06:27:46 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 11, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
You have a very relaxing voice

It really is incredibly soothing. Sometimes I put his videos on just to listen to it, even with no idea what's going on in the game.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
You should check out the videos of CaptBrryCrunch, who has commented on some of my videos.

He has a very relaxing voice too (different accent).  He can also run Skyrim in 60 FPS with an ENB, not that I'm jealous or anything (I may actually experiment with an ENB after episode 10 or so...I have a couple of candidates.  Will still be 30 FPS, because lolcomputer).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2016, 08:31:55 PM
In other news...my heavy duty flashlight and sprayable marking ink have finally arrived.

Yup, working alone on nightshift means I have reached the point where I think having weapons is a good idea.  Since pepper spray is banned in the UK, I've opted for spray which dyes the attacks skin for a few days...rendering them very identifiable.  And a heavy torch is always a comfort....especially when it's extendable, and shaped like a club.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 12, 2016, 08:53:21 PM
I have been enjoying your videos too, Cain. 

Seeing Skyrim played with so many mods is interesting and I like the roleplay aspect you bring to it - particularly when going through dialogue trees.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2016, 09:40:55 PM
Thanks!  Since Requiem is a roleplay overhaul, I'm trying to keep in character and not metagame too much (it's kinda unavoidable at low levels, just to survive). 

Hopefully, when I do the nightblade playthrough, whenever 2.0 drops (it may be a while...), I'll be able to do more.  Because that will involve being a much darker sort of character, a thief and an assassin who will do the sort of things my current character would not.  Like, for example, becoming a vampire, which Requiem overhauls significantly.  It'll also open up more quest options, especially with the daedric princes, as our current character, despite being Telvanni and a mercenary, is not entirely without conscience.  In fact, Boethiah's quest will be quite the dilemma, since we're not a complete bastard, but the Prince of Plots is the patron of the Dunmer race....not to mention that the newest version of Complete Crafting Overhaul (and its Requiem patch) allows the quite formidable Ebony Mail to be reforged as an Evasion armour....the enchantments are significantly improved from vanilla, enough to make it quite viable for a wider variety of characters... 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2016, 05:53:06 AM
Fans of drama on my Facebook are in for a treat today.

You thought the Lys stuff was over the top?  Hah, just you wait.  It's still going, btw.  6 hours later.   :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2016, 01:05:25 PM
Is this the "ISIS targets German tourists" post?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 13, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?

If you are thought to be carrying it about with intent to use as a weapon then yes, I think they are...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2016, 01:57:29 PM
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/61/23/66/61236602084f53eb7da3571b66c7ecb4.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2016, 03:49:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 13, 2016, 01:05:25 PM
Is this the "ISIS targets German tourists" post?

Yes

Quote from: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?

Yes

Quote from: Xaz on January 13, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?

If you are thought to be carrying it about with intent to use as a weapon then yes, I think they are...

Pretty much, yes.

Of course, I have a certain amount of leeway, because I live here and work here, and so I can carry things that might otherwise look suspicious on the streets.  Pepper spray is specifically banned however due to the Firearms Act ("A person commits an offence if [...] he has in his possession [...] any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing.").  The laws on this vary pretty widely in Europe, too.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2016, 08:01:40 PM
And next part (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egESJNNC2zc).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on January 13, 2016, 09:37:16 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 13, 2016, 01:57:29 PM
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/61/23/66/61236602084f53eb7da3571b66c7ecb4.jpg)

Common misconception. This is for the unruly classes.

Gentlemen tend to train in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartitsu

The ancient art of beating the shit out of folk with a Pimp Walking stick.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
A walking stick would've been super helpful last month, when I crippled my knee.

Here is an abridged email conversation between my boss and myself:

Me: my co-workers are retarded and lazy.
Boss: I know
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on January 14, 2016, 12:22:11 AM
Listening to the soundtrack of the Hamilton musical on repeat for days now. Highly recommend to all. It's a brilliant, largely hip-hop, retelling of Alexander Hamilton's life.

It's on Spotify, but here's a cabinet meeting on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm4lPfzjrRw
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on January 14, 2016, 12:23:27 AM
Also amazing to see people freaking out over people of colour playing white people. It's ANARCHY.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2016, 01:06:09 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 13, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
A walking stick would've been super helpful last month, when I crippled my knee.

Here is an abridged email conversation between my boss and myself:

Me: my co-workers are retarded and lazy.
Boss: I know

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2016, 01:08:41 AM
I have bronchitis, and a physics lab report to write. This should be fun.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on January 14, 2016, 08:10:22 AM
Quote from: Xaz on January 13, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?

If you are thought to be carrying it about with intent to use as a weapon then yes, I think they are...

What's next? no closed fists. You might be preparing to hit someone.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on January 14, 2016, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: Meunster on January 14, 2016, 08:10:22 AM
Quote from: Xaz on January 13, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?

If you are thought to be carrying it about with intent to use as a weapon then yes, I think they are...

What's next? no closed fists. You might be preparing to hit someone.
I know its hard to put it in context when you live in a place that cant go three months without a school shooting, that pepper spray will seem quite a tame thing to ban in comparison, but it doesn't have any public uses other then assault, and self defence.

There is an argument to use it for self defence but its proven very ineffective in this regards as such it remains banned in most EU states.
Security guards can be licensed for it, police have it as standard I think so its not like its completely unused, just restricted to the public.

Same deal with tasers in most of the EU, oddly even more ineffective then pepper spray, and much more fatal then most people realise.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 14, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
I just booked flights to NOLA for Jazzfest this spring.


I may not have won the lottery, but I am still incredibly happy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 14, 2016, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 14, 2016, 08:10:22 AM
Quote from: Xaz on January 13, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?

If you are thought to be carrying it about with intent to use as a weapon then yes, I think they are...

What's next? no closed fists. You might be preparing to hit someone.
The Brits don't need pepper spray with such an abundance of billiard balls and tube socks.

That and Junkenstein's ancestral crowbar.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2016, 04:45:26 PM
So, after the shitfest on FB, I thought I'd share this for some laughs:

http://www.thelocal.de/20160113/crime-rates-different-north-africa-syria-migrants

QuoteA study begun by Cologne police in 2014 which looked at which refugees committed a crime within a year of their arrival showed stark variations from between different countries of origin.

Whereas only 0.5 percent of Syrians were suspected of a crime within 12 months of their arrival, 40 percent of those coming from the Maghreb got into trouble with police.

Only asylum seekers from the Balkan region were as likely to have broken the law in equivalent numbers.

As you may remember, the tard was angling for all Muslim (men) to be deported.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on January 15, 2016, 05:06:37 AM
Quote from: Faust on January 14, 2016, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: Meunster on January 14, 2016, 08:10:22 AM
Quote from: Xaz on January 13, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 13, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Wait. Pepper spray is banned in the uk?

What are pointy sticks banned too?

If you are thought to be carrying it about with intent to use as a weapon then yes, I think they are...

What's next? no closed fists. You might be preparing to hit someone.
I know its hard to put it in context when you live in a place that cant go three months without a school shooting
Shots fired! Only not, because of sensible policy.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2016, 06:24:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2016, 04:45:26 PM
So, after the shitfest on FB, I thought I'd share this for some laughs:

http://www.thelocal.de/20160113/crime-rates-different-north-africa-syria-migrants

QuoteA study begun by Cologne police in 2014 which looked at which refugees committed a crime within a year of their arrival showed stark variations from between different countries of origin.

Whereas only 0.5 percent of Syrians were suspected of a crime within 12 months of their arrival, 40 percent of those coming from the Maghreb got into trouble with police.

Only asylum seekers from the Balkan region were as likely to have broken the law in equivalent numbers.

As you may remember, the tard was angling for all Muslim (men) to be deported.

Thank you, Cain! I'm going to need that link.

I missed the shitfest on your page, I got the bronchitis and have been too drugged up.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2016, 06:25:03 AM
Quote from: LMNO on January 14, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
I just booked flights to NOLA for Jazzfest this spring.


I may not have won the lottery, but I am still incredibly happy.

That's awesome!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 15, 2016, 01:32:13 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2016, 06:24:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2016, 04:45:26 PM
So, after the shitfest on FB, I thought I'd share this for some laughs:

http://www.thelocal.de/20160113/crime-rates-different-north-africa-syria-migrants

QuoteA study begun by Cologne police in 2014 which looked at which refugees committed a crime within a year of their arrival showed stark variations from between different countries of origin.

Whereas only 0.5 percent of Syrians were suspected of a crime within 12 months of their arrival, 40 percent of those coming from the Maghreb got into trouble with police.

Only asylum seekers from the Balkan region were as likely to have broken the law in equivalent numbers.

As you may remember, the tard was angling for all Muslim (men) to be deported.

Thank you, Cain! I'm going to need that link.

I missed the shitfest on your page, I got the bronchitis and have been too drugged up.

It was funny, but you didn't really miss out on too much.  It was basically 100+ comments of "no but you're the real Nazi for trivializing the Holocaust" and backpedling/shifting the goalposts about deporting all Muslim men.

I am interested why refugees from those two areas show the most on the police radar.  I can think of a few reasons, mostly relating to the organized crime syndicates in those regions, who likely human traffic people out in return for some drug smuggling on the side.  Once they arrive....well, they're in debt.  Ladies get into the brothels, guys get on the street corners.  But there are likely other causes too.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2016, 03:45:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 15, 2016, 01:32:13 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2016, 06:24:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2016, 04:45:26 PM
So, after the shitfest on FB, I thought I'd share this for some laughs:

http://www.thelocal.de/20160113/crime-rates-different-north-africa-syria-migrants

QuoteA study begun by Cologne police in 2014 which looked at which refugees committed a crime within a year of their arrival showed stark variations from between different countries of origin.

Whereas only 0.5 percent of Syrians were suspected of a crime within 12 months of their arrival, 40 percent of those coming from the Maghreb got into trouble with police.

Only asylum seekers from the Balkan region were as likely to have broken the law in equivalent numbers.

As you may remember, the tard was angling for all Muslim (men) to be deported.

Thank you, Cain! I'm going to need that link.

I missed the shitfest on your page, I got the bronchitis and have been too drugged up.

It was funny, but you didn't really miss out on too much.  It was basically 100+ comments of "no but you're the real Nazi for trivializing the Holocaust" and backpedling/shifting the goalposts about deporting all Muslim men.

I am interested why refugees from those two areas show the most on the police radar.  I can think of a few reasons, mostly relating to the organized crime syndicates in those regions, who likely human traffic people out in return for some drug smuggling on the side.  Once they arrive....well, they're in debt.  Ladies get into the brothels, guys get on the street corners.  But there are likely other causes too.

It is definitely interesting, and if you unpack any more about why the crime rates for those refugees is high I'd love to hear it.

Yesterday I had to explain to a guy that saying that all Muslims are horrible to women is as true as saying that all Christians or all Atheists are horrible to women. I know and work with a lot of Muslims, and they are mostly progressive Muslims who are concerned about social justice, by virtue of their participation in academia... there aren't a lot of socially repressive, misogynistic types in the university system. I work with chemists, biologists, social workers, and engineers who wear a hijab. I work with feminist Muslim men. Saying that it's "built into their culture" is not good enough.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 15, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Nah, you can totally imply half a billion people share a monolithic culture of rape, irrespective of national origins, political ideology etc and purely based on shared religion.  It just makes sense.

It's why everywhere from Kosovo to Kazakhstan to Indonesia is pretty much the same.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2016, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 15, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Nah, you can totally imply half a billion people share a monolithic culture of rape, irrespective of national origins, political ideology etc and purely based on shared religion.  It just makes sense.

It's why everywhere from Kosovo to Kazakhstan to Indonesia is pretty much the same.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2016, 12:31:37 AM
Also, part 8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg_OPpn1eQU) is up.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2016, 08:29:20 PM
Episode 9 hype (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_ucw9pv8I)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Has anyone ever stumbled upon a co-worker living at the office?  I mean an office-office, not a home based thing.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Has anyone ever stumbled upon a co-worker living at the office?  I mean an office-office, not a home based thing.

Never a coworker, but I have known it to happen. Usually temporarily.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 17, 2016, 09:18:55 AM
I've suspected it, but I actually just think my coworkers have no lives and so are happy to come into the office and order kebabs, even when they're on holiday leave.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 17, 2016, 10:30:17 AM
Episode 10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cuZdbMOEN8) with microphone malfunction hype.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on January 17, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Has anyone ever stumbled upon a co-worker living at the office?  I mean an office-office, not a home based thing.

Never a coworker, but I have known it to happen. Usually temporarily.

The man is 67 years old, apparently this has been going on for a few months now according to other people.  I'm a bit torn, it's not my business, but there's something probably going wrong here. 

He added me to facebook a couple days ago and it's filled with drama, so I'm not certain I want any of that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pergamos on January 17, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Has anyone ever stumbled upon a co-worker living at the office?  I mean an office-office, not a home based thing.

Never a coworker, but I have known it to happen. Usually temporarily.

The man is 67 years old, apparently this has been going on for a few months now according to other people.  I'm a bit torn, it's not my business, but there's something probably going wrong here. 

He added me to facebook a couple days ago and it's filled with drama, so I'm not certain I want any of that.

Unless you are prepared to really get terribly involved I think you should let it be.  Involving higher ups or authorities will just result in the poor guy being homeless and blaming you.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on January 17, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 17, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Has anyone ever stumbled upon a co-worker living at the office?  I mean an office-office, not a home based thing.

Never a coworker, but I have known it to happen. Usually temporarily.

The man is 67 years old, apparently this has been going on for a few months now according to other people.  I'm a bit torn, it's not my business, but there's something probably going wrong here. 

He added me to facebook a couple days ago and it's filled with drama, so I'm not certain I want any of that.

Unless you are prepared to really get terribly involved I think you should let it be.  Involving higher ups or authorities will just result in the poor guy being homeless and blaming you.

Yeah that's mostly what I'm thinking.  I'd say he's a smart guy and can figure it out, but he's also up there in age and might be losing some reasoning skills.  Facebook drama kinda points to that.

I'm surprised the company hasn't pushed him out yet, they did a mass "hey you need to retire - now" thing thing last year.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 17, 2016, 11:45:23 PM
So I'm not caught up on the thread just yet and haven't really checked much else here for a bit, but I'm going to be back at it @PD more regularly pretty soon.

Posting because FB showed me a comment Cain made on an article about Trump supporters and while I read the article a joke occurred to me and I want only the elite folk here to hear it. It's a bit too obscure for most of FB anyway.

What sound does an Authoritarian Chicken make??

It goes, "cuck-cuck-cuck-ba-Koch."(alternatively ba-cock)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 18, 2016, 05:21:18 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on January 17, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Has anyone ever stumbled upon a co-worker living at the office?  I mean an office-office, not a home based thing.

Never a coworker, but I have known it to happen. Usually temporarily.

The man is 67 years old, apparently this has been going on for a few months now according to other people.  I'm a bit torn, it's not my business, but there's something probably going wrong here. 

He added me to facebook a couple days ago and it's filled with drama, so I'm not certain I want any of that.

Oh yeah, runnnnnnnn.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
Well, it looks like I got promoted.

An extra few thousand pounds and all the bullshit I can swallow await.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 19, 2016, 06:40:45 PM
Do you now have REAL ULTIMATE POWER?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
As the man said listening to libertarians recounting how America was a revolution away from statism and feudalism:

Quote from: Cain on the Americans for Sarah Palin Facebook groupHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

I act as a fig leaf for their incompetence, another layer of bureaucracy to shield them from direct involvement in the building.  Apparently they want to make this role "more managerial" than it was previously, whatever the fuck that means, but I suspect I'll just be doing what I do now, only with more cash.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on January 19, 2016, 09:31:28 PM
[Vent/Nostalgia] Moving back to Ireland on Saturday. I regret not having done more in the UK in the last year and a half... I've been into London exactly four times (got to see a couple of musicals), and got up to Edinburgh, Oxford and the lake district which was nice, but overall the last year and a half of my life has been consumed by work, which is something I've got to fix.
I'm going to miss Chelmsford, as it was a really pretty place and the weather is so much better then back home.

