Hey,
So it's been almost a year since the EB&G debacle and I've been
somewhat surprised to find the resentment I felt, melt away. That has
been replaced by the realization that someone stuck out their
figurative leg, I saw it - then eagerly tripped myself up over it.
I ignored the advice I was given, and I fucked up.
Going back to the Original Snub - it is an intrinsically Discordian
behaviour to illuminate ones conceits and fancies by orchestrating
them into Chaos. If you can't laugh when the joke is played on
you, then the joke is still on you. If you don't choose to throw
out the bitter tea, then you're stuck drinking it. Recognising all
this, I could no longer hold onto my cherished resentment.
Having a cause, a forum, a vision to protect - it blinded me,
it flattered me, it seduced me. Then it stole my
wallet and left me tied to the bed. It exposed me, and I was
found wanting. Now replace "it" with "I". I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
but I do know that I failed utterly and made countless stupid mistakes
and errors of judgement. Shamefully, it's taken this long to accept
responsibility for what happened.
I still consider myself a Discordian. But I miss reading and
discussing Discordian ideas and bullshit. And PD remains the best
place for that.
I'd like to come back.
I don't know how that would be possible.
I pissed off and alienated everyone I considered a friend. I tested
patience past its limit. I declared futile war on PD knowing that I
had no allies. And while the fight was a lot of cathartic fun, in
truth I held neither the charisma nor skill to achieve anything else
other than waste everyones time. Too much of it was lame-drama and
attention-seeking. For the cause! Eggs, Omelette, etc.
Ah whatever - I am sorry for my part in the whole affair - and at
least I'd like to ask for the forgiveness of the community. I miss
you guys. I have no interest in settling scores, dredging up old
fights nor starting new ones. When I wasn't feuding, I think most of
my contributions to PD were generally positive - I'd like to get back
to that if possible.
Acknowledging that I have no right to ask any favours from you - I
would deeply appreciate it if you could post my apology to Apple Talk,
regardless of the decision. While I understand that PD is not an
e-democracy, and the decision rests with the admin team - if the
community is vehemently opposed to the idea then there's probably not
much point considering it.
Thanks,
CU
While I am by nature a gentle and forgiving person, I really don't need to have my NUMBER ONE FAN anywhere near me, ever again.
If outvoted, I will live with the decision, but I really have to say that I'm opposed to ANOTHER round of Roger Is Evil And I Will Save You All.
Thanks for posting that. That seemed well thought out and sincere.
While I have no official say in the matter I would still like to take the time to say that CU can FUCK RIGHT OFF FOREVER. In my mind he is only a marker for the glory that is Utopian Discordianism, a heavy breathing warning to wayward discordians. And a complete asshole.
ETA: I am very familiar with this sort of person. I detest them. They push and they push and they push too fucking hard and then try say "OH HEY MY BAD I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN." and then months later they pick right back up.
Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 08:38:32 PM
Thanks for posting that. That seemed well thought out and sincere.
While I have no official say in the matter I would still like to take the time to say that CU can FUCK RIGHT OFF FOREVER. In my mind he is only a marker for the glory that is Utopian Discordianism, a heavy breathing warning to wayward discordians. And a complete asshole.
ETA: I am very familiar with this sort of person. I detest them. They push and they push and they push too fucking hard and then try say "OH HEY MY BAD I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN." and then months later they pick right back up.
Last time around, it was more like 5 minutes.
I am willing to forgive Fictionpuss and give him another chance. Fictionpuss in many ways reminds me of Daruko, and while I was adamantly opposed to his initial return, it did eventually work out OK.
That said, if does go on a crazy bender again, my vote is to chuck him out the airlock. If you want a cathartic rush, better to get it from the people we troll, whom are almost entirely more deserving of it than we are
(yes, I basically want to see Moonkitten trolling again).
"I won't hit ya no more, sweetie! I wouldn't have at all, but you made me."
Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2012, 08:44:22 PM
I am willing to forgive Fictionpuss and give him another chance. Fictionpuss in many ways reminds me of Daruko, and while I was adamantly opposed to his initial return, it did eventually work out OK.
That said, if does go on a crazy bender again, my vote is to chuck him out the airlock. If you want a cathartic rush, better to get it from the people we troll, whom are almost entirely more deserving of it than we are
(yes, I basically want to see Moonkitten trolling again).
Like I said, I'll abide by the majority decision, etc, etc.
But I won't be really happy if he does come back. There's a certain level of crazy that I don't need right now, and having him trying to "deal with Roger's evil" is far, far beyond that level.
First sign of that kind of thing, airlock time as far as I'm concerned.
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Hey,
So it's been almost a year since the EB&G debacle and I've been
somewhat surprised to find the resentment I felt, melt away. That has
been replaced by the realization that someone stuck out their
figurative leg, I saw it - then eagerly tripped myself up over it.
I ignored the advice I was given, and I fucked up.
Shit, I can see it coming already.
The first paragraph of the apology, read between the lines is:
"Roger set me up, and I fell for it."
:lulz:
++Thanks for posting that. That seemed well thought out and sincere. ++
Other than that, I don't care much.
Other than to suggest ridiculous "secret society style" initiation-mission, if he does come back it's gonna take more than words (+1 to Rog and Cain's Airlock discussion).
Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
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Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
Yeah that caught my eye too.
So that's one admin for, one against. ECH and 000 might take a while.
I'm only going to vote if it tips the scales either way. I'm not going to go out on a limb for him after I wasted a day of work when he diverted the boards url. But I don't especially hold any malice against him beyond that.
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I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
Yeah that caught my eye too.
