http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUv0GU5rfHg
This is freaky.
It's 2011 and the society of the spectacle is in full bloom
Experiences are a commodity,
gotta collect 'em all,
post 'em, share 'em, bag 'em & tag 'em
If it didn't happen on facebook, it didn't happen
"All that once was directly lived has become mere representation."
-Guy Deboard
Wow. There's something wrong with this on so many friggin levels....
:horrormirth:
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 20, 2011, 05:15:45 PM
Wow. There's something wrong with this on so many friggin levels....
:horrormirth:
Its going to be huge, especially when near field communication comes along.
Aghaghaghaghaghagh
NICE. :lulz: Take that, you tinfoilhatmotherfuckers! Soon your whole life will be in celluloid.
...whether you want it to be or not.
Jesus H. Christomotherfuckinggod
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: I do not have a Facebook account. It creeps me out. This is nuts. And Coca-COLA. Blech. It's just too much crazy.
What country was that in? I don't recognize the alphabet.
Looked to be Hebrew, so probably Israel.
Quote from: Jenne on June 20, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
Looked to be Hebrew, so probably Israel.
It was Hebrew.
Even thinking about this again is making my head explode.
:asplode:
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: I do not have a Facebook account. It creeps me out. This is nuts. And Coca-COLA. Blech. It's just too much crazy.
There were a bunch of things creepy about this.
Wristwatches that COLLECT YOUR DATA with RFID chips and upload what you're doing immediately to Facebook.
Autotagging. Oh gods, the autotagging.
That Coca-Cola has a camp for teenagers. What the hell is up with that?
The whole idea that, as Cram put it, "If it didn't happen on Facebook it didn't happen"
The last part here is the idea that online is the new reality, and that Facebook needs to be integrated even further with what you are physically doing. And also that the real world is a vacation spot from the Internet.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 20, 2011, 07:30:13 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: I do not have a Facebook account. It creeps me out. This is nuts. And Coca-COLA. Blech. It's just too much crazy.
There were a bunch of things creepy about this.
Wristwatches that COLLECT YOUR DATA with RFID chips and upload what you're doing immediately to Facebook.
Autotagging. Oh gods, the autotagging.
That Coca-Cola has a camp for teenagers. What the hell is up with that?
The whole idea that, as Cram put it, "If it didn't happen on Facebook it didn't happen"
The last part here is the idea that online is the new reality, and that Facebook needs to be integrated even further with what you are physically doing. And also that the real world is a vacation spot from the Internet.
NEWSFEED?
Quote from: Khara on June 20, 2011, 07:33:01 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 20, 2011, 07:30:13 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: I do not have a Facebook account. It creeps me out. This is nuts. And Coca-COLA. Blech. It's just too much crazy.
There were a bunch of things creepy about this.
Wristwatches that COLLECT YOUR DATA with RFID chips and upload what you're doing immediately to Facebook.
Autotagging. Oh gods, the autotagging.
That Coca-Cola has a camp for teenagers. What the hell is up with that?
The whole idea that, as Cram put it, "If it didn't happen on Facebook it didn't happen"
The last part here is the idea that online is the new reality, and that Facebook needs to be integrated even further with what you are physically doing. And also that the real world is a vacation spot from the Internet.
NEWSFEED?
Seriously? Fuck yeah!
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 20, 2011, 07:30:13 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: I do not have a Facebook account. It creeps me out. This is nuts. And Coca-COLA. Blech. It's just too much crazy.
There were a bunch of things creepy about this.
Wristwatches that COLLECT YOUR DATA with RFID chips and upload what you're doing immediately to Facebook.
Autotagging. Oh gods, the autotagging.
That Coca-Cola has a camp for teenagers. What the hell is up with that?
The whole idea that, as Cram put it, "If it didn't happen on Facebook it didn't happen"
The last part here is the idea that online is the new reality, and that Facebook needs to be integrated even further with what you are physically doing. And also that the real world is a vacation spot from the Internet.
:lulz:
I warned you people about the future.
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
Rather than being satisfied by the experience itself,
we have become collectors of experiences.
A butterfly, mounted on a pin, kept under glass
A label underneath it reads "23 people Like this".
Another link suggests that we "share" this experience.