10-hour journey on Saturday, between driving and ferry's.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2016, 09:43:43 PM
To be honest, you probably got lucky there.

London does have many fine museums, art galleries and hotels with excellent dining facilities...but aside from that, I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on January 19, 2016, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2016, 09:43:43 PM
To be honest, you probably got lucky there.

London does have many fine museums, art galleries and hotels with excellent dining facilities...but aside from that, I wouldn't recommend it.
That... seemed to be the case. We got to the British Meseum and it was beautiful, you could almost spend a day on each section. The natural history Museum was cool too but was too overrun with kids. I want to come over again though to comic con, because the way things worked out I ended up missing it twice.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on January 20, 2016, 05:09:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
As the man said listening to libertarians recounting how America was a revolution away from statism and feudalism:

Quote from: Cain on the Americans for Sarah Palin Facebook groupHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

I act as a fig leaf for their incompetence, another layer of bureaucracy to shield them from direct involvement in the building.  Apparently they want to make this role "more managerial" than it was previously, whatever the fuck that means, but I suspect I'll just be doing what I do now, only with more cash.

In the US a "promotion" often means you get paid effectively the same but they change your job title and heap on more responsibilities.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on January 20, 2016, 05:14:50 AM
Quote from: Faust on January 19, 2016, 09:31:28 PM
[Vent/Nostalgia] Moving back to Ireland on Saturday. I regret not having done more in the UK in the last year and a half... I've been into London exactly four times (got to see a couple of musicals), and got up to Edinburgh, Oxford and the lake district which was nice, but overall the last year and a half of my life has been consumed by work, which is something I've got to fix.
I'm going to miss Chelmsford, as it was a really pretty place and the weather is so much better then back home.

10-hour journey on Saturday, between driving and ferry's.


My tech job is doing the same thing to me. Except there's nothing to do here except get into bar fights with sports bros, street race shit cars, and build raspberry pi drones loaded with Kali Linux.

Good luck with the move!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 20, 2016, 05:49:35 AM
Quote from: N E T on January 20, 2016, 05:09:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
As the man said listening to libertarians recounting how America was a revolution away from statism and feudalism:

Quote from: Cain on the Americans for Sarah Palin Facebook groupHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

I act as a fig leaf for their incompetence, another layer of bureaucracy to shield them from direct involvement in the building.  Apparently they want to make this role "more managerial" than it was previously, whatever the fuck that means, but I suspect I'll just be doing what I do now, only with more cash.

In the US a "promotion" often means you get paid effectively the same but they change your job title and heap on more responsibilities.

They tried that here with me, too, last month when the redundancies started rolling in.  I said no dice.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on January 21, 2016, 02:48:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2016, 05:49:35 AM
Quote from: N E T on January 20, 2016, 05:09:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
As the man said listening to libertarians recounting how America was a revolution away from statism and feudalism:

Quote from: Cain on the Americans for Sarah Palin Facebook groupHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

I act as a fig leaf for their incompetence, another layer of bureaucracy to shield them from direct involvement in the building.  Apparently they want to make this role "more managerial" than it was previously, whatever the fuck that means, but I suspect I'll just be doing what I do now, only with more cash.

In the US a "promotion" often means you get paid effectively the same but they change your job title and heap on more responsibilities.

They tried that here with me, too, last month when the redundancies started rolling in.  I said no dice.

I thought that might be the case. Fucking scumbags.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 02:58:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
As the man said listening to libertarians recounting how America was a revolution away from statism and feudalism:

Quote from: Cain on the Americans for Sarah Palin Facebook groupHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

I act as a fig leaf for their incompetence, another layer of bureaucracy to shield them from direct involvement in the building.  Apparently they want to make this role "more managerial" than it was previously, whatever the fuck that means, but I suspect I'll just be doing what I do now, only with more cash.

That doesn't sound so bad, really. Getting paid more for the same bullshit.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 02:59:14 AM
I got an invitation to interview! I have to go to Pullman to visit the main campus, but they're paying my travel expenses.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 04:25:08 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 02:59:14 AM
I got an invitation to interview! I have to go to Pullman to visit the main campus, but they're paying my travel expenses.

Dope! Uh.. interview for what precisely? Is it an academic job or something?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:44:40 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 04:25:08 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 02:59:14 AM
I got an invitation to interview! I have to go to Pullman to visit the main campus, but they're paying my travel expenses.

Dope! Uh.. interview for what precisely? Is it an academic job or something?

It's for their integrative biomedical research in neuroscience PhD program.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
If I nail this, I am going to spend the next five years of my life researching treatments for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and schizophrenia, along with any other applications the research may uncover. The lab I want to get into is looking at the role of adenosine in neurodegenerative diseases and other disorders, and incorporates epigenetic research that looks at the intergenerational effects of stress as a potential trigger via reduced baseline adenosine synthesis, as well as the potential of recombinant DNA treatments.

So literally EVERYTHING I'M INTERESTED IN all rolled into one! I already talked to the lab director and he was talking about writing me into his upcoming Parkinson's grant, so... if I get in, I am going to be the most goddamn excited little nerd on the West Coast.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 04:59:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
If I nail this, I am going to spend the next five years of my life researching treatments for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and schizophrenia, along with any other applications the research may uncover. The lab I want to get into is looking at the role of adenosine in neurodegenerative diseases and other disorders, and incorporates epigenetic research that looks at the intergenerational effects of stress as a potential trigger via reduced baseline adenosine synthesis, as well as the potential of recombinant DNA treatments.

So literally EVERYTHING I'M INTERESTED IN all rolled into one! I already talked to the lab director and he was talking about writing me into his upcoming Parkinson's grant, so... if I get in, I am going to be the most goddamn excited little nerd on the West Coast.

I will engage in my delusional rapport with the God-figure I have inherited from my random socio-cultural indoctrination in order to express my hope that you get it!  :)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:59:50 AM
IF I GET THIS I WILL MEET ROBERT SAPOLSKY.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 05:00:13 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 04:59:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
If I nail this, I am going to spend the next five years of my life researching treatments for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and schizophrenia, along with any other applications the research may uncover. The lab I want to get into is looking at the role of adenosine in neurodegenerative diseases and other disorders, and incorporates epigenetic research that looks at the intergenerational effects of stress as a potential trigger via reduced baseline adenosine synthesis, as well as the potential of recombinant DNA treatments.

So literally EVERYTHING I'M INTERESTED IN all rolled into one! I already talked to the lab director and he was talking about writing me into his upcoming Parkinson's grant, so... if I get in, I am going to be the most goddamn excited little nerd on the West Coast.

I will engage in my delusional rapport with the God-figure I have inherited from my random socio-cultural indoctrination in order to express my hope that you get it!  :)

Thank you! :D
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Brother Mythos on January 21, 2016, 05:07:59 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
If I nail this, I am going to spend the next five years of my life researching treatments for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and schizophrenia, along with any other applications the research may uncover. The lab I want to get into is looking at the role of adenosine in neurodegenerative diseases and other disorders, and incorporates epigenetic research that looks at the intergenerational effects of stress as a potential trigger via reduced baseline adenosine synthesis, as well as the potential of recombinant DNA treatments.

So literally EVERYTHING I'M INTERESTED IN all rolled into one! I already talked to the lab director and he was talking about writing me into his upcoming Parkinson's grant, so... if I get in, I am going to be the most goddamn excited little nerd on the West Coast.

Cool!

And, the very best of luck to you.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 05:08:56 AM
Quote from: Gray Area on January 21, 2016, 05:07:59 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
If I nail this, I am going to spend the next five years of my life researching treatments for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and schizophrenia, along with any other applications the research may uncover. The lab I want to get into is looking at the role of adenosine in neurodegenerative diseases and other disorders, and incorporates epigenetic research that looks at the intergenerational effects of stress as a potential trigger via reduced baseline adenosine synthesis, as well as the potential of recombinant DNA treatments.

So literally EVERYTHING I'M INTERESTED IN all rolled into one! I already talked to the lab director and he was talking about writing me into his upcoming Parkinson's grant, so... if I get in, I am going to be the most goddamn excited little nerd on the West Coast.

Cool!

And, the very best of luck to you.

Thank you! I'm so nervous and excited I could barf.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on January 21, 2016, 05:35:11 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
If I nail this, I am going to spend the next five years of my life researching treatments for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and schizophrenia, along with any other applications the research may uncover. The lab I want to get into is looking at the role of adenosine in neurodegenerative diseases and other disorders, and incorporates epigenetic research that looks at the intergenerational effects of stress as a potential trigger via reduced baseline adenosine synthesis, as well as the potential of recombinant DNA treatments.

So literally EVERYTHING I'M INTERESTED IN all rolled into one! I already talked to the lab director and he was talking about writing me into his upcoming Parkinson's grant, so... if I get in, I am going to be the most goddamn excited little nerd on the West Coast.

OMG! That is so incredibly cool!

Since you're a badass, I think you're going to be that intrepid little nerd very soon!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 05:44:22 AM
Quote from: N E T on January 21, 2016, 05:35:11 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
If I nail this, I am going to spend the next five years of my life researching treatments for Parkinson's, epilepsy, and schizophrenia, along with any other applications the research may uncover. The lab I want to get into is looking at the role of adenosine in neurodegenerative diseases and other disorders, and incorporates epigenetic research that looks at the intergenerational effects of stress as a potential trigger via reduced baseline adenosine synthesis, as well as the potential of recombinant DNA treatments.

So literally EVERYTHING I'M INTERESTED IN all rolled into one! I already talked to the lab director and he was talking about writing me into his upcoming Parkinson's grant, so... if I get in, I am going to be the most goddamn excited little nerd on the West Coast.

OMG! That is so incredibly cool!

Since you're a badass, I think you're going to be that intrepid little nerd very soon!

Awww, thanks! :)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 21, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
Nigel, that's fantastic!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 21, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
Nigel, that's fantastic!  Congratulations!

Thank you! Now I just have to nail the interview... I think I will be OK because I already have a prospective advisor. I don't think I'm going to feel like this is real until I get the official offer in the mail, though!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

It's really quite a jolt when you don't see it coming, isn't it?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

Can I get a link please? I'd like to see for myself.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2016, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 02:58:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
As the man said listening to libertarians recounting how America was a revolution away from statism and feudalism:

Quote from: Cain on the Americans for Sarah Palin Facebook groupHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

I act as a fig leaf for their incompetence, another layer of bureaucracy to shield them from direct involvement in the building.  Apparently they want to make this role "more managerial" than it was previously, whatever the fuck that means, but I suspect I'll just be doing what I do now, only with more cash.

That doesn't sound so bad, really. Getting paid more for the same bullshit.

Yeah, although I don't relish the idea of "monthly informal chats" with my manager and his manager.  I hate them enough as is, without spending time outside work seeing them.

Congrats on your interview.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

Was this the "if Bernie doesn't win I'm going to vote Trump because fuck everyone who isn't a white man" or the "black people are required to vote Bernie, anything less is treason against the greatest civil rights protestor since MLK" crowd?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on January 21, 2016, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 21, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
Nigel, that's fantastic!  Congratulations!

Thank you! Now I just have to nail the interview... I think I will be OK because I already have a prospective advisor. I don't think I'm going to feel like this is real until I get the official offer in the mail, though!

That sounds like an amazing oppertunity, congratulations, it sounds like they were already interested in you if they are willing to pay for the transport there and you have an advisor.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2016, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 02:58:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
As the man said listening to libertarians recounting how America was a revolution away from statism and feudalism:

Quote from: Cain on the Americans for Sarah Palin Facebook groupHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

I act as a fig leaf for their incompetence, another layer of bureaucracy to shield them from direct involvement in the building.  Apparently they want to make this role "more managerial" than it was previously, whatever the fuck that means, but I suspect I'll just be doing what I do now, only with more cash.

That doesn't sound so bad, really. Getting paid more for the same bullshit.

Yeah, although I don't relish the idea of "monthly informal chats" with my manager and his manager.  I hate them enough as is, without spending time outside work seeing them.

Congrats on your interview.

Thanks!

Monthly informal chats? I hope you get paid for them, because ugh.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 21, 2016, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 21, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
Nigel, that's fantastic!  Congratulations!

Thank you! Now I just have to nail the interview... I think I will be OK because I already have a prospective advisor. I don't think I'm going to feel like this is real until I get the official offer in the mail, though!

That sounds like an amazing oppertunity, congratulations, it sounds like they were already interested in you if they are willing to pay for the transport there and you have an advisor.

I think it's fairly standard for physical science PhD programs to pay for everything, which I am having a hard time getting used to. I also think they are only inviting students they are pretty certain they are going to offer to, which is exciting and nerve-wracking all at once because I can tell that I am probably getting an offer but I haven't actually gotten one yet. They did detail the stipend, health insurance, and tuition reimbursement in the interview invitation, and it all looks great and definitely within the ball park of what I expected.

I was quite proactive about finding a prospective advisor, I visited his lab a month or so ago. In my field, the availability of a suitable advisor can be more important in terms of getting into a program than any other factor. He was very encouraging, and hadn't had any other visits from prospective grad students, so I am feeling pretty optimistic.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Meunster on January 22, 2016, 08:52:02 AM
Well, for years meunster has been my Mr. Hyde. But Well, can't be an asshole online when I have go go be a productive person at basic and for the next 3-8 years.

So I'll try to spread the word of eris when I can, and see you all later. Don't die without me.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: MMIX on January 22, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Quote from: Meunster on January 22, 2016, 08:52:02 AM
Well, for years meunster has been my Mr. Hyde. But Well, can't be an asshole online when I have go go be a productive person at basic and for the next 3-8 years.

So I'll try to spread the word of eris when I can, and see you all later. Don't die without me.

Hey, spag. Don't die without us.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 22, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
Hope you find what you are looking for Meunster!

Congrats Nigel, Cain.

I have had an interesting couple of days - I went to Gdansk to do a technical audit for one of our customers. The colleague who I was travelling with (much more senior than me) started drinking in the airport, carried on on the flight and then we went out to a sports bar when we landed. At 1am I went back to the hotel with the local sales manager, leaving said colleague to his own devices (fraternising with some Danish handball fans).

The appointed breakfast time rolls around and there's no sign of him. 20cm of snow had fallen overnight. He's not picking up his calls. We go to the customer and complete our business. By now it's 1pm and we still haven't heard from him. At 3pm, just as I am about to say 'fuck it' and start making my way back to the airport said colleague staggers into the hotel. Pale, slurring and dishevelled he says he's been to the hospital. After another couple of hours of recovering it turns out he's a recently diagnosed diabetic and didn't realise you aren't supposed to drink on his medication.

Is it uncharitable of me to think that, medication or no, this was supremely irresponsible/unprofessional? I have a meeting in a minute with my boss (and maybe others) to give them my version of events.

Edit: He was the one that drove us to the airport. Luckily, he has a company car so I was insured to drive us back again.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 22, 2016, 12:31:48 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 22, 2016, 08:52:02 AM
Well, for years meunster has been my Mr. Hyde. But Well, can't be an asshole online when I have go go be a productive person at basic and for the next 3-8 years.

So I'll try to spread the word of eris when I can, and see you all later. Don't die without me.

Later Meunster! If I do die without you, just know I'll probably be too dead for it to matter much.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2016, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: Xaz on January 22, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
Hope you find what you are looking for Meunster!

Congrats Nigel, Cain.

I have had an interesting couple of days - I went to Gdansk to do a technical audit for one of our customers. The colleague who I was travelling with (much more senior than me) started drinking in the airport, carried on on the flight and then we went out to a sports bar when we landed. At 1am I went back to the hotel with the local sales manager, leaving said colleague to his own devices (fraternising with some Danish handball fans).

