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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Kai on September 13, 2013, 03:28:47 AM

Title: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Kai on September 13, 2013, 03:28:47 AM
So, I was looking at the videos for Abandoned Japan (I gave you a playlist before, but /this/ is the channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/AbandonedJapan), and I found a tumbler linked (http://abandonedjapan.tumblr.com/).

One of the photoseries was of this abandoned Buddhist temple for missing children. Parents would bring a doll for the priest to bless and keep, and so many of the dolls have names on them.

http://abandonedjapan.tumblr.com/search/doll+house


ETA: Should clarify, that tumblr is /not/ connected to those youtube accounts. It's a completely different person, which I just realized.



Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 03:34:50 AM
Wow. That is some scary shit.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 03:35:49 AM
OH MY GOD I WANT MY INTERNET BACK SO BAD!!!  :horrormirth:

I'm leaving this window open until it's working again. Thanks Kai!
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 03:36:55 AM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/627c7041deff1cac30cd1b5ea7040f8b/tumblr_mjhx502feb1rp2wkro1_1280.jpg)

Can you see that, Nigel?
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 06:44:41 AM
I can't see anything. :( Hopefully my internets will be back tomorrow. I think it's really REALLY weird that I can read PD but almost nothing else will load for me. Facebook loads sometimes, but sans pictures.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 06:45:00 AM
OH MY GOD NOW I SEE IT HOLY SHIT!!!
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 07:18:59 AM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 06:45:00 AM
OH MY GOD NOW I SEE IT HOLY SHIT!!!

Yeah. Way whack-noddle.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 07:26:34 AM
This is amazing!
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 07:30:30 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9xe1od05U1rp2wkro1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 07:34:25 AM
ACK!
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 07:41:17 AM
I kinda wanna go there and fix this place and clean the dolls up. It's sad to think all these all represent dead kids. Their parents brought these dolls here and each one was blessed . . . and now they're just scary jim-jam generators pretty much lost and forgotten.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
I love these... so lovely. We have lots of abandoned rural places in the US as well, because of the same exodus of people from rural to urban areas, but we seem far more keen on bulldozing everything as soon as possible.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 13, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: Pixie on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.

I kind of alternated between that and an irrational "It's not something to do with Fukushima, is it? Let me check again."

It did weird things to my head. I like that.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Kai on September 13, 2013, 05:19:00 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
I love these... so lovely. We have lots of abandoned rural places in the US as well, because of the same exodus of people from rural to urban areas, but we seem far more keen on bulldozing everything as soon as possible.

Yeah, one of the major reasons these abandoned places stick around is that they're A) way up in the mountains or B) far away from cities. As the Japanese birth rate declines there will be more and more places like this, where people move away and the elderly die, and then whole villages will be empty, forgotten, the fodder for future archaeologists.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
Quote from: stelz on September 13, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: Pixie on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.

I kind of alternated between that and an irrational "It's not something to do with Fukushima, is it? Let me check again."

It did weird things to my head. I like that.

There are a shit ton of abandoned towns in the Fukushima region, many of which are approved for return but because everyone was evacuated there's basically no living infrastructure in place (stores, etc) so nobody wants to move back.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2WFK1#a=1
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Kai on September 13, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2WFK1#a=1

Wow.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 13, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
Surreal.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2WFK1#a=1

Wow.

So desolate and so haunting and sad and strikingly beautiful.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Kai on September 13, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2WFK1#a=1

Wow.

So desolate and so haunting and sad and strikingly beautiful.

We point to Macchu Picchu and say "That's a cultural landmark, a world heritage site, a piece of history.

How is /this/ any different? Because it's recent? Because the materials are dirt common?

This is getting me thinking about why is there this human obsession with age and association of age with aesthetics.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Pixie on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.

The creepy part, for me, is that it was all abandoned. Why didn't someone take the dolls with them to a new temple or something? The fact that they did this in the first place for dead kids and their families is very sad and touching. But the blessed dolls were abandoned and now they're just litter. I think it's the loss of meaning that weirds me out.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 11:57:59 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2WFK1#a=1

Wow.

So desolate and so haunting and sad and strikingly beautiful.

We point to Macchu Picchu and say "That's a cultural landmark, a world heritage site, a piece of history.

How is /this/ any different? Because it's recent? Because the materials are dirt common?

This is getting me thinking about why is there this human obsession with age and association of age with aesthetics.

I actually feel the same way about the abandoned cities in Peru. In fact, the main thing that I love about modern ruins is the immediate sense of connection with the inhabitants. With ancient ruins, I have to work harder to find the sense of connection, because the signs of their day-to-day lives are mostly eradicated by time.

I used to get very sad when they bulldozed (as opposed to salvage) modern abandoned buildings, because they are history. When they imploded the cooling towers at Trojan, there went a piece of history. I am less attached to those things now because I realize that, as with antiquities, their passage is part of the passage of time.