So that's one admin for, one against. ECH and 000 might take a while.
I'm only going to vote if it tips the scales either way. I'm not going to go out on a limb for him after I wasted a day of work when he diverted the boards url. But I don't especially hold any malice against him beyond that.
Yeah, well, I spent the better part of a year with that fucko obsessing about me, and I'd really rather not experience that again. Especially the last 60 days or so of the fucking insanity.
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Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
Yeah that caught my eye too.
So that's one admin for, one against. ECH and 000 might take a while.
I'm only going to vote if it tips the scales either way. I'm not going to go out on a limb for him after I wasted a day of work when he diverted the boards url. But I don't especially hold any malice against him beyond that.
Yeah, well, I spent the better part of a year with that fucko obsessing about me, and I'd really rather not experience that again. Especially the last 60 days or so of the fucking insanity.
Yeah, well thats the thing, first sign of that and he can be ejected from the forum again.
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Quote from: Faust on April 20, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
I don't know how I could
have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G,
Yeah that caught my eye too.
So that's one admin for, one against. ECH and 000 might take a while.
I'm only going to vote if it tips the scales either way. I'm not going to go out on a limb for him after I wasted a day of work when he diverted the boards url. But I don't especially hold any malice against him beyond that.
Yeah, well, I spent the better part of a year with that fucko obsessing about me, and I'd really rather not experience that again. Especially the last 60 days or so of the fucking insanity.
Yeah, well thats the thing, first sign of that and he can be ejected from the forum again.
And we all know it is.
But we have to stick our dick back in the grinder to be sure.
I think that, if he's allowed back, telling him that he's going to get the boot as soon as he starts acting crazy might act as a deterrent, if he really misses PD that much.
That said, I don't think it'd be worth it to let him back in.
What Roger and Alty said, like 1000x.
And you can SEE the passive-aggressive bullshit in his "apology", as was already pointed out.
Even if he behaves himself (which he won't), what is he going to post? "YUOR KIDZ & DRUGZ"? Freeky's right.
The only POSSIBLE benefit to letting him back is that it might be fun to smack him around, and it's JUST. NOT. WORTH. IT.
The shithouse rat hijacked a whole BOARD, FFS.
QuoteThe shithouse rat hijacked a whole BOARD, FFS.
This.
On the other hand, PD is pretty dead right now.
An epic battle might be just the thing to get the juices flowing again.
And his "apology" is a sermon on WUT IT MEANS TO BE A RILLY REAL DISCORDIAN.
I threw up in my mouth a little.
Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
On the other hand, PD is pretty dead right now.
An epic battle might be just the thing to get the juices flowing again.
That's a point, I suppose.
Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
On the other hand, PD is pretty dead right now.
An epic battle might be just the thing to get the juices flowing again.
Cain: Always game. Kind of like the Sun Tzu of the internet. :lulz:
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Not to mention that, from reading it again, I don't really get the feeling he considers what he did to be batshit insane, just poor decisions on his part for "not taking advice."
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Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on April 20, 2012, 09:44:10 PM
Not to mention that, from reading it again, I don't really get the feeling he doesn't consider what he did to be batshit insane, just poor decisions on his part for "not taking advice."
I get the sense that he
does appreciate how whack-a-doo his behavior was.
Quote from: Net on April 20, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
That's possible and, if true, great.
Quote from: Net on April 20, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
Still doesn't count if his shrink had him do it.
Well I dunno about that. That kind of thing takes steps, sometimes slow.
But the act of apologizing is different than waiting for its acceptance.
I dont see the board being that dead anymore. Maybe its just my perspective but it feels like theres been an uptick in activity.
Quote from: Net on April 20, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
It wasn't an apology.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 10:27:43 PM
Quote from: Net on April 20, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
It wasn't an apology.
True.
More like a thin faux-apologetic veneer on Skeletor shaking his fist and saying "I'LL GET YOU, HE-MAN!" :lulz:
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 20, 2012, 10:23:27 PM
I dont see the board being that dead anymore. Maybe its just my perspective but it feels like theres been an uptick in activity.
It's been pretty active this past week. Active and AWESOME.
In terms of CU coming back, here is the way I feel about it; CU has demonstrated himself to be a crazy person. In a dangerous way. No one with a lick of sense takes back crazy-dangerous. You may wish them well, hope they get better and get on with their lives and have a great time, but you don't take them BACK. That's just simple self preservation.
Daruko was annoying, but a completely different kind of annoying. And just annoying; not dangerous. And, he made a sincere apology, and reformed his ways.
That apology up there doesn't look any more sincere than something Wyldkat would say. It's backhanded and passive-aggressive. My crazy-people spidey senses are tingling like a motherfucker.
If you do decide to let him back on just for the drama factor, that's up to you. But holy shit I do NOT trust him one little bit.
The fact that he hijacked the grille for the purpose of making a point that he didnt make and couldnt have anyway because of his tactics is pretty hard to get past. It seemed like he was working towards some sort of mental breakdown anyway but that was a bit extreme even under those circumstances.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 20, 2012, 11:20:27 PM
The fact that he hijacked the grille for the purpose of making a point that he didnt make and couldnt have anyway because of his tactics is pretty hard to get past.
Also the thing he was trying to alert everyone to never happened. Ever.
Also the fact that WTF DO WE WANT A CREEPYASS STALKER FOR ANYWAY?
Yep. He made this big deal about his youtube clip which didnt really show anything to support what he was saying and then got mad at me for pointing out that we couldnt read what he was showing us because he was scrolling to fast for anything.
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Quote from: Net on April 20, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
It wasn't an apology.
Why not?