The appointed breakfast time rolls around and there's no sign of him. 20cm of snow had fallen overnight. He's not picking up his calls. We go to the customer and complete our business. By now it's 1pm and we still haven't heard from him. At 3pm, just as I am about to say 'fuck it' and start making my way back to the airport said colleague staggers into the hotel. Pale, slurring and dishevelled he says he's been to the hospital. After another couple of hours of recovering it turns out he's a recently diagnosed diabetic and didn't realise you aren't supposed to drink on his medication.

Is it uncharitable of me to think that, medication or no, this was supremely irresponsible/unprofessional? I have a meeting in a minute with my boss (and maybe others) to give them my version of events.

Edit: He was the one that drove us to the airport. Luckily, he has a company car so I was insured to drive us back again.

It's pretty irresponsible, yes.  Diabetics do get thirsty, which could explain maybe drinking a little too much...you have a few drinks, don't quite feel satisfied, but you've had a few drinks so your judgement is off.  But what kind of idiot doesn't check his medication, then drinks solidly from (presumably) the early afternoon until past 1am?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 22, 2016, 01:18:53 PM
There's a definite heavy drinking culture within the salesforce at my company (and many others I am sure) so I expect that the lifestyle change that he will have to be making is coming as quite the shock.

Also he's not exactly known for his stellar decision making. He appears to have got where he is today through sheer hypnotic verbal diarrhoea and self confidence.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2016, 01:22:08 PM
Quoteheavy drinking culture....hypnotic verbal diarrhoea and self confidence

Yup, that sounds like most sales departments.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 22, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

It's really quite a jolt when you don't see it coming, isn't it?

Very dismaying. I wasnt really sure how to react so I went into reflexive trolling.

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

Can I get a link please? I'd like to see for myself.

If I can find it again, when I have access to a real computer again, sure.

Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

Was this the "if Bernie doesn't win I'm going to vote Trump because fuck everyone who isn't a white man" or the "black people are required to vote Bernie, anything less is treason against the greatest civil rights protestor since MLK" crowd?

Multiple comments in the vein of "I'm not racist," and "blacks can do pretty well when they wear proper clothing and don't break the law." Then responding that he supports Sanders when accused of supporting Trump.

Probably the most egregious example of "I'm not a racist, but..." that I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2016, 04:39:21 PM
Ah, the #alllivesmatter crowd types.

In other news, testing has yielded a method of video making that is about as resource consumptive on my system as my current one, but results in much higher quality of video.  It also records about 2 gig for every 10 minutes, but such is life and the cost of quality.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on January 22, 2016, 09:13:53 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:44:40 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 04:25:08 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 02:59:14 AM
I got an invitation to interview! I have to go to Pullman to visit the main campus, but they're paying my travel expenses.

Dope! Uh.. interview for what precisely? Is it an academic job or something?

It's for their integrative biomedical research in neuroscience PhD program.

That's fucking sweet!  Good luck!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on January 22, 2016, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2016, 01:22:08 PM
Quoteheavy drinking culture....hypnotic verbal diarrhoea and self confidence

Yup, that sounds like most sales departments.

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 23, 2016, 01:52:32 AM
Next Requiem video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwUdkig7BY) should be processed in a couple of hours.  At least going by the source file, the visual quality is so much higher now.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on January 23, 2016, 02:39:46 AM
So today, I showered a douche-bag in wiper fluid, incessantly.  See, it's because I don't tolerate fools driving like that in my hood.  Oh splendid satisfaction.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on January 23, 2016, 04:03:04 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 23, 2016, 01:52:32 AM
Next Requiem video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwUdkig7BY) should be processed in a couple of hours.  At least going by the source file, the visual quality is so much higher now.

This is the first opportunity I've had to sit down and watch your videos, I really enjoyed that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 23, 2016, 12:25:01 PM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on January 23, 2016, 04:03:04 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 23, 2016, 01:52:32 AM
Next Requiem video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwUdkig7BY) should be processed in a couple of hours.  At least going by the source file, the visual quality is so much higher now.

This is the first opportunity I've had to sit down and watch your videos, I really enjoyed that.

Thanks, the next one should be up shortly. 

Took 4 hours to process, for some reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTvkKMoRYbM), but it's done.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2016, 06:32:07 PM
I just found out that they are flying Dr. Boison to Pullman as well, for the official interview. We both live in Portland.  :lulz:

Bureaucracy!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2016, 06:34:02 PM
They aren't flying any of the other Vancouver faculty out, they're bringing him there just to interview me.

It's great because that means that unless I blow it in some mysterious way, I'm in. On the other hand, it makes no damn sense other than fulfilling some kind of bureaucratic protocol.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2016, 06:37:04 PM
Also, somehow, by virtue of attending a meeting that sounded interesting, I am somehow now on a campaign strategy team for forming a neuroscience department at my current university. I seem to be in charge of recruiting support from the bio and chem departments.

:?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 23, 2016, 06:52:35 PM
Institute a draft.  Remember, if it's not explictly forbidden by your remit, then it's implied by default.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2016, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 23, 2016, 06:52:35 PM
Institute a draft.  Remember, if it's not explictly forbidden by your remit, then it's implied by default.

PERFECT.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2016, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 22, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2016, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

It's really quite a jolt when you don't see it coming, isn't it?

Very dismaying. I wasnt really sure how to react so I went into reflexive trolling.

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 21, 2016, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

Can I get a link please? I'd like to see for myself.

If I can find it again, when I have access to a real computer again, sure.

Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 21, 2016, 03:02:12 PM
Well, I finally got to see, in full-color IMAX 3D with surround sound, what the Racist As Fuck segment of the Sanders supporters look like.

Thanks, Facebook. Now I know.

Was this the "if Bernie doesn't win I'm going to vote Trump because fuck everyone who isn't a white man" or the "black people are required to vote Bernie, anything less is treason against the greatest civil rights protestor since MLK" crowd?

Multiple comments in the vein of "I'm not racist," and "blacks can do pretty well when they wear proper clothing and don't break the law." Then responding that he supports Sanders when accused of supporting Trump.

Probably the most egregious example of "I'm not a racist, but..." that I've seen in a long time.

Be prepared to be accused of lying/misinterpreting/being a bad person if you mention it most places.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 23, 2016, 11:34:56 PM
Quote from: Meunster on January 22, 2016, 08:52:02 AM
Well, for years meunster has been my Mr. Hyde. But Well, can't be an asshole online when I have go go be a productive person at basic and for the next 3-8 years.

So I'll try to spread the word of eris when I can, and see you all later. Don't die without me.

Hope to see you around here from time to time. I hope joining up brings you everything you hope it will. Good luck, and don't die.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 24, 2016, 08:16:12 PM
Next video up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCfxO1cDQCc).  Also bonus video of me melting things using a laser shotgun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo3A4psXIxg), just because.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2016, 03:39:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 24, 2016, 08:16:12 PM
Next video up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCfxO1cDQCc).  Also bonus video of me melting things using a laser shotgun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo3A4psXIxg), just because.

My best friend was talking about voice actors the other day and I realized one of the things that makes your voice so pleasing. It's that you have low mouth noise.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2016, 03:43:08 PM
Thanks, though that could just be my mic settings as well.  I've set it to screen out noises below, and above, a certain range, and in addition to generally having a neutral tone when speaking, I'm sure that helps.

Still doesn't let me screen out sirens from the street below, unfortunately, or otherwise I'd leave my windows open.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 25, 2016, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 25, 2016, 03:43:08 PM
Thanks, though that could just be my mic settings as well.  I've set it to screen out noises below, and above, a certain range, and in addition to generally having a neutral tone when speaking, I'm sure that helps.

Still doesn't let me screen out sirens from the street below, unfortunately, or otherwise I'd leave my windows open.

That time the fire alarm went off in one of your videos gave me one hell of a start. Thought my building was on fire.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2016, 03:55:57 PM
 :lol: Yeah, I bet.

I also have a car crash audio recorded somewhere, on a piece of footage I never used.  You can hear it, and the subsequent shouting, extremely clearly.  The street I live on is extremely busy, traffic wise - it's classified as an "A" road in UK parlance, so a main trunk route, and in this case it's 1.5 miles long, running direct from King's Cross to Camden, so it's a major throughfare.  Between the double glazing and my mic settings though, it's pretty easy to ignore.

Edit: Moar video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKsRM2WR8Zk).  Won't be one tomorrow though, as this is the last one in my backlog.  Maybe one Wednesday night/Thursday morning.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on January 26, 2016, 07:18:38 AM
Hopefully mercurys gonna start turning correct again because all these clerical errors I'm experiencing are way beyond being statistically tenable as "mistakes".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2016, 03:16:10 PM
No.  Mercury has, and always will be, in retrograde.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 26, 2016, 04:58:50 PM
Thanks Obama.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 26, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
I've put in for a job as a stockroom clerk that is not only without much, if any, bio hazardous exposure but also pays much better. There's a 1st and 3rd shift position open and if I get the one on 3rd that I'd prefer it's about $4.50 per hr more and I'll be done by 7am so classes will be easy to schedule AND afford.

Here's hoping.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 26, 2016, 05:34:32 PM
Good luck!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on January 26, 2016, 07:50:17 PM
Very hope, much luck!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on January 26, 2016, 07:54:06 PM
Very much good luck!

Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2016, 03:16:10 PM
No.  Mercury has, and always will be, in retrograde.
:lulz:
Except for Central Committee's edict stating that a retrograding retrograde retrogrades its retrogradeness into a prograde.  Obama has been, and always will be, the reason for which planets turn.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on January 26, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
This site has just been updated.

http://isabevigodadead.com

:sad:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 27, 2016, 06:30:29 AM
'Sup spags, what did I miss?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on January 27, 2016, 08:36:50 AM
(http://45.media.tumblr.com/484eaf43cb28dc40a392fdfb645ae538/tumblr_mlnmoyVgDB1s9vhgxo1_250.gif)
(http://45.media.tumblr.com/5038939a2d4961ba224eeefdb91a442b/tumblr_mlnmoyVgDB1s9vhgxo2_250.gif)
(http://49.media.tumblr.com/4f997b9eda345eebb05d53ea16616e51/tumblr_mlnmoyVgDB1s9vhgxo3_250.gif)
(http://45.media.tumblr.com/3009c17c08df5d0073e77400aba979bf/tumblr_mlnmoyVgDB1s9vhgxo4_r1_250.gif)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 02:38:53 PM
Just got a call. I have an interview next week Wednesday. They got back to me within 2 days of applying. Think I've got this one! Soon I can add warehousing and inventory control to my list of practical skills. Might start school slowly at first, thinking tech school for basic prerequisites on anything I can't test out of and some essential accounting classes. Guess we shall see!

Thanks for the good wishes guys!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on January 27, 2016, 06:30:29 AM
'Sup spags, what did I miss?

PD has been kinda holding it's breath for a couple months now after Roger flounced.

I love it when the halls
of PD are so quiet
the threads so still
the Goddess out
and about Her business

PD might seem to some
safe in such quescient
moments as these

tehe

inevitably She will return again
and then the fever flare
the brains swell
blessed cry out
and bodies writhe

For the threads of PD
are never dead
but only dreaming
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 27, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
Whoa, why did Roger flounce?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on January 27, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
Whoa, why did Roger flounce?

Well, I won't speak for him other than to say when last I chatted with him on the subject he was very serious about it. I don't know if it will prove truly permanent, but it certainly seems so. I'll leave it to folks actually involved to tell the tale.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 27, 2016, 05:30:11 PM
Heya Twid, glad to see you around man.

As for Roger, he's still pretty active on facebook and he'd be the best person to ask.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 27, 2016, 05:39:32 PM
Cool cool
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on January 27, 2016, 09:13:16 PM
I'm kinda here-ish. Christmas was pretty exciting for Big Words stuff.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 27, 2016, 09:20:30 PM
That's pretty awesome. I think I remember seeing something about that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: EK WAFFLR on January 27, 2016, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2016, 03:16:10 PM
No.  Mercury has, and always will be, in retrograde.

Marilyn Manson posted a video on instagram 13hrs ago saying "Mercury is out of retrograde. Now we'll see what happens"
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 11:33:29 PM
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on January 27, 2016, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2016, 03:16:10 PM
No.  Mercury has, and always will be, in retrograde.

Marilyn Manson posted a video on instagram 13hrs ago saying "Mercury is out of retrograde. Now we'll see what happens"

So..... the cover-up begins.  :fnord:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
Rise of the Tomb Raider is visually amazing.  I may have to do a blind playthrough of this and throw it up on teh Youtoobs
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 28, 2016, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 28, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
Rise of the Tomb Raider is visually amazing.  I may have to do a blind playthrough of this and throw it up on teh Youtoobs

Was that the one written by Pratchett's daughter?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2016, 09:26:50 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on January 28, 2016, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 28, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
Rise of the Tomb Raider is visually amazing.  I may have to do a blind playthrough of this and throw it up on teh Youtoobs

Was that the one written by Pratchett's daughter?

She wrote this and the previous one, I believe.  And if you want to see some of it... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXV8JuYG2I)

Edit: Requiem video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQsPHliOytI) also up.  Should be HD by the time someone sees the link.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2016, 04:53:46 AM
So exactly a month after working on my own, I might finally get a coworker.

I think she's Basque, though going by how my manager was butchering her name, she may as well be some Lovecraftian horror.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on January 30, 2016, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 28, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
Rise of the Tomb Raider is visually amazing.  I may have to do a blind playthrough of this and throw it up on teh Youtoobs
That whole ice-climbing hook was great - youtuubes finally let's me watch it again, somewhat.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 30, 2016, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2016, 04:53:46 AM
So exactly a month after working on my own, I might finally get a coworker.

I think she's Basque, though going by how my manager was butchering her name, she may as well be some Lovecraftian horror.

With any luck, she could be both.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2016, 06:42:52 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on January 30, 2016, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 28, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
Rise of the Tomb Raider is visually amazing.  I may have to do a blind playthrough of this and throw it up on teh Youtoobs
That whole ice-climbing hook was great - youtuubes finally let's me watch it again, somewhat.

Yeah, they've built on the exploration and survival aspects pretty well, IMO. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on January 30, 2016, 09:36:02 PM
b/c of decades of vidya-games exile my opinion may not be so informed, though I was tempted to change that, on a visceral level, seeing Lara slipping all over the place, it's like she needed me; or I wanted her to, at least.

The previous game you were playing looked cool too.  I liked how the guy was walking around with fire/plasma/magic in his hand and could then also go into that upper celestial/zodiacal realm - youtuubes shit the bed at that point so Im sure it's even cooler.

[Ed] Only criticism of both is jerky camera movement when character turns left or right.  Might have something to do with rendering engine trying to maintain isomorphic perspective.  I don't if it's a "playability" compromise, but it was detracting for a spectator, seeing how otherwise everything was beyond expectation.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2016, 10:39:34 PM
Yeah, that's engine limitation issues unfortunately.  It might be better if I was using a Solid State Drive....but even then, a lot of games have been slow to take advantage of muti-core processing and similar.  In the case of Skyrim, the problem is although my computer is pretty decent, the game is only relying on a single core processor, rather than spreading the load between them all.  So when load exceeds what that core can handle...quality goes to shit.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 31, 2016, 12:56:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2016, 04:53:46 AM
So exactly a month after working on my own, I might finally get a coworker.

I think she's Basque, though going by how my manager was butchering her name, she may as well be some Lovecraftian horror.

I am going to hope for the latter, although the former is also pretty cool.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 31, 2016, 01:00:22 AM
What the hell is up, spags? I haven't been on for a couple of days because 1. MIDTERMS ARE COMING, and 2. I had a cold that turned into bronchitis and then just as I was getting over it I GOT ANOTHER FUCKING COLD.

Other than that, I think everything's fine. I bought a charcoal gray suit. Alty is still awesome. I am having a sort of love/hate relationship with my physics class.

For some reason it is absolutely cold as FUCK today.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 31, 2016, 02:14:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on January 27, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
Whoa, why did Roger flounce?

Well, I won't speak for him other than to say when last I chatted with him on the subject he was very serious about it. I don't know if it will prove truly permanent, but it certainly seems so. I'll leave it to folks actually involved to tell the tale.