Sometimes in my yard of my 104-year-old house, I think about the women who gardened here before me.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 13, 2013, 11:58:51 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Pixie on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.

The creepy part, for me, is that it was all abandoned. Why didn't someone take the dolls with them to a new temple or something? The fact that they did this in the first place for dead kids and their families is very sad and touching. But the blessed dolls were abandoned and now they're just litter. I think it's the loss of meaning that weirds me out.

Probably the keeper of the temple passed. Or, there was never a keeper, and the community that kept it alive passed or moved away.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Kai on September 14, 2013, 12:20:53 AM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 11:58:51 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Pixie on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.

The creepy part, for me, is that it was all abandoned. Why didn't someone take the dolls with them to a new temple or something? The fact that they did this in the first place for dead kids and their families is very sad and touching. But the blessed dolls were abandoned and now they're just litter. I think it's the loss of meaning that weirds me out.

Probably the keeper of the temple passed. Or, there was never a keeper, and the community that kept it alive passed or moved away.

From the Abandoned Japan Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9dkRNJFQhc An abandoned shrine in the mountains. It's obvious people still tried to get there, because they left offerings, but the bridge was out, and the shrine building was in bad shape. It served a village nearby but that is slowly becoming empty as the elderly people there die or move. So it's much the same: it served a community, and the community is almost gone.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Kai on September 14, 2013, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 11:57:59 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2WFK1#a=1

Wow.

So desolate and so haunting and sad and strikingly beautiful.

We point to Macchu Picchu and say "That's a cultural landmark, a world heritage site, a piece of history.

How is /this/ any different? Because it's recent? Because the materials are dirt common?

This is getting me thinking about why is there this human obsession with age and association of age with aesthetics.

I actually feel the same way about the abandoned cities in Peru. In fact, the main thing that I love about modern ruins is the immediate sense of connection with the inhabitants. With ancient ruins, I have to work harder to find the sense of connection, because the signs of their day-to-day lives are mostly eradicated by time.

I used to get very sad when they bulldozed (as opposed to salvage) modern abandoned buildings, because they are history. When they imploded the cooling towers at Trojan, there went a piece of history. I am less attached to those things now because I realize that, as with antiquities, their passage is part of the passage of time.

Sometimes in my yard of my 104-year-old house, I think about the women who gardened here before me.

I guess when the ruins become old enough, it's the blend of natural and artificial that makes the landscape interesting, rather than the direct connection to the people.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 14, 2013, 01:02:46 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 14, 2013, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 11:57:59 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 13, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: What The Fox Say on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2WFK1#a=1

Wow.

So desolate and so haunting and sad and strikingly beautiful.

We point to Macchu Picchu and say "That's a cultural landmark, a world heritage site, a piece of history.

How is /this/ any different? Because it's recent? Because the materials are dirt common?

This is getting me thinking about why is there this human obsession with age and association of age with aesthetics.

I actually feel the same way about the abandoned cities in Peru. In fact, the main thing that I love about modern ruins is the immediate sense of connection with the inhabitants. With ancient ruins, I have to work harder to find the sense of connection, because the signs of their day-to-day lives are mostly eradicated by time.

I used to get very sad when they bulldozed (as opposed to salvage) modern abandoned buildings, because they are history. When they imploded the cooling towers at Trojan, there went a piece of history. I am less attached to those things now because I realize that, as with antiquities, their passage is part of the passage of time.

Sometimes in my yard of my 104-year-old house, I think about the women who gardened here before me.

I guess when the ruins become old enough, it's the blend of natural and artificial that makes the landscape interesting, rather than the direct connection to the people.

For me, the biggest part is trying to connect to the people.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 14, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Pixie on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.

The creepy part, for me, is that it was all abandoned. Why didn't someone take the dolls with them to a new temple or something? The fact that they did this in the first place for dead kids and their families is very sad and touching. But the blessed dolls were abandoned and now they're just litter. I think it's the loss of meaning that weirds me out.

Strangely, this seems fitting to me. I can't put my finger on it, but I don't think it's lost any meaning. If anything, I think it's gained meaning as a result of the abandonment and disorder.
Title: Re: ATTN Nigel: Creepy temple with dolls everywhere.
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 14, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
Quote from: Twigel on September 14, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on September 13, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Pixie on September 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM
I actually don't find this creepy. there's a hell of a lot of pathos and sadness, but it's touching, rather than scary.

The creepy part, for me, is that it was all abandoned. Why didn't someone take the dolls with them to a new temple or something? The fact that they did this in the first place for dead kids and their families is very sad and touching. But the blessed dolls were abandoned and now they're just litter. I think it's the loss of meaning that weirds me out.

Strangely, this seems fitting to me. I can't put my finger on it, but I don't think it's lost any meaning. If anything, I think it's gained meaning as a result of the abandonment and disorder.

Hmm. I can see that point of view.