Admittedly, I didn't follow the CU ordeal and am relying on my impression of him before he was banned.
Quote from: Net on April 21, 2012, 02:27:52 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 10:27:43 PM
Quote from: Net on April 20, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
It wasn't an apology.
Why not?
Admittedly, I didn't follow the CU ordeal and am relying on my impression of him before he was banned.
Because the whole thing was couched in terms of "Other people tripped me up and threatened me, but I apologize for reacting badly."
When actually it went more like "I WANT MY NEW BOARD TO BE A UTOPIA AND THAT MEANS I HAVE TO BE A FASCIST AND ELIMINATE ALL DISSENTERS"
followed by epic butthurt, de-modding etc. when people didn't toe the line.
So, from someone who was there, that up above doesn't look much like an apology. It looks like passive-aggressive backhanded blaming of other bad people who lured and prodded him into handling the situation badly. He's not taking responsibility for creating the conflict and the bad blood in the first place by being over-controlling.
I have the facts and I'm voting NO.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 10:27:43 PM
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Quote from: Alty on April 20, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
It's hard to take an apology that includes a reference to the original snub seriously. SRSLY.
I'm sure he meant it, just like he meant everything else he's said and done.
After thinking about it, there's just something wrong with CU. He needs serious help, pehaps even medication of some kind, a doctor might know of these things. Go find a doctor, CU.
Cain makes a good point...
Perhaps the apology is evidence of such serious help.
It wasn't an apology.
Why not?
Admittedly, I didn't follow the CU ordeal and am relying on my impression of him before he was banned.
Because the whole thing was couched in terms of "Other people tripped me up and threatened me, but I apologize for reacting badly."
When actually it went more like "I WANT MY NEW BOARD TO BE A UTOPIA AND THAT MEANS I HAVE TO BE A FASCIST AND ELIMINATE ALL DISSENTERS"
followed by epic butthurt, de-modding etc. when people didn't toe the line.
So, from someone who was there, that up above doesn't look much like an apology. It looks like passive-aggressive backhanded blaming of other bad people who lured and prodded him into handling the situation badly. He's not taking responsibility for creating the conflict and the bad blood in the first place by being over-controlling.
THIS.
Even if he's getting psyche help, meds, etc. (which I doubt) he's obviously not ready to come back and INTERACT WITH THE SAME PEOPLE HE HAD THE WEIRD OBSESSIONS, VENDETTAS AND DELUSIONS ABOUT JUST LAST YEAR.
Even if he DID take responsibility for all batshit stunts he pulled last year. Which he didn't.
Admiral Ackbar says it's a trap.
I'm pretty sure he THINKS he's five kinds of humble, sincere, and AwakenedTM to his follies . . . but nah, he ain't. All it will take is one person saying one thing at the right time and his panties will be in such a wad he'll think they're a buttplug.
Speaking as an observer who wasn't impressed with the last round of martyr-with-an-ego-seeks-radioactive-razored-windmills. Although, if it's just for LULZ . . . well, if you TELL him that, I'm sure he'll deliver.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 20, 2012, 10:23:27 PM
I dont see the board being that dead anymore. Maybe its just my perspective but it feels like theres been an uptick in activity.
Yeah I started posting again ;-)
Anyway, on-topic. My initial thought was a loud and clear HELL NO, pretty much for the exact reasons Dok stated:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2012, 08:36:50 PMWhile I am by nature a gentle and forgiving person, I really don't need to have my NUMBER ONE FAN anywhere near me, ever again.
If outvoted, I will live with the decision, but I really have to say that I'm opposed to ANOTHER round of Roger Is Evil And I Will Save You All.
Long ago, I used to have a rule about letting someone fuck up twelve times before writing them off completely. I dunno how I ever thought that was a good idea, I suppose it must have been nice when you exactly know what to expect 3/4th of the time :lol:
There's an important omission in his "apology", let me fix:
Quote from: FPI tested patience past its limit repeatedly
Cause that's an important part IMO. Also:
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 20, 2012, 11:20:27 PMThe fact that he hijacked the grille for the purpose of making a point that he didnt make and couldnt have anyway because of his tactics is pretty hard to get past. It seemed like he was working towards some sort of mental breakdown anyway but that was a bit extreme even under those circumstances.
You know, the thing about that, the time of the part of the story you describe he already
had one or two completely paranoid mental breakdowns over matters unrelated to EB&G. IMO just shows it's quite likely to happen again.
Then I read Faust and Cain's arguments. Especially the Moonkitten argument is fairly compelling. Also, in some sense, the idea that even if he blows up again, it might be fun to watch.
However since FP has had some
special attention for Dok (as they always do), and Dok's been pretty clear about not needing such bullshit again, pretty much clearly tips the scale to NO WAY for me.
If there wasn't the very real possibility that he'd just end up going after Dok again at some point, sooner or later, most probably he would, if that wasn't so,
then I would be perfectly fine with "let's try forgiveness and if he blows up again it might be fun to watch".
Oh and also re-reading the OP, I put "apology" in quotes. There's way too much "look at what you MADE me do!!", which he probably worded like that because he really tried to be sincere, which just goes to show that he
sincerely believes it was not just his own crazy-ass faults, but also that of some mysterious entity sticking out its figurative leg, and other environmental factors. It looks like he's trying to say "and those factors were also in me" but he can't (yet?) straight-out say "I fucked up. I'm the Cosmic Schmuck" without having to qualify it with all that external bullshit reasoning.
So I don't believe he's changed, much. And if Dok says he doesn't want to have to deal with the possibility of said crazy shit getting up all in his hair, that weighs heavier than letting him back in and watching the fireworks as he inevitably will 'splode again.