I think the only folks involved are Roger.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on January 31, 2016, 03:37:25 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 31, 2016, 01:00:22 AM
What the hell is up, spags? I haven't been on for a couple of days because 1. MIDTERMS ARE COMING, and 2. I had a cold that turned into bronchitis and then just as I was getting over it I GOT ANOTHER FUCKING COLD.

Other than that, I think everything's fine. I bought a charcoal gray suit. Alty is still awesome. I am having a sort of love/hate relationship with my physics class.

For some reason it is absolutely cold as FUCK today.

Midterms are incompatible with our way of life, extremists and probably rapists.  We should send them back where they came from.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2016, 04:13:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 31, 2016, 02:14:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on January 27, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
Whoa, why did Roger flounce?

Well, I won't speak for him other than to say when last I chatted with him on the subject he was very serious about it. I don't know if it will prove truly permanent, but it certainly seems so. I'll leave it to folks actually involved to tell the tale.

I think the only folks involved are Roger.

Well, Roger and his horrible racist kids, wife, and parents, who - because they are voting for Sanders - are racists and just exactly like Trump voters and Libertarians.  We're practicing for the election with a nightstick and a dummy with a picture of Eric Garner stapled to its face.  We feel that we have to do our part.

But mostly just Roger, who is the worst friend ever because he, yanno, includes his friends in things that they can choose to ignore, if that's what they want or have to do.  Because he's a total cunt who has never acted like a proper friend in his life, and should be publicly shamed for, um, including people in stuff.

Or maybe it was just time for you to shit on someone again.  One or the other.  In any case, I was forced to choose between my dignity and our friendship, and as you can mostly likely tell from the tone of this post, I have in fact made my decision.

I'll be fucking back off now.  A shout out to the "helpful" soul that pointed this post out to me.  You can eat the peanuts outta my shit, too.

TGRR,
Racist guy that gets lazy and bans racists.  Or words to that effect.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: President Television on January 31, 2016, 05:28:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2016, 04:13:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 31, 2016, 02:14:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on January 27, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
Whoa, why did Roger flounce?

Well, I won't speak for him other than to say when last I chatted with him on the subject he was very serious about it. I don't know if it will prove truly permanent, but it certainly seems so. I'll leave it to folks actually involved to tell the tale.

I think the only folks involved are Roger.

Well, Roger and his horrible racist kids, wife, and parents, who - because they are voting for Sanders - are racists and just exactly like Trump voters and Libertarians.  We're practicing for the election with a nightstick and a dummy with a picture of Eric Garner stapled to its face.  We feel that we have to do our part.

But mostly just Roger, who is the worst friend ever because he, yanno, includes his friends in things that they can choose to ignore, if that's what they want or have to do.  Because he's a total cunt who has never acted like a proper friend in his life, and should be publicly shamed for, um, including people in stuff.

Or maybe it was just time for you to shit on someone again.  One or the other.  In any case, I was forced to choose between my dignity and our friendship, and as you can mostly likely tell from the tone of this post, I have in fact made my decision.

I'll be fucking back off now.  A shout out to the "helpful" soul that pointed this post out to me.  You can eat the peanuts outta my shit, too.

TGRR,
Racist guy that gets lazy and bans racists.  Or words to that effect.

Dude, I think Sanders is the best available option for US President, but even I'll admit that there are some pretty racist undertones to broad swathes of his supporters' rhetoric, and it's pretty clear that Nigel was joking about that way back when that thread happened, and that it was a general rather than universal statement. Bernie Sanders himself doesn't seem to be pushing a racist agenda, and supporting him doesn't make someone a racist, but acting like black people "owe him" their votes does, and while I can't speak for Nigel, I do pretty strongly perceive that to be what she was getting at.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2016, 05:38:48 AM
Quote from: President Television on January 31, 2016, 05:28:47 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2016, 04:13:00 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 31, 2016, 02:14:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 27, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on January 27, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
Whoa, why did Roger flounce?

Well, I won't speak for him other than to say when last I chatted with him on the subject he was very serious about it. I don't know if it will prove truly permanent, but it certainly seems so. I'll leave it to folks actually involved to tell the tale.

I think the only folks involved are Roger.

Well, Roger and his horrible racist kids, wife, and parents, who - because they are voting for Sanders - are racists and just exactly like Trump voters and Libertarians.  We're practicing for the election with a nightstick and a dummy with a picture of Eric Garner stapled to its face.  We feel that we have to do our part.

But mostly just Roger, who is the worst friend ever because he, yanno, includes his friends in things that they can choose to ignore, if that's what they want or have to do.  Because he's a total cunt who has never acted like a proper friend in his life, and should be publicly shamed for, um, including people in stuff.

Or maybe it was just time for you to shit on someone again.  One or the other.  In any case, I was forced to choose between my dignity and our friendship, and as you can mostly likely tell from the tone of this post, I have in fact made my decision.

I'll be fucking back off now.  A shout out to the "helpful" soul that pointed this post out to me.  You can eat the peanuts outta my shit, too.

TGRR,
Racist guy that gets lazy and bans racists.  Or words to that effect.

Dude, I think Sanders is the best available option for US President, but even I'll admit that there are some pretty racist undertones to broad swathes of his supporters' rhetoric, and it's pretty clear that Nigel was joking about that way back when that thread happened, and that it was a general rather than universal statement. Bernie Sanders himself doesn't seem to be pushing a racist agenda, and supporting him doesn't make someone a racist, but acting like black people "owe him" their votes does, and while I can't speak for Nigel, I do pretty strongly perceive that to be what she was getting at.

Yeah, no.  What she said was:

QuoteWhat do right-wing Fundamentalists, Libertarians, and Bernie Sanders supporters all have in common?

QuoteRacism.

I don't feel I need to comment on the shaming hilarity, because that's as self-evident as it gets.

So I don't feel it's "pretty clear", and it was most definitely a broad brush.  An intentional broad brush, for everyone that doesn't agree with Nigel's personal political views.  If you do not agree with her in detail, you are a racist, which is all kinds of awesome.  It's the best thing to happen to political dialogue since "If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to be worried about."

So don't tell me what I fucking saw.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2016, 02:28:09 AM
Hey Cain, I can't remember; are you pursuing a PhD? Mostly just idle curiosity, but it occurred to me to wonder during a random Facebook thread today.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2016, 07:34:04 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2016, 02:28:09 AM
Hey Cain, I can't remember; are you pursuing a PhD? Mostly just idle curiosity, but it occurred to me to wonder during a random Facebook thread today.

Not yet.  What I'm doing is called an M.Litt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Letters), which is effectively the highest form of a Masters degree that you can do in the UK system, and is equivalent to the first 2 years of a doctorate.

My hope is that this will be a springboard into a PhD, whether that's a full 3 year course or just one year (I would actually rather 3 years in some respects, though 1 to get it out of the way would be nice.  I'm unclear on how feasible that is though).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2016, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2016, 07:34:04 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2016, 02:28:09 AM
Hey Cain, I can't remember; are you pursuing a PhD? Mostly just idle curiosity, but it occurred to me to wonder during a random Facebook thread today.

Not yet.  What I'm doing is called an M.Litt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Letters), which is effectively the highest form of a Masters degree that you can do in the UK system, and is equivalent to the first 2 years of a doctorate.

My hope is that this will be a springboard into a PhD, whether that's a full 3 year course or just one year (I would actually rather 3 years in some respects, though 1 to get it out of the way would be nice.  I'm unclear on how feasible that is though).

Cool! That seems like a good path to pursue, in terms of staging you either for consulting or for PhD research.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on February 01, 2016, 08:15:25 PM
Coworker came into work today with a POPE card issued by Gavriel. So, I guess Discordia is successful now.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 02, 2016, 05:00:18 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 01, 2016, 08:15:25 PM
Coworker came into work today with a POPE card issued by Gavriel. So, I guess Discordia is successful now.

WTF
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 02, 2016, 09:39:46 AM
It was our fault for holding Gavriel back really.

He once punched a bouncer's teeth out, you know.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on February 02, 2016, 12:22:24 PM
That's pretty cool, does he know you are discordian?
You should hand him a cease and desist written on the Illuminati letterhead (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/downloads/illumtemplate.docx)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on February 02, 2016, 01:07:29 PM
Discordia Brand!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 02, 2016, 06:54:28 PM
Gavriel: interpreting kopyleft as a business opportunity since 2008.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 02, 2016, 07:16:50 PM
Paes, if you haven't already, you should point that person to that thread where Gavriel totally spazzed out.

It's hilarious, because he tries to act like some kind of Discordian Internet Sage on FB, while pulling the Internet Tough Guy routine here.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 02, 2016, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 02, 2016, 07:16:50 PM
Paes, if you haven't already, you should point that person to that thread where Gavriel totally spazzed out.

It's hilarious, because he tries to act like some kind of Discordian Internet Sage on FB, while pulling the Internet Tough Guy routine here.

You should also point me at it, I think this drama was before my time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 02, 2016, 08:42:13 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 02, 2016, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 02, 2016, 07:16:50 PM
Paes, if you haven't already, you should point that person to that thread where Gavriel totally spazzed out.

It's hilarious, because he tries to act like some kind of Discordian Internet Sage on FB, while pulling the Internet Tough Guy routine here.

You should also point me at it, I think this drama was before my time.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=33599.0
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on February 02, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
Specifically,
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg1229104#msg1229104
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 02, 2016, 08:48:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 02, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
Specifically,
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg1229104#msg1229104

Also http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34107.msg1239833#msg1239833

We have to use quotes of what he said, because he went back and deleted all his posts in a fit of butthurt
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on February 02, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Good times, good times.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2016, 01:07:11 AM
I'm going to wake up to another 200 comment shitfest on my Facebook, aren't I?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2016, 01:53:06 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2016, 01:07:11 AM
I'm going to wake up to another 200 comment shitfest on my Facebook, aren't I?

:lulz: Yep.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 03, 2016, 03:15:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 02, 2016, 07:16:50 PM
Paes, if you haven't already, you should point that person to that thread where Gavriel totally spazzed out.

It's hilarious, because he tries to act like some kind of Discordian Internet Sage on FB, while pulling the Internet Tough Guy routine here.

Sic DIS
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 03, 2016, 03:17:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2016, 01:53:06 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2016, 01:07:11 AM
I'm going to wake up to another 200 comment shitfest on my Facebook, aren't I?

:lulz: Yep.

Science demands sacrifice  :magick:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2016, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 03, 2016, 03:17:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2016, 01:53:06 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2016, 01:07:11 AM
I'm going to wake up to another 200 comment shitfest on my Facebook, aren't I?

:lulz: Yep.

Science demands sacrifice  :magick:

If only educated women in the humanities could understand that.  But they can't because they've been brainwashed by the SJW cult :(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2016, 03:30:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2016, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 03, 2016, 03:17:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2016, 01:53:06 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2016, 01:07:11 AM
I'm going to wake up to another 200 comment shitfest on my Facebook, aren't I?

:lulz: Yep.

Science demands sacrifice  :magick:

If only educated women in the humanities could understand that.  But they can't because they've been brainwashed by the SJW cult :(

:lulz: I liked how at the end he flipped on whether Jezebel is to be taken seriously or not.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
It's almost like having a mini le typical redditeur following all my posts.  Atheist, who hates Muslims and SJWs and humanities but thinks of himself as a liberal?  All he needs is an engineering degree and he's set.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on February 03, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
 :aaa:  How did I miss this guy?  I don't remember him at all. 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2016, 07:52:19 PM
Moar video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-8QwQn-JPw).  My comments section has also been invaded by the denizens of the Requiem subreddit, so I now have a lot more viewers.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 03, 2016, 08:36:28 PM
Anyone know if there's a way of making Facebook's timeline load chronologically rather than in the order that Facebook somehow decides I should see posts?

p.s. I have added a few of you under the name of Harry Celine. Hope you don't mind - I was feeling out of the loop.

EDIT: Found the setting. Stupid algorithms telling me what to read! I would much rather leave it to chance.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2016, 08:40:33 PM
You'll have to change it manually every single time you log in, however.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on February 03, 2016, 09:52:21 PM
Its also not truely chronological, it hides posts from people you havent clicked on in a long time. Facebook decides who you're friends are.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on February 04, 2016, 12:38:11 AM
Fucking Facebook.  :x



Also, that moment when your 8-year-old tells you he thinks segregation is okay, because everyone else he loves is a proud racist.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on February 04, 2016, 12:54:48 AM
(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/Bad_Post.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 04:40:13 AM
Quote from: Xaz on February 03, 2016, 08:36:28 PM
Anyone know if there's a way of making Facebook's timeline load chronologically rather than in the order that Facebook somehow decides I should see posts?

p.s. I have added a few of you under the name of Harry Celine. Hope you don't mind - I was feeling out of the loop.

EDIT: Found the setting. Stupid algorithms telling me what to read! I would much rather leave it to chance.

Oh! I saw you were friends with Cain so I accepted. Nice to know who you are!

I will probably promptly forget, forgive me. I have the hardest time mentally keeping FB handles connected to forum handles.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 04:40:38 AM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on February 04, 2016, 12:38:11 AM
Fucking Facebook.  :x



Also, that moment when your 8-year-old tells you he thinks segregation is okay, because everyone else he loves is a proud racist.

:(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 04:41:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 03, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
It's almost like having a mini le typical redditeur following all my posts.  Atheist, who hates Muslims and SJWs and humanities but thinks of himself as a liberal?  All he needs is an engineering degree and he's set.

Is he working on an engineering degree? He certainly already has the contempt for humanity necessary for one!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: hooplala on February 04, 2016, 06:21:09 AM
Just got back from a week in Jamaica... I thought smoking an obscene amount of weed in one week might turn me off the stuff.  Turns out, that's not how it works.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pergamos on February 04, 2016, 06:51:40 AM
I have a compost pile, for the first time in my adult life.  I feel a bit like I have finally grown up.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 04, 2016, 06:21:09 AM
Just got back from a week in Jamaica... I thought smoking an obscene amount of weed in one week might turn me off the stuff.  Turns out, that's not how it works.

:lulz: I'm just trying to imagine you in Jamaica.

Pics?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 04, 2016, 06:51:40 AM
I have a compost pile, for the first time in my adult life.  I feel a bit like I have finally grown up.

Composting is definitely an irrefutable sign of adulthood.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 05:18:11 PM
I'm supposed to be pretending to care about physics right now.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on February 04, 2016, 06:49:10 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 05:18:11 PM
I'm supposed to be pretending to care about physics right now.

It's OK, physics cares about you.*

















*Not really.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: hooplala on February 04, 2016, 08:35:15 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 04, 2016, 06:21:09 AM
Just got back from a week in Jamaica... I thought smoking an obscene amount of weed in one week might turn me off the stuff.  Turns out, that's not how it works.

:lulz: I'm just trying to imagine you in Jamaica.

Pics?

(http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y522/Rex_Bologna/1c95aa3d-7cf4-4f93-b8da-32c1a29948ec_zpsh2ueu9mc.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on February 04, 2016, 08:45:35 PM
Likle-likle-ganja :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 05, 2016, 02:17:44 AM
For those of you still not subscribed....part 17 is up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmiZ2PQARDI).  We do a lot of walking and talking.

Probably be the last episode until Monday though....not created a backlog this week.

And tomorrow, I'll finally get to meet my new minion.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 05, 2016, 04:12:42 AM
Quote from: LMNO on February 04, 2016, 06:49:10 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2016, 05:18:11 PM
I'm supposed to be pretending to care about physics right now.

It's OK, physics cares about you.*

















*Not really.

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Brother Mythos on February 05, 2016, 04:16:12 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 05, 2016, 02:17:44 AM
And tomorrow, I'll finally get to meet my new minion.

Ah yes, Minion Training Day. Good times.

My favorite Minion Training Technique™ is to channel Senior Drill Instructor Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, from Full Metal Jacket. My second favorite is to imitate Elmer Gantry, from ... Elmer Gantry. Unfortunately, I can't keep a straight face for long enough to successfully pull off either one.