I'm guilty of it too. I feel like I need to distinguish myself from this sea of people in order to maintain a sense of self & identity. And facebook is a theater designed for that. These days, if you don't have a facebook account, you may miss the party invitation altogether. I won't disagree that facebook has helped me connect and stay in contact with a lot of wonderful human beings who would otherwise be outside my peripheral vision. But it's also a trap, it is meant to confuse the experience with the image of the experience.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
We're as authentic as Taylor Swift, as real as the crops we grow on Farmville, as relevant as our latest tweet.
If the power ever went out everwhere for 10 minutes, we'd all cease to exist.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
We're as authentic as Taylor Swift, as real as the crops we grow on Farmville, as relevant as our latest tweet.
If the power ever went out everwhere for 10 minutes, we'd all cease to exist.
I have a new appreciation for natural disasters.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
We're as authentic as Taylor Swift, as real as the crops we grow on Farmville, as relevant as our latest tweet.
If the power ever went out everwhere for 10 minutes, we'd all cease to exist.
I have a new appreciation for natural disasters.
So do I. I can put up a sympathy page for them, which people will "Like", which goes a hell of a long way to preventing cholera and starvation among the victims of whatever it was.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
We're as authentic as Taylor Swift, as real as the crops we grow on Farmville, as relevant as our latest tweet.
If the power ever went out everwhere for 10 minutes, we'd all cease to exist.
I have a new appreciation for natural disasters.
So do I. I can put up a sympathy page for them, which people will "Like", which goes a hell of a long way to preventing cholera and starvation among the victims of whatever it was.
when I get invites to those, I automatically post on their page how useless the page is.
I've called it Facefuck for a long, long time. And well, the description still holds. :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
Rather than being satisfied by the experience itself,
we have become collectors of experiences.
A butterfly, mounted on a pin, kept under glass
A label underneath it reads "23 people Like this".
Another link suggests that we "share" this experience.
I'm guilty of it too. I feel like I need to distinguish myself from this sea of people in order to maintain a sense of self & identity. And facebook is a theater designed for that. These days, if you don't have a facebook account, you may miss the party invitation altogether. I won't disagree that facebook has helped me connect and stay in contact with a lot of wonderful human beings who would otherwise be outside my peripheral vision. But it's also a trap, it is meant to confuse the experience with the image of the experience.
I wonder if it's a matter of "giving people what they want" that made it so popular. I mean there are plenty of dirty head tricks in the experience such as the "like" effect/Icon being you symbolically also liking FB. I get some stuff like that, but think it's just (ruthlessly) capitalizing on an instinct people already have for connecting to other people. It can be abused of course,and I can see such things accelerating and strengthening the social walls we already put up with a new layer of technical costs and knowledge. What really disturbed me about the video was getting younglings to get used to being tracked while having meaningless fun. They'll over time associate checking in with at least a mild pleasantness. May also lead to a social world context where dropping off the map or not having a good time are a fast way to get snubbed.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 20, 2011, 08:08:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
We're as authentic as Taylor Swift, as real as the crops we grow on Farmville, as relevant as our latest tweet.
If the power ever went out everwhere for 10 minutes, we'd all cease to exist.
I have a new appreciation for natural disasters.
So do I. I can put up a sympathy page for them, which people will "Like", which goes a hell of a long way to preventing cholera and starvation among the victims of whatever it was.
when I get invites to those, I automatically post on their page how useless the page is.
Go the other way.
Praise them to DEATH for their monumental humanitarian achievement.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 20, 2011, 08:08:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 20, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
We ache to show each other how much fun we're having,
how authentic we are.
We're as authentic as Taylor Swift, as real as the crops we grow on Farmville, as relevant as our latest tweet.
If the power ever went out everwhere for 10 minutes, we'd all cease to exist.
I have a new appreciation for natural disasters.
So do I. I can put up a sympathy page for them, which people will "Like", which goes a hell of a long way to preventing cholera and starvation among the victims of whatever it was.
when I get invites to those, I automatically post on their page how useless the page is.
Go the other way.
Praise them to DEATH for their monumental humanitarian achievement.
LMAO, ok, I have to see the reactions to that. Will do.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
Praise them to DEATH for their monumental humanitarian achievement.
that's fucking brilliant
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 08:47:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
Praise them to DEATH for their monumental humanitarian achievement.
that's fucking brilliant
Some days, I just lie in bed and dream of ways to fuck with people. It's not so much brilliance as persistance.