Well that settles that then. I was only going to vote in the event of a tie because I'm not really pushed either way.
He stays banned.
Yeah. I'm not too fussed by this outcome, either. I felt there was an alternate argument to be made, but I have to agree, it was not a strong one.
It seems like an awkwardly written and overly wordy apology but sincere. The first part does look like he's trying to worm out of it however the second part suggests he's starting to own his mistakes.
I realize my opinion on this means pretty much nothing since I'm not one of the people he's apologizing to and I don't have a full catalog of his fuckups, but I do remember him being an okay dude before losing his shit.
The people he needed to convince were those of you he more or less directly freaked out on, I get that. I trust you all have very good reasons for rejecting his attempt to rejoin the community. I'm still not interested in the particulars as it sounds like it would be a long, unfunny rehash of something I already have a rough understanding of.
That's time better spent on things like re-reading this Goatse article (http://gawker.com/5899787/finding-goatse-the-mystery-man-behind-the-most-disturbing-internet-meme-in-history) Anna Mae posted a while ago.
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On the one hand, Fictionpuss is a high-functioning aspie, or close to in terms of his ability to successfully navigate the social realm. And therefore this may be a genuine apology he flunked on, precisely because he is not good at this kind of thing.
On the other hand, if he is going to return for another round of what has preceded, then he would word an apology, probably this bad, because he is not very good at social interaction. The importance of the act lies in his state of mind when he wrote it, which we can only infer from his earlier actions.
Even if he is genuine, there is the argument that his poor sociability and obsessive nature could derail his attempts, regardless of his intent, and put us back to square one.
Forget CU, bring back Lamanite. He made me laugh.
"The BIP just called me a Nigger, bring me some roadkill soup."
Whaaa...? :horrormirth:
(And I can't take credit for finding the Goatse bio, that was somebody else. Google is being shit and not loading ATM, so can't find who.)
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 21, 2012, 06:17:28 PM
Whaaa...? :horrormirth:
(And I can't take credit for finding the Goatse bio, that was somebody else. Google is being shit and not loading ATM, so can't find who.)
Lamanite was notorious for two things.
1) Having a hissy-fit because the Latin form of Black Iron Prison was featured on a seal or something on the BIP. One of those words, of course, being "niger".
2) The other was some weird philosophy involving how people get the food they eat and an idea that you should essentially just wait for your food to wander up on to your stoop, whereupon you kill it, clean it, and cook it yourself.
He was a bit kooky, to say the least.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on April 21, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 21, 2012, 06:17:28 PM
Whaaa...? :horrormirth:
(And I can't take credit for finding the Goatse bio, that was somebody else. Google is being shit and not loading ATM, so can't find who.)
Lamanite was notorious for two things.
1) Having a hissy-fit because the Latin form of Black Iron Prison was featured on a seal or something on the BIP. One of those words, of course, being "niger".
2) The other was some weird philosophy involving how people get the food they eat and an idea that you should essentially just wait for your food to wander up on to your stoop, whereupon you kill it, clean it, and cook it yourself.
He was a bit kooky, to say the least.
What the hell did he eat? Junebugs and feral cats? :lol:
Taboo Soup: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,12841.0.html
Call Me Nigger to My Face: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,13141.0.html
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on April 21, 2012, 06:34:18 PM
Taboo Soup: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,12841.0.html
Call Me Nigger to My Face: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,13141.0.html
Oh holy fuck.
:piss:
Quote from: Cain on April 21, 2012, 04:33:16 PMOn the one hand, Fictionpuss is a high-functioning aspie, or close to in terms of his ability to successfully navigate the social realm. And therefore this may be a genuine apology he flunked on, precisely because he is not good at this kind of thing.
On the other hand, if he is going to return for another round of what has preceded, then he would word an apology, probably this bad, because he is not very good at social interaction. The importance of the act lies in his state of mind when he wrote it, which we can only infer from his earlier actions.
Even if he is genuine, there is the argument that his poor sociability and obsessive nature could derail his attempts, regardless of his intent, and put us back to square one.
Exactly. I actually do believe there's a good chance he's genuine. The alternative is that this is the first step in some sort of convoluted scheme to get revenge and Show Us All. I think that's a bit more unlikely. But even if this is a sincere apology, the best he could muster anyway, even if he's coming at this with the best intentions, the "apology" itself shows that inside him, not very much has changed and I'm fairly sure this would go bad sooner or later (possibly later, but still). The reason for me believing that is that it has happened at least twice before.
Quote from: Net on April 21, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
It seems like an awkwardly written and overly wordy apology but sincere. The first part does look like he's trying to worm out of it however the second part suggests he's starting to own his mistakes.
If you take it literally/logically/rationally, just the words as a predicate, then yes, it's a genuine apology. But the way he awkwardly jumps around it, instead of just saying it straight out as it is, even though it's logically the same thing (referring specifically to "Now replace 'it' with 'I'", among other things), basically points out to me that he may
know rationally that he was wrong, he doesn't
feel it, or
own it, you know? He's still wary of looking the issue straight in the eye and acknowledging the brunt truth, which is that he fucked up, and that because of this fucking up, even the things he thought were reasonable actions in the circumstances, are still basically his fault because he fucked up (referring to the "I don't know how I could have successfully dealt with the threats I perceived to EB&G" bit--because those "threats" wouldn't have been there in the first place were it not for taking an irresponsible stance as the admin there).
QuoteI realize my opinion on this means pretty much nothing since I'm not one of the people he's apologizing to and I don't have a full catalog of his fuckups, but I do remember him being an okay dude before losing his shit.