I love the W. C. Fields style too, but wouldn't even attempt that one. I might, however, and with a lot of practice, be able to get away with the Motor Sergeant Frank Tree schtick, from 1941.

Oh, that reminds me, a really good, and very easy technique is the "I Just Pranked the Boss And I'm Giving You All of the Credit Routine". I know a guy who became A Legend In His Own Time™ with that one.

Last, since you're into the martial arts, you might consider naming your new minion "Grasshopper", and being his/her Master Po. You could, probably, keep that routine up forever.

Have fun!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on February 05, 2016, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: Gray Area on February 05, 2016, 04:16:12 AM
Last, since you're into the martial arts, you might consider naming your new minion "Grasshopper", and being his/her Master Po. You could, probably, keep that routine up forever.

And then Cain was a bald wrinkly smiling man.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on February 05, 2016, 04:18:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 05, 2016, 02:17:44 AM
For those of you still not subscribed....part 17 is up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmiZ2PQARDI).  We do a lot of walking and talking.

Probably be the last episode until Monday though....not created a backlog this week.

And tomorrow, I'll finally get to meet my new minion.

Slowly but surely catching up on the episodes. Definitely enjoying it though!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 05, 2016, 09:52:54 PM
It turns out that a surprising number of people really, really, really, really don't like being told that you don't care about their opinions and don't want to hear them. :lulz:

THEY HAVE TO SHARE. THEY MUST. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 05, 2016, 10:06:32 PM
I've been seeing all these posts today from Sanders supporters about how great Obama has been. Mostly, the same exact Sanders supporters who also post about Clinton being the devil incarnate.

As far as I can tell, Clinton and Obama are incredibly politically similar. Virtually identical.

Such dissonance, many confuse.


Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 06, 2016, 12:00:25 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Freedom!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:00 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Woohoo!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
I'm supposed to be working on my physics lab. I hate physics. I sincerely hate it. It's BORING AS FUCK.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 06, 2016, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Congrats!

How many years did you do, anyway?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 06, 2016, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
I'm supposed to be working on my physics lab. I hate physics. I sincerely hate it. It's BORING AS FUCK.

What was the experiment for this one?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on February 06, 2016, 02:06:25 AM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on February 06, 2016, 12:00:25 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Freedom!
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:00 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Woohoo!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 06, 2016, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Congrats!

How many years did you do, anyway?

Thanks all.

Almost 9 years.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 06, 2016, 02:08:21 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 06, 2016, 02:06:25 AM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on February 06, 2016, 12:00:25 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Freedom!
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:00 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Woohoo!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 06, 2016, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

Congrats!

How many years did you do, anyway?

Thanks all.

Almost 9 years.

I thought it had been a very long time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Brother Mythos on February 06, 2016, 06:17:49 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 05, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Officially discharged.

I'm a new guy around here, but please accept my congratulations and best wishes for you and your future plans.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on February 06, 2016, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
I'm supposed to be working on my physics lab. I hate physics. I sincerely hate it. It's BORING AS FUCK.

What was the experiment for this one?

The little cart on a track. We couldn't get loggerpro to work with the equipment (most of the class couldn't) so we don't have any trial 2 data, which makes the entire lab pretty meaningless.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 07, 2016, 12:29:21 AM
Physics midterm today. I think that I must accidentally be taking the For Dummies version of this class, because I literally got through the test in ten minutes and was like, what? That's it?

I'm glad I didn't waste my time studying for it. Totally ridiculous.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 07, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on February 06, 2016, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
I'm supposed to be working on my physics lab. I hate physics. I sincerely hate it. It's BORING AS FUCK.

What was the experiment for this one?

The little cart on a track. We couldn't get loggerpro to work with the equipment (most of the class couldn't) so we don't have any trial 2 data, which makes the entire lab pretty meaningless.

What do you even do in that situation where the lab equipment doesn't even work right?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Brother Mythos on February 07, 2016, 06:28:28 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 07, 2016, 12:29:21 AM
Physics midterm today. I think that I must accidentally be taking the For Dummies version of this class, because I literally got through the test in ten minutes and was like, what? That's it?

I'm glad I didn't waste my time studying for it. Totally ridiculous.

Are you taking the same 1st semester freshman physics course the physics majors have to take?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Da6s on February 07, 2016, 07:51:04 PM
I lived a 4 minute walk to the Keystone lift and then a 7 minute walk to the breck gondola for 4 years. I would board anywhere from 1-3 times a week, unless it was an insane storm week and I'd get at least 3 or 5 runs a day in for a week+.

I gave up home (CO) for Navy and subsequently father with cancer. I haven't been on a board since March 2015.

I got back last night from 2 days at snowshoe, WV. I rode my ass off.

And I am sooo fucking sore at this point. Holy shit. This feels like being a beginner again. Is this what continuing to get old is like? This is awful. My ass hurts. My back hurts. My arm hurts. My calves are throbbing. My shin is pissed off.

I didn't even fucking fall. Christ hell I'm out of practice. Is it 2020 yet? That's when I think I'm relocating back to CO.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2016, 02:09:58 AM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on February 07, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on February 06, 2016, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
I'm supposed to be working on my physics lab. I hate physics. I sincerely hate it. It's BORING AS FUCK.

What was the experiment for this one?

The little cart on a track. We couldn't get loggerpro to work with the equipment (most of the class couldn't) so we don't have any trial 2 data, which makes the entire lab pretty meaningless.

What do you even do in that situation where the lab equipment doesn't even work right?

Our solution was to just write about why we were unable to answer certain questions because we had no data. Basically, just operating under the principle that if we explain why we needed certain data, we are demonstrating comprehension of the principles we're supposed to be learning.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2016, 02:12:35 AM
Quote from: Gray Area on February 07, 2016, 06:28:28 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 07, 2016, 12:29:21 AM
Physics midterm today. I think that I must accidentally be taking the For Dummies version of this class, because I literally got through the test in ten minutes and was like, what? That's it?

I'm glad I didn't waste my time studying for it. Totally ridiculous.

Are you taking the same 1st semester freshman physics course the physics majors have to take?

Yeah, it's 201; usually physics majors take it in the first term of their sophomore year. I should have taken it three years ago but it always conflicted with a class I actually wanted to take. In fact, that's why I finally broke down and am taking it on Saturday, which totally sucks because it's a waste of the whole fucking day.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2016, 02:13:07 AM
Quote from: Da6s on February 07, 2016, 07:51:04 PM
I lived a 4 minute walk to the Keystone lift and then a 7 minute walk to the breck gondola for 4 years. I would board anywhere from 1-3 times a week, unless it was an insane storm week and I'd get at least 3 or 5 runs a day in for a week+.

I gave up home (CO) for Navy and subsequently father with cancer. I haven't been on a board since March 2015.

I got back last night from 2 days at snowshoe, WV. I rode my ass off.

And I am sooo fucking sore at this point. Holy shit. This feels like being a beginner again. Is this what continuing to get old is like? This is awful. My ass hurts. My back hurts. My arm hurts. My calves are throbbing. My shin is pissed off.

I didn't even fucking fall. Christ hell I'm out of practice. Is it 2020 yet? That's when I think I'm relocating back to CO.

Hey, welcome back!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Da6s on February 09, 2016, 12:29:45 AM
There were riots in Denver last night, off 16th near Champa. Tear gas & rubber bullets were fired into the crowd.

And I was in fucking TN for it.

Fuck cancer. Crushes dreams. Like post-superbowl win parties in an incredible city with riots & insanity.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 10, 2016, 05:44:00 PM
The aforementioned 400lb chronic narrator I work with (I forgot to aforemention that he weighs 400lbs) always brings his lunch in with him.

The other day he brings in a 1.25 liter Mountain Dew and a pack of cheeze-dogs for lunch. So he's belching cheeze-dogs and Mountain Dew by the cubic yard in this 8'X12' vault we work in, and I cannot for the life of me tell if what I'm smelling is what he's eating, or if he shit his pants.

On the up-side of life, I tested completely out of all the basic pre-requisites for tech school. Needed a minimum of level 5 on all 3 tests, got level 7 on reading and math, and level 6 on finding information. Finished all 3 in a little over 2 hours which, according to the teacher is a new record. The other four guys who started at the same time as I will probably be at it for days.

So I've got that going for me.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 08:16:31 PM
Somewhat surprisingly, my lab team got full credit for the lab report we did on the lab we couldn't collect adequate data for. We just talked a lot about why we couldn't draw conclusions from the available data because of the ramifications of the missing data, and it worked. SCORE.

Now I don't have to stress as much about next week's lab, which is going to be super sketch as I am leaving town on Friday so I have to do a fill-in lab on Wednesday.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 10, 2016, 05:44:00 PM
The aforementioned 400lb chronic narrator I work with (I forgot to aforemention that he weighs 400lbs) always brings his lunch in with him.

The other day he brings in a 1.25 liter Mountain Dew and a pack of cheeze-dogs for lunch. So he's belching cheeze-dogs and Mountain Dew by the cubic yard in this 8'X12' vault we work in, and I cannot for the life of me tell if what I'm smelling is what he's eating, or if he shit his pants.

On the up-side of life, I tested completely out of all the basic pre-requisites for tech school. Needed a minimum of level 5 on all 3 tests, got level 7 on reading and math, and level 6 on finding information. Finished all 3 in a little over 2 hours which, according to the teacher is a new record. The other four guys who started at the same time as I will probably be at it for days.

So I've got that going for me.

Jesus, unless he hates you and is deliberately trying to make your life miserable, that guy has terrible social hygiene.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 10:48:41 PM
I don't know whether I mentioned it, but the big ziploc bag of gonads that was in the fume hood on Monday is still in the fume hood. Just sitting there. Open.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 10, 2016, 11:19:30 PM
Snakey gonads?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 11:24:13 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 10, 2016, 11:19:30 PM
Snakey gonads?

Yep! I assume someone is planning on liquifying them to do a blot assay, but in the meantime they're just sitting there being super gross.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
After nearly a week...new episode up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWdsqLivZY).
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
After nearly a week...new episode up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWdsqLivZY).

Nice!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
After nearly a week...new episode up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWdsqLivZY).

Nice!

I wrecked my voice doing a 90 minute video this afternoon.

Not the one linked...one or two episodes from now.  Did Red Eagle, Valtheim Towers and Saarthal in 3 episodes.  My character is almost as sore and bruised as my throat.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 11, 2016, 02:26:54 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 10, 2016, 05:44:00 PM
The aforementioned 400lb chronic narrator I work with (I forgot to aforemention that he weighs 400lbs) always brings his lunch in with him.

The other day he brings in a 1.25 liter Mountain Dew and a pack of cheeze-dogs for lunch. So he's belching cheeze-dogs and Mountain Dew by the cubic yard in this 8'X12' vault we work in, and I cannot for the life of me tell if what I'm smelling is what he's eating, or if he shit his pants.

On the up-side of life, I tested completely out of all the basic pre-requisites for tech school. Needed a minimum of level 5 on all 3 tests, got level 7 on reading and math, and level 6 on finding information. Finished all 3 in a little over 2 hours which, according to the teacher is a new record. The other four guys who started at the same time as I will probably be at it for days.

So I've got that going for me.

Jesus, unless he hates you and is deliberately trying to make your life miserable, that guy has terrible social hygiene.

I think it's the latter, I'm just not sure if he's oblivious, or just doesn't care. Fortunately, the way the work schedule is set up, we don't spend that much time in the vault at the same time. One of us is either doing the trash, fixing the change bucket, or covering the other for lunch/breaks. I've just been spraying the vault with store brand room deodorizer that I brought in with me when I'm in and he's out. The can is almost empty. I don't think I'm the only one who's been using it.

I'm springing for the double strength Febreeze next time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2016, 02:43:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
After nearly a week...new episode up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWdsqLivZY).

Nice!

I wrecked my voice doing a 90 minute video this afternoon.

Not the one linked...one or two episodes from now.  Did Red Eagle, Valtheim Towers and Saarthal in 3 episodes.  My character is almost as sore and bruised as my throat.

Jesus, what were you DOING? I suppose I should anticipate turning the volume down when you post that one.  :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2016, 02:44:52 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 11, 2016, 02:26:54 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 10, 2016, 05:44:00 PM
The aforementioned 400lb chronic narrator I work with (I forgot to aforemention that he weighs 400lbs) always brings his lunch in with him.

The other day he brings in a 1.25 liter Mountain Dew and a pack of cheeze-dogs for lunch. So he's belching cheeze-dogs and Mountain Dew by the cubic yard in this 8'X12' vault we work in, and I cannot for the life of me tell if what I'm smelling is what he's eating, or if he shit his pants.

On the up-side of life, I tested completely out of all the basic pre-requisites for tech school. Needed a minimum of level 5 on all 3 tests, got level 7 on reading and math, and level 6 on finding information. Finished all 3 in a little over 2 hours which, according to the teacher is a new record. The other four guys who started at the same time as I will probably be at it for days.

So I've got that going for me.

Jesus, unless he hates you and is deliberately trying to make your life miserable, that guy has terrible social hygiene.

I think it's the latter, I'm just not sure if he's oblivious, or just doesn't care. Fortunately, the way the work schedule is set up, we don't spend that much time in the vault at the same time. One of us is either doing the trash, fixing the change bucket, or covering the other for lunch/breaks. I've just been spraying the vault with store brand room deodorizer that I brought in with me when I'm in and he's out. The can is almost empty. I don't think I'm the only one who's been using it.

I'm springing for the double strength Febreeze next time.

I kinda feel bad for the guy, it seems like at no point did his parents give him the usual "how to be pleasant to be around" talks.

Or, maybe they did and he doesn't care.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2016, 02:45:55 AM
I'm in the lab after hours subbing slides. Because science is slow and tedious, and I didn't give myself enough time this afternoon before the lab meeting so I'm finishing now.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2016, 02:43:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
After nearly a week...new episode up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWdsqLivZY).

Nice!

I wrecked my voice doing a 90 minute video this afternoon.

Not the one linked...one or two episodes from now.  Did Red Eagle, Valtheim Towers and Saarthal in 3 episodes.  My character is almost as sore and bruised as my throat.

Jesus, what were you DOING? I suppose I should anticipate turning the volume down when you post that one.  :lulz:

Killing all the things.  I just got caught up in the moment, mostly.  Started the first major questline, and then did the first quest associated with it.  Almost froze to death.  The usual.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2016, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 11, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2016, 02:43:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
After nearly a week...new episode up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWdsqLivZY).

Nice!

I wrecked my voice doing a 90 minute video this afternoon.

Not the one linked...one or two episodes from now.  Did Red Eagle, Valtheim Towers and Saarthal in 3 episodes.  My character is almost as sore and bruised as my throat.

Jesus, what were you DOING? I suppose I should anticipate turning the volume down when you post that one.  :lulz:

Killing all the things.  I just got caught up in the moment, mostly.  Started the first major questline, and then did the first quest associated with it.  Almost froze to death.  The usual.

I want to play game. :( Soon, all this school madness will be over and I will have a temporary reprieve in which to play Skyrim.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2016, 06:30:26 PM
Had my mock interview yesterday, and my research advisor said that I did excellently and she thinks I will nail the real deal. I sure hope so! Today I pick up my suit pants.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on February 11, 2016, 08:02:51 PM
Awesome! 
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 11, 2016, 09:46:51 PM
Woot!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 12:09:43 AM
Thanks!

I hace pance-suit. I hace professionally-looking blouse things. I am ready!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 03:59:07 AM
Today, I noticed that someone had added me to a politics and sociology group, so I checked it out. It was full of semi-familiar names, I assume from other Discordian groups. The dialogue, though, revolved almost entirely around racism and feminism, and as I read through I realized exactly what the driving factor behind "disco" FB groups is; most of these people are actually stupid as fuck. I mean, just plain plumb-bob stupid. They're in there DEBATING THINGS THAT HAVE FACTUAL ANSWERS THEY COULD JUST LOOK UP. There were a few people with functional intellects fighting the good fight, but it was pretty evident that they were frustrated and discouraged by the tide of idiocy pressing back at them.