I lost my internet service for a month.
I don't have a landline or cell.
I was alone for a month.
Nobody not even my childhood friends knew what I was doing.
I was watching movies and composing music.
Internet back on, oh wow hello everyone.
Good thing this technology won't be abused or anything. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 03:25:09 AM
Good thing this technology won't be abused or anything. :lulz:
Deep down, you know everyone has your best interests at heart. How could this go wrong? The world is full of loving, caring people who only want to see beautiful things happen to us all.
I have faith that this will be a wonderful addition to our technological growth if we just give it a chance.
:horrormirth:
soooooo.. no one else got the whole "Jewish people going to a "camp" and getting "tagged" with identifiers, particularly voluntarily", as really fucking creepy?
...no one?
The other implications are really, nothing more than the natural progression of RFID tech, no matter how fucking absurd.
Oh yeah didn't see that.
And judging from all the swimming I'm sure there was a lot of showering going on.
I wonder if that was an auto-newsfeed item.
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on June 21, 2011, 04:02:53 AM
Oh yeah didn't see that.
And judging from all the swimming I'm sure there was a lot of showering going on.
I wonder if that was an auto-newsfeed item.
yeah, so that was creepy enough without you adding in the extra, unnecessary creepy.
whatever. I was just agreeing, I can't help it anymore than you can help whatever you're trying to do here.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 21, 2011, 03:54:45 AM
soooooo.. no one else got the whole "Jewish people going to a "camp" and getting "tagged" with identifiers, particularly voluntarily", as really fucking creepy?
...no one?
The other implications are really, nothing more than the natural progression of RFID tech, no matter how fucking absurd.
Blew right past me. That's even funnier.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 21, 2011, 04:05:30 AM
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on June 21, 2011, 04:02:53 AM
Oh yeah didn't see that.
And judging from all the swimming I'm sure there was a lot of showering going on.
I wonder if that was an auto-newsfeed item.
yeah, so that was creepy enough without you adding in the extra, unnecessary creepy.
The sad fact is, you just can't have too much creepy.
GOING TO THE SHOWERS, BRB!
:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:
Quote from: Subtract Eight! on June 21, 2011, 04:31:45 AM
whatever. I was just agreeing, I can't help it anymore than you can help whatever you're trying to do here.
Meh, you're right.. I was being a bit overly sensitive about the whole thing considering the subject.
Pretty fucking :lulz: :horrormirth: if I indulge my black comedy side.
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
You just rand FIVE IRL MILES here are FIVE FARMVILLE TOKENS and THIRTY EXPERIENCE POINTS :lulz:
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
You just rand FIVE IRL MILES here are FIVE FARMVILLE TOKENS and THIRTY EXPERIENCE POINTS :lulz:
Beat me to it.
Or how about:
You weren't sick yesterday, we show you as being at Lake Patagonia. My, my, aren't you a naughty boy? A naught, unemployed,
unemployable boy.
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
ugh! I saw that one. The guy got all sweaty and out of breath talking about how they were going to offer monetary incentives for giving up your privacy. Creeeepy.
and then he ended it with, "but I'm not going to invent it. You are! Go!"
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 04:52:46 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
You just rand FIVE IRL MILES here are FIVE FARMVILLE TOKENS and THIRTY EXPERIENCE POINTS :lulz:
Beat me to it.
Or how about:
You weren't sick yesterday, we show you as being at Lake Patagonia. My, my, aren't you a naughty boy? A naught, unemployed, unemployable boy.
:lulz:
To further the "IRL stuff for E-stuff"
That really means that really fit people will sell their accounts to fat people for real money so the neckbeards can get their epic doombringers and maxed out stables without having to leave the basement.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 21, 2011, 04:58:00 AM
ugh! I saw that one. The guy got all sweaty and out of breath talking about how they were going to offer monetary incentives for giving up your privacy. Creeeepy.
That's stupid.
*looks at Twitter*
People give that shit away.
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:58:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 04:52:46 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
You just rand FIVE IRL MILES here are FIVE FARMVILLE TOKENS and THIRTY EXPERIENCE POINTS :lulz:
Beat me to it.
Or how about:
You weren't sick yesterday, we show you as being at Lake Patagonia. My, my, aren't you a naughty boy? A naught, unemployed, unemployable boy.
