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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Adios on September 08, 2010, 05:03:09 PM

Title: America™ Moves Right
Post by: Adios on September 08, 2010, 05:03:09 PM
Cenk Uygur filling in for Dylan Ratigan again this week more or less rehashed his op-ed from The Huffington Post, Who is More Conservative: Ronald Reagan or Barack Obama? As he noted in his column, Ronald Reagan:

-Gave Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants
-Negotiated with Terrorists (Traded Arms for Hostages with Iran)
-Raised Taxes
-Negotiated with the "Evil Empire" without Pre-conditions
-Made a Decision to "Cut and Run" From Lebanon After Our Troops Were Attacked

Cenk wrapped up his post this way.

    The bottom line is that, no matter what the reason, Obama seems to be in some important ways significantly to the right of Reagan on the political spectrum. If Reagan ordered the execution of US citizens abroad, he might have been impeached. If Obama tried to give undocumented immigrants blanket amnesty the way Reagan did, he might be impeached.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/cenk-political-line-has-moved-so-far-right

Has America™ really moved this far to the right?
Title: Re: America™ Moves Right
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 08, 2010, 05:05:04 PM
Yes.

Google "Overton window".
Title: Re: America™ Moves Right
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 08, 2010, 05:13:25 PM
Welcome to America!
Title: Re: America™ Moves Right
Post by: Thurnez Isa on September 08, 2010, 05:18:08 PM
Im not sure about the public. All sense is the media has.
Though for a long time it seemed that a lot of those on the supposed left didn't and don't have any balls. Politicians on the left are even worse. Here's my dramatic retelling of almost every political response from the left in the last 10 years
:argh!: :oops: :sad: :cry: :a2m: :x :emo:
Title: Re: America™ Moves Right
Post by: Adios on September 08, 2010, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 08, 2010, 05:05:04 PM
Yes.

Google "Overton window".

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Title: Re: America™ Moves Right
Post by: Phox on September 08, 2010, 11:31:01 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 08, 2010, 05:03:09 PM
Cenk Uygur filling in for Dylan Ratigan again this week more or less rehashed his op-ed from The Huffington Post, Who is More Conservative: Ronald Reagan or Barack Obama? As he noted in his column, Ronald Reagan:

-Gave Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants
-Negotiated with Terrorists (Traded Arms for Hostages with Iran)
-Raised Taxes
-Negotiated with the "Evil Empire" without Pre-conditions
-Made a Decision to "Cut and Run" From Lebanon After Our Troops Were Attacked

Cenk wrapped up his post this way.

    The bottom line is that, no matter what the reason, Obama seems to be in some important ways significantly to the right of Reagan on the political spectrum. If Reagan ordered the execution of US citizens abroad, he might have been impeached. If Obama tried to give undocumented immigrants blanket amnesty the way Reagan did, he might be impeached.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/cenk-political-line-has-moved-so-far-right

Has America™ really moved this far to the right?


I like Cenk a lot. He's a smart guy. Though decidedly liberal in his bent, he is also fair, and he is not afraid to call either side on their BS. Do any of you watch/listen to The Young Turks?

And to answer your question, most unfortunately yes. Thanks to the eight years of Bush-ocracy (an unfair term, as it was more like Cheney-ocracy, but work with what you got), Americans don't know what it's like to be on the left anymore.