Yes, I remember the same things. He most certainly had some long stretches of being a very okay dude. And we probably would see those stretches for some time if we'd take him back in. But just judging from that apology, I'm sure at some point shit will hit the fan again, which might even be funny, but with very high probability Roger will take the brunt of that craziness, and he said he doesn't want that. And if it ends up being someone else, they wouldn't want that either.
QuoteThe people he needed to convince were those of you he more or less directly freaked out on, I get that. I trust you all have very good reasons for rejecting his attempt to rejoin the community. I'm still not interested in the particulars as it sounds like it would be a long, unfunny rehash of something I already have a rough understanding of.
Personally I think, if he tries again, in a year or a half or so, I'm going to give it yet another careful consideration. But this "apology" just reeks too much of a probable repeat of the same dramas.
QuoteThat's time better spent on things like re-reading this Goatse article (http://gawker.com/5899787/finding-goatse-the-mystery-man-behind-the-most-disturbing-internet-meme-in-history) Anna Mae posted a while ago.
Good read. Thanks. There was a better article I once found, but this one had other things I didn't know yet.
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 21, 2012, 10:21:09 PM
I actually do believe there's a good chance he's genuine. The alternative is that this is the first step in some sort of convoluted scheme to get revenge and Show Us All. I think that's a bit more unlikely.
Given his track record, why do you think that?
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 22, 2012, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 21, 2012, 10:21:09 PM
I actually do believe there's a good chance he's genuine. The alternative is that this is the first step in some sort of convoluted scheme to get revenge and Show Us All. I think that's a bit more unlikely.
Given his track record, why do you think that?
As I recall (which may be imperfect, I admit), CU was pretty normal until having break downs was normal for him. I remember Dok actually saying to everyone else to lay off because of his mental problems. He seemed like a cool dude before that. And the after that seemed pretty quick to me. His multiple breakdowns, IIRC were in a short period of time.
That said, I might be willing to entertain the idea (if I had a vote in this) of him rejoining. Provided that he made a proper apology. I was mulling over my opinion on it, but had uneasiness about it (also evidenced by my reluctance to bring him on board for Playground TSC). Maybe he will be ok in time but everyone's assessments of his apology located the vague apprehension I had about it. Something didn't seem to quite be there.
I hope that CU gets ok. I don't think he's quite there yet.
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 22, 2012, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 21, 2012, 10:21:09 PM
I actually do believe there's a good chance he's genuine. The alternative is that this is the first step in some sort of convoluted scheme to get revenge and Show Us All. I think that's a bit more unlikely.
Given his track record, why do you think that?
Basically what Twid said, he only seems to lash out all crazy like that when he's having some sort of breakdown. I don't think that letter was written in such a state of mind. Doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to have him back though.
Just to say, I'm with Trip in terms of sincerity. But CU did leave it to the Admins so meh.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 05:59:56 AM
Just to say, I'm with Trip in terms of sincerity. But CU did leave it to the Admins so meh.
I do think he wants to rejoin PD without drama. I'm just not convinced he's able to yet. I mean, yeah, it was a year ago, but he did hijack EBG for a really crazy reason. And it was a really crazy method. Even if I considered Dok a mortal enemy, I wouldn't have listened to him. It was just nuts. And anyone in their right mind would have known that was a bit too far. He crossed a line and initially got very frustrated with the fact that no one wanted to listen to a crazy dude with a vendetta, and then resigned himself to not being taken seriously. And I'm not exactly sure why we would take him seriously now (rhetorical). I mean, if you frame it in the terms of a relationship, crazy dude takes over your life for a day or two, smacks you around, and then a year later goes, "Sorry baby, I didn't mean to. I won't do it again. Can I eat you out?" Um. No. And if your friend were the female in question, you'd go, "Um. No. That doesn't make up for it. Don't respond to the call."
I was absent for all this drama and I've only skimmed parts of this thread. However, from what I did read, all I want to do is chant:
AIR LOCK! AIR LOCK! AIR LOCK! AIR LOCK!
I have no vested interest in this issue. It's just that 'air lock' is a catchy phrase.
(Sorry, I realize this isn't helping)
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 22, 2012, 07:27:33 AM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 05:59:56 AM
Just to say, I'm with Trip in terms of sincerity. But CU did leave it to the Admins so meh.
I do think he wants to rejoin PD without drama. I'm just not convinced he's able to yet. I mean, yeah, it was a year ago, but he did hijack EBG for a really crazy reason. And it was a really crazy method. Even if I considered Dok a mortal enemy, I wouldn't have listened to him. It was just nuts. And anyone in their right mind would have known that was a bit too far. He crossed a line and initially got very frustrated with the fact that no one wanted to listen to a crazy dude with a vendetta, and then resigned himself to not being taken seriously. And I'm not exactly sure why we would take him seriously now (rhetorical). I mean, if you frame it in the terms of a relationship, crazy dude takes over your life for a day or two, smacks you around, and then a year later goes, "Sorry baby, I didn't mean to. I won't do it again. Can I eat you out?" Um. No. And if your friend were the female in question, you'd go, "Um. No. That doesn't make up for it. Don't respond to the call."
Twid has the correct motorcycle.
In fact, even though people still tend to be more protective of women (not being anti-feminist here, the fact is that we tend to have less muscle mass and upper-body strength, on the average) you could REVERSE the sexes and say that PD is the guy and CU is the psycho bitch who slashed his tires, piled his clothes on the porch and made a bonfire, ripped her shirt and said he tried to "rape" her, texts all the time and leaves creepy notes under his windshield wipers and STILL arrive at the same conclusion.