:lulz:
To further the "IRL stuff for E-stuff"
That really means that really fit people will sell their accounts to fat people for real money so the neckbeards can get their epic doombringers and maxed out stables without having to leave the basement.
:lulz:
Do people really do that shit with WoW? I mean, I know people are stupid, but that reads like an Onion article.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 05:00:48 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:58:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 04:52:46 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
You just rand FIVE IRL MILES here are FIVE FARMVILLE TOKENS and THIRTY EXPERIENCE POINTS :lulz:
Beat me to it.
Or how about:
You weren't sick yesterday, we show you as being at Lake Patagonia. My, my, aren't you a naughty boy? A naught, unemployed, unemployable boy.
:lulz:
To further the "IRL stuff for E-stuff"
That really means that really fit people will sell their accounts to fat people for real money so the neckbeards can get their epic doombringers and maxed out stables without having to leave the basement.
:lulz:
Do people really do that shit with WoW? I mean, I know people are stupid, but that reads like an Onion article.
Yes they do. :lulz:
And then they get hacked by the person who sold the account, powerleveled it or sold them gold. Hacked to sell off everything for more gold to sell to people in WoW. :lulz:
I don't want to believe, but when I was playing I ran into too many players at max level who couldn't play the game, but yet had high high high end gear.
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 05:02:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 05:00:48 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:58:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 04:52:46 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
You just rand FIVE IRL MILES here are FIVE FARMVILLE TOKENS and THIRTY EXPERIENCE POINTS :lulz:
Beat me to it.
Or how about:
You weren't sick yesterday, we show you as being at Lake Patagonia. My, my, aren't you a naughty boy? A naught, unemployed, unemployable boy.
:lulz:
To further the "IRL stuff for E-stuff"
That really means that really fit people will sell their accounts to fat people for real money so the neckbeards can get their epic doombringers and maxed out stables without having to leave the basement.
:lulz:
Do people really do that shit with WoW? I mean, I know people are stupid, but that reads like an Onion article.
Yes they do. :lulz:
And then they get hacked by the person who sold the account, powerleveled it or sold them gold. Hacked to sell off everything for more gold to sell to people in WoW. :lulz:
:bob: APPROVED!
I actually was reading this thread all like, man this sounds kinda cool.
Just watched the video.
Creepy as fuck. Donotwant.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 05:03:42 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 05:02:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 05:00:48 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:58:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 04:52:46 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 21, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
Quote from: Idem on June 21, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
That's amazing. I saw a TED talk where a guy talked about this exact kind of thing being widespread in the future. Except, essentially, he was embracing the change and talking about a way in which it could achieve "good things" if handled properly (for instance, promoting exercise by giving points whenever someone runs for so-and-so length of time).
You just rand FIVE IRL MILES here are FIVE FARMVILLE TOKENS and THIRTY EXPERIENCE POINTS :lulz:
Beat me to it.
Or how about:
You weren't sick yesterday, we show you as being at Lake Patagonia. My, my, aren't you a naughty boy? A naught, unemployed, unemployable boy.
:lulz:
To further the "IRL stuff for E-stuff"
That really means that really fit people will sell their accounts to fat people for real money so the neckbeards can get their epic doombringers and maxed out stables without having to leave the basement.
:lulz:
Do people really do that shit with WoW? I mean, I know people are stupid, but that reads like an Onion article.
Yes they do. :lulz:
And then they get hacked by the person who sold the account, powerleveled it or sold them gold. Hacked to sell off everything for more gold to sell to people in WoW. :lulz:
:bob: APPROVED!
On top of that, WoW players don't own anything in game. They just purchased the 'rights' to use the software and servers. All those shiny pixels are belong to Blizzard.:lulz:
As I understand it, you can make a good living in South Korea and China goldmining and leveling up characters for rich (by which I mean more money than sense, not the classic description) Western neckbeards.
I'll watch the video in a bit, as parts of this sound suspiciously like a pair of novels I read, a while back.
I never finished it but Doctrow's 'For the Win' revolved around this.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on June 21, 2011, 08:41:03 AM
I never finished it but Doctrow's 'For the Win' revolved around this.
I was thinking more of Daniel Suarez's
Daemon and
Freedom. Which were actually fairly righteous. In fact, I should have included them in the sci-fi book discussion thread we had a while back, although they're set more or less in the present day, with more or less current technology.