So that kind of made me wonder; due in large part to this forum, and well as the members of the Pigdog Cabal who introduced me to Discordianism in the Bay area ca. 1993, I am accustomed to Discordians being some of the smartest people I know, as well as the least likely to cling to outdated modes of thinking (status quo of racism, sexism, etc.) simply because they're comfortable. These FB Discos are (mostly) blithering fucking idiots with little education and minimal critical thinking skills, dinosaurically defending 20th-century-status-quo modes of thought. They seem, in many ways, to be the opposite of neophiles; it's more like some of them are using "disco" as a cover for their teabagger impulses. What is it that attracts them to Discordianism, then? Is it that they perceive it as a philosophy in which reality and critical thinking can be set aside completely, allowing them to feel smart in a reality where empirical facts are relegated to the status of mere opinion? Do they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 12, 2016, 12:33:29 PM
It seems to me like Facebook selects for the lowest common denominator - perhaps it is inevitable that as the pool of people that can have input into a topic increases the average intelligence goes down. When everyone has a voice it's not the most insightful that will rise to the top it's the voice that the majority agrees with. This is a problem that sites like Reddit face as well.

I think that this forum, in contrast, benefits from it's smaller membership. It helps that a lot of the regulars are, as you mention, pretty smart.

I've noticed that there is a sort of self-protecting attitude in this forum where any posts/posters that are of the Facebook Disco variety get so verbally harangued they either give up or change their tune pretty sharpish. It makes for quite an intimidating posting atmosphere. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Xaz on February 12, 2016, 12:33:29 PM
It seems to me like Facebook selects for the lowest common denominator - perhaps it is inevitable that as the pool of people that can have input into a topic increases the average intelligence goes down. When everyone has a voice it's not the most insightful that will rise to the top it's the voice that the majority agrees with. This is a problem that sites like Reddit face as well.

I think that this forum, in contrast, benefits from it's smaller membership. It helps that a lot of the regulars are, as you mention, pretty smart.

I've noticed that there is a sort of self-protecting attitude in this forum where any posts/posters that are of the Facebook Disco variety get so verbally harangued they either give up or change their tune pretty sharpish. It makes for quite an intimidating posting atmosphere. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Yeah, I think you have good points about both the self-selection on Facebook and the protective nature of the forums. I was thinking last night about the few decent groups I'm in on Facebook, and what they all seem to have in common is a combination of good admins and a low tolerance for bullshit. It seems like if you don't call the bullshit out, bullshitters proliferate until all you're left with is noise and no signal.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 02:51:45 PM
Or you end up with the one-trick ponies who have figured out one way to get people to pay attention to them, so they basically do it over and over and over and over and over again. It's actually kind of sad.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 12, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
QuoteDo they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?

Yes.

QuoteI think that this forum, in contrast, benefits from it's smaller membership. It helps that a lot of the regulars are, as you mention, pretty smart.

No. This leads to SGITR.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 12, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
QuoteDo they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?

Yes.

QuoteI think that this forum, in contrast, benefits from it's smaller membership. It helps that a lot of the regulars are, as you mention, pretty smart.

No. This leads to SGITR.

You don't become a SGiTR by getting used to being one of many smart people. You get it by getting used to being the only smart person around for so long that you come to assume  that you are the only smart person everywhere you go. I actually think that Facebook groups foster the phenomenon, because if you happen to be one above-average person in a pool of morons, pretty soon you come to assume that you'll always be the smartest person in any given company. I think that's why so many people come here to tell us what; it worked on Facebook, and they think they'll just pop in and become instant celebrities here. Then they spout some stupid bullshit, and instead of becoming the adoring fanbase they expected, people here go "Yeah actually I think that was pretty bad reasoning, let me explain why". Butthurt ensues, and ultimately they decide to go back to Facebook or Reddit or Tumblr or Twitter, where they have a lowest-common-denominator crowd to tell them how smart they sound when they use big words.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 12, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
One of the smartest facebook groups I'm part of has almost no-one giving their personal opinions.

The problem is Facebook encourages people to think their opinions are important, when they're mostly junk and garbage.  I'm also semi-convinced the current 20something generation has been chewing lead paint chips, because someone told them it was bad and they wanted to be contrarian.  FB is no worse than Reddit...which does suggest an age and possibly social media thing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 12, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 12, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
QuoteDo they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?

Yes.

QuoteI think that this forum, in contrast, benefits from it's smaller membership. It helps that a lot of the regulars are, as you mention, pretty smart.

No. This leads to SGITR.

You don't become a SGiTR by getting used to being one of many smart people. You get it by getting used to being the only smart person around for so long that you come to assume  that you are the only smart person everywhere you go. I actually think that Facebook groups foster the phenomenon, because if you happen to be one above-average person in a pool of morons, pretty soon you come to assume that you'll always be the smartest person in any given company. I think that's why so many people come here to tell us what; it worked on Facebook, and they think they'll just pop in and become instant celebrities here. Then they spout some stupid bullshit, and instead of becoming the adoring fanbase they expected, people here go "Yeah actually I think that was pretty bad reasoning, let me explain why". Butthurt ensues, and ultimately they decide to go back to Facebook or Reddit or Tumblr or Twitter, where they have a lowest-common-denominator crowd to tell them how smart they sound when they use big words.

I'm tempted to give an example using RWHN but I suspect I would only prove your point further.

Conceded.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 12, 2016, 03:52:15 PM
Reading a lot of the posts here makes me feel dumb on the daily.

It's a good kind of dumb though - dumb by comparison rather than dumb by association.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 12, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 12, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
QuoteDo they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?

Yes.

QuoteI think that this forum, in contrast, benefits from it's smaller membership. It helps that a lot of the regulars are, as you mention, pretty smart.

No. This leads to SGITR.

You don't become a SGiTR by getting used to being one of many smart people. You get it by getting used to being the only smart person around for so long that you come to assume  that you are the only smart person everywhere you go. I actually think that Facebook groups foster the phenomenon, because if you happen to be one above-average person in a pool of morons, pretty soon you come to assume that you'll always be the smartest person in any given company. I think that's why so many people come here to tell us what; it worked on Facebook, and they think they'll just pop in and become instant celebrities here. Then they spout some stupid bullshit, and instead of becoming the adoring fanbase they expected, people here go "Yeah actually I think that was pretty bad reasoning, let me explain why". Butthurt ensues, and ultimately they decide to go back to Facebook or Reddit or Tumblr or Twitter, where they have a lowest-common-denominator crowd to tell them how smart they sound when they use big words.

Facebook groups are really fascinating. It's just Dunning Kruger all over the place. One particularly strange event was when some dude was trying to give legal advice to someone, and the actual lawyer in the conversation was like, "seriously, don't listen to this guy, he's giving you terrible advice."
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 12, 2016, 09:56:22 PM
Hi guys, I hope you've been well.  Yes, I know...but the thing is, you can't spend so many years in a community and just forget about it like that.  I know we had a falling out over all of the marijuana stuff, and that really sucks.  We did a lot of cool stuff before all of that happened.  The Black Iron Prison stuff was epic and was seriously one cool piece of work this group put out.  I remember the days on end of riffing on ideas in the BIP subforum, that was some cool shit.  And despite what you all think of me now, I can report, at least, that I have incorporated quite a bit of Think For Yourself, Schmuck into my work.

Here's the deal, I'm pretty burned out on the marijuana stuff.  Once this damned election in Maine is over, I'm out.  I still think legalization is a fucking stupid idea, but I've got bigger fish to fry.  My goal now is to try to have far fewer people dying from heroin overdoses.  It's bad here.  And I think we can tie it to some BIP-ish stuff.  People are looking for answers in an IV.  We need to help them see more pathways, but we need to not make them feel like worthless piles of shit, but society wants to tell them they are worthless piles of shit every day.  That's my raison d'etre these days.  The marijuana stuff is so 2012.

Anyhoo, wanted to give a shout.  Go ahead and deep-six this account if you want.  Or, if you want to entertain letting me stick around, I'd like to.  But you'll do what you gotta do.

I love you guys!  Keep it real!

-RWHN
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Don Coyote on February 12, 2016, 10:05:23 PM
Go away
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 12, 2016, 10:41:55 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 12, 2016, 10:05:23 PM
Go away

That, if it's you.

Also this:

(http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/fennario99/988714_614437708589936_1549393573_n.jpg)

If it's not, it's just been too long since that picture has been used anyway.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: hooplala on February 13, 2016, 12:28:34 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 03:59:07 AM
Today, I noticed that someone had added me to a politics and sociology group, so I checked it out. It was full of semi-familiar names, I assume from other Discordian groups. The dialogue, though, revolved almost entirely around racism and feminism, and as I read through I realized exactly what the driving factor behind "disco" FB groups is; most of these people are actually stupid as fuck. I mean, just plain plumb-bob stupid. They're in there DEBATING THINGS THAT HAVE FACTUAL ANSWERS THEY COULD JUST LOOK UP. There were a few people with functional intellects fighting the good fight, but it was pretty evident that they were frustrated and discouraged by the tide of idiocy pressing back at them.

So that kind of made me wonder; due in large part to this forum, and well as the members of the Pigdog Cabal who introduced me to Discordianism in the Bay area ca. 1993, I am accustomed to Discordians being some of the smartest people I know, as well as the least likely to cling to outdated modes of thinking (status quo of racism, sexism, etc.) simply because they're comfortable. These FB Discos are (mostly) blithering fucking idiots with little education and minimal critical thinking skills, dinosaurically defending 20th-century-status-quo modes of thought. They seem, in many ways, to be the opposite of neophiles; it's more like some of them are using "disco" as a cover for their teabagger impulses. What is it that attracts them to Discordianism, then? Is it that they perceive it as a philosophy in which reality and critical thinking can be set aside completely, allowing them to feel smart in a reality where empirical facts are relegated to the status of mere opinion? Do they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?

Two words: anything goes.

My main takeaway from FB discos is that they have severely latched onto that aspect of Discordianism, to the exclusion of every other idea apart from the most obvious memes.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 13, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Ah yes, I remember that WOMP.  Got way too wound up about it.  Trust me, as I've worked in this pot stuff, I've been called everything in the book in the public discourse.  It was kinda silly for me to get so wound up about that. 

That photo is a bit out of date now too.  Last couple of years have aged me quite a bit.  Got more of a Rick Grimes look going on these days. 

So whaddya guys think about this Presidential election?  Pretty damned depressing no?  I think it will be absolutely hilarious if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton.  Trump is the President the US deserves, really.  Don't you think? 

I mean, let's just go that next step and make all of America Reality TeeVee, right?  What a larf!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 13, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Ah yes, I remember that WOMP.  Got way too wound up about it.  Trust me, as I've worked in this pot stuff, I've been called everything in the book in the public discourse.  It was kinda silly for me to get so wound up about that. 

That photo is a bit out of date now too.  Last couple of years have aged me quite a bit.  Got more of a Rick Grimes look going on these days. 

So whaddya guys think about this Presidential election?  Pretty damned depressing no?  I think it will be absolutely hilarious if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton.  Trump is the President the US deserves, really.  Don't you think? 

I mean, let's just go that next step and make all of America Reality TeeVee, right?  What a larf!

Your IP resolves to Amsterdam.  You aren't RWHN.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 13, 2016, 01:44:10 AM
New video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELcikkW4gYY).  Scumbag bandit chief manages to splatter my brains all over a cave.  On the plus side I kill "Ron the Crow", one of those lovely Requiem handplaced enemies.   
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 13, 2016, 01:45:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 13, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Ah yes, I remember that WOMP.  Got way too wound up about it.  Trust me, as I've worked in this pot stuff, I've been called everything in the book in the public discourse.  It was kinda silly for me to get so wound up about that. 

That photo is a bit out of date now too.  Last couple of years have aged me quite a bit.  Got more of a Rick Grimes look going on these days. 

So whaddya guys think about this Presidential election?  Pretty damned depressing no?  I think it will be absolutely hilarious if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton.  Trump is the President the US deserves, really.  Don't you think? 

I mean, let's just go that next step and make all of America Reality TeeVee, right?  What a larf!

Your IP resolves to Amsterdam.  You aren't RWHN.

Ooops.  Well, I went ahead and banned him anyway.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:46:39 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2016, 01:45:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 13, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Ah yes, I remember that WOMP.  Got way too wound up about it.  Trust me, as I've worked in this pot stuff, I've been called everything in the book in the public discourse.  It was kinda silly for me to get so wound up about that. 

That photo is a bit out of date now too.  Last couple of years have aged me quite a bit.  Got more of a Rick Grimes look going on these days. 

So whaddya guys think about this Presidential election?  Pretty damned depressing no?  I think it will be absolutely hilarious if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton.  Trump is the President the US deserves, really.  Don't you think? 

I mean, let's just go that next step and make all of America Reality TeeVee, right?  What a larf!

Your IP resolves to Amsterdam.  You aren't RWHN.

Ooops.  Well, I went ahead and banned him anyway.

Thus saving us HOURS of boredom.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 13, 2016, 01:48:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:46:39 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2016, 01:45:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 13, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Ah yes, I remember that WOMP.  Got way too wound up about it.  Trust me, as I've worked in this pot stuff, I've been called everything in the book in the public discourse.  It was kinda silly for me to get so wound up about that. 

That photo is a bit out of date now too.  Last couple of years have aged me quite a bit.  Got more of a Rick Grimes look going on these days. 

So whaddya guys think about this Presidential election?  Pretty damned depressing no?  I think it will be absolutely hilarious if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton.  Trump is the President the US deserves, really.  Don't you think? 

I mean, let's just go that next step and make all of America Reality TeeVee, right?  What a larf!

Your IP resolves to Amsterdam.  You aren't RWHN.

Ooops.  Well, I went ahead and banned him anyway.

Thus saving us HOURS of boredom.

True.  Also checked, the company that provides the IP is known for having a few proxy servers around.  This does appear to be one of them.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:49:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2016, 01:48:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:46:39 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2016, 01:45:45 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 13, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Ah yes, I remember that WOMP.  Got way too wound up about it.  Trust me, as I've worked in this pot stuff, I've been called everything in the book in the public discourse.  It was kinda silly for me to get so wound up about that. 

That photo is a bit out of date now too.  Last couple of years have aged me quite a bit.  Got more of a Rick Grimes look going on these days. 

So whaddya guys think about this Presidential election?  Pretty damned depressing no?  I think it will be absolutely hilarious if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton.  Trump is the President the US deserves, really.  Don't you think? 

I mean, let's just go that next step and make all of America Reality TeeVee, right?  What a larf!

Your IP resolves to Amsterdam.  You aren't RWHN.

Ooops.  Well, I went ahead and banned him anyway.

Thus saving us HOURS of boredom.

True.  Also checked, the company that provides the IP is known for having a few proxy servers around.  This does appear to be one of them.

He was never that smart.  Possible potard.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 02:31:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 12, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
One of the smartest facebook groups I'm part of has almost no-one giving their personal opinions.

The problem is Facebook encourages people to think their opinions are important, when they're mostly junk and garbage.  I'm also semi-convinced the current 20something generation has been chewing lead paint chips, because someone told them it was bad and they wanted to be contrarian.  FB is no worse than Reddit...which does suggest an age and possibly social media thing.

I'm intrigued by this "smart group" concept you relay here.

And yeah, people just prance about on Facebook posting their opinions everywhere as if they are filled with the assurance that they're important. They get enjoyably riled up when you tell them their opinion is irrelevant, too.  :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 02:32:31 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on February 12, 2016, 09:56:22 PM
Hi guys, I hope you've been well.  -snip-
-RWHN

Hey, speaking of the lowest common denominator!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 02:34:01 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 13, 2016, 12:28:34 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 03:59:07 AM
Today, I noticed that someone had added me to a politics and sociology group, so I checked it out. It was full of semi-familiar names, I assume from other Discordian groups. The dialogue, though, revolved almost entirely around racism and feminism, and as I read through I realized exactly what the driving factor behind "disco" FB groups is; most of these people are actually stupid as fuck. I mean, just plain plumb-bob stupid. They're in there DEBATING THINGS THAT HAVE FACTUAL ANSWERS THEY COULD JUST LOOK UP. There were a few people with functional intellects fighting the good fight, but it was pretty evident that they were frustrated and discouraged by the tide of idiocy pressing back at them.