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 22, 2012, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 22, 2012, 07:27:33 AM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 22, 2012, 05:59:56 AM
Just to say, I'm with Trip in terms of sincerity. But CU did leave it to the Admins so meh.
I do think he wants to rejoin PD without drama. I'm just not convinced he's able to yet. I mean, yeah, it was a year ago, but he did hijack EBG for a really crazy reason. And it was a really crazy method. Even if I considered Dok a mortal enemy, I wouldn't have listened to him. It was just nuts. And anyone in their right mind would have known that was a bit too far. He crossed a line and initially got very frustrated with the fact that no one wanted to listen to a crazy dude with a vendetta, and then resigned himself to not being taken seriously. And I'm not exactly sure why we would take him seriously now (rhetorical). I mean, if you frame it in the terms of a relationship, crazy dude takes over your life for a day or two, smacks you around, and then a year later goes, "Sorry baby, I didn't mean to. I won't do it again. Can I eat you out?" Um. No. And if your friend were the female in question, you'd go, "Um. No. That doesn't make up for it. Don't respond to the call."
Twid has the correct motorcycle.
In fact, even though people still tend to be more protective of women (not being anti-feminist here, the fact is that we tend to have less muscle mass and upper-body strength, on the average) you could REVERSE the sexes and say that PD is the guy and CU is the psycho bitch who slashed his tires, piled his clothes on the porch and made a bonfire, ripped her shirt and said he tried to "rape" her, texts all the time and leaves creepy notes under his windshield wipers and STILL arrive at the same conclusion.
That's probably even more accurate, actually.
Disagree. This is the internet, not a trusted relationship.
I don't really become involved in people's inter-personal drama on that level here and I do realize that it takes a lot to get banned from here (personal threats, abuse of privileges, etc) and I don't generally feel righteous about...well I don't feel righteous about anything. It's not my shit getting fucked with so I don't judge. However, he was a pretty cool guy on here at one time as I remember and I think his contributions and "atta boys" should outweigh his "oh shits."
Everyone fucks up. Everyone has their weaknesses and everyone needs some time to pull their head out of their asshole. Power-mongering turned out to be his. I am of the firm belief that we should be willing and at the ready with a bottle of lube, a shit-eating grin and a shoe begging to fill the new hole. None of us should be so jaded or full of ourselves that we're not willing to accept an apology. Beat the crap out of him and then buy him a pint.
But it's up yo y'all. That's just my tuppence.
well if you put it that way ...
but right now anyone could convince me of anything remotely reasonable sounding.
I don't care if he comes back or not. I really don't think it's a big deal either way. I mean, this place does seem to crave the drama cycles at times, maybe having him back would be a good thing.
Quote from: navkat on April 25, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
Disagree. This is the internet, not a trusted relationship.
I don't really become involved in people's inter-personal drama on that level here and I do realize that it takes a lot to get banned from here (personal threats, abuse of privileges, etc) and I don't generally feel righteous about...well I don't feel righteous about anything. It's not my shit getting fucked with so I don't judge. However, he was a pretty cool guy on here at one time as I remember and I think his contributions and "atta boys" should outweigh his "oh shits."
Everyone fucks up. Everyone has their weaknesses and everyone needs some time to pull their head out of their asshole. Power-mongering turned out to be his. I am of the firm belief that we should be willing and at the ready with a bottle of lube, a shit-eating grin and a shoe begging to fill the new hole. None of us should be so jaded or full of ourselves that we're not willing to accept an apology. Beat the crap out of him and then buy him a pint.
But it's up yo y'all. That's just my tuppence.
I would agree with you if it weren't for the fixation on and stalking/harassment of a specific member here. That member has expressed discomfort with him coming back for that reason, and as many of us have stated, that is a dealbreaker.
There's a big difference between sticking your head up your ass and creating drama and going Bayshit crazy and stalking someone. Nav, just because you don't think it is a big deal doesn't mean that nobody else does.
Or, what Nigel said.
Also, "this is the Internet" doesn't come close to describing a forum on which people have collaborated for years, communicated daily, formed close friendships, spent time together in person, and in some cases even live together.
Once again, what Nigel said.
We should send him on some epic quest through the wilds of the Internet, and pending the outcomes of said quest, we could potentially welcome him back to the fold.
Embed with some other internet society for, say, a year, become one with the culture, try to sneak in some Discordia, and note the results.
In fact, CU, if you are reading this, you should go do that anyway.
Quote from: Reverend What's-His-Name? on April 25, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
We should send him on some epic quest through the wilds of the Internet, and pending the outcomes of said quest, we could potentially welcome him back to the fold.
Embed with some other internet society for, say, a year, become one with the culture, try to sneak in some Discordia, and note the results.
In fact, CU, if you are reading this, you should go do that anyway go fuck yourself.
Also, what Nigel said. On all counts.
Shit on me once, shame on you, Shit on me twice, shame on me.
If it's ok to have CU come back and go all obsessive stalker on Dok, it's only fair to let everybody else's "fan club president" back in.
Well, I remember that incident pretty clearly, Nav, and I gotta say it wasn't "just the Internet". I received a few PMs at the beginning of CU's craziness and I wasn't really okay with some of the content of them.
However, I already personally forgave CU, and in a position as a regular member, I wouldn't mind him, but hey it seems, like the consensus from the people who have the say is "no", and I have no real reason to try to convince them otherwise.
Uhm.
Primary abuse victim said no.
Discussion over.
Not to mention it has been decided by the people who decide these things.
