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#16
Something that im starting doing:
Lots of people I know want to read lots of books, but simply dont have the time.
Go through books and write down important (what you personally thinks important, or what you think the recipient might take as important) sections from books and give them a condensed version in notes, diary form etc, a quick and general overview.
If theres sections that are big like a chapter, make references and notes to whole pages to be read and if they want to read it, write/print it and give it to them.
#19
GASM Command / Re: Recruiting the unrecruited
January 12, 2008, 03:38:46 PM
I havnt read the whole thread yet, so if I just recycle whats been said then  :|

I think you can make alot of impact on people if your like a walking enigma. If you look and act like a normal person, but actually have a whole waredrobe of unmentionable vices/ideas/funny humour people seem, from my experience to have alot more willingness to join in because, well, they dont feel like they have to join a certain scene by looking/acting a certain way. I have so many what might be called secrets that I dont reveal to some, but to others I will happily reveal others.

A few years ago I use to dress well emo, before that well goth, before that total wigga hip hoper, before that a total geek loser (and other styles inbetween shifts). Now that I just dont really bother to make an effect to look like im signaling im different to everyone or that I belong to a particular scene, I can get people to, for example, sit with me and listen to a whole myriad of musical genres and get them interested and they dont seem to feel tense or nervous like im recruiting them to a scene. I thinks its important to show them they can still expose themselves to alot of information (music in this case), and not become products of it by looking or acting certain ways.

If I meet someone new I will normally go pineal (but not constantly all day to them so they get annoyed) too get the laughs going and loosen them up. I dont act like a mastermind (I dont think so anyway) but will attempt to answer, even if only briefly, difficult issues (such as philosophy) as well to show that I  do have a working brain and im not a total idiot. If I show them that im very willing to literally ATTEMPT anything knowledge, humour, actions etc it has had great effects in getting others to join in because I can act as the initiator - alot of the time it seems thats all people need, a cue to talk or act about what they havnt previously had the chance to, but have always desired even if in a small way. I think thats important to show people thats its ok to attempt to try there luck at intelligence, humour, etc and its ok to be wrong and not to fear that.

I like exposing people to stuff outside of there reality tunnels for the fun of it. And alot of the time it ends up fun, or ends up in deep discussions.
#20
Literate Chaotic / Re: word disassocation
January 11, 2008, 08:56:13 AM
ambiguity
#21
Literate Chaotic / Re: word disassocation
January 10, 2008, 02:28:10 PM
Battery
#22
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on January 09, 2008, 03:30:07 PM

              Arrrr, don't be mistaken
              tha map for tha territory ARRRRR
                                                     /


Thats so beautiful im considering getting it as a tattoe. All over my body in a lattice.
#23
The 3 most influential books too me so far are something like (no order):

Peter J Carroll - PsyberMagick: Advanced ideas in chaos magick.
I love this book because its like a 'timebinding' book (korzybski term  :)) that contains a plethora of information about a wide range of subjects in so little pages.

Roger Penrose - Shadows of the mind
To tell the truth I havnt actually read ALL this book. But im going to re-read it again very soon. I originally started it about a year ago and gave up because I just lost where I was in his arguments and reasoning.
Im sick of alot of popular books on Science since they all seem to same the same thing, follow the given dogma and stop at important details "...theres not enough room in this book to elaborate without getting into technical details". I like the Penrose books because I dont know technical Math and Physics but he doesnt hold back and goes into all the details regardless and I normally find myself following along well. Plus he goes into lots of alternatives, fallacies, paradoxes etc

John Gribbin - Stardust
Just wow. The recyling of planets, stars and people and the roles all the chemical constituents play. How the elements were made inside stars and came to make us etc.

Iv had a bunch of fiction books influence me as well. Mostly sci-fi like Baxter, McAuley, Haldeman, Clarke, K Dick...plus a book I just finished by Greg Bear "Blood Music". At the moment Im working through the "Future Classics" and each one iv read has been fucking unreal.
#24
Or Kill Me / Re: Predictably we move on...
December 25, 2007, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: LHX on December 17, 2007, 07:06:12 PM
if you feel you need to make changes in your life - you are probably right

I vote for making that shorter and putting it in the meme thread.
#25
Quote from: LMNO on December 19, 2007, 08:18:46 PM
The fact that Suu is 25 fills me with AGE.
#26
You dont HAVE to do magick to change. Not everything will need a resolution through 'magick'. But it seems a CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) technique for if you want extreme changes. Or just for fun. But then again even a small change called be called magick since small changes will eventually build up.
CBT (or Magick) seems pointless in some sense, because by the time you want to do it, you have to already be in a position to want it. Suffering from depression gets harder to cure as the person slowly falls into it more, precisely because they cant be bothered to get out of it. So paradoxically the person who needs Magick (CBT), never actually 'gets' it or uses it.

Cracking apart the previous map to paint outside the edges in childish crayola pastel, only to laugh in dazzlement at how badly you really did paint outside the last picture or map.
#27
Or Kill Me / Re: untitled late at night
December 15, 2007, 10:41:43 PM
Voice to own ears chosisme.
#28
Or Kill Me / Re: 12 steps
December 10, 2007, 02:48:13 PM
And for the drunk alcoholic suicidal poet, pratice at least 3 times a day.
#29
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Conventional Thought
December 10, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Cainotophobia. Ok, maybe not that extreme, but to a degree I see it as a common dis-ease among people, even alot of very intelligent people.
#30
Or Kill Me / Re: I hate each and every one of you
December 06, 2007, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: Khara on December 06, 2007, 07:33:34 PM

Before coming here and reading through the 'Or Kill Me' (well a lot of it) I really thought I knew what I was talking about.  I think that is why I don't say a whole hell of a lot, because I now know just how ignorant I am.  So this above really hit me hard!

I'm learning, which is a huge step from where I was a couple of years ago, just grazing....

Im with you on that one. Iv posted many times and realised that.

Im glad all you polymath fuckers regulary hurt my feelings of intelligence, its makes me realise I have more to aim for than I thought previously. That makes me happy and sad at the same time.
I was starting to feel comfortable with my level of insights into alot of areas, thanks for ruining it for me. Really, I mean it. Shamefully alot of people may not appreciate having there faith shaken, but im glad it happens again and again for me.
I dont aim to stop any time soon and simply declare that im 'Enlightened'.