So that kind of made me wonder; due in large part to this forum, and well as the members of the Pigdog Cabal who introduced me to Discordianism in the Bay area ca. 1993, I am accustomed to Discordians being some of the smartest people I know, as well as the least likely to cling to outdated modes of thinking (status quo of racism, sexism, etc.) simply because they're comfortable. These FB Discos are (mostly) blithering fucking idiots with little education and minimal critical thinking skills, dinosaurically defending 20th-century-status-quo modes of thought. They seem, in many ways, to be the opposite of neophiles; it's more like some of them are using "disco" as a cover for their teabagger impulses. What is it that attracts them to Discordianism, then? Is it that they perceive it as a philosophy in which reality and critical thinking can be set aside completely, allowing them to feel smart in a reality where empirical facts are relegated to the status of mere opinion? Do they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?

Two words: anything goes.

My main takeaway from FB discos is that they have severely latched onto that aspect of Discordianism, to the exclusion of every other idea apart from the most obvious memes.

Yes. My burning question is, why? The only real answer I have so far is that they aren't very bright, so pretending that nothing has meaning anyway allows them to feel smart without all the work of actually learning something.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 02:34:57 AM
Quote from: Legate Gene O'Mick, PhD on February 12, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 12, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
QuoteDo they feel like it gives them license to be "edgy", using the excuse of not being "PC"?

Yes.

QuoteI think that this forum, in contrast, benefits from it's smaller membership. It helps that a lot of the regulars are, as you mention, pretty smart.

No. This leads to SGITR.

You don't become a SGiTR by getting used to being one of many smart people. You get it by getting used to being the only smart person around for so long that you come to assume  that you are the only smart person everywhere you go. I actually think that Facebook groups foster the phenomenon, because if you happen to be one above-average person in a pool of morons, pretty soon you come to assume that you'll always be the smartest person in any given company. I think that's why so many people come here to tell us what; it worked on Facebook, and they think they'll just pop in and become instant celebrities here. Then they spout some stupid bullshit, and instead of becoming the adoring fanbase they expected, people here go "Yeah actually I think that was pretty bad reasoning, let me explain why". Butthurt ensues, and ultimately they decide to go back to Facebook or Reddit or Tumblr or Twitter, where they have a lowest-common-denominator crowd to tell them how smart they sound when they use big words.

Facebook groups are really fascinating. It's just Dunning Kruger all over the place. One particularly strange event was when some dude was trying to give legal advice to someone, and the actual lawyer in the conversation was like, "seriously, don't listen to this guy, he's giving you terrible advice."

:lulz: That's classic.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 13, 2016, 02:44:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 02:31:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 12, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
One of the smartest facebook groups I'm part of has almost no-one giving their personal opinions.

The problem is Facebook encourages people to think their opinions are important, when they're mostly junk and garbage.  I'm also semi-convinced the current 20something generation has been chewing lead paint chips, because someone told them it was bad and they wanted to be contrarian.  FB is no worse than Reddit...which does suggest an age and possibly social media thing.

I'm intrigued by this "smart group" concept you relay here.

And yeah, people just prance about on Facebook posting their opinions everywhere as if they are filled with the assurance that they're important. They get enjoyably riled up when you tell them their opinion is irrelevant, too.  :lulz:

It's a geopolitics and political economy group, started by someone on my friendslist.  We mostly just post links to thinkpieces and analysis on those topics.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 05:29:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2016, 02:44:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 02:31:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 12, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
One of the smartest facebook groups I'm part of has almost no-one giving their personal opinions.

The problem is Facebook encourages people to think their opinions are important, when they're mostly junk and garbage.  I'm also semi-convinced the current 20something generation has been chewing lead paint chips, because someone told them it was bad and they wanted to be contrarian.  FB is no worse than Reddit...which does suggest an age and possibly social media thing.

I'm intrigued by this "smart group" concept you relay here.

And yeah, people just prance about on Facebook posting their opinions everywhere as if they are filled with the assurance that they're important. They get enjoyably riled up when you tell them their opinion is irrelevant, too.  :lulz:

It's a geopolitics and political economy group, started by someone on my friendslist.  We mostly just post links to thinkpieces and analysis on those topics.

Oh, I imagine that's very good, and also very over my head. I'll just stick to asking you your opinion of things.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 13, 2016, 05:13:45 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 05:29:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 13, 2016, 02:44:03 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2016, 02:31:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 12, 2016, 03:25:59 PM
One of the smartest facebook groups I'm part of has almost no-one giving their personal opinions.

The problem is Facebook encourages people to think their opinions are important, when they're mostly junk and garbage.  I'm also semi-convinced the current 20something generation has been chewing lead paint chips, because someone told them it was bad and they wanted to be contrarian.  FB is no worse than Reddit...which does suggest an age and possibly social media thing.

I'm intrigued by this "smart group" concept you relay here.

And yeah, people just prance about on Facebook posting their opinions everywhere as if they are filled with the assurance that they're important. They get enjoyably riled up when you tell them their opinion is irrelevant, too.  :lulz:

It's a geopolitics and political economy group, started by someone on my friendslist.  We mostly just post links to thinkpieces and analysis on those topics.

Oh, I imagine that's very good, and also very over my head. I'll just stick to asking you your opinion of things.

Eh, it's not too theoretical or anything.  Most people there, while politically quite informed, aren't necessarily scholars on the subject.

I think however, for the moment, they mostly want to keep it to a tight circle of people.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 13, 2016, 05:15:44 PM
Speaking of tight circles of people, I have valiantly hidden behind a rock and valiantly spammed ghost wolf and valiantly stabbed bandits in the face in order to conquer Valtheim Towers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L4m-eTZYu8).  Yes, that is somewhere in the region of 20+ bandits.  Yes, they are angry.  Yes, I savescummed the shit out of that venture.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Da6s on February 13, 2016, 10:43:09 PM
I made a whole thread for it, but Justice Scalia is dead. And somewhere, an Eagle gets its wings.

Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on February 14, 2016, 04:15:01 AM
True story: one of our apartment tenants converted their apartment into a drug den. I use the word "converted", but really I mean they just kind of strewed what looks like a year's worth of trash, cigarette butts, and used syringes on the carpet. There is a giant gaping hole in the ceiling. The closet doors are ripped off their hinges. The sink appears to be awash in human blood. The bathtub is a thing of black mold and horror.

And of course, the tenants are nowhere to be found.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2016, 10:49:16 AM
Sounds like most of our rooms, except they don't have bathtubs.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on February 14, 2016, 05:29:21 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 14, 2016, 10:49:16 AM
Sounds like most of our rooms, except they don't have bathtubs.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2016, 05:41:25 PM
Chinese students, as a rule, are pretty well behaved.  But they can't clean a room for the life of them.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2016, 11:31:00 AM
90 minute video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_DvdwFdsOI) hype.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on February 15, 2016, 11:46:28 PM
Hey birther cubemate hates Trump.  But he LOVES Cruz.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2016, 02:09:08 AM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 15, 2016, 11:46:28 PM
Hey birther cubemate hates Trump.  But he LOVES Cruz.

:lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2016, 02:19:42 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/943913_1051944154857240_1766563239046240116_n.jpg?oh=3e45c10c4c96362ff6daac9d62d51572&oe=5732140F)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on February 16, 2016, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2016, 02:19:42 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/943913_1051944154857240_1766563239046240116_n.jpg?oh=3e45c10c4c96362ff6daac9d62d51572&oe=5732140F)

:lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2016, 04:56:56 PM
Overheard today:

"RIP Antonin Scalia (1936-1516)".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 16, 2016, 05:17:12 PM
I want to create a pention to ban time-travelling Antonin Scalia's.

Something about having to prep ourselfs from Supreme Courts which will use our own legal precedents against us

or

:?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 16, 2016, 05:17:12 PM
I want to create a pention to ban time-travelling Antonin Scalia's.

Something about having to prep ourselfs from Supreme Courts which will use our own legal precedents against us

or

:?

:lulz:  That never gets old.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 16, 2016, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Trivial <insert joke> on February 15, 2016, 11:46:28 PM
Hey birther cubemate hates Trump.  But he LOVES Cruz.

I loved watching Cruz almost get into a slapfight with Rubio in the 9th debate.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 17, 2016, 07:03:38 PM
A bunch of guys in my Industrial Electrical Maintenance class got into a discussion about politics last night.

I got the impression that everything they know about politics, they learned from Facebook memes.

Surprise!


BTW, did yuo know Bernie sanders was on welfare right up until he got elected to office, and only has $300,000.  You'd think Senators got paid better than that.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Da6s on February 17, 2016, 07:46:02 PM
Currently on a screen share for work. A partner company is presenting. The guy who's sharing his screen still has his last search displaying in his browser.

"What to tell someone when you lay them off"

He's had this window open for 45 minutes. He hasn't noticed. No one's chimed in. I'm just waiting for his realization. There's no way to notify him without him bringing attention to it. It's a partner company and not internal, so it's not on my team.

But still.

Wow. This is beautiful. This is real life.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 17, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.

I hope that's how it is here in TN. All the ones I know are conservative as hell, but that's mostly family, and only a couple of them are actually bad enough to support Trump.

I did get the impression that not everyone in the room was on board with what these guys were saying, though. It seemed like they just didn't want to start an argument, which would probably be pointless, anyway. Also, good-ol-boys have a well earned reputation of fucking up your car (or class project) if they decide they don't like you. That's why, if anybody asks, I'm voting Vermin Supreme.

We had a tour of some people come through the shop in my first week. I distinctly overheard one of them (an older woman) say something like "Go Bernie Sanders!" as they were going out the door. No idea who they were.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Da6s on February 17, 2016, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.

I hope that's how it is here in TN. All the ones I know are conservative as hell, but that's mostly family, and only a couple of them are actually bad enough to support Trump.

Where in this shithole home state of mine are you located? I've roughly 4 months of good-son-cancer-assisting left before i either return to knox or flee the state in favor of Asheville, NC. Then another 4 or 5 years to see how he progresses before I GTFO the south altogether for forever this time.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.

I hope that's how it is here in TN.

:cry:  I will remember youuuuuu  :cry:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 18, 2016, 04:39:02 AM
Quote from: Da6s on February 17, 2016, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.

I hope that's how it is here in TN. All the ones I know are conservative as hell, but that's mostly family, and only a couple of them are actually bad enough to support Trump.

Where in this shithole home state of mine are you located? I've roughly 4 months of good-son-cancer-assisting left before i either return to knox or flee the state in favor of Asheville, NC. Then another 4 or 5 years to see how he progresses before I GTFO the south altogether for forever this time.

PM sent. I'd rather be somewhere else, but I'm kind of settled here.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 18, 2016, 04:41:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.

I hope that's how it is here in TN.

:cry:  I will remember youuuuuu  :cry:


They're not too hard to deal with. If I don't make Jesus Jokes, and compliment their tractor, I should be fine.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Da6s on February 18, 2016, 07:38:16 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 18, 2016, 04:41:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.

I hope that's how it is here in TN.

:cry:  I will remember youuuuuu  :cry:


They're not too hard to deal with. If I don't make Jesus Jokes, and compliment their tractor, I should be fine.

Don't forget to bash Muslims, gays, atheists, intellectuals, liberals, and/or Obama to close out your conversations.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on February 18, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
Hnnnng tonight I am finally getting my head around a side-channel attack on encrypted data called a Padding Oracle, which I use all the time and am fairly familiar with, but not comfortable enough on the technical detail to explain to someone else, which is the problem I'm fixing with tonight's recap. The problem is that I should instead have gone to bed and as a result I'm glaring at a page full of crypto math and code, angrily sipping whisky and muttering to myself.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 01:18:32 PM
Well, at least this probably applies so you'll make good progress for about 20-30 mins at some point.
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ballmer_peak.png)
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 18, 2016, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Da6s on February 18, 2016, 07:38:16 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 18, 2016, 04:41:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 17, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
Also, he's an admitted Socialist, and socialism is BAD.

Mind you, this is coming from a bunch of guys who are getting financial aid from the government to go to school.

The surprise will be coming when they hit the trades for real.  Most tradesmen are liberal as hell.

I hope that's how it is here in TN.

:cry:  I will remember youuuuuu  :cry:


They're not too hard to deal with. If I don't make Jesus Jokes, and compliment their tractor, I should be fine.

Don't forget to bash Muslims, gays, atheists, intellectuals, liberals, and/or Obama to close out your conversations.

And everything they don't like is unconstitutional.

Gay Marriage - Unconstitutional
Ban on forced school prayer - Unconstitutional
Obamacare - Unconstitutional
Taking dukes of Hazzard off of TV Land - Unconstitutional
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
You missed an obvious one:

Quoting the constitution - Highly unconstitutional.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 18, 2016, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
You missed an obvious one:

Quoting the constitution - Highly unconstitutional.

[ptoo]The fowndin fathurs never entendid the konstitooshun to akshully be red. That's why they made it so lawng and borin. That rite cheer is the problum with a Murrica today, TOO MANY LITERITS. Back in 1776, only abowt two hunnert pepple new how to reed. We need tuh git back tuh are roots![/ptoo]
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 18, 2016, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
You missed an obvious one:

Quoting the constitution - Highly unconstitutional.

[ptoo]The fowndin fathurs never entendid the konstitooshun to akshully be red. That's why they made it so lawng and borin. That rite cheer is the problum with a Murrica today, TOO MANY LITERITS. Back in 1776, only abowt two hunnert pepple new how to reed. We need tuh git back tuh are roots![/ptoo]

Better, but the you lost impact with correct punctuation. Please add at least 4 "!?!"'s at random points, preferably in the middle of sentences.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 18, 2016, 04:03:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 18, 2016, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
You missed an obvious one:

Quoting the constitution - Highly unconstitutional.

[ptoo]The fowndin fathurs never entendid the konstitooshun to akshully be red. That's why they made it so lawng and borin. That rite cheer is the problum with a Murrica today, TOO MANY LITERITS. Back in 1776, only abowt two hunnert pepple new how to reed. We need tuh git back tuh are roots![/ptoo]

Better, but the you lost impact with correct punctuation. Please add at least 4 "!?!"'s at random points, preferably in the middle of sentences.


Also...needs random...elipses.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Bruno on February 18, 2016, 04:38:07 PM
And syntax. Way too much syntax.

One more time:

are Fountin Faters dint right teh constitoot'n !!? fer...no peepl...to reed'n!? if'n they'd a dun...it'd haff moer pitchers?! butt them librel !?! PC OBAMANASHUNS?!!?1 forcin they readen down are chilrans throtes !!?! now an peepel thank it say what...it don't!!?!
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on February 18, 2016, 08:08:46 PM
Learned today that my cousin has lung cancer.  :(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 18, 2016, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 18, 2016, 04:38:07 PM
And syntax. Way too much syntax.

One more time:

are Fountin Faters dint right teh constitoot'n !!? fer...no peepl...to reed'n!? if'n they'd a dun...it'd haff moer pitchers?! butt them librel !?! PC OBAMANASHUNS?!!?1 forcin they readen down are chilrans throtes !!?! now an peepel thank it say what...it don't!!?!

Congratulations, this is almost youtube quality commentary now.

For bonus points, translate into reddit.

And Fuck Cancer.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2016, 08:19:19 PM
Quote from: Da6s on February 17, 2016, 07:46:02 PM
Currently on a screen share for work. A partner company is presenting. The guy who's sharing his screen still has his last search displaying in his browser.