So...yeeeeaaaaah. How 'bout them unicorns?
(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/Altyvision/987ae35b.jpg)
Quote from: Alty on April 25, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Not to mention it has been decided by the people who decide these things.
So...yeeeeaaaaah. How 'bout them unicorns?
(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/Altyvision/987ae35b.jpg)
Cows are better. They have twice as many horns and it's culturally acceptable to eat them.
Quote from: :regret: on April 25, 2012, 10:20:22 PM
Uhm.
Primary abuse victim said no.
Discussion over.
well if you put it
that way ...
Quote from: Alty on April 25, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Not to mention it has been decided by the people who decide these things.
So...yeeeeaaaaah. How 'bout them unicorns?
(http://i.imgur.com/Y9t7p.jpg)
:lulz:
Quote from: Triple Zero on April 25, 2012, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 25, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Not to mention it has been decided by the people who decide these things.
So...yeeeeaaaaah. How 'bout them unicorns?
(http://i.imgur.com/Y9t7p.jpg)
:lulz:
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: navkat on April 25, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
Disagree. This is the internet, not a trusted relationship.
I don't really become involved in people's inter-personal drama on that level here and I do realize that it takes a lot to get banned from here (personal threats, abuse of privileges, etc) and I don't generally feel righteous about...well I don't feel righteous about anything. It's not my shit getting fucked with so I don't judge. However, he was a pretty cool guy on here at one time as I remember and I think his contributions and "atta boys" should outweigh his "oh shits."
Everyone fucks up. Everyone has their weaknesses and everyone needs some time to pull their head out of their asshole. Power-mongering turned out to be his. I am of the firm belief that we should be willing and at the ready with a bottle of lube, a shit-eating grin and a shoe begging to fill the new hole. None of us should be so jaded or full of ourselves that we're not willing to accept an apology. Beat the crap out of him and then buy him a pint.
But it's up yo y'all. That's just my tuppence.
That wasn't an apology.
Quote from: Alty on April 25, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Not to mention it has been decided by the people who decide these things.
So...yeeeeaaaaah. How 'bout them unicorns?
(http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/Altyvision/987ae35b.jpg)
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!
Oh wow. I only just peeked in this thread now since my reply. I hadn't been back until now because I just didn't feel like looking again.
I chatted a bit via PM with someone from here. I don't even understand what this thread is doing here if the situation was that bad. Isn't this like letting him post by proxy? One last hurrah to get some real estate on Apple Talk? Why are we even discussing this? It should be a non-issue. Sike-a-like-o bans are permanent, right?
Quote from: navkat on April 27, 2012, 12:15:33 PM
Isn't this like letting him post by proxy? One last hurrah to get some real estate on Apple Talk?
Meh, darkuro had like 30 of those one last hurra by proxy threads. I posed it here because it was in my inbox and I didn't feel like responding to it.
QuoteMeh, darkuro had like 30 of those one last hurra by proxy threads
On any given week. At the very least.
I'm kinda hoping Daruko destroys PD in 2012, though. It would be oddly fitting. DARUKOPOCALYPSE NOW: THE MAYANS SAW IT COMING.
Quote from: Cain on April 27, 2012, 05:30:35 PM
QuoteMeh, darkuro had like 30 of those one last hurra by proxy threads
On any given week. At the very least.
I'm kinda hoping Daruko destroys PD in 2012, though. It would be oddly fitting. DARUKOPOCALYPSE NOW: THE MAYANS SAW IT COMING.
After all the who ha to get unbanned he only posts once every so often.
Which is, oddly, too bad. What posts he has made since being un-banned are mostly intelligent and thoughtful.
Even before he got banned here, he was always capable of making intelligent and good posts. However, the lack of drama + enduring good quality since his return does make his lack of greater presence more of a shame, I agree.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on April 28, 2012, 05:29:33 PM
Which is, oddly, too bad. What posts he has made since being un-banned are mostly intelligent and thoughtful.
He's one of the rare few who actually stopped digging in and screeching, and grew as a human being.
Though I may have often been wrong, my heart was always sincere. So I could not sincerely accept that 100% of the mistakes made were my own or that 100% of the claims made about me were 100% true. If that is a fair benchmark for an apology, then I regret to say that I cannot pass that test even today with any sincerity. This made for a stilted and awkward apology, with ill-considered attempts at humour, but I meant it sincerely.
So yes - while all this mattered deeply to me four years ago back when I thought I still had a chance to keep control of the forum I had invested a significant amount of time and emotional energy developing - I subsequently moved on to other things and got over it. I'm not looking to start old fights.
But I've been told that my continued presence here depends upon my actions, so I'm testing the waters with this thread - if the intensity of the feelings evident from before are still present, then I won't waste any more of your time since my presence could only cause disruption.
Either way, thanks for all the good times.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can say:
(http://i.imgur.com/Y9t7p.jpg)
Also, I want to thank you for your contribution to Discordjia as a whole. Where would we be without Utopian Discordianism?
Finally, I assume you are the same exact person you were until you show something that indicates otherwise.
RWHN leaves, and C.U. returns... THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!
Um. Hi.
I'm all for second chances, but what's going to be different this time around?
Quote from: Captain Utopia on April 04, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
Though I may have often been wrong, my heart was always sincere. So I could not sincerely accept that 100% of the mistakes made were my own or that 100% of the claims made about me were 100% true. If that is a fair benchmark for an apology, then I regret to say that I cannot pass that test even today with any sincerity.
Then fuck off.
Lol, I have no ill will left towards you CU, but you are to me the archetypal PD poster for the 'apologise, flip out at Roger, apologise' cycle and a comic character.