"What to tell someone when you lay them off"

He's had this window open for 45 minutes. He hasn't noticed. No one's chimed in. I'm just waiting for his realization. There's no way to notify him without him bringing attention to it. It's a partner company and not internal, so it's not on my team.

But still.

Wow. This is beautiful. This is real life.  :horrormirth:

:lulz: That's some Dilbert-level businesscraft, right there.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 19, 2016, 02:41:18 AM
So, just gained a part-time kid.  A very good friend of mine just got his sleeve caught in the legal system.  He's probably not going to go to prison - he's also not guilty of the pseudo-accusations against him, not that that matters - but he's gonna be absent for a bit.  His wife, also a very dear friend of ours, cannot make the bills and the daycare on her salary.  So Jenn is going to babysit for her for the foreseeable future, free of charge (this is one of the reasons I love my wife so much).

It's gonna be weird having a toddler in the house again, though my own work hours will mean I won't see the tyke much, myself.

Feeling very bad for Katherine, though.  This is the first time she's ever seen just how arbitrary our system is.  I mean, she's not an idiot, she knew this.  But experiencing it is a whole different thing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:36:35 AM
So I didn't get the new job. I suspect that my bosses pulled a fast one so as not to lose their nice, reliable workhorse, but I have no proof, and it's not worth the trouble to dig. Fuck 'em.

I'm back to pulling as much overtime as I reasonably can just trying to build a money bridge the hell out. Good thing that the call outs and incompetence haven't abated much since the holidays. I've decided that I will secure other employment and just walk when the time comes. No notice. No exit interview. One day the old, reliable workhorse just won't come back.

I'm thinking about seeking work and accommodation in the Madison area. It's about halfway between my hometown and LaCrosse in terms of travel time, so I'll be able to visit friends on both sides of the state pretty easily while establishing even more contacts in the central area of the state.

Of course I have no idea how things will actually play out at this point.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2016, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:36:35 AM
So I didn't get the new job. I suspect that my bosses pulled a fast one so as not to lose their nice, reliable workhorse, but I have no proof, and it's not worth the trouble to dig. Fuck 'em.

I know that feeling.

On the application, where it says "may we contact your present employer", you always say "no".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 04:38:06 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2016, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:36:35 AM
So I didn't get the new job. I suspect that my bosses pulled a fast one so as not to lose their nice, reliable workhorse, but I have no proof, and it's not worth the trouble to dig. Fuck 'em.

I know that feeling.

On the application, where it says "may we contact your present employer", you always say "no".

That is the plan sir. I'm very proud of my work and wish I could use my current employer as a reference, but I just don't want them to see it coming. It's spiteful, but they've earned my contempt several times over already. I don't come to real contempt very easily, but when it's there and nothing I do seems able to change the source of it I do tend to cut out what ails me. This has been at least a year in the making.

I have some very fine letters of recommendation from my dept manager and supervisor if a prospect wants a sense of my ability.


The irony is that having shed most of my emotional attachment to the organization and it's success and needing a fair amount of cash and time to plan my move they will probably see some of my best work yet in terms of hours covered and asses saved without dissent. Then it's going away one day.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2016, 05:45:59 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 04:38:06 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2016, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:36:35 AM
So I didn't get the new job. I suspect that my bosses pulled a fast one so as not to lose their nice, reliable workhorse, but I have no proof, and it's not worth the trouble to dig. Fuck 'em.

I know that feeling.

On the application, where it says "may we contact your present employer", you always say "no".

That is the plan sir. I'm very proud of my work and wish I could use my current employer as a reference, but I just don't want them to see it coming. It's spiteful, but they've earned my contempt several times over already. I don't come to real contempt very easily, but when it's there and nothing I do seems able to change the source of it I do tend to cut out what ails me. This has been at least a year in the making.

I have some very fine letters of recommendation from my dept manager and supervisor if a prospect wants a sense of my ability.


The irony is that having shed most of my emotional attachment to the organization and it's success and needing a fair amount of cash and time to plan my move they will probably see some of my best work yet in terms of hours covered and asses saved without dissent. Then it's going away one day.

There is no good reason for not saying no.  Your loyalty at your current job gets questioned, and if they value you, they will screw you on the reference.  If they hate you, they will also screw you on the reference.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2016, 05:45:59 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 04:38:06 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2016, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:36:35 AM
So I didn't get the new job. I suspect that my bosses pulled a fast one so as not to lose their nice, reliable workhorse, but I have no proof, and it's not worth the trouble to dig. Fuck 'em.

I know that feeling.

On the application, where it says "may we contact your present employer", you always say "no".

That is the plan sir. I'm very proud of my work and wish I could use my current employer as a reference, but I just don't want them to see it coming. It's spiteful, but they've earned my contempt several times over already. I don't come to real contempt very easily, but when it's there and nothing I do seems able to change the source of it I do tend to cut out what ails me. This has been at least a year in the making.

I have some very fine letters of recommendation from my dept manager and supervisor if a prospect wants a sense of my ability.


The irony is that having shed most of my emotional attachment to the organization and it's success and needing a fair amount of cash and time to plan my move they will probably see some of my best work yet in terms of hours covered and asses saved without dissent. Then it's going away one day.

There is no good reason for not saying no.  Your loyalty at your current job gets questioned, and if they value you, they will screw you on the reference.  If they hate you, they will also screw you on the reference.

Yeah. I have used the tactic, when I applied get this current job in fact, of filling in the inevitable "please explain" line with "will discuss upon interview if desired".
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2016, 12:24:37 AM
More Skyrim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=349EP8K1yd0).  Not much happens in this episode, but the ones afterwards aren't so bad.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2016, 02:37:43 AM
My friend Katie (I included her in the Dirtbags story) died last night at her own hand, after a decade of depression issues.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 23, 2016, 02:59:18 AM
Sorry Roger, that's awful.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on February 23, 2016, 03:22:54 AM
Oh, that's terrible. So sorry to hear.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2016, 03:29:29 AM
what's killing me is, no warning whatsoever.  She seemed fine 2 days ago.

ETA:  I mean, she has had a history of very serious depression, but I never saw it gang up on her that fast before.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 23, 2016, 04:42:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2016, 03:29:29 AM
what's killing me is, no warning whatsoever.  She seemed fine 2 days ago.

ETA:  I mean, she has had a history of very serious depression, but I never saw it gang up on her that fast before.

The mind gets tired like a muscle. It fails like one too. Suicidal depressives can be ready to fall and never betray the fact. There's even a terrible tendency to seem better than ever just before the deed because the decision is now made and the anxiety and lack of focus fade with the presumption that soon it will end. This is often the worst part for others as the illusion of hope is in fact impossible to pierce because it's genuine. This state is FAR from inevitable, each case varying as much as individuals do, but the pattern is common to most who genuinely have Death on their back. I wish I didn't know so well.

I'm very sorry sir.  :cry:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on February 23, 2016, 12:57:58 PM
Wow. Sorry man.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 23, 2016, 01:05:54 PM
Sorry to hear that, Roger
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 23, 2016, 04:33:50 PM
More video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxGvnLpRO7k). Nearly die of hypothermia, then I stab a man through the back in the street.  It all makes sense.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 23, 2016, 05:21:06 PM
Sorry to hear it, Roger
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2016, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2016, 03:29:29 AM
what's killing me is, no warning whatsoever.  She seemed fine 2 days ago.

ETA:  I mean, she has had a history of very serious depression, but I never saw it gang up on her that fast before.

Oh fuck, that's awful. Sorry to hear it man, hope you and the immediately involved are OK.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on February 23, 2016, 07:35:19 PM
I'm so sorry to hear, Roger. My boyfriend's best friend, who consequently was also a close friend of mine, took his life a few months ago. While he had admitted to my boyfriend a few days before that he'd tried several months back, he seemed optimistic, making plans for the immediate future and coming summer. A few days later he was gone.

It's been a horrible struggle for the both of us, and I can't even imagine the pain his parents and sister are in. Everyone's lives seem to be in upheaval since then.

Don't want to go on about me, just we've been reeling from a similar experience for the past several months.

Really sorry to hear about it. Hope that her other surviving friends and family are able to bring each other comfort.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
As some of you have probably heard, we lost our Sam, my son, on Sunday. I figured I should probably post about it here because otherwise I can't really post at all. He was experimenting with huffing paint and it went wrong. He was 16. We will hold a memorial service for him on Saturday at 1pm at the American Legion Hall on Alberta St.

It has been and will continue to be a terrible, difficult, impossible time. Thank you for being friends. I don't know how much I will be around because the Internet is a difficult place for me to be right now but sometimes it's a useful distraction.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 24, 2016, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
As some of you have probably heard, we lost our Sam, my son, on Sunday. I figured I should probably post about it here because otherwise I can't really post at all. He was experimenting with huffing paint and it went wrong. He was 16. We will hold a memorial service for him on Saturday at 1pm at the American Legion Hall on Alberta St.

It has been and will continue to be a terrible, difficult, impossible time. Thank you for being friends. I don't know how much I will be around because the Internet is a difficult place for me to be right now but sometimes it's a useful distraction.

I have no words. I will grieve for your son as I go about my day Nigel. I'm so sorry to hear this.  :cry:

Worst year ever.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on February 24, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
I'm so sorry Kalera
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: hooplala on February 24, 2016, 04:23:21 PM
 I am so so sorry.  Words fail, if I can do anything at all, please let me know.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Junkenstein on February 24, 2016, 04:25:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
I'm so sorry Kalera

That, really. There's no words for shit like this.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 24, 2016, 05:01:47 PM
I am very sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Eater of Clowns on February 24, 2016, 05:14:35 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
As some of you have probably heard, we lost our Sam, my son, on Sunday. I figured I should probably post about it here because otherwise I can't really post at all. He was experimenting with huffing paint and it went wrong. He was 16. We will hold a memorial service for him on Saturday at 1pm at the American Legion Hall on Alberta St.

It has been and will continue to be a terrible, difficult, impossible time. Thank you for being friends. I don't know how much I will be around because the Internet is a difficult place for me to be right now but sometimes it's a useful distraction.

I am so, so sorry, Nigel. My condolences to you and your family.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on February 24, 2016, 05:15:08 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 24, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
As some of you have probably heard, we lost our Sam, my son, on Sunday. I figured I should probably post about it here because otherwise I can't really post at all. He was experimenting with huffing paint and it went wrong. He was 16. We will hold a memorial service for him on Saturday at 1pm at the American Legion Hall on Alberta St.

It has been and will continue to be a terrible, difficult, impossible time. Thank you for being friends. I don't know how much I will be around because the Internet is a difficult place for me to be right now but sometimes it's a useful distraction.

God, I am so sorry for your loss, Nigel. I can't even imagine. There's nothing I can say, but you and your family will be in my thoughts.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Nast on February 24, 2016, 05:21:25 PM
Nigel, I am so sorry. There are no words.  :sad:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on February 24, 2016, 05:23:44 PM


Oh, that's so awful.  I can't even imagine.  I'm so sorry.
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Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 24, 2016, 05:46:48 PM
I am sorry for your loss.  :sad:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Freeky on February 24, 2016, 05:55:12 PM
Oh, Nigel.   :sad: 

Fuck you, February.
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Post by: MMIX on February 24, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
That is painfully sad. I am so sorry Nigel.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Brother Mythos on February 24, 2016, 06:32:11 PM
I am very sorry for your loss, Nigel. Please accept my condolences to you and your family.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 24, 2016, 06:38:49 PM
Let me know when your household is ready for cookies, Nigel. I'm sure it's going to be crazy for a bit and I don't know what else to offer. So sorry.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Faust on February 24, 2016, 07:27:15 PM
I'm sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what your family are going through right now.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Ziegejunge on February 24, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
Deepest condolences to you and yours. I don't know how to present my sympathies any more elegantly. :(
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Trivial on February 25, 2016, 04:07:27 AM
 :sad:
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Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on February 25, 2016, 04:14:06 AM
I can't even put any words together. My stomach heart hurts in sympathy of your pain.
I'm so sorry. Genuinely.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 25, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
Massive hugs from me, Nigel.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Sung Low on February 25, 2016, 12:20:55 PM
I don't know what to say but, condolences Nigel. Sincerely.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 25, 2016, 11:27:09 PM
No words. Had to say something. Hang in there :cry:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: minuspace on February 26, 2016, 11:24:51 PM
My deepest condolences, Nigel, I'm so sorry I can't even.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on February 27, 2016, 07:34:57 AM
I'm so sorry Nigel. I wish I could bring you groceries, or give you a hug, or cry with you.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on February 27, 2016, 07:35:40 AM
I'm also sorry to hear about your friend, Roger.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: POFP on February 27, 2016, 10:18:45 PM
This is not at all what I expected to see on my return. I'm deeply sorry for both of your losses. Please take care. Words are incapable of expressing my sympathies.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Pæs on February 28, 2016, 08:06:36 AM
Echoing others' sentiments, Nigel, I am so sorry.

And Roger, I'm sorry to hear about your friend.

Fuck.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 29, 2016, 02:00:52 AM
I am also sorry to hear about your friend, Roger. She sounded like a wonderful, vibrant person from your stories.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 29, 2016, 03:21:55 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 29, 2016, 02:00:52 AM
I am also sorry to hear about your friend, Roger. She sounded like a wonderful, vibrant person from your stories.

She was.  She also swung into and out of horrifying depression.  She was tough as nails and had a truly wicked sense of humor, but that doesn't help when your own brain betrays you.

How are you holding up?
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2016, 02:37:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 29, 2016, 03:21:55 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 29, 2016, 02:00:52 AM
I am also sorry to hear about your friend, Roger. She sounded like a wonderful, vibrant person from your stories.

She was.  She also swung into and out of horrifying depression.  She was tough as nails and had a truly wicked sense of humor, but that doesn't help when your own brain betrays you.

How are you holding up?

It's strange, because I'm still alive and it feels impossible. He took a piece of me with him. I do the things I'm supposed to do, and I love as hard as I did before, and I even smile and laugh and enjoy things, but there is this ache and this dread because even if I forget for a minute, soon enough I'll remember.

The day I came home from my interview I had everything in the world I've ever wanted. Until I got the phone call. Now I have everything but my son.

So I guess I would say that I am putting one one foot in front of the other and I will keep on doing that for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 02, 2016, 02:56:43 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2016, 02:37:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 29, 2016, 03:21:55 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 29, 2016, 02:00:52 AM
I am also sorry to hear about your friend, Roger. She sounded like a wonderful, vibrant person from your stories.

She was.  She also swung into and out of horrifying depression.  She was tough as nails and had a truly wicked sense of humor, but that doesn't help when your own brain betrays you.

How are you holding up?

It's strange, because I'm still alive and it feels impossible. He took a piece of me with him. I do the things I'm supposed to do, and I love as hard as I did before, and I even smile and laugh and enjoy things, but there is this ache and this dread because even if I forget for a minute, soon enough I'll remember.

The day I came home from my interview I had everything in the world I've ever wanted. Until I got the phone call. Now I have everything but my son.

So I guess I would say that I am putting one one foot in front of the other and I will keep on doing that for the rest of my life.

This is awful.  I am so sorry.  I can't even imagine losing a kid.   :cry:
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2016, 06:19:35 AM
Just so everyone knows, the videos are still going up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lFtfBp2kBs).

Hopefully, one more episode and then...the nightmare that is Bleak Falls Barrow.  Actually not that nightmarish, but you will see why it's not a beginner dungeon anymore.  I mean, it doesn't compare with, say, Fellglow Keep, which in turn doesn't compare with a Dwemer ruin, which doesn't compare with Labyrinthian or Blackreach.  Or the Soul Cairn.  Or Apocyrpha.  Or Sovngarde.

But no facerolling through it at level 3, anymore, that's for sure.  And there's a nasty surprise at the end...
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 04, 2016, 03:50:27 PM
I was thinking that maybe it's time to retire this Open Bar a little early. Send it packing.
Title: Re: OPEN BAR: Tough on bars, tough on the causes of bars
Post by: LMNO on March 04, 2016, 04:12:41 PM
Clean house.  Good thinking.