Personally, I would like to experiment with you changing your avatar to something not so easily associated with your previous screeching, if you choose to stay.
Meh, no real opinion.
IS A TRUE BELIEVER IN (E) DEMOCRACY
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3757643476/94f6a999b07f4cc385648e8f730f8c6b.jpeg)
IS ALSO A CONTROL FREAK
Further to my post, that cycle is only comic while it's sport and not tedium for Roger.
I can't imagine how your stay might ever be comfortable, expect to be misinterpreted and misrepresented at our early convenience, and totally scorned if you try to save us from PD villains.
(http://i.imgur.com/JMqVqat.jpg)
Yeah actually after going back and reading my earlier responses to the thread to jog my memory, I do have an opinion, and it's
(http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/nope.jpg)
Quote from: Captain Utopia on April 04, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
Though I may have often been wrong, my heart was always sincere. So I could not sincerely accept that 100% of the mistakes made were my own or that 100% of the claims made about me were 100% true. If that is a fair benchmark for an apology, then I regret to say that I cannot pass that test even today with any sincerity. This made for a stilted and awkward apology, with ill-considered attempts at humour, but I meant it sincerely.
So yes - while all this mattered deeply to me four years ago back when I thought I still had a chance to keep control of the forum I had invested a significant amount of time and emotional energy developing - I subsequently moved on to other things and got over it. I'm not looking to start old fights.
But I've been told that my continued presence here depends upon my actions, so I'm testing the waters with this thread - if the intensity of the feelings evident from before are still present, then I won't waste any more of your time since my presence could only cause disruption.
Either way, thanks for all the good times.
What in the FUCK is this guy doing here?
:lulz:
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
A single tear rolls down my cheek.
I was wondering who unbolted the doggy door.
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2014, 01:03:37 AM
Meh, no real opinion.
I've got one. This bastard's been fixated on me for years. It's like having a tick up my ass.
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on April 05, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
Thanks.
Also, Nigel: It doesn't take a lot of reminding. :lulz:
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on April 05, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
He was part of the blanket unbanning from several months ago.
What he said was a little dishonest. He emailed me to ask me why he had been unbanned and if he could start posting again. I said he hadn't been unbanned deliberately, but give it a shot and chances are he would be immediately banned again.
Quote from: Faust on April 05, 2014, 07:24:00 AM
What he said was a little dishonest.
I am shocked. SHOCKED, I SAY! :lulz:
Yeah in effect he was told to give it a shot if he wanted and the market would decide.
Good try though.
Quote from: Faust on April 05, 2014, 07:24:00 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on April 05, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
He was part of the blanket unbanning from several months ago.
What he said was a little dishonest. He emailed me to ask me why he had been unbanned and if he could start posting again. I said he hadn't been unbanned deliberately, but give it a shot and chances are he would be immediately banned again.
In what way dishonest? His brief post totally fits the facts as you state them here.
MMIX
Confused
Nothing new there then
Quote from: MMIX on April 05, 2014, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 05, 2014, 07:24:00 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on April 05, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
He was part of the blanket unbanning from several months ago.
What he said was a little dishonest. He emailed me to ask me why he had been unbanned and if he could start posting again. I said he hadn't been unbanned deliberately, but give it a shot and chances are he would be immediately banned again.
In what way dishonest? His brief post totally fits the facts as you state them here.
MMIX
Confused
Nothing new there then
"But I've been told that my continued presence here depends upon my actions" makes it sound like he was unbanned and invited back.
Hrm, you're right, not dishonest. Instead: Unclear.
The only unequivocal fact is that somehow he was unbanned, and that you told him he hadn't been unbanned deliberately, but give [posting] a shot and chances are he would be immediately banned again . . . aaaand life goes on. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me Faust, much appreciated
We're glad your concerns have been allayed. :lulz:
And yeah, I forgot about the blanket unbanning. Given that, I'm surprised we haven't had more blasts from the past stick their heads in to say hi.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 05, 2014, 07:22:34 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on April 05, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
Thanks.
Also, Nigel: It doesn't take a lot of reminding. :lulz:
My memory is shot, it took reading back to even remember the EG&G debacle ever happened at all. :lol:
I barely remember a fucking thing about CU's apeshittery, but I do remember that it got a little too personal and basically everyone who's opinion I give a shit about has said "Fuck that guy." Also, his "I'm back" pseudo-apology sucked ass.
</bandwagon>
I totally forgot about this asshole. I'll be glad to forget about him again.
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2014, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 05, 2014, 07:22:34 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on April 05, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
Thanks.
Also, Nigel: It doesn't take a lot of reminding. :lulz:
My memory is shot, it took reading back to even remember the EG&G debacle ever happened at all. :lol:
Yeah, looking through the peanut gallery, there are some people I have no memory of.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 06, 2014, 03:03:54 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 05, 2014, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 05, 2014, 07:22:34 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on April 05, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
Yeah, fuck that shit. I don't know how he got unbanned but he is so the fuck not welcome here. I re-banned him, and have the willpower to keep doing so for far longer than whoever actually wants him here has to keep unbanning him.
Oh, what's that you say? NOBODY actually wants him here? Good.
Thanks.
Also, Nigel: It doesn't take a lot of reminding. :lulz:
My memory is shot, it took reading back to even remember the EG&G debacle ever happened at all. :lol:
Yeah, looking through the peanut gallery, there are some people I have no memory of.
Weird, isn't it?
Quote from: Regret on April 05, 2014, 08:15:53 PM
I totally forgot about this asshole. I'll be glad to forget about him again.
:mittens: